All Episodes Talk: Small World, Big Lives

[Jeanne222]

37 minutes ago, Dibs said:

Amy is very proud of her sexy self and never hesitates to show off her body, but that WAS awkward considering it was ONLY the next-door neighbors.  I had gotten the impression from the Insta pics at the time that it was a large gathering, which would be fun with all the different jammies on parade.  But just the four adults ready for bed was giving me swinger vibes.  Also, Amy, a "competition" is usually blind; you don't START OUT telling the judges which entry is yours versus Chris's.

I’m pretty sure the ‘guests’ were paid so maybe just two in the budget!

[Hedgehog2022]

3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

They don't have plumbing in the cabin?  No running water? Yuk! I thought it was very. cute but if there is no plumbing who would stay there? 

Another one of Matt's vanity projects that he continues to say he "built"...he had the idea and sketched it out and then put into the capable hands of a professional log cabin builder. 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Hedgehog2022

[Hedgehog2022]

59 minutes ago, Libby said:

This was a quieter, low drama episode. For the most part, I enjoyed it. I needed a break from the awkward, tense Matt and Caryn/Zach and Tori visits.

I enjoyed Chris and Amy cooking their casseroles and their game night with Zach's family.

I could live without the friends visits. I think that whenever these reality shows have friends discussing things with the main characters, it's boring. I really couldn't care less what the friends think or say.

I wouldn't want every episode to be like this one, but it was fine for one week.

Next week, Arizona... That should be interesting. 

Let's be real...this Arizona trip was a coordinated and paid for by TLC to bring drama to the show. I am pretty sure Matt and Caryn did not have the idea to give Chris and Amy a wedding gift of visiting them in Arizona. The producers came up with this as a way of keeping viewers involved in some perceived tension and drama between these couples. 

[Hedgehog2022]

1 hour ago, Dibs said:

Well, let's be real; Lilah isn't exactly Miss Personality. 

In fact, Z&T had to tell us that she's FINALLY getting one at age 2 1/2.  When all someone says is "uh" with no facial expressions, I'm not sure how much of a relationship one can have with her...  They certainly went all out for her birthday and tried to engage with her each time they've seen her, but it's not easy when she's just kind of "there" and screams for Tori every time someone walks in the door.  Speaking of which, does Tori ever put that kid down?  She's either holding or carrying her constantly.  It seems to me Lilah could benefit from some play dates with kids if not OT/PT.

Yes, his legs look worse than ever!  Should they, like the Klein kids, be going to LP specialists?  That said, Tori really needs to take lessons from M&A on coping like an adult with surgeries; her anxiety and hypersolicitousness surrounding the whole thing aren't helping, and this is just their FIRST child to undergo the FIRST procedure.  Yikes!

As for that absolutely adorable cabin -- well done again, Matt! -- it's primitive camping or rather "glamping" since there's IS a structure, nice beds, a cozy woodstove, etc.  Plenty of people camp without a bathroom or running water.  In fact, Zach and Jackson did this just recently in the farm forest unless they ran to Grandpa's house to use the facilities at 2:00 a.m.  I wouldn't put it past him.

It's also possible there's a folding portable potty somewhere or even a composting toilet, which is very compact; they make them for campers.

I don't think it is fair to describe a small child as not being "exactly Miss Personality". She's only two years old! I suspect that Lilah might have some mild autism going on. She appears to be way behind verbally for her age and tends to play alone and not engage...all markers for autism. It doesn't help that her mother and father don't interact with her verbally and rarely play with her or read to her. Picking her up and carrying her around then plopping her down and walking away isn't interacting. They are way too invested in Jackson and give him tons of attention and interaction...poor Lilah is just left to her own world. I think if they were concerned at all about her age related markers like speech not being normal they would talk to their pediatrician about it and set up an appointment with a specialist. The sooner you tackle these things the better...I know firsthand since I have a child that was similar to Lilah and was very much speech delayed at age two.

First step was to get his hearing tested that rendered nothing and he was cleared. Once he started kindergarten, he was totally verbal but needed the help of a speech therapist to correct some pronounciation issues. He also had some physical education help as he was having difficulty with his small motor skills. All seemed to be going smoothly and he was  a straight A student all throughout  middle school and high school...college was more of a challenge socially and when he was a junior in college, a therapist suggested he get tested for autism. He was tested and diagnosed with Asperger's which is a mild form of autism that has markers in childhood like verbal delays and small motor skills issues. At the time when he was young, pediatricians were not knowledgable about autism and what to look for...now it's different and early intervention, even with a mild form of autism, is crucial to getting professional help to lead a healthy and productive life...Tori and Zach need to get Lilah a better pediatrician who can help her. 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Hedgehog2022

[bichonblitz]

19 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

And what’s all that shit piled under the shuffleboard table at Amy’s house, boxes and boxes of Amy’s precious clowns and coffee mugs? 🙄

Chris sure has mellowed out. There was a time something like that would have driven him crazy, now he's passive Chris making tater tot casseroles with his make believe neighbors and wearing ugly pj's to boot! Could marriage have changed him that much? He agrees to everything, nothing bothers him. Is pot legal in OR because it sure looks like it to me! 

