Season 2 Discussion

[Frozendiva]

8 minutes ago, Deafening Roar said:

I truly believe Mohamed is 100% over and out as far as the whole Danielle debacle goes. He has nothing bad to say, as a matter of fact, he barely had anything at all to say unless asked. He wished her well and is ready to move on and put the whole mess behind him. I'm absolutely not and will never be on Mohamed's side but he showed that he's definitely checked out on the whole sidduation (as he calls it lol)

Danielle, on the other hand, sweetie, you are not a martyr, you don't have any business whatsoever warning any women about Mohamed and what he will potentially do to them. It's not your business anymore. In the words of Elsa and Anna, let it gooooooooooo girl and move on with your life. He didn't want you to start with and he will never want you. He used you but it is what it is. Cut your losses and stop trying to get money and deportation. Karma will get him eventually.

Both Mo and Danielle need to own their own crap. Danielle, Mo may or may not use other women now that he has what he wants - the ability to stay in the US.  Sure, he may find other women who are dumb as a box of hair, but that is on him and the other women. They can easily Google him and find the TLC show he was on. Spend less time on revenge and move forward with your own life. He's not worth it.

[DVDFreaker]

Danielle is way too obsessed about exporting him back to his home and I doubt any text messages in a book is going to convince the judge that Mohammed should be sent back, she needs to get over it and she is just wasting her time for nothing and I feel sorry for her new boyfriend

[brillia79]

1 minute ago, DVDFreaker said:

Danielle is way too obsessed about exporting him back to his home and I doubt any text messages in a book is going to convince the judge that Mohammed should be sent back, she needs to get over it and she is just wasting her time for nothing and I feel sorry for her new boyfriend

I wouldn't feel too bad for her new boyfriend. What's his name? George Glass?

[DVDFreaker]

3 minutes ago, brillia79 said:

I wouldn't feel too bad for her new boyfriend. What's his name? George Glass?

I would feel bad because he is with a woman who is an mental mess that can not get over Mohammed 

[Dobian]

Hello and welcome to 90 Day Fiance: Crappily Ever After.  Today's word is "stigma", brought to you by Loren.

I didn't think my opinion of Jorge could get any worse.  He proved me wrong tonight.

Edited September 4, 2017 by Dobian

[Horrified]

24 minutes ago, Teddybear said:

I think Chantel passed on her clenched jaw to Jorge.  He's doing really weird things with his mouth.  

A clenched jaw is a side effect of some psych medications.  Also a side-effect of anger, frustration, uptightedness.  

Chantal, Pedro and Alexei are the only ones not making fools of themselves during the tell-all.

Mohammed is giving me Andrew Cunanan vibes.  that being said, I wish him well.  He definitely gamed the system to get into the US but if he's gainfully employed and getting on with his life, lets just let him go.  Danielle is sad - and at this point, being exploited by TLC.

Why doesn't the host ask Pao why she doesn't get some other type of job?  Restaurant hostess, behind the cosmetics counter of the drugstore........you won't ever have a CAREER as a model.  Time to do something that will contribute to the household income without antagonizing your husband.  At this point, you are just taunting him.  But - as you and Loren have proven tonight, you love the drama.  And if drama doesn't exist, you create it.  

No one knows I watch this show.  It is my shameful secret.

[magemaud]

14 hours ago, SuzyLee said:

 Is Loren auditioning for Shawn Robinson's non-job?

Give the girl a couple of speaking engagements and she suddenly fancies herself a talk show host. 

Could Paola's hair look any more fried and straw-like? What an attention whore!

I'll bet I'm not the only person tonight who Googled "Russian Gold Digger Academy." And yes, it is real

Edited September 4, 2017 by magemaud
late night grammar error

[ALittleShelfish]

8 minutes ago, Horrified said:

Mohammed is giving me Andrew Cunanan vibes.  that being said, I wish him well.  He definitely gamed the system to get into the US but if he's gainfully employed and getting on with his life, lets just let him go.  Danielle is sad - and at this point, being exploited by TLC.

No one knows I watch this show.  It is my shameful secret.

Put some glasses on him, and he has an easy gig in the Lifetime Movie Channel biopic of Versace.   Excellent observation!

