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Honey, if your legs COULDN'T press 300# you wouldn't be able to get your 400# arse off the toilet. 

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Fast forward five years.  MBFFL was cancelled after Chase and Ryan were filmed kissing and making out during a drunken bar crawl.  Whitney has moved back in with Glen and Babs , has eaten her way to 6

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13 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

There are a lot of reasons that Whitney shouldn’t have a child but a lack of a father in the home isn’t one of them.

Here's my middle of the road opinion - While I wouldn't tell a woman she shouldn't raise a child on her own because I believe women should have the right to do that without judgment, there have been several studies done over many decades that have shown consistently that children raised in two parent households tend to do better in many respects, too many for me to list but which are summed up nicely in this recent Time magazine article:

https://time.com/6317692/u-s-economy-two-parent-families/

So while Whitney herself may not be the best parent, if she were married or had a live-in partner helping her raise the child it might actually help make up for that.

Speaking of that, two good male friends of mine are in marriages with women that aren't the best parents, but their presence at home has made ALL the difference with their now adult children, in ways that amaze me all the time.  And I shudder to think of what their kids might have turned out like if not for that.

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2 hours ago, Dibs said:

But not to worry; I don't think Whit ever really wanted a child.

Well, she did go to all the trouble and expense of having her eggs frozen a few years ago so I don't know about that.  I think she ideally wants to settle down with a man and have his child rather than go the route of an anonymous donor and raising the child on her own.  Hence her recent stepping up of her search for a man on her social media.  I think she might be looking at the anonymous donor as her last resort.

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11 hours ago, Yeah No said:

children raised in two parent households tend to do better in many respects, too many for me to list

Actually, children raised in single-parent households created by choice fare extremely well. Our kids were planned for and wanted, we moved mountains to have them, and we provide financially stable and loving homes. (By “we” I mean the single parent by choice community, of which I am a proud member. And my two teen boys are thriving.)
 

All single parent families are not created equal. You’ll find that the ones that were not formed by choice are the ones with the more negative outcomes. 

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Elizzikra

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On 6/2/2024 at 9:47 AM, Dibs said:

Really?  There's no need or role for a father anymore?  When the mother isn't fit, sometimes the father can be the child's salvation.

 

 

 

Point to where I said “there’s no need or role for a father anymore.”

Right. I didn’t.

My husband was a single father to our daughter for 12 years before I met him. He is a fabulous father and his relationship with our daughter is amazing. He didn’t set out to be a single dad, but it worked when it happened.

My point is that kids do fine with single parents. Not having a second parent in the home isn’t a reason not to have a child.

And yes, there is research to indicate there are benefits to children who grow up in two parent families. A lot of that is economics. Two parent families tend to have greater resources. 

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On 6/3/2024 at 12:16 AM, SDVegas said:

Actually, children raised in single-parent households created by choice fare extremely well. Our kids were planned for and wanted, we moved mountains to have them, and we provide financially stable and loving homes. (By “we” I mean the single parent by choice community, of which I am a proud member. And my two teen boys are thriving.)
 

All single parent families are not created equal. You’ll find that the ones that were not formed by choice are the ones with the more negative outcomes. 

Studies only deal in general tendencies.  Every particular situation is of course different and I'm not in a position to judge anyone's specific situation.  A middle of the road opinion is just that but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be allowable to have one anymore.  All you have to do is point out a general tendency even when it's supported by research and someone will tell you it's not true in every case, especially theirs.  Well of course it's not and there are always going to be shades of gray.  I embrace those shades.  I have known plenty of 2 parent families that were worse than if the couple had gotten divorced and raised the children separately.   But that's not the point when you're dealing in general tendencies.

9 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

And yes, there is research to indicate there are benefits to children who grow up in two parent families. A lot of that is economics. Two parent families tend to have greater resources. 

Yes, that's one of the big factors often cited in these studies and it does offer real advantages.

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On 6/3/2024 at 11:42 PM, Yeah No said:

All you have to do is point out a general tendency even when it's supported by research and someone will tell you it's not true in every case, especially theirs.  Well of course it's not and there are always going to be shades of gray

The general tendency, in fact the overwhelming tendency, of children raised in single-parent households where the parent intended to have the child on their own, is for the children to fare extremely well. 

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On 6/5/2024 at 3:19 AM, SDVegas said:

The general tendency, in fact the overwhelming tendency, of children raised in single-parent households where the parent intended to have the child on their own, is for the children to fare extremely well. 

