S09.E07: Bidding on Love

[LIMOM]

The returning of the gift seems to be a recurring theme this year, on the real housewives.

First, there was the bunny and now the power tools.

Whatever happened to regifting for chrissake???

[zoeysmom]

21 minutes ago, LIMOM said:

The returning of the gift seems to be a recurring theme this year, on the real housewives.

First, there was the bunny and now the power tools.

Whatever happened to regifting for chrissake???

Luann and Tom's wedding did not have gifts-two charities were named March of Dimes and a charity that supports the homeless.  So regifting would be difficult.  Maybe if Blabs wins big against those she has threatened to sue over airing her backstabbing comments, she can make another donation.

How strange for this blabbermouth to be more concerned about how her comments affected her and not Luann and Tom.

[ButterQueen]

These women need to STFU about Lu's marriage.  Lu is holding her own just fine, but I am sick of it.

Ramona looks so bad with her plastic surgery and huge boobs.  She looks to have aged 20 years since season 3 when we all enjoyed Scary Island.  The big boobs make her look heavy.

Sonja looked better than Tinsley at the bar.  Tinsley wears those heavy dark false eyelashes, while Sonja looked adorable with her white ruffle blouse....featuring side boob.  She looks 15 years younger than Ramona.  I will say that I didn't know you couldn't wear certain sunglasses after a certain age.  Avery, please!  Your momma looked fine in the glasses too.

I'm in the minority, but I think Beth looks good, hair included.  Her boyfriend though....not feeling it.  My husband is older than him, has silver hair and is so much better looking.  With all her money, Beth needs to be careful who she gets involved with.  I like her ex Jason and wish they would have worked it out or at least weren't at war.  It's all so silly.

[motorcitymom65]

2 hours ago, jaync said:

It made me wonder about the sales of SG, given Beth's irrational anger over something that would have no impact on her own product.

Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't matter. Legally, the responsibly is on Beth to make sure she is protecting her trademark. If someone were to go to far she could be in legal jeopardy if shown that she hadn't done what was necessary to protect it. That is just the way of the world. You would not believe the huge quantity of C&D orders that go out every day by companies (some of them big-time companies) to start ups and others that they think might be infringing on their TM. I have been involved in many of these and trust me, you would not believe it. I have on occasion rolled my eyes, but one slip up can cost a company. 

Regarding how well SG is doing, hard to say. I will say that the recent deal she inked with Smithfield Meats is considered pretty huge in the industry. They are a big fucking deal and there are a lot of people who would kill to work with them. She did this deal since she has been back on the show, so someone somewhere must think her brand has big potential and aren't turned off by her personality or the show. 

Edited May 22, 2017 by motorcitymom65

[diadochokinesis]

On 5/22/2017 at 1:49 AM, Trooper York said:

Facts are indeed facts. The fact there is not one woman that any single guy in his right mind would want to be involved with in any way. On other shows there is at least one sympathetic character that you could see hanging out with. Atlanta has Cynthia. Beverly Hills has Kyle and Eileen. Jersey has Kathy. Even Orange County had Lydia and Alexis. Who can you point to on this show? Ramona? Bethenny? Dorinda? Carole the Crypt Keeper?

They had those women in Kristen and Heather and they got rid of them. New York is the home base of dysfunctional. 

Maybe Tinsley can break the cycle. Lets hope.

Those aren't facts.  Those are opinions.  It is your opinion that no single guy would want to be involved with these women. 

On 5/22/2017 at 2:04 AM, BBHN said:

Alexis was pretty before she got the work done.

Why watch something that would leave a bad taste in one's mouth? I still enjoy this show, even with all the faults the women have. I do enjoy watching them all, even Luann. If anything, this is probably the only HW show where I don't actively hate at least one of the HWs.

Is it bad that I can think of a housewife on every show that I actively can't stand?  I wouldn't say hate just because it is a very strong word (to me) that I save for special people.  LOL. 

[BckpckFullaNinjas]

Luann has never presented herself as a virginal violet with high-minded ideals about co!tus. She graduated nursing college and went on a whirlwind tour of Europe with a variety of friends after the ennui of working in Connecticut for awhile. She'd lived with one rich fellow for two years (IIRC) and eloped with the Count, leaving a note (again, IIRC) for her jiltee.

When she (allegedly) called TD after BF showed her the photo, her concern was that he'd been public about the kissy face, not that he'd done it.

