All Episodes Talk: Small World, Big Lives

[Ottis]

The most interesting conversation I have ever seen on this show was in this most recent ep between Matt and Amy at the farm, where they debated how they raised their kids. The "farm for sale" tension is *not* about the farm being for sale or how Matt or Zach handled it.

Instead, It seems to be about a long-standing issue within the family where Matt, who built the farm and house and (as far as I know) was the catalyst for their financial success (in addition to TV stardom) was also the one who constantly hounded the kids (and Amy) about taking better care of their surroundings. Any one instance was unimportant, but if Matt really felt that his children - from birth through adulthood - were entitled brats who didn't take care of the things he provided them, then the kids (and Amy) knew it even if he never said it that way. It built up a lifetime of resentment that exploded into the divorce and the issue over the farm sale. Matt even commented separately about it while making pottery, and how "the kids" broke all the coffee cups except one that his mom bought Matt when he struck out on his own.

It's a startling admission to me, as someone who has occasionally watched this show over the years. Matt seems to be the parent who provides all these fantastic settings for his children, and yet he resents the wear and tear on them that comes from having children. We all feel that to a degree, but this conversation shows it is deep within Matt and it is a battle he fights every day. And apparently constantly leaks out and, over time, has hugely impacted his family and how they view him emotionally.

[65mickey]

I  do not get that Matt resents the wear and tear on material things that comes with having and raising children. I watched that scene with Amy and felt like Matt had had it up to here with Amy butting in about the sale of the farm when she no longer has an interest in it. She is quick to tell Matt how he mishandled things but of course she was OK  selling her share to Matt to get her money. If she were so concerned about the family legacy for "the boys" she is the one who mishandled things. She should have bought Matt out and handed the property over to "the boys."  I wish that Matt had the guts to tell Amy to shut up and stay out of things that are not her business. Amy and Chris keep stiring the pot. I don't know what pleasure she gets out of this. But I think she is a nasty bitter woman. 

[Redrum]

She has an interest in it in that it is hurting her kids and tearing the kids apart.

I don't think Matt was ever willing to sell his share of the property to Amy so not sure Amy ever had the option to just buy Matt out. The endless argument between them was that neither wanted to move after all.

As for the arguing, Matt seems to give as good as he gets and does fight back. 

[1011101010001]

39 minutes ago, Redrum said:

She has an interest in it in that it is hurting her kids and tearing the kids apart.

I don't think Matt was ever willing to sell his share of the property to Amy so not sure Amy ever had the option to just buy Matt out. The endless argument between them was that neither wanted to move after all.

As for the arguing, Matt seems to give as good as he gets and does fight back. 

Would be funny if one of the kids worked with Amy to buy it from him and then sell it to her to spite him.  But she wouldn’t know what to do with the property once she had it.

[65mickey]

If Amy feels like it's hurting her kids and tearing the kids apart then she should stop stiring the pot, whispering to Tori and bring it up to Zach that  Matt was listing the farm on 5/1. It appears that  she is  doing it to keep Tori and Zack mad and upset with Matt. The best thing that Amy could do to help Zack is to stop bringing up the sale and let him and Matt work things out. That's what a supportive mother does when the child is an adult. 

[Jeanne222]

2 hours ago, Ottis said:

The most interesting conversation I have ever seen on this show was in this most recent ep between Matt and Amy at the farm, where they debated how they raised their kids. The "farm for sale" tension is *not* about the farm being for sale or how Matt or Zach handled it.

Instead, It seems to be about a long-standing issue within the family where Matt, who built the farm and house and (as far as I know) was the catalyst for their financial success (in addition to TV stardom) was also the one who constantly hounded the kids (and Amy) about taking better care of their surroundings. Any one instance was unimportant, but if Matt really felt that his children - from birth through adulthood - were entitled brats who didn't take care of the things he provided them, then the kids (and Amy) knew it even if he never said it that way. It built up a lifetime of resentment that exploded into the divorce and the issue over the farm sale. Matt even commented separately about it while making pottery, and how "the kids" broke all the coffee cups except one that his mom bought Matt when he struck out on his own.