The evidence I'm talking about comes from studies.  More single mothers are not as educated as married ones and tend to come from lower socio-economic backgrounds which in and of themselves disadvantage children especially when they have to rely on only one parental income.  And it being an intentional thing is arguable as studies done on this were overseas and don't factor in American society.  Note that I am not pushing any kind of socially conservative values agenda (definitely not me), I'm referring to statistics. 

And I know a lot about how being a single mother can disadvantage children - both my parents, although born in the 1920s, were children of divorce, which BTW back then was much less common and socially stigmatized.  Because they grew up during the Great Depression they were poorer than dirt and truly suffered in ways most people today could not even imagine.  Even I was disadvantaged by their disadvantage.  Both of them overcame great odds and did the best they could for me, but I am not going to sugarcoat how their lack of a second parent at home really hurt them and hence me permanently in ways more impactful than just economics.  

I found this article from NPR about a woman that wrote a book on this subject last year interesting.  She too was not pushing any social values agenda but came under fire from those trying to say she was.

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/22/1207322878/single-parent-married-good-for-children-inequality

That article also points out greater societal impacts from single parent households that don't bode well for the future of our society, not the least of which involve the men that father these children.  Women appear to be giving up on men.  Is that a good thing in the big picture for them or for men in general?  Also there is some evidence that many children conceived this way would rather have been brought up by both parents and know their birth fathers.  These are valid questions and issues that I don't think most people who support single parenthood want to think about.  Again, not an ideological thing, just a fact of life thing.

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13 hours ago, Yeah No said:

 

You are misunderstanding my point. All single parents are not created equally. What you are talking about are single parents by circumstance: people who didn’t intend nor want to be single parents. No, their children don’t do as well because those parents are not prepared to parent them alone. They probably do have lower incomes etc. 
 

The relevant point here is, Whitney and others in her situation who choose to have children on their own, are in general, older and more financially stable. Their children are not underprivileged. You can indeed find studies showing data to back this up if you so choose. 

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On 6/6/2024 at 11:43 PM, SDVegas said:

You are misunderstanding my point. All single parents are not created equally. What you are talking about are single parents by circumstance: people who didn’t intend nor want to be single parents. No, their children don’t do as well because those parents are not prepared to parent them alone. They probably do have lower incomes etc. 
 

The relevant point here is, Whitney and others in her situation who choose to have children on their own, are in general, older and more financially stable. Their children are not underprivileged. You can indeed find studies showing data to back this up if you so choose. 

I find what you're saying here to be a bit ironic considering that the discussion here has been focused on Whitney and the prevailing opinion has been that she is not capable of being a good parent whether or not she intentionally has a child on her own without a partner or how much money she has. 

That alone shows that there are arguably more dimensions other than just economic that factor into how well a person fares.  There is also the extra psychological and emotional support that is multiplied in two parent households.  Those things are hard to quantify and compare.  I know my father would have preferred to have a live-in father growing up.  He had a decent relationship with his birth dad but especially after his dad moved to another state he had to look to other father figures to get a certain support he felt he was lacking, such as his grandfather and the father of his best friend.  So there is also the perception of the children to factor in here which I don't know if any study has found a way to accurately assess.  Personally I kind of doubt any has.

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Pi237

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I like the show. It’s not must see tv for me, but I’ll watch. I still have some empathy for Whitney. I think she’s incredibly insecure which fuels a lot of her childish behavior. I do think she’d be the world’s biggest mean girl if she were very thin. As a fellow fatty, I see that chip on her shoulder from miles away. If nothing else, I give her props for still putting herself out there in spite of all the criticism (which she thinks is just because she’s fat, but a great deal of it is because she’s got a mean streak, but thinks she’s the nicest one in the room.)   
 

 I always love the travel porn on these shows. I did get very bored during the Mommy & Daddy years. No offense to them, but Zzzzzzzz.   The show was more fun when it was her, her friends & frenemies.  Guess she drove them alway or the notoriety of tv did. 
 

Not too invested in her love life, but I’ll take it for less Daddy and (sorry) Babs remembrances. 

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14 hours ago, Pi237 said:

I like the show. It’s not must see tv for me, but I’ll watch. I still have some empathy for Whitney. I think she’s incredibly insecure which fuels a lot of her childish behavior. I do think she’d be the world’s biggest mean girl if she were very thin. As a fellow fatty, I see that chip on her shoulder from miles away. If nothing else, I give her props for still putting herself out there in spite of all the criticism (which she thinks is just because she’s fat.

Agree a lot @Pi237. Although I think she, at times, dresses horribly- (the bra tops and leggings to places other than the gym), I do admire how she puts herself out there with confidence. 

