Jeopardy! Season 34 (2017-2018)

[opus]

14 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

As an editor, I would rewrite your sentence: "The victim was stabbed here (pointing to location, not body part!) and then dragged over there." Even better: "The victim was stabbed in the garage, then his body was dragged to the alley." I would never use "they" and I always rewrite when freelancers submit articles written in such a way.

I watched One Day at a Time with Ann Romano when it first aired. I've recently seen some of the reruns on ME-TV and I have to say, Schneider was/is totally a creepy stalker perv. I can't even watch now without wanting to call the cops on him and his porn 'stache.

That would have been totally AWESOME!

I accept your edits. :)

 

As for original show Schneider, he was definitely creepy early on. In the pilot he had a wife downstairs while he was hitting on Ann (and by dialogue, other woman in the building). They quickly retconned away the wife (making it that he had been married for a week in the past) and eventually made him a close friend to Ann and a father figure to Julie and Barbara, but I still can't believe they never stopped the "coming into their apartment with the pass key without knocking " bit.

[saber5055]

8 minutes ago, opus said:

I still can't believe they never stopped the "coming into their apartment with the pass key without knocking " bit.

Oh, I know. I found him creepy/pervy toward Julie and Barbara, too, not just Ann. He was always adjusting his "tool belt" around them. I would have put a chain on the door. Or better yet, move. I must have blocked the Schneider wife part. Sort of like I blocked Schneider, so thanks for the wife backstory!

[secnarf]

3 hours ago, Kathira said:

I got the Tudors, and that was pretty much it. I said Asuncion for the island, which I wonder if they would have accepted. Probably not. It is an island, but it's in the South Pacific, not the South Atlantic.

I don't think it should have been accepted - it is Spanish for "Assumption" (not ascension) and wouldn't fit the rest of the clue either.

[Cotypubby]

Ive never understood the opposition to singular “they.” It makes perfect sense when you don’t know if it’s he or she and sounds completely normal to me. I’ve been hearing and saying it all my life. 

[Mondrianyone]

2 minutes ago, Cotypubby said:

Ive never understood the opposition to singular “they.” It makes perfect sense when you don’t know if it’s he or she and sounds completely normal to me. I’ve been hearing and saying it all my life. 

I agree with this 100%.  The Brits have been using it forever, and nobody's died of it that I know of.  The alternatives all involve contortions that have you making decent sentences into complicated messes--he/she, him or her, changing strong active voice into weak passive voice.  People just get a bug up their asses about certain things and don't seem to be able to let go.  Beats me!

And don't get me started on "hopefully."  Frankly, I don't see the problem.  ;o)

[Toothbrush]

Loved Deidre, and am glad she won. Jon was really nice to look at, but too slow at times. And all 3 fell into the "I'll take the long-ass category title name for $xxx please Alex" trap.

Only TS I got were Allbee & Tudor. FJ was an instaget thanks to Catholic school from grades K-12. 

On 6/15/2018 at 6:47 PM, GreekGeek said:

Could you all reign in the misused words, please?

heh

On 6/15/2018 at 8:56 PM, saber5055 said:

I love Popeye's chicken.

Their chicken isn't as good as it used to be, but I could make a meal of their red beans & rice and biscuits. In fact, I have. Their biscuits were my #1 craving with mini-Toothbrush #1. 

[Prevailing Wind]

Taking the sleep study discussion to small talk...

[peeayebee]

11 hours ago, Toothbrush said:

Their chicken isn't as good as it used to be, but I could make a meal of their red beans & rice and biscuits. 

Oh my gosh YES! I love their red beans and rice. I haven't had it in many many years. The nearest Popeye's is kinda out of my way, but I keep thinking about stopping there.

[saber5055]

14 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

The Brits have been using it forever, and nobody's died of it that I know of. 

True that nobody's ever died from poor grammar, but many go apoplectic over it. Check out The Bachelor/ette board here after the THs on that show consistently say "She and I's relationship" and variations of that pronoun slaughtering. I never allow "they" (plural) when the subject is singular when I am editing. "Me and him went to the mall" ... yes, that sentence is understood, but correct? No. The dumbing down of the English language happens everywhere these days, and pretty much no one cares.

