Season 19 Live Feed Discussion

[Lady Calypso]

3 minutes ago, missyb said:

Alex is playing a good game . She has a very loyal triad around her. Jason and Paul and Paul has Xmas and Josh. She is winning comps, speaking out, getting into scrapes and while playing beta to Pauls alpha, up until later she was doing better jury management. That may have slipped a bit.  I don't love her personality , but she has been honest and much more straight forward than Pauls subterfuge. I would prefer her over Paul.

She's playing a good game...just not the better game (yet). Right now, she's still playing a little bit too much of Paul's game for him. I need to hear her thought process by herself to get a better idea of where her head's at. She's hinted that she may not be fully Paul's minion with her conversation with Cody/Jason last night, which gives me hope...but until I see direct confirmation, I do place her underneath Paul's game. If she can see what game he's playing and eventually challenge it, then I will surely call her the better player.

2 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I am particularly interested when Paul turns on Christmas or Alex.  

Cody brought up a good point that he may just get Christmas to F3 because she automatically will lose the first challenge, as it's endurance, and she has a less likely chance of winning Part 2. She's a perfect goat to bring along because of her injury, which is why I think Paul will consider keeping her until she threatens his game. Alex, on the other hand, is surely being cut at F5. 

[Wings]

2 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Cody brought up a good point that he may just get Christmas to F3 because she automatically will lose the first challenge, as it's endurance, and she has a less likely chance of winning Part 2. She's a perfect goat to bring along because of her injury, which is why I think Paul will consider keeping her until she threatens his game. Alex, on the other hand, is surely being cut at F5. 

Christmas is getting a boot next week so by the time F3 rolls around she may very well be able to do endurance; it could be a swinging chair comp or one not dependent on standing.  

[Jeanne222]

Ok I read the last couple of pages and here is what I'm thinking.  If Elena and Mark would stop being so scared of Paul and form a strong three person alliance I think a couple of the floaters that know they are bottom of the barrel might join up.  But being scared to talk to each other and ducking in and out of rooms for fear of being caught by Paul makes them look like a weak alliance.

I kind of think Matt might just be talked into some kind of alliance with them.  He has to know Alex and Jason are way up on the poll above him and he has to see Raven is probably going to go soon.  She doesn't see that because she's a bubble head but that's another story.

From the look on Kevins face when Paul and Christmas are talking he might be another one to jump ship.

If they vote out Cody they have no mast head.  Nobody willing to take on Paul.  Actually if they vote out Cody I might just stop watching this dumb season too.

So looking at the line up of Cody, Elena and Matt on the block I am thinking they need to take out Elena and form a Cody, Mark and Matt alliance.  Woo Kevin and get Jason away from Alex's apron strings.  The work like hell to win this next competition and up goes Paul and Christmas.  Saving Alex as part of the deal to Jason for joining up with the group.

I compare this season to the season we spent in bed with Pizza Delivery Guy McCrae and Amanda.  Uggg.

BTW I never eat an English Muffin that I don't think of Vanessa!!!

Edited August 15, 2017 by Jeanne222

[Ceeg]

2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

I disagree, only in the sense that Vanessa's downfall was that she DIDN'T have everyone devoted to her like Derrick and Hayden did. So far, Paul has that.  Cody turned down $500,000 just to lose to Derrick! I imagine we'd see the same happen here, where Player X will take Paul over Player Y that they could beat more easily. But yes, of course, Paul has to actually DO it. It's still technically up in the air if he even wins. 

Steve benefited from being a super fan and coming right off the back of Cody doing that. He repeatedly told himself in pep talks that he wouldn't be a Cody. Most of the jokers in this house probably barely even know who Cody is, let alone how and why he threw away first place. 

Id also argue that Vanessa and Steve were in a house full of gamers. Some played way too hard, but at least they were mostly (except Meg) all playing for themselves. This crew has no concept of playing to win. 

[Jeanne222]

Somebody PLEASE make a move this week!!!    When is Zingbot due for a wakeup call?   I donno the more I think about it I think this ship has sunk!

[Lady Calypso]

3 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I kind of think Matt might just be talked into some kind of alliance with them.  He has to know Alex and Jason are way up on the poll above him and he has to see Raven is probably going to go soon.  She doesn't see that because she's a bubble head but that's another story.