And same.. Total same.  My friends seem to think I don't watch ANY television, but they will never know the trashy shit I watch thanks to TLC :)

I keep wondering out loud (to myself and my dog), why can't Danielle just move TF on and go live life? But then I remember, Mo *IS* her life, everything about him *IS* her life.  Also... the TLC paychecks are her life.  As soon as she checks out of her Mo investment, then there's no storyline, and TLC has no need for her.  (WHICH IS TOTALLY FINE BY ME, IN CASE YOU'RE ASKING AROUND, TLC PRODUCER PEOPLE)

[ALittleShelfish]

4 minutes ago, SoshulMeedya said:

Mmmmm, yeah, I don't know. TLC struck gold with Danielle. I'm sure they've already dreamed up a way to keep exploiting her.

Now if TLC had Mama June and Honey Boo Boo move in with Danielle for a while, I'd watch that! 

(Obviously I'm a trashy tv whore, too.)?

I've never watched the Honey Boo Boo franchise, but I will cosign the crap out of a HBB/Danielle mashup.  

[Grumpy Lobster]

I am not sure what Paolo means by Russian Gold Digger Academy. Is that a real educational establishment with diplomas & degrees? Because I have never heard of it before. there are in fact trainings & workshops that you might call gold-digging courses. It is mostly a scam. you pay lots of money to sit in a room with other idiotic women and some "successful" lady of dubious past & presents that usually presents herself as a wife of a very very very rich man sells you a crappy story of how you too can wake up a princess next morning. 

Anyhow, Paolo must be jealous, because so far whatever education she got back home only scored her some cheap ass music videos, a matress commercial and an opportunity to be a discounted escort in Miami. 

Alexei is not Russian. He is Ukranian. He speaks a mix of Russian & Ukranian with his family. They all have quite a strong Ukranian accent. However, our cultures are very similar, and something tells me Mrs Tretts will be dumped in a couple of years because you can't slap a woman in the US to make her shut up  & stop embarassing you without getting in trouble with law enforcement agencies.

Loren & Paolo. That Heathers act is so 80's. It is Twenty-Seventeen, why don't you girls get a job?

[Desert Rat]

1 hour ago, brillia79 said:

I wouldn't feel too bad for her new boyfriend. What's his name? George Glass?

I feel bad for the new boyfriend, even if it is justpoor George Glass.?

Edited September 4, 2017 by Desert Rat

[Desert Rat]

11 hours ago, Emmeline said:

 

My sister is terminally ill with a rare form of cancer.  Since diagnosis she has survived 11 years.  She will never be cured but she will hang on as long as she can.  My point being that she was in one of the best hospitals in the country having a surgery that was a complete disaster.  Once back in a regular room one of the nurses comment to the other "oh, she has cancer all over".   Believe me I was on the phone to the head of nursing within minutes.  The head of nursing wanted to speak to my sister and I didn't want to have her repeat those words that nurse said so I let it go.  What is wrong with these people, certainly they must have a class or classes on how to handle patients and keep them motivated!  I'm sorry maybe all Chantel's brains are in her boobs, ODIOT!

Like it or not, gallows humor is a fact of life in the medical profession, among doctors, nurses and the rest. For example, fat people have biscuit-toxicity.  The more serious the field, the darker the humor.  Of course, patients and their families should not hear the jokes, but they are common.  Such humor is accepted because it allows these professionals to cope with the realities of the situation.  

[mrsh]

2 hours ago, brillia79 said:

I wouldn't feel too bad for her new boyfriend. What's his name? George Glass?

LOL, this is exactly what I said to my husband when she said she had a boyfriend!

[Real Eyes]

7 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I think Alexei took offense to Pao saying that Russia has 'Gold Digging Academies."  Given that they have his hometown listed as "Nazareth", I keep forgetting that he is Russian. 

He's not Russian.  He is a Ukrainian Jew. His family at times speaks Russian but they often speak surzhik. 

Edited September 4, 2017 by Real Eyes

[sasha206]

5 hours ago, Desert Rat said:

Like it or not, gallows humor is a fact of life in the medical profession, among doctors, nurses and the rest. For example, fat people have biscuit-toxicity.  The more serious the field, the darker the humor.  Of course, patients and their families should not hear the jokes, but they are common.  Such humor is accepted because it allows these professionals to cope with the realities of the situation.  

I must have missed something but where is the "gallows humor" in that story?  It sounds like the nurse made a comment about the patient's health within earshot of the family/patient, not an attempt at humor.  Gallows humor happens everywhere yes.  But gallows humor isn't acceptable in front of patients or their loved ones.   Professionals know this.

8 hours ago, Emmeline said:

Personally I no not think Anfisa has a beautiful, pretty or even cute face.  Plus she needs work on her adenoids to improve that nasal sounding voice.  It's all about her booty.  I actually think Jorge is nice looking if he could loose some weight he would be handsome.

