TigerLynx April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 If the Claimers and Terminus had been around for more than a few episodes, I wonder how badly the writers would have screwed them up to? I don't ship couples. Rick and Michonne are okay. I wouldn't have thought of them as a couple. I thought Glenn and Maggie were okay to. I liked that Glenn and Maggie were trying to move forward with their lives. I don't think Maggie getting pregnant was such a great idea, but I did like Glenn's response to Abraham that if they weren't thinking about the future than what was the point of everything they were doing? Unfortunately, I now know the answer to Glenn's question. The point is for the writers to see which character they can give the most gruesome or idiotic death to. When Rick and everyone trekked all the way to Oceanside, why didn't they try to make friends with them, and hide out with the Oceansiders? Instead they stole all their guns, and gave them to the junkyard idiots who turned on them. Do the people left at Hilltop and the Kingdom know to be prepared for Negan coming after them? Negan and some of his henchmen know who Jesus and Zeke are don't they? Shiva was still the best part of the episode. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3158188
MrsRafaelBarba April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 On 4/2/2017 at 11:21 PM, Mu Shu said: Oops. Sasha didn't save the day, the fake tiger did. Im pissed off that Michonne got beat down by what looked like a 15 year old Russian figure skater. I ain't buying it, not even with stolen bucks. isnt Tobin dead? And eaten? Tobin was shown shooting at Negan's truck, along with Father G, Francine, Aaron, Eric and Scott. Also spotted him getting what looked like first aid, from Birdie. That nice BW from Hilltop. During montage with Maggie's voiceover, when Aaron gave an apple to Jerry from the Kingdom. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3158243
Macbeth April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 5 hours ago, mightysparrow said: In my opinion in order to make her a suitable partner for Rick Grimes, Michonne has been dialed down to less than half of the person she was before. ....Carl and Michonne have barely interacted since she's started fucking his old man, and they used to have one of the best relationships on the show. I think the most fucked up thing is the number of war councils that have taken place without Michonne. Is she at home making dinner? Michonne is a better fighter than Rick Grimes. But we all know that Rick prefers his women to be more ornamental, so she's probably at home dusting the cat statue. I was a fan of Richonne - until it actually happened and saw what it did to Michonne's character. Michonne has been sacrificed on the altar of Rick's stupidity. As he is being written as an incredibly dimwitted character - she ends up stupid as a byproduct. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3158329
smorbie April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said: Me too. Michael Rooker is always tiptop - with acting abilities far beyond most of the rest of the cast and hate him or love him, his Merle will never be forgotten. At the risk of repeating myself (sorry, bad memory) I would have paid to watch an ep dedicated to what happened to him from the time he decided to cut his hand off until the Governor picked him up. That would have been so much better than watching Beth get hit in the face and eat Guinea pigs or listening to the cheesemaker spouting parables. Unlike Tara, MR could carry an episode by himself. What I thought about the Claimers was that their lives probably marginally improved after the ZA, which is part of made them interesting to me. Ugghhhh, anything but the cheesemaker. OMG, what a waste of my life. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3158333
AngelaHunter April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 1 hour ago, TigerLynx said: When Rick and everyone trekked all the way to Oceanside, why didn't they try to make friends with them, and hide out with the Oceansiders? Instead they stole all their guns, and gave them to the junkyard idiots who turned on them. Well, okay - when you put it that way, it sounds bad. lol! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3158436
Nashville April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Mu Shu said: My neighbor has a beat up RV out front. Every time I walk by, I expect Dale to be working on a cellunoid, or something. Possibly tie rod ends. Don't think any of my vehicles has one of those. That located anywhere near the solenoid? ;) 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3158691
mandolin April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 I tried to do a multiquote on my phone but I lost it, but I wanted to respond to those that think the showrunners are doing a disservice when they say they are trying to stick closer to the comics. Often times, things in the comics don't translate well to the tv (at least in the way the show does it), but the SHOW, not the comics, gave us Grady, the GPKs, and Tara (for me, three very big fails). I rewatch old seasons/episodes a lot, especially from seasons 1-3. The feeling from those seasons was drastically different from what I get now, but the end of this episode gave me a bit of that ol' Walking Dead feeling I used to get. No matter how improbable it was that all the groups showed up at just the right time, the fact that they were all fighting together, as a family, is one of the things I love about the show. The journey they've been on, however ridiculous and full of mistakes and stupid villains, the people I care about still are there for each other. I even overlooked Maggie's accent in her final voiceover for the Glenn callbacks. I really enjoyed that. Anytime a show remembers its history, I'm appreciative. Shockingly, I also enjoyed Negan's one-liners this episode. Now, someone please get Tara off my screen, forever and ever, amen. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159371