Here's the thing about Matt: he doesn't care about winning. He seems perfectly fine now that he's hit jury to go at any time. Every time anyone has tried talking game with him, he just laughs like an idiot and mumbles something that doesn't sound like he knows that he's playing a game. He even told Elena that he knows his strengths aren't his social game or competitions, and his strategy is to continue chilling out. So I don't think he can be talked into any sort of alliance, not with Raven still around. If she was gone, that would be a different story because then what would he do all day if he couldn't lounge with Raven? 

8 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

If they vote out Cody they have no mast head.  Nobody willing to take on Paul.  Actually if they vote out Cody I might just stop watching this dumb season too.

They will be voting out Cody, there's no doubt about that. Alex/Jason don't want to anger Paul/the "house", Josh is too far up Paul's ass, Christmas doesn't like Cody, and Kevin's tried and failed to keep Cody around. 

The sad thing is that the only person that really needs Cody out is Paul. Alex, Jason, Kevin, Josh, Mark, and Elena very much like Cody. Alex/Jason know that Cody is going to be loyal to them. Rope in Mark/Elena and that's a solid five group right there. If Matt was voted out, Raven would float to Paul's side and it would be Paul/Christmas/Josh/Raven vs Alex/Jason/Cody/Mark/Elena/Kevin. They'd legit have the majority. They just won't. 

Nothing will be done, though, so it's really disappointing. 

[ByaNose]

Yeah, they really need Zingbot to wake some of these HG up. I'm sure everyone will laugh at whatever Zingbot says but someting will be said to make one of them think, right? Who am I kidding! These people are dumb as rocks. They'll all probably cheer the loudest what Zingbot says to Paul. 'Oh Paul, you got the greatest zing ever! You're the greatest". Oh, brother!!!!

[Wings]

Another thing with Matt.  Early on Paul made a hush, hush F3 deal with he and Raven, both agreeing that they had to get Raven to the end so she could win (hysterical)  They think they are totally safe and going to the end.  Notice how much time they spend alone together without a worry of what is being said in other rooms.   Paul checks with Matt on occasion in hushed tones to keep him thinking the deal is real.  

And on top of that Matt doesn't really care!  

10 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

They will be voting out Cody, there's no doubt about that. Alex/Jason don't want to anger Paul/the "house", Josh is too far up Paul's ass, Christmas doesn't like Cody, and Kevin's tried and failed to keep Cody around. 

The sad thing is that the only person that really needs Cody out is Paul. Alex, Jason, Kevin, Josh, Mark, and Elena very much like Cody. Alex/Jason know that Cody is going to be loyal to them. Rope in Mark/Elena and that's a solid five group right there. If Matt was voted out, Raven would float to Paul's side and it would be Paul/Christmas/Josh/Raven vs Alex/Jason/Cody/Mark/Elena/Kevin. They'd legit have the majority. They just won't. 

Nothing will be done, though, so it's really disappointing. 

Disappointing and frustrating.  Zingbot was needed this week.  He will arrive way too late. 

Edited August 15, 2017 by wings707

[NeverLate]

56 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

I'm at the point where, once Mark goes, I don't like anyone so I have to root for the best player, even if they have the shittiest personality. So unfortunately, that is Paul. At least he's been playing the damn game. Everyone else is sitting around, handing him the win. He's been working his ass off whenever he's been awake to play the game. Even if I hate his method, there's no argument from me that he's just been chilling since getting there. He had safety for four evictions, sure. He had a lot to keep him in the game. But he's been manipulating these fools from the get-go, roped in the ones most loyal to him and he's gotten out every single one of HIS targets, even when the actual HOH had a different target.

So, at the moment, I gotta be Team Good Feeds and watch Paul stab every single one of his allies in the back as he sends them out the door. I just wish some of his targets aligned with mine (Josh, Alex, Christmas, Raven). I will look forward to Alex, Raven, and Kevin realizing what happened as he's kicking them out.

God; I never wanted to admit all of this or be on Paul's side for a second. He may technically be playing a shitty game compared to others....but the houseguests around him are playing worse, so he's the best player this season, whether I like it or not (I don't). 

I could manipulate that lot, so for me Paul is no big winner.I simply have given up.:( 

[Jeanne222]

Perhaps if we could whisper in Cody's ear...  TELL THEM!!   "Your not the only one!  Paul has final two deals with all of you"!

I donno.  It would probably fall on deaf ears.  Paul surely is a wizard!!!