I agree about Jorge.  If she thought he was rich, I could see her actually falling in love with him. I say this after traveling to Russia and seeing what she'd have to compare him too.  A lot of the men there are very burly.

[poeticlicensed]

I swear I read somewhere that Danielle signed on to one of those cheesy makeover shows. If that's true, maybe she figures she needs to keep the drama going to continue with the reality TV payday. But otoh, she seems totally obsessed with slimy Mo. She wants her money back and an apology and for him to be deported. Since none of that is going to happen, it's unhealthy for her to keep stalking him. We got to see the notebook y'all! So it's full of texts to other women and she wanted to present it in court? Oh my I'm sure the judge shut that down. But I also don't believe Mo for one second that he wants to disappear . This from the man who brings a selfie stick into a courthouse so he can broadcast live his hearing to his "followers". He will continue to be all over socchul meedya looking for women to exploit and playing the victim. He loves those reality show paychecks as much as Dani does. He's an Uber driver ferfuckssakes. 

[sasha206]

11 hours ago, SuzyLee said:

Bless Danielle's heart.  I'm serious.  This pathetic 40-something woman keeps a binder of print-outs of her ex-husband's text messages to other women and plans to send it to Immigration in the hopes that they'll deport him.  I haven't felt so sad for someone in a long time.  I really don't give a shit what happens to Mohamed at this point.  He'll continue to collect his TLC checks, run his mouth, and work/grift his way through a succession of weak-willed women.  He'll be just fine.  Danielle, however, does not seem to have the ability to stop herself from keeping this ball rolling with him, especially on soshul meedya.  She clearly has no desire to pick up the pieces and create some semblance of a normal adult life, whether it involves a man (please, God, no) or not.  I don't think she can at this point.  I say yet again that someone should have control over her affairs because I don't think she's capable of doing it herself.  Unfortunately, women like Danielle are ripe for the picking for men like Mohamed.  The only good thing about her situation is that her kids are pretty much grown, so they're no longer directly affected by their mother's extraordinarily poor choices on just about every level

She is pathetic.  I have zero sympathy for her or any other American that goes overseas, brings home someone they don't know to marry them, and gets scammed.  Danielle could find herself a relationship in this country; she just can't get the handsome American that she lusts over and can control through threats of deportation.

Except for the couples that seemingly met each other while on vacation, the couples they show are all the same.  Dumpy American brings home lithe foreigner who is out of their league otherwise.  Paws all over them. Controls them through threat of not marrying them, divorcing them, or turning them into immigration when they discover they can't control them anymore.  

And then there is the ridiculous amounts of money spent for this control.  Money that should be going towards bettering their own lives, their children's lives.  

8 hours ago, 7isBlue said:

This show really needs the editors from Real Housewives: They would have a field day with her! She is so full of herself. The constant flipping of that cheap weave (and the eye-rolls, and lip pursing) was beyond annoying. 

She really thinks she is the hottest woman on the planet.  That "hair" is ridiculous.  Sofia Vergera she is not.

Edited September 4, 2017 by sasha206

[sasha206]

Shaun Robinson really is the worst.  Her face and reactions annoy me!  Hard to believe she's a journalist if she's so bad at interviewing people.

[Granny58]

before I get started reading, I just have to blurt out....PAO IS A MEAN GIRL and Loren isn't far behind.  

[Granny58]

11 hours ago, kacesq said:

 I will meet you in that thread later so we can laugh our butts off!!!

did anyone catch who told Paola that there were gold diggers academies in Colombia?

it was Alexei and it was GOLDEN.   

11 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Mo came across as a chilling, misogynistic asshole. He should pay Danielle back.

Interesting perspective.  I thought he came across as mature.  

[DVDFreaker]

23 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

Shaun Robinson really is the worst.  Her face and reactions annoy me!  Hard to believe she's a journalist if she's so bad at interviewing people.

I agree with that, she is awful and I cringe at her reactions, she should do something else than interviewing people and she asks some stupid questions too 

[sasha206]

2 minutes ago, DVDFreaker said:

I agree with that, she is awful and I cringe at her reactions, she should do something else than interviewing people and she asks some stupid questions too 

I feel like the sequence is this:

Someone says something fairly outrageous.

Her: Whoa (or grunting).  Incredulous face.  Then, " I don't even know who to start with after that comment."  This gives her time to wait  for producer to feed her the next question through her earpiece.