It's a startling admission to me, as someone who has occasionally watched this show over the years. Matt seems to be the parent who provides all these fantastic settings for his children, and yet he resents the wear and tear on them that comes from having children. We all feel that to a degree, but this conversation shows it is deep within Matt and it is a battle he fights every day. And apparently constantly leaks out and, over time, has hugely impacted his family and how they view him emotionally.

Matt worked his whole life to see that his family had nice things.

I think it broke his heart to see everything broken and ruined by boys and their mother that never cared for anything.

What you saw leaking out was Matt's tears for what could have been!  😪

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5 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Matt worked his whole life to see that his family had nice things.

I think it broke his heart to see everything broken and ruined by boys and their mother that never cared for anything.

What you saw leaking out was Matt's tears for what could have been!  😪

Do dwarves have a shorter life span?  Maybe the kids just assumed they would inherit fairly young and that was one of the reasons they never applied themselves.

[b4pjoe]

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

Would be funny if one of the kids worked with Amy to buy it from him and then sell it to her to spite him.  But she wouldn’t know what to do with the property once she had it.

How would that spite him? She owned it once and he didn't force her to sell so I doubt he would care as long as he gets the money. And the half price he offered it to Zac is still more than double what he paid Amy for it. He would love that deal. LOL

[Ottis]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

If she were so concerned about the family legacy for "the boys" she is the one who mishandled things. She should have bought Matt out and handed the property over to "the boys."

Well again, I don't think this was about who did what to whom regarding the planned sale of the house. I personally believe that Matt seemed to handle his end fine (emails and all), though I don't think we know the value of what he was selling or what he wanted Zach to pay.

But none of that matters, because this was about a lifetime of nagging and resentment and comments. Mat's offer may well have been fair to most people, but Zach (and apparently the rest of the family) had reached a point where pretty much anything he did wouldn't be good enough. I wonder if they actually didn't want the house and surrounding areas, because it would make them remember their childhoods - and for them that included a lot of unpleasant memories.

20 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Matt worked his whole life to see that his family had nice things.

I think it broke his heart to see everything broken and ruined by boys and their mother that never cared for anything.

What you saw leaking out was Matt's tears for what could have been!  😪

I can't tell if that is sarcasm, but if it isn't ... as a father who often despaired at what our kids did to our house and things, I get Matt's view. I do. But I also realized they were kids. And my SO had her hands full. So as much as it pained me at times, I learned pretty quickly to let go my dream of a perfect "Todd and Margo" home once we had kids. It doesn't sound like Matt ever did.

Of course, now my problem is our kids are grown and I am enjoying the peace and lack of damage ... and my SO has her niece and nephews over and it happens all over again. Today I fight Matt's battle (in my head) pretty much 2-3 times a week. Ugh!

[Redrum]

3 hours ago, Ottis said:

It built up a lifetime of resentment that exploded into the divorce and the issue over the farm sale. Matt even commented separately about it while making pottery, and how "the kids" broke all the coffee cups except one that his mom bought Matt when he struck out on his own.

It's a startling admission to me, as someone who has occasionally watched this show over the years. Matt seems to be the parent who provides all these fantastic settings for his children, and yet he resents the wear and tear on them that comes from having children. We all feel that to a degree, but this conversation shows it is deep within Matt and it is a battle he fights every day. And apparently constantly leaks out and, over time, has hugely impacted his family and how they view him emotionally.

This. I was stunned that he was genuinely ticked off about cups from a thrift store being broken years earlier.  Likewise the public griping over the soda cans not being picked up, the broken windows when they were kids etc. A part of me is all "Matt, I wonder how you would like it if your dad got on tv and vented every petty frustration he had with you as a kid?"

Because I doubt - based on Matt's ordering his dad around etc, that Matt would meek and mild be all "yes sir, I was bad at 16 and my nose needs to be rubbed in my dog dirt for it as an adult. I sinned as a child to you and I respect that you will never forgive these things".

Yet I feel Matt would be well pleased to leave "and you're getting nothing because of the windows you broke at 16" in the will. I often think Matt could really benefit from some therapy. There's a lot of bitter, petty anger in that man. 