Yes, Matt. You are right, you are close to 60 and getting too old to mess with the constant upkeep of the farm. Sell it!

I assumed the little cabin was more of a playhouse for the grandkids or a sort of man cave getaway, not a place where you would actually sleep over. Who knows. It was cute, though. 

What happened to Amy's besties Deb and what ever else the other one's name is? They used to be on all the time, even did those dreadul cooking segments on social media with Amy. This season we haven't seen them at all. 

[65mickey]

I would think that Jackson should be seeing a physical therapist who specializes in children if not little people. Just having his parent tell him to walk is not cutting it. 

[magemaud]

13 hours ago, 65mickey said:

 And they can take a Christmas show and make it boring.

I guess you didn’t find Amy and Chris’s Tater Tot Casserole competition compelling TV? 

[SunnyBeBe]

9 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Also with all the societal upheaval during the last several years it is almost like comfort food that’s it the same old same old with the Roloffs. 

I looked at some old photos of the family last night. Omg!  These are from the early seasons.  Scroll down to the one of Amy kissing Matt’s forehead!  Man, it takes me back.  Lol 

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/roloff-family-throwback-photos-134152/

[Endora]

The whole pajama thing was ridiculous and Amy running to the door when the neighbors arrived and striking a pose had me dying laughing.  Yes Amy your PJ’s are the nicest and you look the best.  None of the grown men I know would be caught dead having dinner with anyone in pajamas.  I thought the cabin looked very festive and was nice.  

Are ZiT calling their place a farm?  I don’t think it’s a farm.  It is just a house with property.  Is it zoned to be a farm?  The property J&A purchased is a farm and I think someone said it is only a short ride away from Roloff Farms.  Poor Murphy, I hope he is not kept outside permanently now.   What a disappointment those lights were, but I suppose that’s Zach’s best.  Game night dinner, Mac and Cheese and bagged Caesar salad. 

[1011101010001]

10 minutes ago, Endora said:

The whole pajama thing was ridiculous and Amy running to the door when the neighbors arrived and striking a pose had me dying laughing.  Yes Amy your PJ’s are the nicest and you look the best.  None of the grown men I know would be caught dead having dinner with anyone in pajamas.  I thought the cabin looked very festive and was nice.  

Are ZiT calling their place a farm?  I don’t think it’s a farm.  It is just a house with property.  Is it zoned to be a farm?  The property J&A purchased is a farm and I think someone said it is only a short ride away from Roloff Farms.  Poor Murphy, I hope he is not kept outside permanently now.   What a disappointment those lights were, but I suppose that’s Zach’s best.  Game night dinner, Mac and Cheese and bagged Caesar salad. 

Yet Amy claims she makes everything from scratch lol.  Man after the corn dog muffins now we got casserole with warm cottage cheese inside.  

[pdlinda]

7 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Yet Amy claims she makes everything from scratch lol.  Man after the corn dog muffins now we got casserole with warm cottage cheese inside.  

What I noticed about the food Amy (and Chris) serve is how HIGH CALORIE it is. 

The foods they serve seem to have a big emphasis on processed carbs and very little clean proteins, fruits and veggies. 

I can understand preparing tasty foods but from what I see, the foods she serves (Chris' casserole too) would pack the pounds on folks, especially in their age bracket.

[Hedgehog2022]

15 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Most of these episodes I watch out of habit.  I mean we are at the point that they are dragging Amy’s neighbors and Matt’s friends over for opinions on stuff they probably don’t even know or care about.  

Zach is a so lazy.  He should have just taken the lights and threw them on the ground…same energy.  If mediocre was a person.  I’m surprised Tori couldn’t find some Christmas decorating company that would come put up lights for some IG shilling.  Tori and Zach are like two bumps on a log, I mean I’m waiting for guest-starring scone lady and her pajama-wearing husband to come on because they were more exciting.  
 