[Granny58]

8 hours ago, Deafening Roar said:

Danielle, on the other hand, sweetie, you are not a martyr, you don't have any business whatsoever warning any women about Mohamed and what he will potentially do to them. It's not your business anymore. In the words of Elsa and Anna, let it gooooooooooo girl and move on with your life. He didn't want you to start with and he will never want you. He used you but it is what it is. Cut your losses and stop trying to get money and deportation. Karma will get him eventually.

agree with most of this, except she doesn't even really want the money.  She hadn't brought it up before.  It's just another angle to keep in touch with Mohammed.  She is obsessed with the guy.  

[DVDFreaker]

11 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Mo came across as a chilling, misogynistic asshole. He should pay Danielle back.

Why should he pay Danielle back? He does not owe Danielle anything

[shannew]

NO MORE SHAUN!!!!     I need Kevin Frasier to chime in and not sit there like a deer in the highlights.

[Polliwollidoodle]

 I thought I was quoting a post but it's not here. Anyway I agree with most of what you are saying- primarily that the host is lousy. With all these people striving to be on tv how they find such lukewarm unsharp people is beyond me.

I happen to wish that  Mahommit gets deported . He is a horrible person and ABSOLUTELY yes an Andrew Cunaanan vibe (or someone else NOT nice). Deport him.

Danielle, as I have said from way back, is truly challenged mentally. I really think that and wish someone would just shoo her off this program and let her go back to her life. 

The area where I disagree with most of you is that I thought (other than the talking over people) that Loren was great. I thought she was rightly calling out the ones who really went into this for a fake purpose.  I didn't quite get the Pao  Loren bond , but I did think Loren was right on. ( have to admit I though Pao's question to Anfisa about the golddigger academy was a bizarre and I actually thought Anfisa's reaction to it was pretty sharp).

[Awfarmington]

28 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

agree with most of this, except she doesn't even really want the money.  She hadn't brought it up before.  It's just another angle to keep in touch with Mohammed.  She is obsessed with the guy.  

Agreed. She's looking to legitimize her need to keep Mo in her life. If he paid her back, she'd find another reason to hyper-focus on him...he needs to wash the dirty dishes he left behind, give back the toe nail clippers he took, anything. 

[DVDFreaker]

3 minutes ago, mayvenne said:

 I thought I was quoting a post but it's not here. Anyway I agree with most of what you are saying- primarily that the host is lousy. With all these people striving to be on tv how they find such lukewarm unsharp people is beyond me.

I happen to wish that  Mahommit gets deported . He is a horrible person and ABSOLUTELY yes an Andrew Cunaanan vibe (or someone else NOT nice). Deport him.

Danielle, as I have said from way back, is truly challenged mentally. I really think that and wish someone would just shoo her off this program and let her go back to her life. 

The area where I disagree with most of you is that I thought (other than the talking over people) that Loren was great. I thought she was rightly calling out the ones who really went into this for a fake purpose.  I didn't quite get the Pao  Loren bond , but I did think Loren was right on. ( have to admit I though Pao's question to Anfisa about the golddigger academy was a bizarre and I actually thought Anfisa's reaction to it was pretty sharp).

But Loren is making everyone look bad though so that is why she was being an asshole 

[fountain]

Some of Loren's going on with Mo was annoying to listen to. But I did feel he acted a  jerk a bit with comments like "calm down" as I think that is beyond rude and is something men say to women to put them in their place.  The rest of Loren's questions seemed fine.

Pao was so mean to Russ when she said he needed to tougher, IDK that came across as "be a man".  Maybe it was just because she was hurt that Russ stumbled badly on the what he loved about her question.  I don't think insulting your spouse on tv is a way to a healthy marriage.

ETA the best part of Loren's questions is that she was making people look bad.  They are all adults and on tv and should be able to discuss their actions. Look how Pedro and Chanel handled the discussion of their bad behaviour, they had decent answers and didn't get emotional.

Edited September 4, 2017 by fountain

[guilfoyleatpp]

8 hours ago, SoshulMeedya said:

Mmmmm, yeah, I don't know. TLC struck gold with Danielle. I'm sure they've already dreamed up a way to keep exploiting her.

Now if TLC had Mama June and Honey Boo Boo move in with Danielle for a while, I'd watch that! 

(Obviously I'm a trashy tv whore, too.)?

I think in the Danielle and Mohammed thread there were links to a makeover show for Danielle, a'la Mama June.

[Drogo]

I'm gonna need Danielle and Jorge to stop equating "love" with the obsessive creeper feels they have for Mo and Anfisa. It's maddening. 