Popeyes: Get two pieces of chicken and a biscuit free if you take our survey!

Me: Okay!

I'm so about the fries I haven't had the red beans and rice. But I will next time based on reviews here.

12 hours ago, Toothbrush said:

Their chicken isn't as good as it used to be,

I've discovered that nothing is as good as it used to be. Life can be disappointing!

[Clanstarling]

26 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

True that nobody's ever died from poor grammar, but many go apoplectic over it. Check out The Bachelor/ette board here after the THs on that show consistently say "She and I's relationship" and variations of that pronoun slaughtering. I never allow "they" (plural) when the subject is singular when I am editing. "Me and him went to the mall" ... yes, that sentence is understood, but correct? No. The dumbing down of the English language happens everywhere these days, and pretty much no one cares.

Or, it's just changing and evolving, as it has since language began.

I mostly kid.  I cringe when "I" is used incorrectly - but only truly despise it when it is dialog written by people who should know better. And for lazy rhyming in songs. Don't get me started on fewer vs less.

[saber5055]

3 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

Don't get me started on fewer vs less.

When someone uses "more than" instead of the incorrect "over," I know that person either has a journalism degree or has been taught AP Style. And I am pleased beyond words! If I counted how many time I hear "over" (and mentally say "more than") in one day, I'd run out of numbers.

[ChicagoCita]

1 hour ago, Clanstarling said:

Don't get me started on fewer vs less.

I have rewritten Facebook memes that I like but can't bear to post with this grammatical error! 

Edited June 17, 2018 by ChicagoCita

[lb60]

19 hours ago, Toothbrush said:

FJ was an instaget thanks to Catholic school from grades K-12. 

Guess I shouldn't have transferred to public school after 4th grade.  Not that I had a say in the matter.

6 hours ago, saber5055 said:

.....consistently say "She and I's relationship".....

There is a special place in hell for those people. 

[Driad]

It makes my teeth itch when someone uses "they" for a singular person of known gender.  "If a pregnant woman has this problem, they should ..."

[Mondrianyone]

7 hours ago, saber5055 said:

True that nobody's ever died from poor grammar, but many go apoplectic over it. Check out The Bachelor/ette board here after the THs on that show consistently say "She and I's relationship" and variations of that pronoun slaughtering. I never allow "they" (plural) when the subject is singular when I am editing. "Me and him went to the mall" ... yes, that sentence is understood, but correct? No. The dumbing down of the English language happens everywhere these days, and pretty much no one cares.

I wasn't talking about poor grammar in general.  I was talking specifically about the singular "they."  It's the solution to a problem that didn't exist in the past.  Before it became uncomfortably obvious that women, you know . . . actually exist, the default pronoun was always the male.  "If a person finds that his passport is missing, he should . . ."  So now that we acknowledge that women's passports can also come up missing, how do we accommodate that reality in a sentence?  There are lots of awkward ways, and then there's what the Brits do.  It's not dumbing down, it's finding the least ugly alternative.  Let's make it what it's about, not what it isn't about, that's all.

[Brookside]

On 6/16/2018 at 5:08 PM, GenerationX said:

I've used they as a singular pronoun for years.  It doesn't take long to adopt, it's understood by the listener/reader, and it doesn't require a new word.

I agree with a previous poster that we need a new pronoun.  I refer to my child as "they" because of "their" gender identity, but people are often confused:

Acquaintance  "What's Alex up to?"

Me: "They're going to Disneyland next week."

Aquaintance  "Nice.  Who's she going with?"

Me:  "They're going alone."

Acquaintaince  ????

[Clanstarling]

10 hours ago, Brookside said:

I agree with a previous poster that we need a new pronoun.  I refer to my child as "they" because of "their" gender identity, but people are often confused:

Acquaintance  "What's Alex up to?"

Me: "They're going to Disneyland next week."

Aquaintance  "Nice.  Who's she going with?"

Me:  "They're going alone."

Acquaintaince  ????

From what I understand, there has been a push to find a new pronoun (and I think there is one proposed, but I forget what it is at the moment and my experts (daughters) are asleep). But yep, it is confusing.