My point: she's played/playing the fidelity SL for all it's worth, but at the end of the day, she'll accept his peccadilloes - sexual or otherwise - as long as he doesn't embarrass nor bankrupt nor physically harm her (or her kids), and as long as he keeps his promises to provide, share, and support her in her social life, etc., per their agreement.

People get married all the time to partners they know to be deeply flawed.  In many cases, they've  just decided that those flaws are worth the positive things the marriage brings, and many such marriages last til death do 'em part!

Some songwriter said it along these lines: "faithful to you, darlin', in my fashion!" Lots of people live that way. 

[LIMOM]

10 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't matter. Legally, the responsibly is on Beth to make sure she is protecting her trademark. If someone were to go to far she could be in legal jeopardy if shown that she hadn't done what was necessary to protect it. That is just the way of the world. You would not believe the huge quantity of C&D orders that go out every day by companies (some of them big-time companies) to start ups and others that they think might be infringing on their TM. I have been involved in many of these and trust me, you would not believe it. I have on occasion rolled my eyes, but one slip up can cost a company. 

Regarding how well SG is doing, hard to say. I will say that the recent deal she inked with Smithfield Meats is considered pretty huge in the industry. They are a big fucking deal and there are a lot of people who would kill to work with them. She did this deal since she has been back on the show, so someone somewhere must think her brand has big potential and aren't turned off by her personality or the show. 

What is she going to do?

Skinny girl deli meat?

I see her protein bars all over as well.

Her brand still has legs, imo.

[motorcitymom65]

3 hours ago, LIMOM said:

What is she going to do?

Skinny girl deli meat?

I see her protein bars all over as well.

Her brand still has legs, imo.

Yep, she is doing SG deli meat. 

https://skinnygirllunchmeat.com/

Edited May 23, 2017 by motorcitymom65

[KungFuBunny]

3 hours ago, LIMOM said:

What is she going to do?

Skinny girl deli meat?

I see her protein bars all over as well.

Her brand still has legs, imo.

I posted an interview with Bethenny over on First Looks..she talks about this episode scene with Be Strong/Dress For Success & partnering with Smithfield for SKG Deli Meat

[ButterQueen]

15 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't matter. Legally, the responsibly is on Beth to make sure she is protecting her trademark. If someone were to go to far she could be in legal jeopardy if shown that she hadn't done what was necessary to protect it. That is just the way of the world. You would not believe the huge quantity of C&D orders that go out every day by companies (some of them big-time companies) to start ups and others that they think might be infringing on their TM. I have been involved in many of these and trust me, you would not believe it. I have on occasion rolled my eyes, but one slip up can cost a company. 

Regarding how well SG is doing, hard to say. I will say that the recent deal she inked with Smithfield Meats is considered pretty huge in the industry. They are a big fucking deal and there are a lot of people who would kill to work with them. She did this deal since she has been back on the show, so someone somewhere must think her brand has big potential and aren't turned off by her personality or the show. 

I'm still seeing Skinny Girl in stores, and I live in a very small town.

[ButterQueen]

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   ON 5/21/2017 AT 5:49 PM,  TROOPER YORK SAID: 

Facts are indeed facts. The fact there is not one woman that any single guy in his right mind would want to be involved with in any way. On other shows there is at least one sympathetic character that you could see hanging out with. Atlanta has Cynthia. Beverly Hills has Kyle and Eileen. Jersey has Kathy. Even Orange County had Lydia and Alexis. Who can you point to on this show? Ramona? Bethenny? Dorinda? Carole the Crypt Keeper?

They had those women in Kristen and Heather and they got rid of them. New York is the home base of dysfunctional. 

Maybe Tinsley can break the cycle. Lets hope.

Oh please!  There are men ten times more annoying and unattractive than the NY ladies.....hell, any RH for that matter.  That's just a man's ego talking.