[Artsda]

Nothing Cody says at this point will make them turn on Paul,  he's there cult leader.

[Skycatcher]

26 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Somebody PLEASE make a move this week!!!    When is Zingbot due for a wakeup call?   I donno the more I think about it I think this ship has sunk!

Is it possible that this season BB has jumped the shark? The casting has gotten weaker and weaker over the past few years. Next season they'll probably cast 15 people who lay in bed or eat all day and one vet to win. Oh, wait.........

Edited August 15, 2017 by Skycatcher

[Lady Calypso]

12 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Perhaps if we could whisper in Cody's ear...  TELL THEM!!   "Your not the only one!  Paul has final two deals with all of you"!

I donno.  It would probably fall on deaf ears.  Paul surely is a wizard!!!

They'd 100% run and tell Paul, who would command his dogs to laugh at the idea. 

Alex already ran back to Paul after Cody's attempt to wake them up about Paul being their leader. Another reason why I don't think Alex is really playing a long con against Paul to get him out. 

[Skycatcher]

11 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Nothing Cody says at this point will make them turn on Paul,  he's there cult leader.

Lol - Does that mean they have a  deprogrammer available when they get out of this? Or will Dr Will just slap 'em all uppa side the head in his jury talk?  I might even pay to see that. 

[Katesus7]

45 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Ok I read the last couple of pages and here is what I'm thinking.  If Elena and Mark would stop being so scared of Paul and form a strong three person alliance I think a couple of the floaters that know they are bottom of the barrel might join up. 

There aren't any floaters that know they are bottom of the barrel.  They all think they're in a final five/final three/final two situation.  All of which involve Paul.  Because these people are idiots. 

[gunderda]

1 hour ago, wings707 said:

Christmas is getting a boot next week so by the time F3 rolls around she may very well be able to do endurance; it could be a swinging chair comp or one not dependent on standing.  

I once felt bad for her and wanted to see her compete.  Now I hope she sits her ass out during every "physical" type comp and is never able to HOH. 

Cody's only hope is if he could find something to go to Paul with.... someone betraying paul. But even if veto ceremony wasn't already done, there is absolutely NOTHING he could use with Paul to get Paul to turn on someone else.  Every single person in that stupid house is so far up Paul's ass.

[Cutty]

I like Mark but he should have cut loose from Elena weeks ago. She's treated him like trash for most of the season. 

[Mischievious]

If I could have anything I wanted, I would want the next HOH comp to be endurance ... hosted by Zingbot. That may be the only way to get this people to understand simple things. Also? I'm kind of crushing on Mark. I don't like that. 

[Wings]

15 minutes ago, Katesus7 said:

There aren't any floaters that know they are bottom of the barrel.  They all think they're in a final five/final three/final two situation.  All of which involve Paul.  Because these people are idiots. 

Alex knows she is his F2.   Matt and Raven are sure they are F3.  Christmas feels she is his number one alliance member and going to F3 with Paul and Josh.  

Kevin is shaky and so is Jason (a little).  Mark and Elena know they are not in a good place.  

There is a possibility here that no one will see and even if they do, will not act on it. 

The only hope for change is for Cody to talk more with Alex, Jason and include Kevin.  This is what Cody would like but I am not sure he cares enough.   If he gets fired up about doing it for Jess, he might.  It is tricky in that house to have a private conversation with Cody without being marked for a hit. 

The only time is when Paul is in the DR and Christmas is downstairs.  It is difficult for her to negotiate the stairs. 

Remember I am on my positive morning parade.  And I have hot dogs!  

Edited August 15, 2017 by wings707

[Callaphera]

In previous seasons, while enjoying my morning cup(s) of coffee - don't judge, I like my caffeine - I used to rush off to Jokers or Sucks and refresh the page I had left up the night before and I would catch up on all of the shenanigans that happened and have a pleasant morning. 

This season, while enjoying my morning cup(s) of coffee - still with the no judging, please - I now refresh those pages and scroll right to the most current content because I know exactly what happened. Paul was a blowhard dick, Christmas as a judgmental bitch, Mark/Cody/whoever is the current target was shit on all night by everyone else, Raven claims she was born with her hands for feet and feet for hands (so fucking brave!), blah blah blah. Doesn't make for a pleasant morning.

I still love my show. I love the game. But these people are making it really hard to find much enjoyment this season. What do I have to look forward to, when Paul finally decides that Alex is the week's target? When Raven finally drops dead in the backyard? 