You both lied to someone far away about being able to offer them a certain new life and security.  You got found out yet still tried to force your victim to stay in captivity.  They refused and now your life's mission is to ruin them.  

"Love" you say?  Fuck off, Danielle and Jorge. Mo and Anfisa, welcome to the States. 

[Sprockets]

13 hours ago, SuzyLee said:

Damn, girlfriend, dial it back a notch or four.  Speaking of Loren, I swear to God, if I never hear the word "Tourette's" again, it will be too freaking soon.

No kidding.  I am sick to DEATH of the non-sub-plot of no one knowing Tourette's was inherited.  ANYONE involved in this clusterhump issue could have taken 30 seconds to Google it and immediately seen it was transmitted genetically.  That's how much anyone cared.  

And Loren, no one cares about the nightmare of your (nearly unnoticeable) disease because front and center we have the screaming, crying, raging bugeyed bitch that you have CHOSEN to be in regard to every single subject in your life.  Everything is about you, all the time.  Guess how attractive that is?  Guess how long Alex is going to put up with that shit?  

There are people with serious disabilities out here, you selfish ignoramus.  People who cannot work because of their medical issues, people who cannot even walk.  But please, moan some more about your tiny little twitches.  

[mamadrama]

Pao, mi amore, there is a very thin line between Anfisa's web cam business and the direction in which I suspect your modeling "career" is heading. 'Hos in glass houses and all...

Edited September 4, 2017 by mamadrama

[Drogo]

Loren's high and mighty attitude toward the split couples is funny.  She and Alexei are only still together because he's a very forgiving soul.  

If Alexei had left (after one of the major lies Loren told him) Loren would be just as hung up as Danielle is. 

[DangerousMinds]

1 hour ago, DVDFreaker said:

Why should he pay Danielle back? He does not owe Danielle anything

IMO he owes her half of what she had to pay to bring him here. Just my opinion

[Granny58]

24 minutes ago, fountain said:

Pao was so mean to Russ when she said he needed to tougher, IDK that came across as "be a man".  

Frankly, I think he needs to be tougher too.  Not that he needs to be mean or a jerk, but he needs to stand his ground.  He's a milquetoast.  She talks circles around him and ends up agreeing with her.  Also, lose the Hitler hairdo. 

[DangerousMinds]

40 minutes ago, mayvenne said:

 I thought I was quoting a post but it's not here. Anyway I agree with most of what you are saying- primarily that the host is lousy. With all these people striving to be on tv how they find such lukewarm unsharp people is beyond me.

I happen to wish that  Mahommit gets deported . He is a horrible person and ABSOLUTELY yes an Andrew Cunaanan vibe (or someone else NOT nice). Deport him.

Danielle, as I have said from way back, is truly challenged mentally. I really think that and wish someone would just shoo her off this program and let her go back to her life. 

The area where I disagree with most of you is that I thought (other than the talking over people) that Loren was great. I thought she was rightly calling out the ones who really went into this for a fake purpose.  I didn't quite get the Pao  Loren bond , but I did think Loren was right on. ( have to admit I though Pao's question to Anfisa about the golddigger academy was a bizarre and I actually thought Anfisa's reaction to it was pretty sharp).

I don't blame Loren for being pissed that Alexei's application for the visa was denied 2/3 times, and Anfisa's was approved within 2 months. But that's on the US immigration department. But she's right that it makes no sense and isn't fair.

[DVDFreaker]

2 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

IMO he owes her half of what she had to pay to bring him here. Just my opinion

I disagree on that and I doubt he will because they already agreed on the terms on finances in court for divorce so it is too late now 

[DangerousMinds]

He could always choose to be a better person and repay some of the money, court or no court. But he won't because he is a greedy asshole.

[Drogo]

6 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

He could always choose to be a better person and repay some of the money, court or no court. But he won't because he is a greedy asshole.

And because he doesn't have to. 

He's not exactly "comfortable" financially. 

[AZChristian]

Anyone else pick up on Mo's comment that Danielle had some sort of situation that needed to be treated by a doctor before she could have sex with him?  She didn't deny it, as far as I can recall.  

I look at these situations as one where the US citizen is investing in a dream with their "fiance."  Some investments turn out well, and the dream is realized.  Some turn into nightmares.  There are no promises or ability to figure out what it's going to be up-front.  Jorge, Danielle, Russ . . . cut your losses and consider the money you invested to be gone.  Let it go.  Move on.