[Mozelle]

23 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

I wanna like John too.  I don't exactly dislike him.  It's just.  He sucks at reading the room.  The squirting orgasm thing is a perfect example.  I hate to sound all flotus following the pussy grabbing tape, but it is how men talk when they're alone, but you still need the sort of rapport and camaraderie with the men in question for it to be appreciated.  The problem wasn't even that he said it with women present, there ain't a delicate flower in this crew, but damn dawg, time and a place.  Later when everybody's three sheets to the wind and the lights are low, ok bring out your porn humor, if you must.    And because I can't emphasize this enough, he is too physically familiar with women he doesn't know well, or at all.   The idea that you can behave with a woman the way your woman/her friend interacts with her is hella bizarre.  At best we're talking about a tangential relationship.    I attended a college friend's wedding.   My college roommate and her sister (and her sister's husband) were also in attendance.   I knew these people well of course, they'd been to our place many times over the years.  Similarly, I'd been to their home.   I'm standing in the reception hall looking for our table and my roommate's brother in law comes up behind me and fixes the shoulder strap on my dress.   It wasn't like a spaghetti loop you just pick up, he hooked his thumb under and pulled it into place over my bra strap.  Not assault, not a violation, didn't even make contact with my skin.  But, inafuckingpropriate.  That's really the only reason I can't with John.  I was about to say plenty of men are crass, but cancel that.  I just remembered that he's almost 50 and unhesitatingly used the word moist to entertain. 

But then, how would we know about any examples if not from scenes shown?   I dunno, I think Bobby, Jonathan and Reid were shown to be extremely supportive.  I remember seeing Simon cook breakfast in their brownstone and Jonathan listen to Heather's fears about their son's condition.  I think I may even be remembering seeing Mario walk Avery down the street as she walked their dog (?)  Anyway I think I know what you're saying but I'd be a little miffed if the men got kadooz or any special acknowledgment for doing stuff their wives also did everyday without mention.   Maybe Bravo's challenge might be that as nice as it would be (should be) to see them in a positive light, it's not a ratings grabber, nor mutually exclusive.  Some of the same men are great dads and awful husbands. 

All of what you say in this post is spot on. John has a problem reading the room, and he is way too damn familiar with women he's either just met or with whom he may know socially. I still remember when he was dancing with Kristen and how Kristen ended up getting raked over the coals because she didn't immediately bolt away from his grabby hands. 

As for the statement in bold, that was all I was thinking about as the virtue of these men were being sung.

"Oh, the dads on this show fix their kids a sandwich then take them out to play ball then help them with homework."

Me: Isn't that what a parent is supposed to do? 

Because studies have shown that even in two-parent, heterosexual households, it's most often the mom who picks up way more slack (whether she's a stay-at-home mom or a mom who works outside the home). 

[Martinigirl]

1 hour ago, ButterQueen said:

Oh please!  There are men ten times more annoying and unattractive than the NY ladies.....hell, any RH for that matter.  That's just a man's ego talking.

Maybe Sonja can hook them up with her vaginal rejuvenation Doctor. 

[jaync]

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Legally, the responsibly is on Beth to make sure she is protecting her trademark.

She has no trademark on "girl" nor prosecco. Her OTT reaction just underlined her own insecurities and assholeness, IMO.

[Martinigirl]

There is the Trademark Dilution Act. I don't think she's being an asshole or insecure. Bethenny is simply protecting her brand.

Edited May 23, 2017 by Martinigirl

[SCS]

On May 22, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Leroux said:

 

We like in a world were the "I am offended by......" has almost because the cool and hipster way to be. People go out of their ways looking for reasons to be offended. 

In my case I only get offended by other people pretending to get offended, but that is just me.  

 

No idea if Beth made the remark (I can see her saying it but, yeah, proof?) but the part quoted above? Commenty gold, LOL. ?

[BBHN]

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Bethenny is simply protecting her brand.

As well she should.

[SCS]

20 hours ago, LIMOM said:

The returning of the gift seems to be a recurring theme this year, on the real housewives.

First, there was the bunny and now the power tools.

Whatever happened to regifting for chrissake???

 

Sonja can put 'em together and market the result as her newest live-your-best-life product:

~To the masses version: plastic, $29.95, made by out-of-work Nigerian footballers

~To the classes version: mouth-blown glass, $1100.00 made by well-trained UES interns

[motorcitymom65]

49 minutes ago, jaync said:

She has no trademark on "girl" nor prosecco. Her OTT reaction just underlined her own insecurities and assholeness, IMO.

Or maybe she is just a really good business woman. 

One thing I have learned in my years in the business, never ever underestimate the stupidity of the buying public. TM infringement is larglely about the idea that the public can be confused by a product that is similar to another. And confused they often are. By things that are often baffling. My husband is constantly amazed when I share incredible stories of the complaints and comments we get from the public about things that confuse them and therefore make them angry. Very angry. 

[ZaldamoWilder]

10 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Or maybe she is just a really good business woman. 