At least BB15 HGs, with all their vileness, had personalities that were engaging, whether you loved or hated them. I can't say the same for this current crop of HGs.

(Yeah, I know. This post is essentially a repeat. Sorry about that.)

[Wings]

@Callaphera. come sit beside me and I will tell you that another wish for DR to step in to open some eyes will help get your though your morning pot of coffee.  That is what I do.  It is time they talk to Alex and Jason.  If I hear them called I will think maybe, just maybe.  

[Vixenstud]

9 minutes ago, Cutty said:

I like Mark but he should have cut loose from Elena weeks ago. She's treated him like trash for most of the season. 

THIS, and precisely why I can’t stand her fat ass.  She cock teases him every chance she gets and what’s worse is the fact that she is an even bigger flip-flopper than Mark!!  I saw the Youtube of her comforting him after Pillow-gate and wondered why in the bluedilly fuck didn’t she take up for him whilst it was happening?!  Fuck a game, a human being is being publicly humiliated in front of you, WOMAN UP AND TAKE A STAND!!

I refused to watch Pillow-gate ‘cause I get the feeling I’d be buying a ticket to Cali, finding the BB house and yelling ‘BULLIES!’ using a bullhorn every goddamned chance I could!! 

Like I need air to breathe, I need for Mark to win HOH in DE and hope that he puts up Paul/Alex with a fucking meth-headed Christmas back door. 

[Wings]

Cody needs to talk to Elena.  Snap out of it, Elena.  That should not be difficult since she is already pegged as subversive.  She needs to stick with Mark no matter how repulsed she may be by him. I liked her at first and had hope for her doing something good, she is smart but not using her brain.  Her emotions have taken over.  She is haughty with no kindness evident. 

[Lady Calypso]

Oh...so apparently, feeds will be down from Thursday until Friday night for their very special episode.

Unless the episode is another Battleback where Cody competes against second evicted for DE (in my dreams, Josh) to return to the house one more, I don't know why the feeds being down is necessary, especially if it's just another stupid concert.

[SiobhanJW]

Just now, Lady Calypso said:

Oh...so apparently, feeds will be down from Thursday until Friday night for their very special episode.

Unless the episode is another Battleback where Cody competes against second evicted for DE (in my dreams, Josh) to return to the house one more, I don't know why the feeds being down is necessary, especially if it's just another stupid concert.

This is such bullcrap- feeds after a DE are some of the most interesting. Honestly I'm so fed up with how they have done this season. Unbelievable. 

[Sandycat]

So, Cody doesn't say anything to the clowns in the kitchen and they talk crap about that saying he could talk to,them, but they get on anyone who talks to Cody. Unreal

[Callaphera]

10 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Oh...so apparently, feeds will be down from Thursday until Friday night for their very special episode.

Unless the episode is another Battleback where Cody competes against second evicted for DE (in my dreams, Josh) to return to the house one more, I don't know why the feeds being down is necessary, especially if it's just another stupid concert.

I feel like this is what happened last time (and we got the added hilarity of them editing Paulie out of every shot of the carnival games and Ziggy Marley concert because it happened before his eviction but aired after - oh, look, there's Paulie's hand!) but really, it just puts the cherry on the shit sundae that this week has already been.

 

25 minutes ago, wings707 said:

@Callaphera. come sit beside me and I will tell you that another wish for DR to step in to open some eyes will help get your though your morning pot of coffee.  That is what I do.  It is time they talk to Alex and Jason.  If I hear them called I will think maybe, just maybe.  

We'll put up our feet up on the deck railing and drink our coffee together but I'm too much of a realist to believe that the DR can actually pull it off (and as usual, as a game purist if there is such a thing, I'd prefer production to have a light hand in the entire game). It's like watching people get pulled into Scientology or something. You know they're never coming back without some serious deprogramming. Where's Leah Remini when you need her?

Edited August 15, 2017 by Callaphera

[Nashville]

On 8/15/2017 at 8:06 AM, Cutty said:

I don't know if Paul is actually good at BB or his personality just fits the game well. Probably a little of both. There's no denying he is a very effective player, and is currently playing a virtually flawless game. He's just a shitbag and annoying as hell to watch.

Paul fits one of the BB game style archetypes well: the Demonize Your Opponent model (also known as "What Shit Will Stick This Week?", or the Amanda Zuckerman Memorial model).  

