CrystalMoon

I saw Tandy and Beverly, but didn't see Juliette's mom. I did see Luke and Teddy. Luke was right behind Avery and Juliette with very short hair. And Teddy was kind of in the back. I also saw Bo, Glenn, and Emily all together on the right. And that guy Maddie dated last season--can't remember his name. I really liked how Avery and Juliette were each holding one of the Cadences. Despite my poor review of most of Seasons 5 and 6, I really liked this ending. It was a good love letter to fans, imo. I really enjoyed seeing the crew and Connie Britton and Callie Kourie, and so many people up on stage.

Avery never signed with Luke, as far as I remember. He produced for Highway 65, and in Season 1 he was signed with ... someone else. I can't remember who. This was before he burned his masters. He's never been signed with anyone as a performer since, unless the guys' band had signed with Highway 65. But in any event, I just double checked the closed captioning, and Brad says, "Hey, you still with Renegade, huh? Let me know when you want to come over to Shiny..." It was "with Renegade," capitalized. Not "a renegade."

I have a question. When Avery and Alanna are singing and Brad stops by, he asks Avery when he's going to leave "Renegade" and come to his record label so he (Avery) can have a real career. Renegade?! What is that? I thought Avery and everyone were with Highway 65. Is this something from way back in Season 1? I'm very confused. BTW, I had closed captioning on, so I know he said "Renegade."

Haven't others reported that the writers found out late that the show was cancelled? But in any event, it doesn't feel like a season wrapping up either. And I wonder if Alanna was supposed to be a new character to sort of replace Juliette. I think it's obvious, to me at least, that this would've been Hayden's last season. And maybe other cast members were going to leave too. You never know, so they were bringing in more people for that reason.

I am so over this show. I am sort of hate watching it now, which is amazing because I was really enjoying parts of it before the break. Mostly I loved the guys and their storylines with the band. I even kind of like Alanna. But part of my enjoyment was that I assumed when the show came back after the break, it would wind down toward a series finale. I thought Alanna would leave the group and go wtih Brad and then her storyline would be done. Juliette would come back sooner and have the biggest storyline of the second half of this season given how Hayden is the star of the show and how little she'd been around before now. I also thought we'd be getting hints of what would happen with Scarlett and Gunnar. Even if they didn't get back together, I figured they'd at least be in scenes together. Now it feels like we're in the middle of a season, not a series, and nothing is winding down. And we're still spending more time with Alanna and Twig than the series regulars. And other than Daphne, no one seems to have any ambition about music.

27 minutes! Ha ha! Can you imagine a 27-minute break-up scene? LOL That could happen. And also, Cassie and Cole could have baby Athan again, and this time, he could grow up and be friends with Ramse and Deacon in the future because they'd be about the same age.

He wouldn't remember anything. The only ones who remember are those who were injected with splinter serum, and he never was. So I wouldn't assume he has a bad life. Without the apocolypse and death by the Tall Man, maybe he meets someone else and has a big family and is a successful mechanic. No, but they may have been engaged. I assume Cassie broke up with him as her memories of Cole emerged. And you know what else occurred to me, we were seeing everyone in different timelines in the epilogue. Cassie was in 2013, but Ramse and his son were probably in 2043 because he would've been a young boy in 2013. Same with the other post-apocolyptic future, we were seeing Jones, Deacon, etc all from 2043 or they would've been a lot younger, and obviously Hannah would've been just a bump. It kind of quashes my dream of them all getting together for a reunion.

I loved this finale. I was thinking about what I could criticize about it and I couldn't come up with anything. But a couple of people here mentioned that they wished the Cole/Cassie memories had been different, and I totally agree. In fact, I remember being annoyed about that at the time. There are a million clips they could've used, and they didn't have to all be romantic. It could be Cole and Cassie fighting together or on a mission together. Just something different. Everyone's lists of their favorite things are all great, and I'm not ready to make my own list just now. Mostly, I was so glad I wasn't spoiled or spent a lot of time trying to figure everything out. I loved all the twists. I was pretty sure Deacon would come back and the knife would be important, but I never guessed it would be a Deacon before Cole and Ramse. Never saw them bringing Ramse back. Or Max! Max! Athan was a great suprise too, and I loved that he as a primary was the one who suggested that Katarina could save Cole. It made me wonder if that might have been the plan all along and that all primaries knew he'd survive or could survive if Jones decided to save him. Somehow Jennifer knew to wait for him in the Keys. Could it be she had an inkling all along? I don't know. But I'm intrigued. The good-byes were heart-wrenching, one after another after another, and kudos to Aaron Stanford to going through each good-bye in such a compelling way. I really felt for all of them, but especially him. I was fairly sure we'd see a montage of everyone after the timeline was fixed, but I never in my wildest dreams thought Cole would live. I usually like more bittersweet endings, but I really think this happy ending was earned. James Cole gave up a good chunk of his life to save humanity, and to find out he was deamon was unfair beyond measure. So for time to decide it's okay for Cole to live, makes sense to me. He's still not part of the timeline, at least until the moment he shows up on the beach, so he didn't get everything back. But he got what he most wanted. It was a great twist and a very satisfying ending. ETA: About the red leaf at the end. To me, the ending is very clear. The red forest is gone, the timeline is restored. That close-up of the leaf just told me that, now, a red leaf is just a leaf and a sign of autumn. It not a sign that the red forest is back. Quite the opposite. It's a sign the red forest is gone.