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On 6/20/2024 at 6:31 PM, BAForever said:

Hey, I for one, am thrilled.  I confess- I  love trashy, unrealistic reality shows where people do stupid things that I can mock. So Whit, bring on your fabulous life, I'm here for all of it. 

LOL! This show is "grandfathered in" by now as one of my guilty pleasures along with "Sister Wives" for its train wreck value. It's so awful I can't look away.

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6 hours ago, auntjess said:

Oh no, won't this show ever end?  

I was hoping it would be cancelled and maybe those new doctors who were removing growths, would get a show.

Can't belive this crapfest continues.  I'll read here to see what happens.

1. Whit will prance around in inappropriate clothes.

2.Whit will be passive-aggressively nice/mean to friends and family. 

3. Whit will go on a fabulous trip or two.

4. Whit will have no visible employment, but will be all over IG shilling stuff.

Here are my guesses @auntjess.

 

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On 6/22/2024 at 7:16 PM, BAForever said:

1. Whit will prance around in inappropriate clothes.

2.Whit will be passive-aggressively nice/mean to friends and family. 

3. Whit will go on a fabulous trip or two.

4. Whit will have no visible employment, but will be all over IG shilling stuff.

Here are my guesses @auntjess.

 

That and she'll also chronicle all her half-assed, lame-o, desperation-reeking, for-the-camera-only attempts at meeting a man. 🙄

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It wd be nice if she acted normal around Kenny or on camera generally. The shrieking, the faux outrage at double entendres about his squirrel, unless she makes the comments,  the stupidity of acting innocent or not understanding at 40 years old. 

Sorry, I just realized I'm in the wrong thread. 

I think Kenny might like her... maybe cuz she's like his mom or the ladies he's used to growing up at church or prayer meetings who call him honey or darlin'.. Lots of makeship,  dangle earrings, bossy, heavy, middle aged, etc. 

Or her half sister's family are just throwing him a bone to mateepee. $, have some fun pretending,  and be on the big teevee.

 

 

 

 

Make some $, not materpee... where's the editing key when you need it?

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10 hours ago, Mollywolly555 said:

It wd be nice if she acted normal around Kenny or on camera generally. The shrieking, the faux outrage at double entendres about his squirrel, unless she makes the comments,  the stupidity of acting innocent or not understanding at 40 years old. 

Sorry, I just realized I'm in the wrong thread. 

I think Kenny might like her... maybe cuz she's like his mom or the ladies he's used to growing up at church or prayer meetings who call him honey or darlin'.. Lots of makeship,  dangle earrings, bossy, heavy, middle aged, etc. 

Or her half sister's family are just throwing him a bone to mateepee. $, have some fun pretending,  and be on the big teevee.

Kenny talked to her last season and had all of the time between seasons to get to know her if her wanted to.  You don't wait to do a first meeting in front of tv cameras if you really are interested in someone!

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1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

Its more interesting when you can live chat the episodes, but there's such little interest, the episode threads aren't even created until a day later. Same for RHofDubai tonight. Ah well. Maybe we're experiencing the death knell of reality tv. 

Well this show is way past its expiration date, that's for sure, as are several others. I think it's a combination of not enough good on TV during the Summer and more people finally going back to having a real Summer after the pandemic.

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1 hour ago, Me from ME said:

Sorry Yeah No, it was the LA Times. The headline was "Reality TV workers face a bleak job market amid production decline ..."

OK, if you want to read it here's what to do:

Copy the link to the article (below):

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-08-05/the-hollywood-production-collapses-latest-victim-why-the-reality-tv-bubble-finally-burst

And paste it into the search box on this page and click the button next to it that says "clean page":

https://12ft.io/

And the page will open without the paywall blocking it.

I read the article and here's my opinion:

When the streaming services started to rise I knew that wasn't too well thought out because all it was going to do was make it easier to watch repeats of entire series from years before. You have all these 20 and 30 somethings that never saw "Project Runway" or "Survivor" episodes from the 00s so they can spend a lot of time watching stuff that already exists which takes them away from watching new stuff. So between that and the streaming platforms churning out new stuff and all of that competing with broadcast TV and the internet there's just too much stuff out there anymore. So of course the bubble's going to burst. Competition is good but too much competition and the whole thing implodes. Sometimes young people think more is better and they're overconfident that whatever they do is going to succeed and prevail, but sometimes there was less available for a good REASON. There weren't fewer channels and options in the past because we were all idiots. It's because people knew better than to oversaturate the market. No one can see past the end of their nose or their wallet anymore and because of that they're ruining it for all of us.

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