The one thing Paul is good at?  Convincing this bunch of numbskulls he's willing to spend all summer in this House with no realistic expectation of winning, so good ol' Paul is just here to help mentor y'all through the process.  Of course, their being so incredibly incredibly STUPID as to actually BUY this load of horseshit doesn't hurt.  :P

 

On 8/15/2017 at 8:34 AM, Brian Cronin said:

I think he played a basic Floater's game, but then made a much bigger move than floaters normally make when he flipped the house towards the end to get rid of Amanda. That makes me put him slightly ahead of the other people in Tier 4, who all mostly floated to the end (which is a fair enough strategy). But oh yeah, I did not like him at all. I didn't like ANY of the possible winners in that season. I mean, can you imagine if Gina freakin' Marie had won?!

One thing for sure - GM's acceptance speech would've been EPIC.  :D

 

On 8/15/2017 at 9:21 AM, peachmangosteen said:

Oh, he was always an arrogant asshole, he just happened to be an underdog for much of last season, which helps hide that kind of thing a bit. He definitely showed it a lot even last season though. He has so much power this season so he doesn't ever have to hide it. Plus he isn't doing anything remotely fun this season like he did last season because, again, he doesn't have to since he has the entire house in his pocket due to all the advantages he was given.

Cody's face!

 

On 8/15/2017 at 9:40 AM, urusai said:

Here ya go, wings.  

See, these two posts are where P.tv falls down on the job - because a "Like" is entirely inadequate.  :)

 

On 8/15/2017 at 9:42 AM, Brian Cronin said:

Not if Alex or Jason wins veto and takes Alex down. Then she stays and Paul stays against whoever else is put up against him.  

I was thinking about this earlier; even if Paul manages to evade eviction, there's still the Paulettes.  Put up Paul/Alex, with Christmas as replacement nom - or, if Christmas is the PoV winner, Josh.  At the very least you take out at least one of Paul's numbers, if not Paul himself.

 

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While I would just generally love to see Mark win HOH for obvious reasons, I would also just love to see the whole "How dare you betray me, Mark?" from Paul. 

"Just a game, bro."  :D

 

On 8/15/2017 at 9:53 AM, missyb said:

Hoping for a Mark and Elena DE win. 

One problem with this: Elena or, more specifically, Elena's demonstrated inability to compete effectively in anything other than an endurance comp.  Because whatever comps TPTB plan to run for the DE HoHs, the one thing you can bet on is that due to time constraints, at least one of them will absolutely positively NOT be endurance.

Edited August 16, 2017 by Nashville
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[flipflopdiva]

1 hour ago, Skycatcher said:

1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

Somebody PLEASE make a move this week!!!    When is Zingbot due for a wakeup call?   I donno the more I think about it I think this ship has sunk!

Is it possible that this season BB has jumped the shark? The casting has gotten weaker and weaker over the past few years. Next season they'll probably cast 15 people who lay in bed or eat all day and one vet to win. Oh, wait.........

Unpopular opinion, but I actually think the broadcast shows so far this season have been really good. (One of my favorite things about BB is watching the live feeds and watching the broadcast shows and seeing what they choose to include and not include. Maybe because I'm a writer/editor for a living but that part of it I just find fascinating.) And so far, the one thing this cast has is a lot of drama. Most of it unnecessary and horrible and uncomfortable and awful to watch when it's happening live, but in short bursts on the broadcast episodes, it's been entertaining. 

For live feeds watchers, though, urghh, yes, it's beyond horrible. I work from home so I have the feeds on in the background most of the day, but I've actually had to switch back to watching a million episodes of House Hunters some days because I can't listen to Paul anymore and it's super frustrating to know that nothing is going to change when all I really want is for something to change and for someone to wake up and decide that they, too, want to win. (I just don't get coming on a show like this and not wanting to win. Even when I was 20-something and didn't have a job I would have had to give up. And I'm not even super competitive, but what is the point if you don't even try to win??)

I wish Cody was staying because I actually like watching Alex and Jason when they're talking to him. I know Alex said she's being 'fake' when they're talking with him, but I would take that fake side over her real side any hour of the day. She's actually tolerable and kind of fun. And also she seems more insightful then too.