One thing I have learned in my years in the business, never ever underestimate the stupidity of the buying public. TM infringement is larglely about the idea that the public can be confused by a product that is similar to another. And confused they often are. By things that are often baffling. My husband is constantly amazed when I share incredible stories of the complaints and comments we get from the public about things that confuse them and therefore make them angry. Very angry. 

Lol I remember us spending I dunno like 10 pages on this at the time.  "it's not like she OWNS the word girl, who is she to tell some other manufacturer not to use it."

1.  True.   2.  She needn't.

Hope the bolded helps

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The most common type of trademark infringement probably occurs when somebody else sells a product or service under a name that in some way resembles a registered trademark, and the products in question are the same or similar to the registered products. For example, somebody might be publishing a website under the same name as a trademarked name of a journal.

The main criterion here is whether the name of the product is confusingly similar to the trademark. If they are, then potential buyers might accidentally buy the wrong product, and that is exactly the kind of situation that trademark law was designed to prevent. Similarity in itself is not sufficient, the trademark holder must prove that there is a chance of confusion.

Determining whether two things are confusingly similar is very complex. The label of the product in question must be compared to the trademark as a whole. Even if certain elements do correspond (for example the same type of graphical symbols are used, and the various elements are arranged in a similar way) the total impression might still be different. And it is the total impression that is important, because consumers will rarely pay attention to details when making a selection of a product.

The starting point should be the average, informed, cautious and attentive ordinary consumer who is confronted with the allegedly infringing product. A comparison is then made of the degree of visible, auditive and comprehensive similarity between the label on the product and the trademark as registered. The appearance of the trademark on the original product is irrelevant. The exclusive rights are granted based on the trademark, and so it is the trademark itself that must be compared against the allegedly infringing product.

Two products are considered similar if the public would be of the opinion that the services or goods in question are of the same company or of economically linked companies. So, for example the public would not normally expect a company that makes photocameras to also sell potatoes. A potato distributor could therefore use the trademark Kodak for his potatoes, without the photo company being able to do anything about it. Of course, the more famous a trademark becomes, the bigger the chance that the public's opinion would change. The trademark Coca Cola for example appears on many different products, ranging from T-shirts to duvets. Given this information, the public would easily think that somebody selling pillows with the Coca Cola trademark on it had something to do with the Coca Cola company. Based on this, the trademark holder can act against such use of his trademark.

Another important question is how distinctive the mark is. The more distinctive a trademark is, the bigger the chance that confusion can occur.

 

Confusingly similar is a key phrase.  In an unsophisticated consumer market, confusing is not a high bar (padum bum).  She needs to go to court anytime a new alcoholic product comes on the market titled ________ girl.  It's not that she's the first to have thought of it, she was the first to get an approved trademark for the name and associated image. 

 

3 hours ago, Martinigirl said:

Maybe Sonja can hook them up with her vaginal rejuvenation Doctor. 

Hell, I can do that, he's my doc.  Answer to your thought bubble is no but for the supposed benefits, I'd give it a try lol.

[QuinnM]

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It's not that she's the first to have thought of it, she was the first to get an approved trademark for the name and associated image. 

During the bruhaha with Sonja, Bethenny mentioned that you can't trademark Skinny Girl or Tipsy Girl.  But you can trademark SkinnyGirl and TipsyGirl.  So that's what she did.  She trademark TipsyGirl.  That gives her more sway in court.  I would like to say that Sonja's partners are really stupid if they were messing around with this for a year and hadn't bothered to trademark it.

[Leroux]

2 hours ago, steelcitysister said:

 

No idea if Beth made the remark (I can see her saying it but, yeah, proof?) but the part quoted above? Commenty gold, LOL. ?

 

LOL, didn't mean for it to sound uncaring. I just don't just much patience for this kind of crap. 

[KungFuBunny]

3 hours ago, Martinigirl said:

There is the Trademark Dilution Act. I don't think she's being an asshole or insecure. Bethenny is simply protecting her brand.

Let's not forget Sonya's Trademark Delusional Act.

Many years ago when a Toys R Us store existed a Babies R Us would pop up within the same mall. The lettering, colors, & logo with the reverse R were similar. They were not owned by the same company. Consumers thought they were owned by the same parent company. Toys R Us sued Babies R Us and won. Babies R Us lost so badly that they ended up going bankrupt which Toys R Us then bought.