I wish they’d drop the Amy vs. Matt garbage, I mean she’s remarried and Matt is basically “married”, plus it’s boring and repetitive, and we certainly don’t need any of their friends’ commentary.  Although, I guess, they have to put something on since Jackson is the only one of his household (besides Murphy) that has even the appearance of a personality.

I’d rather see a road trip with Murphy and Henry than this mess.

Poor Murphy...he deserves a better home where the hoomans love him and actually make him a part of the family. 

[1011101010001]

57 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

Poor Murphy...he deserves a better home where the hoomans love him and actually make him a part of the family. 

Imagine all the dogshit Zack is too lazy to pick up.

[Joan of Argh]

2 hours ago, pdlinda said:

What I noticed about the food Amy (and Chris) serve is how HIGH CALORIE it is. 

The foods they serve seem to have a big emphasis on processed carbs and very little clean proteins, fruits and veggies. 

I can understand preparing tasty foods but from what I see, the foods she serves (Chris' casserole too) would pack the pounds on folks, especially in their age bracket.

Exactly most of her recipes are high calorie, lots of fat, tons of garlic she also uses a lot of salt.

I can’t remember which recipe (it might have been her oven casserole French toast) she kept adding more heavy cream and more huge blobs of butter and chunks of cream cheese… then tons of syrup and whipped cream… I was like holy cow how much more cream, butter, cheese is she gonna add before it’s rich enough for her liking?  😖

[winsomeone]

When Murphy approached Zack who was lying on the floor, he said Git, git! Nice. Why was he lying on the floor in so many scenes? Do they not have chairs?

[65mickey]

When Tori was getting ready for Lilah's party she was doing all of the work and Zack was stretched out on the floor like some kind of bathing beauty. He did tell her not to stress out but he didn't bother to get up and lift a finger to help. Nice guy. 

[Jeanne222]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

When Tori was getting ready for Lilah's party she was doing all of the work and Zack was stretched out on the floor like some kind of bathing beauty. He did tell her not to stress out but he didn't bother to get up and lift a finger to help. Nice guy. 

I noticed that too. His usual self. All talk and no show!

[1011101010001]

5 hours ago, winsomeone said:

When Murphy approached Zack who was lying on the floor, he said Git, git! Nice. Why was he lying on the floor in so many scenes? Do they not have chairs?

He’s an overgrown child in so many ways.

[magemaud]

13 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Imagine all the dogshit Zack is too lazy to pick up.

That’s probably why they wanted a house with “property.” 

[pdlinda]

13 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

I can’t remember which recipe (it might have been her oven casserole French toast) she kept adding more heavy cream and more huge blobs of butter and chunks of cream cheese… then tons of syrup and whipped cream… I was like holy cow how much more cream, butter, cheese is she gonna add

As I was always taught about eating rich foods like that: 

"A MINUTE on your lips, 5 YRS on your hips😄"

Especially Amy, who needs to control the weight she puts on those hip and knee joints (as my surgeon told me when I had my knee and hip replaced after losing 100 lbs 15 YRS ago:  "For every pound of body weight you carry, it produces 7 LBS of pressure on your joints!"), should practice "healthy eating."

I notice that Amy's skin looks splotchy and sallow.  Chris looks like he's put on weight since their marriage.  

OK...I made my point👍

Edited June 23, 2022 by pdlinda

[DonnaMae]

On 6/16/2022 at 6:25 AM, Libby said:

 I wonder where Amy buys her clothes.  They aren't children's clothing.  I doubt that those matching Christmas pajamas came from Kohl's or Penney's.

[magemaud]

The show is on in the background and immediately after Zach yelled at Murphy for being in the way, they cut to one of those heart-wrenching ASPCA commercials with the abused and abandoned dogs caged outdoors. 

[Hedgehog2022]

6 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

I noticed that too. His usual self. All talk and no show!

That's how Matt and Amy raised those boys...to be lazy ass, entitled and indulged. 

Edited June 23, 2022 by Hedgehog2022

[Hedgehog2022]

46 minutes ago, magemaud said:

The show is on in the background and immediately after Zach yelled at Murphy for being in the way, they cut to one of those heart-wrenching ASPCA commercials with the abused and abandoned dogs caged outdoors. 

I just can't stand to watch Zach's behavior around that poor dog. It's really awful. If they don't love the dog and can't manage to find time to walk him or even give him some affection then let someone else take him and provide the kind of home he deserves. Zach  does not like dogs and his treatment of Murphy is appalling...what a miserable person Zach is. Who doesn't like a Bernese Mountain Dog?? Honestly, they are the most loving, sweet dogs ever. 