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57 minutes ago, b4pjoe said:

How would that spite him? She owned it once and he didn't force her to sell so I doubt he would care as long as he gets the money. And the half price he offered it to Zac is still more than double what he paid Amy for it. He would love that deal. LOL

I meant if what others have said that he didn’t want her to have it under any conditions.

[Jeanne222]

I’m kind of surprised Since Amy thought the farm the kids legacy she didn’t give her half to her children. 

Amy has more than enough money from the show and adds more every season. 

There’s a saying. “Put your money where your mouth is”!

Amy took her share and ran. She has nada to say about Matt’s farm. 

Shut up Amy!

[65mickey]

3 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

I meant if what others have said that he didn’t want her to have it under any conditions.

I don't think that was the case. As I remember and I could be wrong but after the divorce Amy stayed and stayed in the house. They owned it jointly and Matt did not live there and probably wanted some settlement because the house was being soley used by Amy. Amy could have bought the farm just like Matt did. But she didn't want to part with money. She has no one to blame but herself for the way things turn out. 

[Redrum]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

As I remember and I could be wrong but after the divorce Amy stayed and stayed in the house.

This was part of the divorce settlement, actually, that Amy could stay in the house.  In the divorce agreement, each partner owned fifty percent of the property and had to give the other the right to buy their half first. So as long as Matt was interested in buying the property from her at an amount other purchasers couldn't or wouldn't match, she had to sell to Matt first. So she couldn't for example, write a bill of sale for one dollar and sell it to Jeremy or Zach - Matt had to be offered the opportunity to buy at that price point first. She could only sell to someone else if Matt specifically said he was no longer interested in buying. Likewise Matt could't simply sell to strangers unless Amy was offered the opportunity to buy him out first.

That was why Matt was harping for years for Amy to sell to him - he basically couldn't do any of his plans until he fully owned the property, and he was restricted from selling his half out from under her. 

[watcherwoman]

On 7/22/2022 at 10:12 AM, BAForever said:

New to this show, and am going back to old episodes. What a bunch ridiculous people. Am watching S 6. Matt is mean and horrible. Amy is a slob/hoarder. The twins seem like idiots. Jacob is MIA. I like Molly so far. Suggestions for what season(s) are biggest train wrecks? Thanks!

Well, Matt eventually starts screwing the hired help (Caryn), he gets all giddy thinking he found his soul mate, while Caryn practices the "Matt, you are so interesting smart and sexy" act until he puts a ring on it.  Eventually she's going to get tired of her constant fawning of her prince.   I mean, she'll be elevated to wifey, but that leaves a space for a new understanding side piece.

Amy is busy doing a happy dance, knowing she finally got away from the narcissistic Matt.  Her kids prefer her....duh...it doesn't take much to see the real Matt and she'll probably live happily ever after with her new man, as long as she can cook and collect rocks.

The kids don't get any more interesting.  You may puke watching Jeremy and whats her face.  I can't remember his wife's name, but she seems to rule the roost.  Tori likes having kids and Zack enjoys making them.  

Honestly, other than being shorter than normal, they all seem like most boring messed up families you will see at the grocery store.  I don't know why I watched the show, so I would recommend you get out while you can and find a better way to spend your evening.

[BAForever]

2 hours ago, watcherwoman said:

Honestly, other than being shorter than normal, they all seem like most boring messed up families you will see at the grocery store.  I don't know why I watched the show, so I would recommend you get out while you can and find a better way to spend your evening.

Ha! Watcherwoman! Too late! Love seeing the hoarded house. Love watching Matt bark orders. Love Amy scurrying around her cluttered kitchen. Love watching kids with no sheets on their beds sleeping till noon. I'm hooked.