[peeayebee]

22 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I've discovered that nothing is as good as it used to be.

Wise words.

 

14 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

I wasn't talking about poor grammar in general.  I was talking specifically about the singular "they."  It's the solution to a problem that didn't exist in the past.  Before it became uncomfortably obvious that women, you know . . . actually exist, the default pronoun was always the male.  "If a person finds that his passport is missing, he should . . ."  So now that we acknowledge that women's passports can also come up missing, how do we accommodate that reality in a sentence?  There are lots of awkward ways, and then there's what the Brits do. 

What do the Brits do?

When I'm posting and the gender is unknown or neutral, I type "s/he" or "his/hers" or something like that. It's not ideal. I try not to use they or their or them for the singular, but it's very awkward to say "his or hers," etc. Even typing it or the slash versions makes me feel oogie.

Edited June 18, 2018 by peeayebee

[saber5055]

1 hour ago, peeayebee said:

Even typing it or the slash versions makes me feel oogie.

I edit stories using "he/she" or "he or she" and I don't feel oogie about it at all. The journalist-trained marketing and PR director at a major corporation I work for also writes that. We are both comfortable with it and would never use "they" when talking about a singular person. Of course, we are both AP trained so perhaps that's the difference. What is "okay" in AP might not be "OK" in Chicago.

I've looked at today's FJ and am 100-percent positive I know it. So watch me be wrong!

[illdoc]

14 hours ago, Brookside said:

Acquaintance  "What's Alex up to?"

Me: "They're going to Disneyland next week."

Aquaintance  "Nice.  Who's she going with?"

Me:  "They're going alone."

Acquaintaince  ????

Couldn't you have not used a pronoun???  "Alex is going to Disneyland next week.", "Alex is going alone", etc.

[Brookside]

38 minutes ago, illdoc said:

Couldn't you have not used a pronoun???  "Alex is going to Disneyland next week.", "Alex is going alone", etc.

Personally, I find that kind of response awkward and stilted and difficult to sustain without sounding idiotic!  Ah well, I'll keep doing my best.

[Ritalin Smoothie]

Diana's brain fart during her Daily Double is exactly the worst-case nightmare scenario for me if I ever got on the show: the clue asked for an English dynasty (and she could've come up with the answer with relative ease), and yet her brain got stuck scrambling to come up with a Japanese dynasty because of the first part of the clue.  I suffered second-hand embarrassment for her when Alex revealed the answer, and the flicker of realization that she misinterpreted the clue flashed on her face for a split second.

[peeayebee]

1 hour ago, illdoc said:

Couldn't you have not used a pronoun???  "Alex is going to Disneyland next week.", "Alex is going alone", etc.

This one isn't a great example, because the person answering obviously knows if Alex is a boy or girl.

[Browncoat]

So glad middle girl didn't win!  Also I laughed and laughed when she kept starting in the middles of categories, and the DDs would be one clue up.  Gee, middle girl, maybe if you'd started at the tops, you would have found the DDs sooner (or at all)!

FJ was an instaget for me -- what other toy has liquid and a die, and is shaken?  I couldn't think of anything else.  I also got chicken, wonk, chain, and speculators, and noticed Alex only managed a feeble attempt at a Scottish accent before giving up halfway through the cock-a-leekie clue.

[Trey]

I am glad Deirdre won again.

My only ts was chicken - I wondered how they didn't get that one.

My thinking was the same as Browncoat's for FJ and I got it pretty quickly.  I did think of snow globe but that that isn't really a toy and I'm pretty sure they've been around for a lot longer than Magic 8 Ball.

Edited June 19, 2018 by Trey

[Mindthinkr]

I thought for sure that Alex and Deidre were going to have a French enunciation contest. Darn it. 

[DrScottie]

38 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

FJ was an instaget for me -- what other toy has liquid and a die, and is shaken?  I couldn't think of anything else.  I also got chicken, wonk, chain, and speculators, and noticed Alex only managed a feeble attempt at a Scottish accent before giving up halfway through the cock-a-leekie clue.

Magic 8 Bath...er Ball was an instaget for me also. 