True, but what should he do? I guess he could move into an apartment with Cadence or buy his own house, but it seems like he's just been waiting for Juliette to contact him or something. But since they've broken up and he still lives there, he has no choice but to have friends (and girl friends) come to Juliette's house. I guess I feel like she gave up all rights to call him out on anything when she abandoned them and cut off all communication. Still, I'm sure Avery wished he hadn't been caught like that!

It was old Jennifer. The lab is in 2043 right now, which old Jennifer mentioned, so it's before she died. I suppose old Jennifer remembered (?) that Cole and Cassie were about to jump to the Middle Ages and wanted to encourage them, and perhaps talk to her younger self later on when she returned.

I thought back in Season 1 that father Cole looked old enough to be adult Cole's dad, so he does look quite a bit older than Hannah, imo. However, they had a nice chemistry and I could see Hannah being attracted to him, especially as they were kind of isolated in the woods. Plus, knowing this is Cole's dad might make him more attractive to her or at least make her feel like it's her fate to become Cole's mother. Long way of saying, I noticed tha age difference but it didn't really bother me.

Yeah, good point. There was a lot going on and it seemed to be telling many stories at once. I think if I'd watched this all by itself I would've not liked it very much. But since it was the first of three, I did enjoy it. I liked it as a set-up for Episode 9, but I remember getting a little bored in the first half when the story was almost entirely about Jones, Olivia, Hannah, and Emma.

I'm frustrated that we found the medieval splinter chair/weapon and it was destroyed before it could be used. I wonder if Cole will have to travel back to the chair and sneakily use it while the Army of the 12 Monkeys takes over the church. And isn't it interesting that Cole said the only thing worse than, what was it, dying or never being born? Was to not ever existed at all. And that's what has to happen to him. That's kind of depressing. Because once he's completely erased, what then? Assuming the show does that, I'm really curious and a little bit sad to see how his absence affects everyone else. As for the big reveal about Cole's mom, I was totally fooled. In general, I like to be fooled, so I don't try to figure out twists, but I was certain Cole's mom was Emma. Then when Matthew Cole told Hannah that Emma was dead, I actually got weepy, and I stayed that way until the end. It just fit the story so perfectly. And the way all of the events at the end of the ep were revealed was, imo, really well done. It reminded me a lot of Lullaby from Season 2, which makes sense since that's where Cole and Cassie saved Hannah's life in the first place. Cole really is born of time travel. Only in fiction would this ever be possible!

I'm thinking we'll see Deacon again. He saw VII carved into his cell wall, gave Jennifer the knife, and said he'd need it again someday. They both got nosebleeds. So I'm hoping we get to see him or her carve that VII and what it all means.

Like usual, I enjoyed parts of this episode and wanted to fast forward through others. On the plus side, I like Deacon's story, and I find it interesting to learn his backstory. I like the actor playing his dad too. Besides that, I always enjoy the guys together. I hope they keep the band because I really like them and don't think they need Alanna. Also, Jessie wasn't in the ep---yay! I am really tired of her and her voice that always sounds like she's about to cry. And if I never see her son again, I will be happy. Also, Daphne's story was in the background and Maddie was generally tolerable. One of my biggest problems with Seasons 5 and 6 is that the girls get way too mcuh focus, so when they're in the background, it's a better episode. Also, Juliette is finally back, so I'm looking forward to next week, but also kind of cringing because I don't want to see her beg Avery to take her back again. Been there, done that about a zillion times. Though I do think they're end game. On the negative side, Scarlett and her save-the-vet project were featured. I honestly don't know why so much time is devoted to this storyline. She hasn't been in a scene with any of the guys in ages, and barely in scenes with Deacon or the girls. I don't understand why she's in this weird spin-off show. Another negative is all the time devoted to Alanna. Why? Why not explore Will's steroid use instead just joking about it. He almost died. Shouldn't he be in therapy or something? You know what I wonder. I wonder if the writers thought there'd be more seasons, so they added Alanna and the vet (forgot his name) and Brad with the thought that they could be part of the main cast in season 7. Obviously, Hayden wouldn't have been in another season--she's barely in this one. Does anyone know when they found out the show was cancelled? Was it too late to change these storylines?