Edited June 23, 2022 by Hedgehog2022

[1011101010001]

Boy when Zack was going on and on about home-cooked meals, presumably cooked by either Amy or Tori.  I wonder if he has shown any interest in pitching in on the cooking or just expects to be waited on.  

[Hedgehog2022]

6 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Boy when Zack was going on and on about home-cooked meals, presumably cooked by either Amy or Tori.  I wonder if he has shown any interest in pitching in on the cooking or just expects to be waited on.  

Waited on of course! That's the way he and Jeremy were brought up. They never did a thing for themselves...they were waited on and never even had summer jobs when they were teenagers. Zach did some soccer stuff after high school and Jeremy? Never worked at all except with his own photography "business"...the only thing those two princes seem to be proficient in is making babies.

[1011101010001]

44 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

Waited on of course! That's the way he and Jeremy were brought up. They never did a thing for themselves...they were waited on and never even had summer jobs when they were teenagers. Zach did some soccer stuff after high school and Jeremy? Never worked at all except with his own photography "business"...the only thing those two princes seem to be proficient in is making babies.

Probably two-pump chumps.

[ginger90]

Clip:

[TipseyGirl]

On 6/21/2022 at 10:32 PM, Jeanne222 said:

They sure did. Amy and Chris and their wanna be neighbors dressed in Christmas Pajamas eating Tater Tot potato casserole and then we had some poorly hung Christmas lights for the grand finale!  Zack sure did give that light display his all!!!  :)

Oh, come on now. Give the poor lad a break. He decorated the broke-down lawn mower! He used a ladder to string lights in the tree! He was able to figure out on his own that you need a male and female end to plug lights properly!! Stand by because next year, BABE UH promises to hang more than three strings of lights!!!!!!

On 6/21/2022 at 9:49 PM, Joan of Argh said:

Wtf is going on with Zachs Hair, it looks like he got in a fight with a raccoon and lost.. he’s got bald spots everywhere.

He asked for the "Sling Blade Special".

Edited June 24, 2022 by TipseyGirl

[sandals]

He got it!!

[TipseyGirl]

2 hours ago, sandals said:

He got it!!

And then some!

[Dibs]

Far be it from me to defend Zach, but I wonder if those aren't scars from where his shunt was inserted to treat his achon-related hydrocephalus?  In that case, hair might not grow in those places.  The logical thing to do would be to wear it a bit longer to "combover" the bald spots, but this is Zach we're talking about.  At least he finally fixed his gray tooth, and for that we can all be grateful!

[pdlinda]

15 minutes ago, Dibs said:

At least he finally fixed his gray tooth, and for that we can all be grateful!

Ah, YES, I noticed his cosmetic dental work immediately!  

[Dibs]

3 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

Ah, YES, I noticed his cosmetic dental work immediately!  

In the camping episode, Jackson pointed to Zach's tooth and said, "Dada, you got somethin' right there..."  It was just its usual discoloration.  That's probably when TLC suggested it and offered to pay for the procedure.  It wouldn't have been covered by insurance, and we all know Zach is cheap!

Edited June 24, 2022 by Dibs

[pdlinda]

On 6/24/2022 at 11:12 AM, Dibs said:

In the camping episode, Jackson pointed to Zach's tooth and said, "Dada, you got somethin' right there..."  It was just its usual discoloration.  That's probably when TLC suggested it and offered to pay for the procedure.  It wouldn't have been covered by insurance, and we all know Zach is cheap!

Having had my share of cosmetic dental restorations, I can say without hesitation that "yes" I'm sure TLC funded the upgrade as these procedures are very costly!! ....and,  YES, I know Zach is very cheap and it wouldn't make any difference to him (apparently) if his front tooth was discolored or not.

The bald spots on his head (that I believe another poster mentioned were due to his shunt surgery) will no doubt remain as to remedy that situation he'd either have to get hair "plugs" or grow his hair longer, neither of which he's apparently prepared to do.

Edited June 25, 2022 by pdlinda

[floridamom]

Childrens' table manners irk me in general. Why don't parents teach their children how to eat? Jackson should be given smaller utensils and be taught how to use them during meals. Poor Lilah is off by herself; not placed next to her mom or dad. She needs to be fed. I highly doubt that these children eat enough due to not being fed and/or being shown HOW to eat. Hands all over the food and messy fingers. I was taught how to eat and taught my own children how to feed themselves. Jackson needs a booster seat when at the table.

[Absolom]

Jackson was four when the current episodes were filmed.  He didn't need to be fed.  Taught how to eat with properly sized utensils yes.  Lilah at two developmentally shouldn't be fed, but yes assisted and strongly encouraged to use utensils.  I noticed the mess and using her hands and unless she's seriously developmentally delayed, her parents need to get it together for that child.  