[DVDFreaker]

3 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

He could always choose to be a better person and repay some of the money, court or no court. But he won't because he is a greedy asshole.

Umm, no, there is no point in repaying her some of the money because she will still be stalking him anyway so Mohameed should just disappear like he said he is going to and get away from that obsessive woman for life

[Sprockets]

10 hours ago, Pachengala said:

 

I thought Mahamit acquitted himself as well as he could, mostly staying quiet and then wishing Danielle well

 

I totally agree.  Mo was a class act on the show, at least compared to some of the rest of them.  He may appear to be snotty, but he's just reserved.  I was set against him at the start, but I think very highly of him now.  He apparently holds down a real job, and his English has improved dramatically, unlike some of the others ("the family Chantal," oh please).  Danielle completely misrepresented herself to him and no doubt he was shocked by what he found out on many levels.  Also, she is crazy.  

I would also like to know where this money Danielle is talking about came from.  She has none. I've never been clear how she proved she could support Mo, as she had to do on the visa application.  I suspect there was a cosigner, because nothing else makes sense.  

Edited September 4, 2017 by Sprockets
had another thought

[mamadrama]

35 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I don't blame Loren for being pissed that Alexei's application for the visa was denied 2/3 times, and Anfisa's was approved within 2 months. But that's on the US immigration department. But she's right that it makes no sense and isn't fair.

I honestly can't understand why it was denied, unless they didn't fill it out correctly. On visa journey, there were around 100 of us that applied at the same time and nobody got denied the visa. Some took longer to get thsn others, of course. Now later, with the adjustment of status and stuffm was a different story. The initial process was easy-pay the fee, prove income, pass a background check, and get a general medical exam. The hard stuff came after the wedding, when you had to document your life together and go through the tough interviews.

[Adeejay]

49 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I don't blame Loren for being pissed that Alexei's application for the visa was denied 2/3 times, and Anfisa's was approved within 2 months. But that's on the US immigration department. But she's right that it makes no sense and isn't fair.

It isn't fair.  However, it's based on the immigration officer.  Some people are lucky to get an officer who is lenient and others may get a Nurse Ratchet.  It's the luck of the draw.  Loren tends to ask tough questions, so I would love to see her moderate The Duggars and Sister Wives Tell Alls. 

[poeticlicensed]

12 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I honestly can't understand why it was denied, unless they didn't fill it out correctly. On visa journey, there were around 100 of us that applied at the same time and nobody got denied the visa. Some took longer to get thsn others, of course. Now later, with the adjustment of status and stuffm was a different story. The initial process was easy-pay the fee, prove income, pass a background check, and get a general medical exam. The hard stuff came after the wedding, when you had to document your life together and go through the tough interviews.

Young men from middle eastern countries, even those who the US is friendly with I suspect are more heavily scrutinized.

Loren was saying all the things and asking the questions I have been screaming at my TV for the last several months lol. 

[Cini]

11 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I honestly can't understand why it was denied, unless they didn't fill it out correctly. On visa journey, there were around 100 of us that applied at the same time and nobody got denied the visa. Some took longer to get thsn others, of course. Now later, with the adjustment of status and stuffm was a different story. The initial process was easy-pay the fee, prove income, pass a background check, and get a general medical exam. The hard stuff came after the wedding, when you had to document your life together and go through the tough interviews.

And even that seems to vary. I came on an investment visa, a few years later got married and getting the green card was a breeze. The "Interview" took all of one minute and the immigration officer didn't question any of our documents. Another 14 years later, I finally applied for citizenship (because by then I could keep my German citizenship as well) and that was even easier. 

[Cini]

I thought Anfisa handled herself well with regards to the bullying by Pao and Loren. Pao especially is starting to show how ugly her character really is.

Somebody needs to tell Pao that the extensions and bleaching will completely ruin what little natural hair she has left. Her dark wigs looked so much better than the ratty grey-ish orange extensions

[Granny58]

56 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Anyone else pick up on Mo's comment that Danielle had some sort of situation that needed to be treated by a doctor before she could have sex with him?  She didn't deny it, as far as I can recall.  

IIRC, this was a urinary issue (prolapse, or leakage, or something).  Very nasty to mention it on air.

[Granny58]

10 minutes ago, Cini said:

Somebody needs to tell Pao that the extensions and bleaching will completely ruin what little natural hair she has left. Her dark wigs looked so much better than the ratty grey-ish orange extensions

which she so enjoys flipping around.  I get it...I wish my hair did that...but please be a bit more mature.