Sonya invited Bethenny to the party where she was going to introduce Tipsy Girl without telling her anything beforehand. The implied public association – this is what pissed Bethenny off. In the prior year, Bethenny invited Sonja to her SKG Summit. People who don’t know much about SKG or the HW franchise could assume that SKG mentored or partner approved Tipsy Girl. Anyone remember how Sonya kept saying I invited Bethenny to my party where is she? She didn’t say she wasn’t coming. Sonja KNEW, she wanted the public to think the possible association was there. Sonja KNEW, press would more likely cover the story if Bethenny was around.

They are still using Bethenny Frankel/SKG in their press. The Tipsy Girl restaurant never opened, they imply that Bethenny drove them out, but the key information out there is that they couldn’t get a liquor license – which is pretty funny if the main item you’re hocking is an alcoholic beverage. They are supposed to open in Hartford, CT – I don’t think this place will ever open either but you can go on their facebook page.

[Trooper York]

6 hours ago, Mozelle said:

As for the statement in bold, that was all I was thinking about as the virtue of these men were being sung.

"Oh, the dads on this show fix their kids a sandwich then take them out to play ball then help them with homework."

Me: Isn't that what a parent is supposed to do? 

Because studies have shown that even in two-parent, heterosexual households, it's most often the mom who picks up way more slack (whether she's a stay-at-home mom or a mom who works outside the home). 

It wasn't a matter of singing the virtues of men doing what they are supposed to do. It was push back on the man bashing that it is rai·sons d'être of the Housewives mileau. I gave Mario's care for his daughter while his selfish pig of a entitled wife slept as an example of something that never made it to air. It is just something to hold in counterweight to the man bashing that is part and parcel of every episode. Sure some the guys do stupid things. But it shouldn't be about them. It should be about the stupid things the housewives do. That's the name of the show after all.

[BBHN]

Both the HWs and their husbands/BFs/fuck-buddies are all game for bashing.

Was Ramona sleeping in every morning while Mario took care of Avery?

Edited May 23, 2017 by BBHN

[Trooper York]

Yes. She was proud of that fact. She bragged about it in a monologue once when talking about child care. I just gave it as an example of some good conduct by an all around douche. The balance is just missing in the man bashing.

I am sure that John and Tom do a lot of great stuff. None of which we will ever see. They are really  stupid for participating. Heather's husband did it right. Even he got smacked around when he was about the most innocuous dude you could find.

[Mozelle]

I really don't think that "man bashing" is outsized here. It's a real housewives show; the women get it to a much harder (and cattier) degree week in and week out, season in and season out. 

For every critical comment about a John or a Mario or a Peter or a Mauricio, the women get it exponentially worse. 

[motorcitymom65]

1 hour ago, Trooper York said:

Yes. She was proud of that fact. She bragged about it in a monologue once when talking about child care. I just gave it as an example of some good conduct by an all around douche. The balance is just missing in the man bashing.

I am sure that John and Tom do a lot of great stuff. None of which we will ever see. They are really  stupid for participating. Heather's husband did it right. Even he got smacked around when he was about the most innocuous dude you could find.

True, but they probably all do great stuff - or normal stuff - that we never see. 

I agree that Heather's husband was pretty great, but I don't remember anyone not thinking he was great. But how about Adam, and the way he gets treated by so many that don't like Carole? I never see a lot of folks taking up for this poor heterosexual guy. What is his big sin since he has been on the show? Being young? He is nothing but supportive of Carole, shows up at the stuff he needs to show up for, is nice to everyone on the show, doesn't bad mouth the other HW's or get involved in the drama - even when it involves him - and doesn't lay his hands inappropriately on the other women. He doesn't appear to be a famewhore, because I am sure that if he wanted to be a drama queen he could get all the camera time he wants. He seems to be working to be successful in his chosen field, and FFS even has a not for profit farm where he grows food to help feed the less fortunate. Seriously, if we are going to try and find a white heterosexual guys on this show that seems to get a crappy deal I would nominate Adam way before I would nominate Tom or John. 

[Trooper York]

You know you are right. I have been unfair to Adam. I guess I just don't like milleneals and his slacker veggie boy routine sort of pisses me off. Plus he gets some ricochet hate that bounces off of Carole.

But I agree. He is pretty inoffensive. Bland. Like a vegetable. Soggy broccoli or wilted Kale as opposed to John's slice of roasted pork or Toms promiscuous chicken. 

I will stop making fun of him. 

But just one nit. He is not really heterosexual. With the sex he has with Carole I would classify him as a necrophiliac. 