I got those same TS and Iraq. The Euphrates river doesn't go through Saudi Arabia. I thought war was supposed to teach us geography. I also guessed the correct Ninja Turtle with that question about the Italian import. They were 0-3 for DDs, but I had all of them. 

33 minutes ago, Trey said:

My only ts was chicken - I wondered how they didn't get that one.

They didn't even ring in. 

Edited June 19, 2018 by DrScottie

[saber5055]

8 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I've looked at today's FJ and am 100-percent positive I know it. So watch me be wrong!

Congratulations Saber for instantly knowing today's Toddler-Jeopardy-level FJ! You rock!

[CarpeDiem54]

Yay for Deirdre!  I liked Erik okay.  Sara lost me immediately by starting in the middle.

I got chicken (cock-a-leekie makes another J appearance!), all three DDs - Iraq, Michelangelo, speculators - and wonk.

I guess I didn't understand FJ.  I thought the word "die" referred to colors, so I guessed lava lamp, even though it wasn't a toy.  The word agitate threw me off, too.  Total fail.

[saber5055]

1 minute ago, CarpeDiem54 said:

I guess I didn't understand FJ.  I thought the word "die" referred to colors, so I guessed lava lamp, even though it wasn't a toy.  The word agitate threw me off, too.  Total fail.

Magic 8 Ball says: "Try again."

I did admire Middle Woman's bold DD bets. No guts, no glory. Okay, so she had guts but no glory. Still, she would have rocked it if she had known the answer. At least it wasn't a woosy girlie bet. And didn't she get a Trebek "Good for you?" That accounts for something, if not another drink.

[opus]

28 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

Congratulations Saber for instantly knowing today's Toddler-Jeopardy-level FJ! You rock!

Edited June 19, 2018 by opus
Goofed up. I'll try again

[saber5055]

Opus, bwaahaha! Excellent.

[SHD]

I'll say this for Sara, she was the cheeriest "I just lost all my money" person I've seen in awhile. And she seemed so happily surprised when she would get on a roll.

I answered Tiffany's for the question about the store. Think they would've given it to me?

FJ was close to an Instaget for me. I had a moment of hesitation because I thought Magic 8 Ball was a '70's thing.

[lb60]

31 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

Congratulations Saber for instantly knowing today's Toddler-Jeopardy-level FJ! You rock!

<slow clap>

;-)

31 minutes ago, CarpeDiem54 said:

Yay for Deirdre!  I liked Erik okay.  Sara lost me immediately by starting in the middle.

Erik lost me with his stupid thumbs-up.  Deirdre needs to chill out with the wave.  Sara annoyed me for many reasons.  I laughed when she flamed out on the DD.  <is evil like that>

27 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

Magic 8 Ball says: "Try again."

Oh, my!!

My gets tonight were chicken and wonk.  FJ was an instaget.

[ChicagoCita]

47 minutes ago, CarpeDiem54 said:

I got chicken (cock-a-leekie makes another J appearance!),

I was surprised that the contestant who knew Diana Gabaldon wrote Outlander didn't know cock-a-leekie. That series is where I learned about 95% of what I know about Scotland.

[Etta Place]

Oh Alex, you fail again at Italian. The island is CAP-ri like goats, not Ca-PRI like short pants. 

Edited June 19, 2018 by Etta Place

[peeayebee]

Why is it obvious that cock-a-leekie stock is chicken? ... Oh... Is it the cock part? 

Did anyone know that Starlight Express was inspired/based on Thomas the Tank Engine? I sure didn't.

The only TS I got was wonk. I got Michelangelo in a guess.

I couldn't remember Capri, and that was just in a crossword puzzle I did with Blue Grotto in the clue.

I figured I was pretty smart when I came up with Magic 8 Ball. I guess that was easier than I thought.

[saber5055]

4 minutes ago, peeayebee said:

I figured I was pretty smart when I came up with Magic 8 Ball. I guess that was easier than I thought.

It was super simple because I got it. That's the barometer for smarts in this thread since I get FJ maybe once a month.

It helps that my best friend as a kid had a Magic 8 Ball and we played with it all the time, sometimes asking it some not-very-nice questions.