[Irate Panda]

A rundown of the show imo:

• Two LP got married because neither one of them thought they could do better than the other.
• They had 4 kids, despite probably realizing they were not a good match early on.
• They both propped up the twin dolts for different reasons. I feel like Matt was living vicariously through Jeremy and pumping him full of dumb ideas like his journey to Wharton 🙄and Amy turned Zach into half-husband bitching about Matt.  Molly seemed to succeed despite both her parents and Jacob seemed to be forgotten all together.
• Jeremy basically married a version of Matt (i.e. micromanager trying to get us all to believe Jeremy’s some sort of intellectual, who will be the best damn farmer mogul the world has ever seen)
• Zach married a version of Amy (i.e. a pushy bulldozer who still needs to tell Zach to change his socks although she obviously forgot on that last episode)
• Matt and Amy continue to be miserable until the kids are grown.  Amy coddles the twins, while Matt checks out emotionally. Amy hates Matt. Matt hates Amy.  ( I think Amy hates Matt because she believes he cheated, while Matt hates Amy because she won’t make a decision about anything, ever….well at least not without several centuries passing).   I hate them both (not really), yet like them infinitely more than both the twins.
• Amy implies Matt had an affair with Caryn, but when directly asked says she can’t say he cheated.  (My personal opinion, the marriage was long dead.  Matt had an emotional affair, Amy was surprised and angry anybody would actually want to be with Matt.)
• Amy and Matt get divorced.  Caryn is deemed by some to be a golddiger plotting to get the farm (although personally I question how much old cash Matt actually has.  I’m actually more curious as to if Caryn is still getting alimony and what her divorce payout was.  I think she likes Matt well enough, but I think if she were being influenced by anything, it was the show, more so than the actual farm.
• Chris comes into the picture after we see Amy playing The Bachelorette for several episodes. I paint Chris with a similar brush as Caryn in that I think the show and its benefits played a big part in Chris becoming MYMAN.  I actually think Chris loves Amy, but I think the show and his belief Amy would never cheat caused him to stick around long enough to figure out.
• Grandchildren are born.  King Jackson was crowned and OWNS everything: schools, doctors’ offices, Disneyland, rollercoasters, and your local Benihana, but much to the chagrin of his parents, he does not own the farm. Lilah doesn’t OWN anything, but in her defense, the poor child is is busy trying not to be sat on or driven into a tree.  
• Each of the twins attempt to buy the farm.  Apparently the twins are the only people that thought they would actually OWN the farm.  Amy is mad she didn’t get more money for the farm the boys didn’t get the farm. Matt is mad his kids are idiots and that there was a greater chance of Irate Panda purchasing the Pepperidge Farms empire than Dumb and Dumber making this plan work his kids didn’t step up and try to really learn the business.
• All pets on the show starting from Rocky through Murphy deserve better humans than all these morons.

*These musings are based on almost 0% facts and almost 100% speculation, but as a “reality” show viewer, I feel that’s totally appropriate 😂

Edited July 28, 2022 by Irate Panda

[sandals]

That was excellent!!

[65mickey]

Excellent account of the Roloff family saga. It may be based on speculation but I feel there is a whole lot of truth in what you wrote. 

[BAForever]

Thanks @Irate Panda. My interest in the show was piqued, now I'm fascinated and will continue my journey of binge watching.

[Irate Panda]

29 minutes ago, BAForever said:

Thanks @Irate Panda. My interest in the show was piqued, now I'm fascinated and will continue my journey of binge watching.

Well to be honest, I have missed seasons of the show, for reality shows it’s not particularly trashy or drama-filled comparatively speaking.  Things are drawn out for years! Most of their real dirt happens off screen I imagine but it’s good background noise and I do enjoy the pets and scenery of the farm.

[Dibs]

Late to the party, but some thoughts:

Again, what game is Chris playing here?  He was definitely NOT thrilled with the "loud" grandchildren visiting in previous seasons and often made himself scarce at such times, but now he's Mr. Rogers and Amy's house is his neighborhood?  I can't tell if he's trying to steal Jackson's affections away from Matt and the farm by expanding Henry's aquarium from a mere lamp base for the first time ever (and this is Henry V), which wouldn't be the act of the friend of Matt's he claims to be, or if his long-game is to get in good with Jackson so that when he's older, he can slyly take him on fishing trips and thus sneakily reunite him with Grandpa and Cha-Cha when Zach and Tori aren't looking.  Maybe he likes the fan mail he gets when he does the doting step-grandfather thing and requested a better edit from co-producer Amy.  Maybe he's genuinely happy to finally have a family besides Henry.

Chris remains a mystery!