Edited May 23, 2017 by Trooper York

[motorcitymom65]

12 minutes ago, Trooper York said:

You know you are right. I have been unfair to Adam. I guess I just don't like milleneals and his slacker veggie boy routine sort of pisses me off. Plus he gets some ricochet hate that bounces off of Carole.

But I agree. He is pretty inoffensive. Bland. Like a vegetable. Soggy broccoli or wilted Kale as opposed to John's slice of roasted pork or Toms promiscuous chicken. 

I will stop making fun of him. 

But just one nit. He is not really heterosexual. With the sex he has with Carole I would classify him as a necrophiliac. 

You know Trooper York, except for your last line, I think I might be falling a little in love with you now. 

[Trooper York]

I always lose it at the end.

Luckily the wife puts up with my nonsense.

[Martinigirl]

My opinion of Tom went up a notch with the way he greeted  Bethenny.

John may want to take a few lessons from Tom.

I still think Luann is an idiot for marrying the guy..................

[Mozelle]

I can't stop snickering at "Tom's promiscuous chicken."

[Otherkate]

Adam's okay, but I can't forgive him for that boring Instagram. And I'm a vegetarian!

[BBHN]

Wilted kale, rancid pork, or promiscuous chicken...what an embarrassment of riches this buffet is lol

[KungFuBunny]

3 hours ago, BBHN said:

Wilted kale, rancid pork, or promiscuous chicken...what an embarrassment of riches this buffet is lol

I hope the  "Tommy's Cookies" jar is filled with Chicken condoms. He might be promiscuous but let Luann be safe.

[Martinigirl]

2 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I hope the  "Tommy's Cookies" jar is filled with Chicken condoms. He might be promiscuous but let Luann be safe.

Chicken condoms?! Poor Luann. lolololol

[Martinigirl]

Knucklehead Ramona will be on Andy's Love Connection. That should be entertaining! Sonja's gonna now be jealous of Tinsley, Luann AND Ramona!

[Juliegirlj]

I think Milk Toast accurately describes Adam....

[KungFuBunny]

37 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Knucklehead Ramona will be on Andy's Love Connection. That should be entertaining! Sonja's gonna now be jealous of Tinsley, Luann AND Ramona!

Tinsley is the only "threat" to Sonja's apple.

They both married into old money, NY high society families. Tinsley got the better deal in terms of both the divorce settlement and maintaining a good relationship with the ex.

Tinsley is single, supposedly has more money than Sonja.

Tinsley likes her liquor and flaunting her single status escapades.

So far the other women have welcomed her into the fold.

Tinsley has called Sonja "mommy" more than once.

I predict Ramona will put the nix on all 3 dates she is set up on - she will hate all of their shoes.

Edited May 24, 2017 by KungFuBunny

[robroy]

I'm not sure if Tinsley has more money but I'm all but certain she has less debt.

And I find the whole Bethe protecting her brand shtick humorous since Skinny Girl was pretty close to Skinny Bitch at one point. IIRC Dick Button actually called her Skinny Bitch when she was on his show.

FWIW- I think her brand is beyond her now and would function just fine if she dropped dead tomorrow. The fact that she now shills sliced ham and turkey makers her quip about Alex's logo being to low-brow or whatever all the more humorous. One does need a classy drunk gall on her products to go toe to toe with Carolina Pride or Oscar Meyer...

[MrsPatrickBateman]

I'm watching Twin Peaks and Tinsley really reminds me of Sheryl Lee. 

[KungFuBunny]

2 minutes ago, MrsPatrickBateman said:

I'm watching Twin Peaks and Tinsley really reminds me of Sheryl Lee. 

I totally see the resemblance

Edited May 24, 2017 by KungFuBunny

[ButterQueen]

6 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

I think Milk Toast accurately describes Adam....

I disagree.  I think he's just a quiet guy.  My DH is very quiet in crowds where he doesn't know everyone.  

[Trooper York]

I don't think he is toasted. I think he is baked. 

[bravofan27]

If Tom is such a bad guy, why are Sonja and Ramona so happy to have a connection to him? How bitchy of Carole to say she is a great pretender. Shut up Carole.

[Martinigirl]

That magic cream doesn't look like it  does what it claims.

[jaybird2]

carole's lips are too, too much.  i don't think i like tinsley,  no, that's wrong, i really don't like her

[Martinigirl]

Dirty dog....lol!

I think Luann's to going to picking up more than dog doo

[KungFuBunny]

Beauty For Freedom pic