I'm not actually sure what I'm rooting for after Thursday when Cody leaves. I guess just to see the fallout when one by one Paul's minions realize they weren't his Chosen One after all. Or maybe someone to surprise me and do something awesome, although the chances of that seem less than zero at this point.

[LoveLeigh]

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

Yeah, they really need Zingbot to wake some of these HG up. I'm sure everyone will laugh at whatever Zingbot says but someting will be said to make one of them think, right? Who am I kidding! These people are dumb as rocks. They'll all probably cheer the loudest what Zingbot says to Paul. 'Oh Paul, you got the greatest zing ever! You're the greatest". Oh, brother!!!!

I have said this before. These are idiots that need it spelled out. It is way more than just allowing Paul to run the game or calling them "groupies," they are carrying HIM to f2 instead of playing to win for themselves. 

They need to be clearly asked: "Are you here to win or are you here to make sure Paul wins?" At this point they have so much blind loyalty that if Paul is in the final 3, any of the two others would pick him to sit next to in a f2 and gladly lose to him. 

I fully expect either Raven or Paul to win and my only consolation will be if Cody wins fan favorite and they are later bombarded on social media by fans and others like Janelle and Rachel who call them fools. 

Paul already comes from a rich family so his win will not be life changing for him. If Raven wins, I will be as angry as the year Maggie won. 

[Wings]

Just now, Callaphera said:

We'll put up our feet on the deck railing and drink our coffee together but I'm too much of a realist to believe that the DR can actually pull it off (and as usual, as a game purist if there is such a thing, I'd prefer production to have a light hand in the entire game). It's like watching people get pulled into Scientology or something. You know they're never coming back without some serious deprogramming. Where's Leah Remini when you need her?

Not saying I don't agree.  I just live in perpetual hope.  LOL@ needing Leah!  

 

The feed ticker says they will be down for longer than usual later in the week.  Since we usually see the second HOH comp in a DE I want to believe they will tape the back yard concert on Friday morning to show that night and do the set up after the HOH comp completes. 

Or they will have it on Wednesday so no feeds tomorrow.  

[LoveLeigh]

6 minutes ago, flipflopdiva said:

I'm not actually sure what I'm rooting for after Thursday when Cody leaves. I guess just to see the fallout when one by one Paul's minions realize they weren't his Chosen One after all. Or maybe someone to surprise me and do something awesome, although the chances of that seem less than zero at this point.

Evictions will be Cody, Mark, and then Elena and then Kevin.... and THEN the fun will begin when they all are forced to turn on each other if they want to win and not carry Paul to f2. 

[Michichick]

19 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Oh...so apparently, feeds will be down from Thursday until Friday night for their very special episode.

Unless the episode is another Battleback where Cody competes against second evicted for DE (in my dreams, Josh) to return to the house one more, I don't know why the feeds being down is necessary, especially if it's just another stupid concert.

To quote Josh's catchphrase: "what the fuck?"

i am beyond aggravated that the feeds will be down, since I doubt the special episode will be worth watching.

[LGGirl]

My dream scenario: Cody and Mark go Rambo on the group prior to Thursday.  Cody goes after Paul, Mark takes out Josh.  Why not?  They have nothing to lose.   Nothing would give me more pleasure than Paul and Josh getting the crap beat out of them.  And you know everyone else will just watch with exception of Kevin.  Cody can take of him after Paul.  ?

And I would love to see a tie for AFP.   Cody and Jess.  Priceless.

Note to Kevin's son: not all members of the Mafia are Italian.  

Edited August 15, 2017 by LGGirl

[Michichick]

12 minutes ago, Sandycat said:

So, Cody doesn't say anything to the clowns in the kitchen and they talk crap about that saying he could talk to,them, but they get on anyone who talks to Cody. Unreal

They are all assholes.

[Callaphera]

9 minutes ago, Nashville said:

I was thinking about this earlier; even if Paul manages to evade eviction, there's still the Paulettes.  Put up Paul/Alex, with Christmas as replacement nom - or, if Christmas is the PoV winner, Josh.  At the very least you take out at least one of Paul's numbers, if not Paul himself.

But even if you take out a number from Paul's multiple harems (because that's what they are), he just shifts over to the one that has more numbers. He's set himself up so cleverly this season that they would literally have to chip away one from this group, one from that group, one from this group, one from that group and he's still left with people baby powdering his ass when he complains of a little chafing. He's in such a good position that it's almost disgusting.

