GH History Lessons: Because History is Always Repeating Itself

[SlovakPrincess]

On 4/11/2022 at 5:14 PM, IDFfm0870 said:

According to the episode recap of that episode that you can find in the link below, My guess is they had probably used flashbacks of both Finola and Tristan, as this was his last episode back in 1992. I think the recapper would have mentioned it here if Finola had returned.

https://www.angelfire.com/tv/curlyqgrl/gh/eps/gheps1992.htm#2/19, 2/20, 2/21, 2/24, 2/25, 2/25

Yeah they used flashbacks in the episode where everyone attended the Robert/Anna memorial service.  They would’ve had to credit FH for that episode, I imagine, since they used her original scenes.

[Francie]

On 4/9/2022 at 11:12 PM, jsbt said:

Question for the Anna fans among us: Some Wiki stuff online lists Finola as coming back for one day - 2/25/1992 - after Monty recast the part for Anna's last month and cut her loose at the end of '91. Does anyone know if this is accurate? Did Finola appear once more after the brief month-long recast with Camilla More? That episode appears to be one of the few missing from the period on YT.

Feb. 25, 1992 was Tristan Rogers' last air date. Finola didn't return for that day, and there was no flashbacks of Anna. Finola was already working on Jack's Place at the time. 

Finola getting the Jack's Place offer is what caused the bad blood between Finola and Gloria Monty. Finola had long planned on leaving when her contract was up on Dec. 31, 1991. Gloria was supportive of Finola moving on, to the point where Gloria set up meetings for her with various execs. Both Finola and Gloria expected that Finola would finish out her contract and start auditioning in the 1992 pilot season.  Unfortunately, from Gloria's perspective, no good deed goes unpunished, because one of the execs Finola wanted her to start right away on Jack's Place, which was supposed to be a mid-season replacement show. Because that was an ABC show, ABC could let her out of her GH contract a few weeks early. Finola gave two weeks' notice when there was about 6 weeks left to film. Gloria was irate, and didn't let Finola finish out her two weeks. Meanwhile, I'm still bitter we didn't get Finola to play out the scene where she realizes she's been tricked and comes face to face with Faison. 

Anyway, back to the episode. There were lots of references to Anna, but no Finola, no Camila, and no flashbacks. Just two Robin/Robert flashbacks. I had totally forgotten that Gloria had rewritten history and made Holly's childhood nanny, Nanny McTavish, Faison's mother. Don't ask, it makes zero sense. You'd have to think the UK has a population of 12 to make the logic work. Nevertheless, here's the Robert/Holly/Robin/Faison portions of that episode:

 

 

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by Francie
cuz getting dates right and posting at 1 in the morning don't mix

[ouinason]

Here is my starter list of family members sharing too many love interests/hook ups.  I was going to say bed partners, but I can't remember if some of them actually slept together or not.

Nikolas Cassidine:  all three Webber sisters!  and Emily and Rebecca, twins

Lucky Spencer: Nik's brother only got to two of those three sisters.  Good for him though, cause I think Hayden might have eaten him alive.

Liz Webber:  Nik and Lucky, plus all three of Alan Quartermaine's sons!  AND Franco, who was related to the twins and also sort of Drew's brother, and definitely her own half brother's half brother.

Michael Corinthos:  all three of Silas Clay's daughters, though he did/does not know that (fully half of his love interests)

(third set of twins, I am sensing a pattern)

Sonny Corinthos:  Sam and Alexis, both his baby mamas

Morgan Corinthos: Ava and Kiki

Doctor Griffin: Ava and Kiki

Ava Jerome: Morgan and Sonny

Kiki Jerome: Morgan and Michael

Maxie Jones: Nathan and Peter

Ric Lansing: Alexis and Sam

Sam McCall:  Sonny, Ric and Dante

Courtney Mathews: AJ and Jason

Kiesha Ward: AJ and Jason

Hell MONICA QUARTERMAINE: Alan and Ned

Katherine Bell: Nikolas and Stefan

Jackie Templeton: Finn and Gregory

Harrison Chase: Willow and Nelle (twins!)

I could go on and on and on

[dubbel zout]

If that doesn't prove the case for bringing in more people unrelated to anyone in Port Charles, I don't know what does.

The show uses relatives so the writers don't have to put in the work to show us who the character is anyway, so all of those connections are pretty moot.