It's interesting that Matt wasn't "reaping what he sowed" and Amy wasn't "the favored grandparent" until this season when the farm deal went south; again, in previous seasons, Matt was obviously the favored grandparent, along with Caryn, and Amy was a mere afterthought being treated like yesterday's dog's dinner by Zach and Tori, not worthy of their attention much less exclusive babysitting duty.

Amy, you could've bought an exercise bike for pennies on the dollar on your local Facebook Marketplace site or Craig's List.  You could probably even find one on the Freecycle page if Hillsboro has one.  You can afford a personal trainer, so I'm assuming you can afford a piece of equipment from Goodwill or Salvation Army (I see exercise bikes all the time).  Who thinks she'll ever actually return it to Matt?  Show of hands???  And he got a free chewing out as a bonus!

Also Amy, absolutely NONE of your business what your ex-husband does with HIS property; shut it.  Again because it can't be said enough: Matt paid nearly $1 million for HALF of that property based on assessments at the time, making its entire value $2 million.  Prices have since doubled and tripled.  Zach offered what Amy paid, and - from what I gathered from this conversation - Matt offered him the house/attractions/patch without the forest for that amount, which Zach, his panties in a wad because he demanded the forest, turned down.  As Matt said, he passed up a great deal by cutting off his nose to spite his face.

Personally, I thought that was the perfect ending... Matt calmly talking perfect sense, admitting to his mistakes and asking if Amy had ever admitted to hers (crickets), then Amy storming off, the little bulldozer with steam coming out of her ears, stomping off into the sunset like Godzilla, Bucolic images of the farm.

[stoppro]

Chris is no mystery he is following the TLC script,he would never do a big switch like that without approval.He is under contact! never forget.

[Jeanne222]

38 minutes ago, stoppro said:

Chris is no mystery he is following the TLC script,he would never do a big switch like that without approval.He is under contact! never forget.

Oh I so agree. Whatever they want for the TLC paycheck the six of them will do and in my humble opinion the show would be more real if it moved at it’s own pace. 

I see Jacob posts over in IG about things he does on the farm. I wonder how much $$ he has and if he’d like to buy one of those properties coming on the market!

Now that would be newsworthy!  I think he and his wife are close friends with Jeremy and Audrey .

[BAForever]

Gosh I love this sh*****. So happy am able to binge. On S 2 now, trip to Hawaii. Taking a long trip with kids is stressful but Amy and Matt are unable to share a kind word and don't get me started on what slobs they all are. The house is always cluttered. When I leave for a trip, my house is clean because who wants to deal with a mess coming home? And it cracks me up listening to Amy's voice in her TH. Her tone is kind, it's never kind in action. Two miserable people. I envy their free trips and adventures, but they are sad, sorry people.

[Dibs]

On 7/30/2022 at 7:12 PM, BAForever said:

Gosh I love this sh*****. So happy am able to binge...it cracks me up listening to Amy's voice in her TH. Her tone is kind, it's never kind in action...

I wish I could find a way to rewatch old episodes.  That would keep me happily entertained for the rest of the summer!  You're so right about Amy using her "little girl voice" in THs and voiceovers.  You can still hear it today in "Amy Roloff's Little Kitchen" when she says "oh hey hi, it's me" and asks her viewers to "suscribe."

[BAForever]

9 minutes ago, Dibs said:

I wish I could find a way to rewatch old episodes.  That would keep me happily entertained for the rest of the summer!  

Yep, on season 2, epi 21. They are still only 30 min. I know at some point the show will go to 60 min. I'm good through back to school time for sure.

[gingerella]

On 7/27/2022 at 9:06 PM, Irate Panda said:

A rundown of the show imo:

• Two LP got married because neither one of them thought they could do better than the other.
• They had 4 kids, despite probably realizing they were not a good match early on.
• They both propped up the twin dolts for different reasons. I feel like Matt was living vicariously through Jeremy and pumping him full of dumb ideas like his journey to Wharton 🙄and Amy turned Zach into half-husband bitching about Matt.  Molly seemed to succeed despite both her parents and Jacob seemed to be forgotten all together.
• Jeremy basically married a version of Matt (i.e. micromanager trying to get us all to believe Jeremy’s some sort of intellectual, who will be the best damn farmer mogul the world has ever seen)
• Zach married a version of Amy (i.e. a pushy bulldozer who still needs to tell Zach to change his socks although she obviously forgot on that last episode)
• Matt and Amy continue to be miserable until the kids are grown.  Amy coddles the twins, while Matt checks out emotionally. Amy hates Matt. Matt hates Amy.  ( I think Amy hates Matt because she believes he cheated, while Matt hates Amy because she won’t make a decision about anything, ever….well at least not without several centuries passing).   I hate them both (not really), yet like them infinitely more than both the twins.
• Amy implies Matt had an affair with Caryn, but when directly asked says she can’t say he cheated.  (My personal opinion, the marriage was long dead.  Matt had an emotional affair, Amy was surprised and angry anybody would actually want to be with Matt.)
• Amy and Matt get divorced.  Caryn is deemed by some to be a golddiger plotting to get the farm (although personally I question how much old cash Matt actually has.  I’m actually more curious as to if Caryn is still getting alimony and what her divorce payout was.  I think she likes Matt well enough, but I think if she were being influenced by anything, it was the show, more so than the actual farm.
• Chris comes into the picture after we see Amy playing The Bachelorette for several episodes. I paint Chris with a similar brush as Caryn in that I think the show and its benefits played a big part in Chris becoming MYMAN.  I actually think Chris loves Amy, but I think the show and his belief Amy would never cheat caused him to stick around long enough to figure out.
• Grandchildren are born.  King Jackson was crowned and OWNS everything: schools, doctors’ offices, Disneyland, rollercoasters, and your local Benihana, but much to the chagrin of his parents, he does not own the farm. Lilah doesn’t OWN anything, but in her defense, the poor child is is busy trying not to be sat on or driven into a tree.  
• Each of the twins attempt to buy the farm.  Apparently the twins are the only people that thought they would actually OWN the farm.  Amy is mad she didn’t get more money for the farm the boys didn’t get the farm. Matt is mad his kids are idiots and that there was a greater chance of Irate Panda purchasing the Pepperidge Farms empire than Dumb and Dumber making this plan work his kids didn’t step up and try to really learn the business.
• All pets on the show starting from Rocky through Murphy deserve better humans than all these morons.

*These musings are based on almost 0% facts and almost 100% speculation, but as a “reality” show viewer, I feel that’s totally appropriate 😂

Can I just give you a list of shows I have watched, and you can do this for every one of them? Then I can start watching less crap TV and enjoy life more. Thank you!

[Dibs]

On 8/3/2022 at 11:18 PM, gingerella said:

Can I just give you a list of shows I have watched, and you can do this for every one of them? Then I can start watching less crap TV and enjoy life more. Thank you!

But what fun would that be?  Please jog our memories as you wade through the mud and muck.  As crappy as it is, it's classy compared to today's TLC offerings...

[BAForever]

Holy Smokes. Still can't believe all the years I missed this sh******. I think binging reality shows amplifies all of the dysfunction. Let me say that Irate Panda should summarize everything. Panda's synopsis was spot on. One day I dislike Matt more, the next Amy. They are horrible at communicating, always getting a dig in. I'm on S14, Zach just proposed to the ever sparkling and vivacious Tori. Jer and Auj recently wed. Jacob and Molly are moved out. I'm back at school tomorrow, so will slow down my viewing. 

[BAForever]

Amy misprounces "frustrated", it sounds like "fustrated".  Bugs me. Plus since I'm binging it and she's married to Matt, she says it often. 

[Spazamanaz]

6 hours ago, BAForever said:

Amy misprounces "frustrated", it sounds like "fustrated".  Bugs me. Plus since I'm binging it and she's married to Matt, she says it often. 

It really bugs me too. Along with ' oh brothers'. And a lot of other words that I can't think of at the moment.  

[LilyD]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:48 PM, Dibs said:

I wish I could find a way to rewatch old episodes.  That would keep me happily entertained for the rest of the summer!  You're so right about Amy using her "little girl voice" in THs and voiceovers.  You can still hear it today in "Amy Roloff's Little Kitchen" when she says "oh hey hi, it's me" and asks her viewers to "suscribe."