[Redrum]

Neither child looks like they are starving from not being fed. They could use better table manners, yes, but not getting enough to eat? No.

[Jeanne222]

I suspect there’s a lot of medical issues with all three children. They’re just not telling as well they shouldn’t. 

Amy and Matt only had Zack issues when raising their four. Zack and Tori have three children plus Zack who could have any number of things happen health wise. 

[pdlinda]

3 hours ago, Absolom said:

I noticed the mess and using her hands and unless she's seriously developmentally delayed, her parents need to get it together for that child.  

Apparently, that's easier said than done with those two!

[Passing Strange]

On 6/23/2022 at 9:37 PM, Joan of Argh said:

I go along with it because apparently it’s the PC thing to do but I’m really not that comfortable with accepting a human being living in a cardboard box is a “home” or someone living in a tent on the sidewalk in the bitter cold of winter is a “home”

You're right, that's not a home and it's not acceptable. Earlier in the thread people asked about the change in terms and the speculation was that it was because some people had shelter, even if it was minimal. That's not the reason. It's because "homeless" is usually a derogatory term.

My knee jerk reaction was "No, it's not," but when I thought about it, yeah, it is. I hear "homeless" and I don't think of a divorced mother living in her car in a parking lot while working several part time jobs to feed her kids. I think of a person wearing multiple layers of dirty, ragged clothes, pushing a grocery cart filled with trashy stuff and mumbling incoherently. Both kinds of houselessness exist and the idea is not to stigmatize either of them. We can't remedy the problem just by providing shelter. Most unhoused people need services beyond housing. The point of the change is to get us thinking about these people as people rather a problem and then working with them to fix the situation.

I'm not advocating for the change in terms. I just wanted to get the real reason for it out there so people have the facts to make the decision for themselves.

[magemaud]

On 6/24/2022 at 1:53 PM, Dibs said:

but this is Zach we're talking about.  At least he finally fixed his gray tooth, and for that we can all be grateful!

To me, Zach always looks like he has poor hygiene and is most likely smelly. 

[1011101010001]

3 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

You're right, that's not a home and it's not acceptable. Earlier in the thread people asked about the change in terms and the speculation was that it was because some people had shelter, even if it was minimal. That's not the reason. It's because "homeless" is usually a derogatory term.

My knee jerk reaction was "No, it's not," but when I thought about it, yeah, it is. I hear "homeless" and I don't think of a divorced mother living in her car in a parking lot while working several part time jobs to feed her kids. I think of a person wearing multiple layers of dirty, ragged clothes, pushing a grocery cart filled with trashy stuff and mumbling incoherently. Both kinds of houselessness exist and the idea is not to stigmatize either of them. We can't remedy the problem just by providing shelter. Most unhoused people need services beyond housing. The point of the change is to get us thinking about these people as people rather a problem and then working with them to fix the situation.

I'm not advocating for the change in terms. I just wanted to get the real reason for it out there so people have the facts to make the decision for themselves.

To me an apartment or condo is not a house so it’s confusing to say houseless when referring to homeless.  Maybe the term should be people without a stable residence.

[Passing Strange]

55 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

To me an apartment or condo is not a house so it’s confusing to say houseless when referring to homeless.  Maybe the term should be people without a stable residence.

I think it's not in the sense of a house, the free standing structure. It's related to housing as a synonym for shelter, the way, say, student housing can be a dorm or apartments.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Folks,

Let's take any further discussion about the term houseless to Small Talk.  

[Joan of Argh]

On 6/24/2022 at 10:53 AM, Dibs said:

 At least he finally fixed his gray tooth, and for that we can all be grateful!

That’s fixed?

still looks like a gray tooth to me, he should get his money back!

[Irate Panda]

1 hour ago, Joan of Argh said:

That’s fixed?

still looks like a gray tooth to me, he should get his money back!

Is this an Amy Roloff School of Selfies or is this just a close up screen capture so we can see his teeth?

[Joan of Argh]

13 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

Is this an Amy Roloff School of Selfies or is this just a close up screen capture so we can see his teeth?

Screen capture, if that’s fixed how bad was it before?.. looks the same to me 🤷‍♀️

[DonnaMae]

Zach really needs to see a dermatologist.  

[65mickey]

He seems to have a lot of small growths all over his face. I had a friend who had that condition especially on her neck. But yes he needs to see a dermatologist or a plastic surgeon to see about removing these. They are most likely not dangerous but so unsightly. My husband had one skin tag over one of his eyes. He went to a dermatologist and had it removed with no problems.