 

6 minutes ago, DakotaLavender said:

Paul already comes from a rich family so his win will not be life changing for him.

I don't think how much money a HG has (or doesn't, as Elena keeps whining about) really matters. Oh, it's used as gameplay no doubt but it really shouldn't factor into a "who deserves to win" question. The person who deserve to win is the person who has played the best game, imo. And sadly, that's Paul.

 

6 minutes ago, DakotaLavender said:

Evictions will be Cody, Mark, and then Elena and then Kevin.... and THEN the fun will begin when they all are forced to turn on each other if they want to win and not carry Paul to f2. 

Normally I love the game when it gets to the "eat your own" portion but really, Paul's going to have an order and he's going to execute that order as skillfully as he has executed all the ones that came before that and I don't think it'll be as fun as we're hoping. 

God, I'm such a downer this morning. I'm gonna go hit up the coffee pot one more time and see if it helps. A slug of homemade kahlua in my coffee might make a difference.

[Wings]

Sigh.  Alex and Jason trashing Cody.  They think he is fake nice. 

19 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Normally I love the game when it gets to the "eat your own" portion but really, Paul's going to have an order and he's going to execute that order as skillfully as he has executed all the ones that came before that and I don't think it'll be as fun as we're hoping. 

Yeah.  Paul will just order the next mark all the way to the end.  No drama or interest there other than the marked being pissed.  Ho hum. 

There could be a little action if someone sees what is happening and pulls a counter strike in time.  

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Cody talking to himself in hammock is hysterical.  "anyone else think Matt and Raven's fighting is psychotic?"   LOL  he is going on about them. 

Edited August 15, 2017 by wings707

[Michichick]

The only hope I'm left with for this season is to see just one person get evicted that wasn't decreed by Paul. I want to see someone, anyone, win HOH and then NOT nominate whomever Paul demands be nominated.

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, wings707 said:

Cody talking to himself in hammock is hysterical.  "anyone else thing Matt and Raven's fighting is psychotic?"   LOL  he is going on about them. 

Once I get home from work, I'm going back to watch this. It sounds hysterical. Cody's letting loose on every thought he has and I am so here for it. Now, let loose on the actual houseguests, please Cody. 

[Wings]

12 minutes ago, Michichick said:

The only hope I'm left with for this season is to see just one person get evicted that wasn't decreed by Paul. I want to see someone, anyone, win HOH and then NOT nominate whomever Paul demands be nominated.

Awww, sweetie.  I admire you hoping for the impossible.  Wayne Dyer would praise your attitude. 

[Callaphera]

1 minute ago, wings707 said:

Yeah.  Paul will just order the next mark all the way to the end.  No drama or interest there other than the marked being pissed.  Ho hum. 

There could be a little action if someone sees what is happening and pulls a counter strike in time.  

In a way, you have to kind of admire the way he's worked this season. He makes sure before every eviction that the next week's target is set. And he doesn't just make sure there's one. There's always at least two, because if one wins safety/HoH/Veto, he has his backup plan in his pocket. He works up the other HGs into a lather to make sure that his target is the One True Target (and that his backup is the One True Backup).

Cody goes this week, but he's already set up Elena or Mark for next week. He's starting to get them riled up about Kevin. It makes for a predictable boot order (with a few minor changes for the exceptions listed above) which makes it boring for us. But at the same time, Paul is the only one who has put in a real, true effort thus far and is most deserving of the win. There's still time for someone to usurp him but really, who's gonna do it, how are they going to do it without the numbers, and good fucking luck, guys. Y'all basically laid down to die the second Paul came in the house and the ones that didn't are the ones that are leaving quickly and early. 

[Wings]

Cody is saying men should wash their hands before they pee.  They handle money (the worst) and many thing during the day that you don't want transferred.   Yep.  My husband always did after I mentioned this logic decades ago.  

If they tape the party tomorrow that means more bonding time with Cody and the tiny possibility that maybe....

Cody seems to think Jess is only watching the feeds at 9pm and asked someone to tell her that at that time he is usually alone eating a blow of cereal and the camera would not be on him.  She is watching MUCH more than that!  I wish he knew that. 

Edited August 15, 2017 by wings707

[missyb]

I am still amused with how Jason is handling his "extreme" punishment .

Paul received to many advances in the beginning to really make me root for him or believe he is playing the best game. I think Alex is.

If I had seen Paul on the block and then get himself off, maybe then.