13 minutes ago, Etta Place said:

Oh Alex, you fail again at Italian. The island is CAP-ri like goats, not Ca-PRI like short pants. 

Ha ha. I used to have a goat named Caprine.

[biakbiak]

I wanted Sara to win because if her story about learning to drive stick only to be given an automatic was her most interesting one I wanted to see how lame the rest were.

[Prevailing Wind]

On 6/17/2018 at 12:45 PM, saber5055 said:

I've discovered that nothing is as good as it used to be.

Yup... They don't even make nostalgia like they used to.

[saber5055]

12 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

I wanted Sara to win because if her story about learning to drive stick only to be given an automatic was her most interesting one I wanted to see how lame the rest were.

Ha ha ha. Burn!

[Prevailing Wind]

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Ha ha. I used to have a goat named Caprine.

On Grimm, there was a wesen of the Ziegevolk type (goat-folk). His name was Billy Capra. I cracked up thinking, "Billy Goat!"
 

[Brookside]

Guess I'm stupid too since I didn't know FJ either.

[teebax]

Just now, Brookside said:

Guess I'm stupid too since I didn't know FJ either.

I'll join you in the stupid people corner. I guessed Etch-A-Sketch. When I saw they all got it immediately, I went back and re-read the clue. Nope, still would've said Etch-A-Sketch. (I used to shake mine a lot.)

I did get a couple of TS in the game, but I didn't care enough to write them down. I know I got two DDs correct that were missed but can't even remember what they. I'm on Teacher Summer Brain. It's a miracle I'm getting any correct at all, considering I rarely even know what day it is during this time of year.

[Pallida]

When I just listened to FJ, I initially thought it was “dye” instead of “die.”  Once I read it, I got the answer immediately. 

Aren’t you not supposed to shake a Magic 8 Ball? I thought agitating the liquid led to air bubbles. 

[DrScottie]

4 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I did admire Middle Woman's bold DD bets. No guts, no glory. Okay, so she had guts but no glory. Still, she would have rocked it if she had known the answer.

I always like to see people betting big on DDs too especially in the first round and it was the $400 clue. She already answered a few of the other clues in the category so I can see why she decided to make it a true Daily Double. It didn't work out, but I applaud her going for it.

[Mystery Author]

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In terms of unknown gender I think I'd go with "they". Like investigating a murder "They stabbed the victim here and then they dragged him over there". 

In my own writing I'd use: "The victim was stabbed here and dragged over there."

Re editing: SABER5055, I love you!

[Mystery Author]

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I was surprised that the contestant who knew Diana Gabaldon wrote Outlander didn't know cock-a-leekie.

And I was surprised Alex didn't correct the pronunciation of Gabaldon :)

I once did a (midnight) conference panel with Diana and some other authors. We read aloud the sexiest scene in one of our books.

When it was Diana's turn...boy oh boy oh girl oh!

[Prevailing Wind]

How does she pronounce her name? I've always wondered.

[Clanstarling]

12 hours ago, CarpeDiem54 said:

Yay for Deirdre!  I liked Erik okay.  Sara lost me immediately by starting in the middle.

I got chicken (cock-a-leekie makes another J appearance!), all three DDs - Iraq, Michelangelo, speculators - and wonk.

I guess I didn't understand FJ.  I thought the word "die" referred to colors, so I guessed lava lamp, even though it wasn't a toy.  The word agitate threw me off, too.  Total fail.

I didn't get chicken because I'm 12 and my mind went elsewhere (even though it was food), and I couldn't bring it back.

11 hours ago, ChicagoCita said:

I was surprised that the contestant who knew Diana Gabaldon wrote Outlander didn't know cock-a-leekie. That series is where I learned about 95% of what I know about Scotland.

Well, I love Gabaldon, and yes, have learned pretty much everythign I know about Scotland from her. But, my mind is a twisty place, apparently.

 

18 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

How does she pronounce her name? I've always wondered.

"Don" is the emphasized syllable and is pronounced like "bone" . I heard a mnemonic once (she may have said it, I forget) which was to think "Bad to the Bone."