Just because he's becoming a little high-horse with Sonny, Dante slept with Lulu and Valerie. Not siblings, but still related.

[TeeVee329]

Adding to the list, Ned was with both Alexis and her sister Kristina.

And Helena was with both Mikkos and Victor Cassadine.

[Cheyanne11]

And Kiki was also with Dillon, who is Michael's cousin.

[Francie]

Going old school to add to your list:

Long before Dr. Monica Quartermaine was Dr. Monica Quatermaine, she was married to one Dr. Jeff Weber, but in love with his brother and her former boyfriend, Dr. Rick Webber. 

Going old school to add to your list:

Long before Dr. Monica Quartermaine was Dr. Monica Quatermaine, she was married to one Dr. Jeff Weber, but in love with his brother and her former boyfriend, Dr. Rick Webber. 

[ouinason]

Tony was with Bobby and Carly

And all of this is beside the whole "everyone is related" thing that is going on right now.  Like, we are almost at DAYS level flow charting to make sure people aren't dating their own cousins!

[Asp Burger]

If you enjoyed Patrick Fabian as Howard Hamlin on Better Call Saul, check him out as a false-lead suspect of Liz's rape from 1998. 

[Ambrosefolly]

On 5/24/2022 at 1:18 PM, ouinason said:

Tony was with Bobby and Carly

And all of this is beside the whole "everyone is related" thing that is going on right now.  Like, we are almost at DAYS level flow charting to make sure people aren't dating their own cousins!

At least when he found out, he reacted with the level of horror one should. 

[ouinason]

8 minutes ago, Ambrosefolly said:

At least when he found out, he reacted with the level of horror one should. 

This is totally true, unlike Sonny with Alexis/Sam who didn't even seem to register it.  

[WendyCR72]

11 hours ago, ouinason said:

This is totally true, unlike Sonny with Alexis/Sam who didn't even seem to register it.  

Consider, too, that Sonny's half-brother, Ric, ALSO slept with both Alexis and Sam (well, he and Alexis were married, soooo - and I loved Ric/Alexis once upon a time...), and the oogy factor ratchets up even higher.

And Jax was once married to Alexis (albeit platonic in nature, though they did share a kiss or two!) and slept with Sam, too.

In other words, typical soap. LOL!

[dubbel zout]

6 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

I loved Ric/Alexis once upon a time...

Same. Rick Hearst is so good. I miss him. He was able to leave the show without his character getting killed, which is amazing, considering how the writers take out their frustrations on the characters.

[ouinason]

I loved LirRic and Rexis.  I was pissed at the way that some things were handled for damn sure, and the return Ric had was a disaster.

[ffwbe]

12 minutes ago, ouinason said:

I loved LirRic and Rexis.  I was pissed at the way that some things were handled for damn sure, and the return Ric had was a disaster.

I hated his return too. It seemed pretty obvious that they brought him back for Liz but as soon as they had a new plan for her (first with BM’s Jason and later Franco), he was expendable. That plot with Nina and her mom was embarrassing and he never even had a send off. They just forgot he existed. 

[dubbel zout]

19 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

That plot with Nina and her mom was embarrassing

It gave us the immortal Waaaaah app, and for that alone I can't completely condemn the story. I LOVED that. Hee.

[TeeVee329]

On 5/25/2022 at 2:31 PM, Asp Burger said:

If you enjoyed Patrick Fabian as Howard Hamlin on Better Call Saul, check him out as a false-lead suspect of Liz's rape from 1998. 

My touchpoint for Patrick Fabian is playing Veronica's criminology professor during the third season of Veroncia Mars, and his character was involved with Jaime Ray Newman, a.k.a. Big Kristina from GH!

23 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Same. Rick Hearst is so good. I miss him. He was able to leave the show without his character getting killed, which is amazing, considering how the writers take out their frustrations on the characters.

By the skin of his teeth.  Wasn't Ron's original intent to make him the victim in that stupid Franco/Nina murder mystery a few years ago and he was forced to pivot to Silas?

[Melgaypet]

Patrick Fabian was also the asshole vice-principal in Joan of Arcadia (starring Amber Tamblyn) and he was a guy on 24 during the season with the weaponized virus. I always think, "hey, it's Mr. Murty!" every time I see him in something.