ALso, this may be personal. LOL

Edited August 15, 2017 by missyb

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, missyb said:

I am still amused with how Jason is handling his "extreme" punishment .

Paul received to many advances in the beginning to really make me root for him or believe he is playing the best game. I think Alex is.

If I had seen Paul on the block and then get himself off, maybe then.

ALso, this may be personal. LOL

I would actually be most happy with an Alex win at this point. Girl irritates me to no end, but she's a good gameplayer. 

Plus, she shuts up about losing this season and coming back for another season to win. 

[Wings]

11 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

In a way, you have to kind of admire the way he's worked this season. He makes sure before every eviction that the next week's target is set. And he doesn't just make sure there's one. There's always at least two, because if one wins safety/HoH/Veto, he has his backup plan in his pocket. He works up the other HGs into a lather to make sure that his target is the One True Target (and that his backup is the One True Backup).

Cody goes this week, but he's already set up Elena or Mark for next week. He's starting to get them riled up about Kevin. It makes for a predictable boot order (with a few minor changes for the exceptions listed above) which makes it boring for us. But at the same time, Paul is the only one who has put in a real, true effort thus far and is most deserving of the win. There's still time for someone to usurp him but really, who's gonna do it, how are they going to do it without the numbers, and good fucking luck, guys. Y'all basically laid down to die the second Paul came in the house and the ones that didn't are the ones that are leaving quickly and early. 

I do get your point.  I wish I could admire that.  Maybe during the season autopsy. 

[missyb]

Good editorial on why author isn't giving Paul credit for playing a good game:

 

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/big-brother/why-i-refuse-to-give-paul-cred-65726.aspx 

[Lamb18]

I turned on the feeds last night to Christmas haranguing Mark about something, then Josh about sleeping next to Elena and the beds, then Alex screaming at him about pillows and using her normal bed while she's HOH. Then I watched for while he was lying on the bed breathing heavily, trying to figure out just what happened to him. I really felt for him. I think he was ready to self-evict. Those people are so cruel. I just don't know if I can watch the intentional cruelty to another human being. All the fighting & haranguing, those people weren't that upset with him about pillows, etc., they just used those reasons as excuses to target him, harangue him and just grind him down. And this is all real - it's not pretend cruelty that's scripted. They take great joy (Christmas joy!) in just verbally tormenting another human being.

Some other comments:

Except for Cody and maybe Mark, the rest of the house guests are Paul's Kryssies (BBOTT).

Another Comic Book Cover possibility: Picture of Paul holding a bunch of outstretched dog leashes (not showing the dogs), then each hg's cover showing the house guest as a dog on a leash. Cody can be in his Marine dress uniform as an action figure hero.

Cody is the type of man Paul wants to be. I think Paul kind of admires and looks up to him, but I suppose Paul doesn't like feeling like he's no more than an annoying flea on Cody's hide.

[Wings]

14 minutes ago, missyb said:

Good editorial on why author isn't giving Paul credit for playing a good game:

 

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/big-brother/why-i-refuse-to-give-paul-cred-65726.aspx 

Thanks, this is a good article and says a lot of what we have said here with some extras.  Megan knew Paul and Raven knew each other, she showed production some pics and they ignored it, of course.  And how did she know Paul would be on before it even began.  Interesting leak that escaped many.  

Fans of Paul and a cast unfamiliar with the game on top of desires for instagram wealth and there you have it. 

[Callaphera]

1 minute ago, wings707 said:

Thanks, this is a good article and says a lot of what we have said here with some extras.  Megan knew Paul and Raven knew each other, she showed production some pics and they ignored it, of course.  And how did she know Paul would be on before it even began.  Interesting leak that escaped many.  

Fans of Paul and a cast unfamiliar with the game on top of desires for instagram wealth and there you have it. 

Not really. We speculated about it early on here and I saw the same speculation elsewhere. He disappeared from social media and canceled appearances before the start of the show. That's one of the best times for alumni to make money. If he's turning his back on those offers, there's usually a reason and it has a $500K prize attached to it.

[Wings]

Just now, Callaphera said:

Not really. We speculated about it early on here and I saw the same speculation elsewhere. He disappeared from social media and canceled appearances before the start of the show. That's one of the best times for alumni to make money. If he's turning his back on those offers, there's usually a reason and it has a $500K prize attached to it.

I missed that.  Thanks.