Can I make a suggestion? I “rewatched” Sister Wives while doing a whole bunch of chores from labelling school stuff to folding laundry. It’s great background noise. Whenever there is something interesting, you pause what you’re doing and watch more closely. When it’s boring you just finish your stuff. Worked fine for me😉

[athousandclowns]

On 7/27/2022 at 9:06 PM, Irate Panda said:

A rundown of the show imo:

• Two LP got married because neither one of them thought they could do better than the other.
• They had 4 kids, despite probably realizing they were not a good match early on.
• They both propped up the twin dolts for different reasons. I feel like Matt was living vicariously through Jeremy and pumping him full of dumb ideas like his journey to Wharton 🙄and Amy turned Zach into half-husband bitching about Matt.  Molly seemed to succeed despite both her parents and Jacob seemed to be forgotten all together.
• Jeremy basically married a version of Matt (i.e. micromanager trying to get us all to believe Jeremy’s some sort of intellectual, who will be the best damn farmer mogul the world has ever seen)
• Zach married a version of Amy (i.e. a pushy bulldozer who still needs to tell Zach to change his socks although she obviously forgot on that last episode)
• Matt and Amy continue to be miserable until the kids are grown.  Amy coddles the twins, while Matt checks out emotionally. Amy hates Matt. Matt hates Amy.  ( I think Amy hates Matt because she believes he cheated, while Matt hates Amy because she won’t make a decision about anything, ever….well at least not without several centuries passing).   I hate them both (not really), yet like them infinitely more than both the twins.
• Amy implies Matt had an affair with Caryn, but when directly asked says she can’t say he cheated.  (My personal opinion, the marriage was long dead.  Matt had an emotional affair, Amy was surprised and angry anybody would actually want to be with Matt.)
• Amy and Matt get divorced.  Caryn is deemed by some to be a golddiger plotting to get the farm (although personally I question how much old cash Matt actually has.  I’m actually more curious as to if Caryn is still getting alimony and what her divorce payout was.  I think she likes Matt well enough, but I think if she were being influenced by anything, it was the show, more so than the actual farm.
• Chris comes into the picture after we see Amy playing The Bachelorette for several episodes. I paint Chris with a similar brush as Caryn in that I think the show and its benefits played a big part in Chris becoming MYMAN.  I actually think Chris loves Amy, but I think the show and his belief Amy would never cheat caused him to stick around long enough to figure out.
• Grandchildren are born.  King Jackson was crowned and OWNS everything: schools, doctors’ offices, Disneyland, rollercoasters, and your local Benihana, but much to the chagrin of his parents, he does not own the farm. Lilah doesn’t OWN anything, but in her defense, the poor child is is busy trying not to be sat on or driven into a tree.  
• Each of the twins attempt to buy the farm.  Apparently the twins are the only people that thought they would actually OWN the farm.  Amy is mad she didn’t get more money for the farm the boys didn’t get the farm. Matt is mad his kids are idiots and that there was a greater chance of Irate Panda purchasing the Pepperidge Farms empire than Dumb and Dumber making this plan work his kids didn’t step up and try to really learn the business.
• All pets on the show starting from Rocky through Murphy deserve better humans than all these morons.

*These musings are based on almost 0% facts and almost 100% speculation, but as a “reality” show viewer, I feel that’s totally appropriate 😂

Why would Caryn be getting alimony ?  

[Irate Panda]

17 minutes ago, athousandclowns said:

Why would Caryn be getting alimony ?  

I don’t know the terms of her divorce, I was curious if she was.  

[BAForever]

Late into S3. Twins are 17. Second time I've seen them at Little People Convention. Second time Matt has discussed what a good place it is for Zach to meet girls. He's in high school! I get them wanting Zach to interact with other little people, but he's not interested in girls yet and is so immature. Is it maybe because Matt met Amy at a similar event? Why do they want him so badly to date? Funny quote "Zach is more mature than a lot of kids his age."  Ummm just no. Again, so happy to have this new (to me) escape from work.

[Redrum]

1 minute ago, BAForever said:

Why do they want him so badly to date?

My cynical thought is that they sure didn't want him to be gay.

[stoppro]

6 minutes ago, Redrum said:

My cynical thought is that they sure didn't want him to be gay.