[Jaded]

I first remember seeing Patrick Fabian on Saved by the Bell: The College Years where he played Professor Jeremiah Lasky who Kelly had a crush on and eventually they kissed a lot. I think he ended up dumping her even after she dropped his class. I always think of him in that role when I see him pop up in stuff which he's done a lot of over the years.

[GHScorpiosRule]

This popped up and DAMN if I don’t miss Kimberly McCullough. So glad that Robin didn’t let Patrick run over her-I especially loved her “pouty mouth” line to him.

[Cheyanne11]

I don't think there's a place for Robin on GH right now, but, damn, I did love that house set.  

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I don't think there's a place for Robin on GH right now, but, damn, I did love that house set.  

Oh, I don't want her ANYWHERE NEAR this clusterfuck. Frank already did his part to try and ruin her with her acceptance of Heinrik. If she can come in for brief visits like the Nurses Ball (which I think is deaddeaddead, so I don't think we'll see her again), I will be happy. But she did say in that tweet she retweeted? That she doesn't miss acting, but so appreciates and misses her acting partners, and gave a shout out to Jason Thompson. Because those scenes were really raw and brutal. And I loved how Robin just kicked his ass out.

I remember being pissy on Robin's behalf, when 2 weeks was "long enough" for Robin to be angry, sad, and still feel like massive betrayal. And that Patrick, and others were urging her to forgive his ass already.

I loved the discussion and conversations we all had when this all played out. Good Times!

[Cheyanne11]

Quote

Reese came and went in 2005, but was around a while. She was an FBI agent who had a relationship with Sonny. (A story that already had been done once with Hannah Scott.) She initially came to town to help find Kristina, but then she started building a case against Sonny, then found herself attracted to him, etc.

Reese turned out to be Charlotte Roberts, Carly's childhood friend from Florida, whom Carly had thought dead. But now they hated each other, and they had catfights. Carly at that time was played by Jennifer Bransford.

Reese died from injuries sustained in a patented Guza sweeps event, a train crash. The actress, Kari Wuhrer, later sued ABC for wrongful termination, claiming she was let go because she was pregnant.

Bringing this over from the episode thread--I wasn't watching at this time.  Can someone give me the thumbnail of how Charlotte Roberts was alive when she was supposedly killed in a car accident when she and Carly were teenagers?  Thanks!

[WendyCR72]

8 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Reese died from injuries sustained in a patented Guza sweeps event, a train crash. The actress, Kari Wuhrer, later sued ABC for wrongful termination, claiming she was let go because she was pregnant.

What I remember most was how Reese bought feuding Carly and Alexis fans TOGETHER. It seemed like no one liked her (and KW's remarks, something about Reese being superior to Alexis or something of that nature [this was during the Reese/Ric mess that was destroying Ric/Alexis, etc.] certainly didn't help matters!).

If I recall, Kari Wuhrer used soap mag polls in court to "prove" Reese's "popularity" in court, of which - of course - voting is unlimited. (I think she lost or it was dismissed or whatever.)

But not many were sorry to see the character go. I even recall online fans glad that Emily was such a shitty doc and misdiagnosed Reese's injuries in the train wreck. LOL! I just remember, after she croaked, other characters just blithely stepping over her corpse like a speed bump. Good times!

[Asp Burger]

Hannah Scott, Angel Ellis, and Reese Marshall (three failed Sonny love interests from 1999-2005) would make a good "death is not an option." They all had some fans, but they were few and far between. I guess Reese was the least bad of them. Kari Wuhrer was no great thespian, and her "porn faces" in love scenes got a lot of mockery on boards, but she was less amateurish than Lisa Vultaggio and Angel Boris. And at least Reese had a soapy backstory. 

I did like Reese the day she beat Carly's ass, and Carly was whining for sympathy from men...and not getting it. ("Look what Reese did to me!") 

On 9/16/2022 at 12:19 PM, Cheyanne11 said:

Can someone give me the thumbnail of how Charlotte Roberts was alive when she was supposedly killed in a car accident when she and Carly were teenagers?  Thanks!

Someone may have answered this already in the episode thread, but Reese was said to have survived the car accident and required extensive facial reconstruction (similar to how they explained Billy Miller not looking like Steve Burton). Reese's mother, who never appeared until just recently, told everyone she had died in the crash, when she was just away recovering. 