You hit it right on the head.

[heatherchandler]

I am doing a re-watch of the show from the beginning, as background while I work.  It is funny to see - Zach is lazy as hell, Jeremy thinks he is god's gift and Matt and Amy couldn't stand each other from the beginning.  And their home is a disaster.

[Spazamanaz]

5 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

I am doing a re-watch of the show from the beginning, as background while I work.  It is funny to see - Zach is lazy as hell, Jeremy thinks he is god's gift and Matt and Amy couldn't stand each other from the beginning.  And their home is a disaster.

I have not watched the show from day one because of the disgusting mess of their house. I remember checking it out a couple of times but always changing the channel because I just couldn't watch the filth that they lived in. I started watching when Chris came around, things looked cleaner. And I'm surprised they allowed cameras in their home to capture that disgusting mess. I would be so embarrassed. 

[BAForever]

Up to twins getting drivers' licenses. They had to take their drving test in Amy's white mini van. When I had to do that with my sons,  we were notified in advance that car being driven must be clean on inside. My DMV would not have allowed their instructor in that car. 

Also Molly's 14th  birthday. The vacuum is in the living room as they are opening gifts. 

My mind still boggles at the clutter I see in the house.

[Jeanne222]

1 hour ago, BAForever said:

Up to twins getting drivers' licenses. They had to take their drving test in Amy's white mini van. When I had to do that with my sons,  we were notified in advance that car being driven must be clean on inside. My DMV would not have allowed their instructor in that car. 

Also Molly's 14th  birthday. The vacuum is in the living room as they are opening gifts. 

My mind still boggles at the clutter I see in the house.

It must have smelled bad to!  Zack peeing on the floor didn’t help matters 

I wonder if he still does that?  When he’s tired of course. 

[Redrum]

Since that time he peed on the floor was clearly stated to have happened when he was in first or second grade and was due to nightmares and fear of the dark (Season three episode 19 titled Room for Improvement) I doubt it's an issue.

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

It must have smelled bad to!  Zack peeing on the floor didn’t help matters 

I wonder if he still does that?  When he’s tired of course. 

It wouldn’t surprise me, Zach usually takes the path of least resistance….. if it’s 30 steps to the washroom and back and the corner is 5 ft away…. It’s Corner Time!  
 

[BAForever]

Up to S10. Jer is off to college, Amy wants to do a cookbook, Zach is failing to launch. Matt wants to buy the farm next door. No idea what Molly and Jacob are up to. 

Amy is no cook. She tastes cooking food in a pot from a spoon, then stirs with same spoon (company is coming, not just feeding her fam). And she tells Matt the food is nutritional. I would have used the word nutritious.

And the clutter- the whole fam is heading to Santa Barbara to check out Jer's college, and the house is trashed as they are heading out the door. 

[chenoa333]

Did I miss something or is Jeremy going to college yet again? What college...ULD? The University of Lazy Dorks?

[b4pjoe]

13 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

Did I miss something or is Jeremy going to college yet again? What college...ULD? The University of Lazy Dorks?

The person was talking about Jer going to college during season 10.

[BAForever]

6 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

Did I miss something or is Jeremy going to college yet again? What college...ULD? The University of Lazy Dorks?

Sorry Chenoa33. I discovered this gem of a show very recently. After a few weeks I just HAVE to comment. Since all of you have seen this sh****** ages ago, I just try to briefly comment. 

[Irate Panda]

On 9/21/2022 at 10:55 AM, BAForever said:

Up to S10. Jer is off to college, Amy wants to do a cookbook, Zach is failing to launch. Matt wants to buy the farm next door. No idea what Molly and Jacob are up to. 

Amy is no cook. She tastes cooking food in a pot from a spoon, then stirs with same spoon (company is coming, not just feeding her fam). And she tells Matt the food is nutritional. I would have used the word nutritious.

And the clutter- the whole fam is heading to Santa Barbara to check out Jer's college, and the house is trashed as they are heading out the door. 

The Roloffs never fail to disappoint! I remember watching this show as a kid and asking why is their house always dirty and why don’t the kids have sheets 😂 

[Endora]

Like someone I know would say “they weren’t brought up they were dragged up”.