Reese was in GH for some minor thing, and Monica noticed on x-rays that she had had a lot of facial surgeries. That's how they foreshadowed her identity reveal.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Asp Burger

[methodwriter85]

On 9/13/2022 at 3:07 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

Oh, I don't want her ANYWHERE NEAR this clusterfuck. Frank already did his part to try and ruin her with her acceptance of Heinrik. If she can come in for brief visits like the Nurses Ball (which I think is deaddeaddead, so I don't think we'll see her again), I will be happy. But she did say in that tweet she retweeted? That she doesn't miss acting, but so appreciates and misses her acting partners, and gave a shout out to Jason Thompson. Because those scenes were really raw and brutal. And I loved how Robin just kicked his ass out.

I remember being pissy on Robin's behalf, when 2 weeks was "long enough" for Robin to be angry, sad, and still feel like massive betrayal. And that Patrick, and others were urging her to forgive his ass already.

I loved the discussion and conversations we all had when this all played out. Good Times!

Agreed. I'm happy that Robin has her happy life with her husband and two kids and she doesn't need to be anywhere near this show except for visits to her mom. Kimberly is also happily raising her kid and directing so good for her.

[Jaded]

[jsbt]

How exactly did Carly lose the Metro Court to Nina? I didn't even know Nina had a stake. What does Carly do now if anything?

[tessaray]

50 minutes ago, jsbt said:

How exactly did Carly lose the Metro Court to Nina? I didn't even know Nina had a stake. What does Carly do now if anything?

Carly took a short term loan using the Metro Court as collateral, using the money to buy Aurora stock. Which then tanked, meaning Carly couldn't redeem her share of the hotel. Nina bought it from the bank and tried to give it to Carly. Sonny and Olivia both also offered to buy it and give it back to her. 

Carly floats around gracing Drew and Port Charles with her awesomeness. 

[slayer2]

Can someone explain the breakdown of the Cassadine lineage from Greek to Russian. It would seem Spencer has Greek on both sides since I think Mike was supposed to be Greek but how is Nikolas Greek and Russian? Is he a Greek Prince or A Russian one?

[ffwbe]

2 hours ago, slayer2 said:

Can someone explain the breakdown of the Cassadine lineage from Greek to Russian. It would seem Spencer has Greek on both sides since I think Mike was supposed to be Greek but how is Nikolas Greek and Russian? Is he a Greek Prince or A Russian one?

I’m pretty sure the 80s era Cassadines were only Greek but in the 90s they retconned that to them being Russian royalty that fled to Greece and lived there after the Russian Revolution. That might explain the obviously Greek names for the older Cassadines. Mikkos and Helena also couldn’t have children and Stavros was a younger cousin who they treated like a son, which was all changed so they do the whole eldest son of the eldest son stuff and explain Mikkos’ other never mentioned children. 

[Melgaypet]

12 hours ago, ffwbe said:

I’m pretty sure the 80s era Cassadines were only Greek but in the 90s they retconned that to them being Russian royalty that fled to Greece and lived there after the Russian Revolution.

I think so, too. Back during Stefan's trial for "killing" Katherine Bell, Nikolas briefly recounted the story (in a tone that said he'd heard it a thousand times, it was kind of funny) of Stefan's grandfather and his sister Sofia crossing the Ural Mountains in the back of a wagon during/after the Russian Revolution. The Cassadines probably already had family* in Greece. It's possible, even likely, that this grandfather married a Greek woman. I always thought Helena was originally Greek as well (and in my mind, she was born a Cassadine cousin.

*There are apparently Cassadines all over the globe. Back when Nikolas discovered he was Stefan's son (still mad they retconned that, btw), he was ranting about how he had his fortune fraudulently. I distinctly remember his line: "[The money] belongs to Alexis, and Helena, and the Baron's children in Macau, and Cousin Mikhail who took Holy Orders from..." *trails off, waving hand to indicate they are too many other relatives to mention*

[slayer2]

1 hour ago, Melgaypet said:

I think so, too. Back during Stefan's trial for "killing" Katherine Bell, Nikolas briefly recounted the story (in a tone that said he'd heard it a thousand times, it was kind of funny) of Stefan's grandfather and his sister Sofia crossing the Ural Mountains in the back of a wagon during/after the Russian Revolution. The Cassadines probably already had family* in Greece. It's possible, even likely, that this grandfather married a Greek woman. I always thought Helena was originally Greek as well (and in my mind, she was born a Cassadine cousin.

*There are apparently Cassadines all over the globe. Back when Nikolas discovered he was Stefan's son (still mad they retconned that, btw), he was ranting about how he had his fortune fraudulently. I distinctly remember his line: "[The money] belongs to Alexis, and Helena, and the Baron's children in Macau, and Cousin Mikhail who took Holy Orders from..." *trails off, waving hand to indicate they are too many other relatives to mention*

Omg its such a rich history!! Thanks for sharing that. I too, have ignored the retcon of the retcon, in my mind Stefan is Nik's father, they are both alive and that's that.

[jsbt]

The Russian branch of the Cassadines (which I believe is the original branch) has long been a fascination of mine for Reasons. There's genuinely good stories you could do there.

[methodwriter85]

On 12/5/2022 at 5:35 PM, Jaded said:

Cue to them now being unable to shell out the money for the rights to even cover songs for the Nurses Ball. When I watched the 2020 Nurses Ball with Epiphany singing Sad Muzak my heart sank because I realized we would never get to hear copyrighted music again. The Nurses  Ball was the last place we could hear actual pop songs on this show because they were all covers and it was just one week.

My favorite music scene on this show had be Gia doing her fashion photoshoot to Independent Women.

I don't think 90's GH was as good at incorporating music as One Life to Live was. Marty Saybrooke's rape scene set to "In Bloom" by Nirvana was absolutely brilliant.

Edited March 19, 2023 by methodwriter85

[Asp Burger]

Oh, the days when you could afford music montages from Madonna.

Before I expanded that to see the clip with it, I thought it was going to be Emily and Zander. They had a fantasy dance sequence to her "I Deserve It" from Music in late 2000 or early 2001.

[racked]

15 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

 

I don't think 90's GH was as good at incorporating music as One Life to Live was. Marty Saybrooke's rape scene set to "In Bloom" by Nirvana was absolutely brilliant.

I remember some boy band music popping up a bit, but one of the more memorable and poignant songs they used was Jewels “Foolish Games” when Lucky came to Liz’s house to check in on her after she was raped. She stayed in bed while he called her name from outside, and that song played. It worked so well with that sad scene. 

[methodwriter85]

4 minutes ago, racked said:

I remember some boy band music popping up a bit, but one of the more memorable and poignant songs they used was Jewels “Foolish Games” when Lucky came to Liz’s house to check in on her after she was raped. She stayed in bed while he called her name from outside, and that song played. It worked so well with that sad scene. 

The boyband stuff was on there a lot. I swear I remember "Still On Your Side" by BBMak for an Emily/Zander moment. It came out in 2000 so it would have fit the timeframe for Emily/Zander.

 

Edited March 20, 2023 by methodwriter85

[UYI]

On 9/16/2022 at 8:24 PM, WendyCR72 said:

But not many were sorry to see the character go. I even recall online fans glad that Emily was such a shitty doc and misdiagnosed Reese's injuries in the train wreck. LOL! I just remember, after she croaked, other characters just blithely stepping over her corpse like a speed bump. Good times!

I JUST watched these scenes on YouTube the other night! Emily was still a med student and make a rookie mistake so Reese fell over from internal bleeding and bit the bullet. 

[UYI]

On 3/19/2023 at 5:26 AM, methodwriter85 said:

 

My favorite music scene on this show had be Gia doing her fashion photoshoot to Independent Women.

 

It's so cute!

 

[dubbel zout]

Reese was such a terrible character, and so typical of the crap writing we got. An FBI agent sent in to take down Sonny who then falls for him? UGH. She was hardly compelling before that, and falling for him just makes her the pits.

[methodwriter85]

1 hour ago, UYI said:

It's so cute!

 

Not surprised Marissa Ramirez was able to have a successful primetime career with her show on CBS. She was great. 

[Mirabelle]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Reese was such a terrible character, and so typical of the crap writing we got. An FBI agent sent in to take down Sonny who then falls for him? UGH. She was hardly compelling before that, and falling for him just makes her the pits.

Next time the FBI sends someone to take down Sonny it needs to be man or a lesbian with a healthy relationship with their still living father. 

[ffwbe]

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Reese was such a terrible character, and so typical of the crap writing we got. An FBI agent sent in to take down Sonny who then falls for him? UGH. She was hardly compelling before that, and falling for him just makes her the pits.

Reese was the worst. I’m not shocked she only made it a year. I remember the character getting so much hate online. Fanbases who couldn’t agree on anything agree on how much they hated her. I don’t think the actress helped matters because I remember her dissing some of her female costars at an event. 

[UYI]

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Reese was such a terrible character, and so typical of the crap writing we got. An FBI agent sent in to take down Sonny who then falls for him? UGH. She was hardly compelling before that, and falling for him just makes her the pits.

And didn't Sonny have that happen to him FOUR times? Hannah Scott, Angel Ellis, Reese Marshall, and then finally Claire Walsh? That's BEYOND excessive. 

[dubbel zout]

Yes, the lady law enforcement officer falling for Sonny was a very bad story that the show repeated.

[Asp Burger]

Since then, we've been getting young guys starting out on a secret mission to take Sonny down before seeing how great he is. That was more or less Dante's story (with a paternity twist), and Dex seems headed in that direction. At least they're still brunettes!  

I don't think Angel Ellis fits the pattern of Hannah, Reese, and Claire, though. The other three were on the side of the law. Angel was a mob daughter who hated her mobster father, Joseph Sorel, because he had killed her never-seen husband. Angel never had an agenda that was against Sonny's interests. She took care of him after he was stabbed at Lily's grave, and she seemed to want a relationship with him from the minute they were in each other's orbit. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" + the fabled dimples, I guess.

It seemed as if Megan McTavish were trying to make her mark by creating a new beloved heroine, and it flopped, and she (Angel, not Megan) was in and out within about four months. The Carly/Sonny/Alexis triangle was such a hot ticket with the fan bases that a third woman vying for him was superfluous.

[jsbt]

Angel was definitely a JFP joint too. The mysterious intro and color scheme fixation (wearing all white, then red) is something I think she'd done at a prior show, and repeated once more when she botched Claudia Zacchara's introduction during the writer's strike in 2008 - Claudia was introduced as fetishizing an all-red wardrobe and heels, same as Angel did with her primary colors.

Angel was not on long but honestly it felt like two years. Boris was so bad, everything about it was so bad and off-brand for GH.

I wondered if Kari Wuhrer (Reese) got hired partly on the strength of her Spelling soap past - she had an early primetime role on 90210 - vis a vis Chuck Pratt who worked on the Spelling soaps for many years, but I'm not sure if he was out by that time. Either then or shortly after. She was supposed to be a 'get' for GH because Wuhrer had had a 'hot' career in primetime and low-rent cable series for most of the late '90s/early 2000s before slumming it on daytime, but she was never very good.

Re: music, I will never forget them playing "Frozen" when Stefan got booked for Katherine's murder (I think). ABC loved that whole Ray of Light album in that period, and used it well (I was floored when a deep cut, Madonna's "Candy Perfume Girl" played on AMC around that time or a couple years later with Erica on the job).

Edited March 21, 2023 by jsbt

[WendyCR72]

7 hours ago, jsbt said:

Re: music, I will never forget them playing "Frozen" when Stefan got booked for Katherine's murder (I think). ABC loved that whole Ray of Light album in that period, and used it well (I was floored when a deep cut, Madonna's "Candy Perfume Girl" played on AMC around that time or a couple years later with Erica on the job).

And another Madonna song was used in 2000 when Emily daydreamed of Zander, "I Deserve It".

[Asp Burger]

On 3/21/2023 at 2:17 PM, jsbt said:

I wondered if Kari Wuhrer (Reese) got hired partly on the strength of her Spelling soap past - she had an early primetime role on 90210 - vis a vis Chuck Pratt who worked on the Spelling soaps for many years, but I'm not sure if he was out by that time. Either then or shortly after. She was supposed to be a 'get' for GH because Wuhrer had had a 'hot' career in primetime and low-rent cable series for most of the late '90s/early 2000s before slumming it on daytime, but she was never very good.

Kari was also a minor Gen X sex symbol in the late '80s. She was the "Vanna White" figure on MTV's game show Remote Control and had a following among teen boys. Not that that fan base was likely to follow her to General Hospital 17 years later.