AngelaHunter April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Nashville said: Don't think any of my vehicles has one of those. That located anywhere near the solenoid? ;) No, I think it's part of the Cadillac converter, which I think is just above the exhilarator (wish I had one of those in my car) according to Judge Judy litigants. Quote Shockingly, I also enjoyed Negan's one-liners this episode. Now, someone please get Tara off my screen, forever and ever, amen. To this first part, I think I actually laughed out loud when he said, "The widow's alive, guns a-blazin'!" Only thing that could have made it better would be, "The widow LADY... " like in an old Western. Second part - maybe if we all say it out loud, Tara will go away or at least stay in the background where she's best utilized. Edited April 7, 2017 by AngelaHunter 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159377
Ocean Chick April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 47 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said: Cadillac converter Does that convert my car into a Cadillac? Or does it convert a Cadillac into some other kind of car? Inquiring minds and all that... You two are too awful. Awful funny, that is. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159527
Mu Shu April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 Stop making fun of me. Everyone knows that any pain you have must be your syatic, and undetermined failure of junker car to run is the cellunoid. Is Tobin dead, or what? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159550
Gobi April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mu Shu said: Stop making fun of me. Everyone knows that any pain you have must be your syatic, and undetermined failure of junker car to run is the cellunoid. Is Tobin dead, or what? I guess I'm not the sole annoyed person by this. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159566
Mu Shu April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 Just now, Gobi said: I guess I'm not the sole annoyed person by this. Annoyed by what? Not knowing if Tobin is alive or dead? The other part is just fun. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159574
Gobi April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 31 minutes ago, Mu Shu said: Annoyed by what? Not knowing if Tobin is alive or dead? The other part is just fun. Sole Annoyed - Solenoid. These are the jokes, people. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159657
smorbie April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said: No, I think it's part of the Cadillac converter, which I think is just above the exhilarator (wish I had one of those in my car) according to Judge Judy litigants. To this first part, I think I actually laughed out loud when he said, "The widow's alive, guns a-blazin'!" Only thing that could have made it better would be, "The widow LADY... " like in an old Western. Second part - maybe if we all say it out loud, Tara will go away or at least stay in the background where she's best utilized. Where I used to live we once a sudden, unexpected ice storm, with very little warning. The local news was interviewing people and one man said, and I quote, "I was just fiberglassed!" Yep, preserved forever for anyone to see. I didn't laugh when Negan kept talking while the fighting was going on. All I could do was wonder what on EARTH could possibly make him SHUT UP! Yes, it's funny in retrospect, but while it was happening, no. I've always liked Tara, but she did get on my nerves a bit in the last half of the season. I don't really know why. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159792
Dobian April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said: To this first part, I think I actually laughed out loud when he said, "The widow's alive, guns a-blazin'!" Only thing that could have made it better would be, "The widow LADY... " like in an old Western. See this is where Negan could actually have been and could still become the best character on this show. TWD is so utterly humorless and pretentious. The absurdity of this whole world they're all trying to survive in is never acknowledged or appreciated. I'm not saying turn TWD into Zombieland, but having a villain who enjoys his villainy and gets the irony of it all, and good guys who are like, yeah this world is effed up but so what, let's make it cool, that would be so refreshing. Let's have more nutty vengeful characters, morally ambiguous characters (besides the cowardly Eugene), who switch alliances between the good guys and the bad guys at the drop of a hat, lone wolfs, bad characters you love. I want a show with Mad Men characters, Breaking Bad/BCS characters. They just need some writers who can do this. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159880
smorbie April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 a little humor is always welcome, but the statement just didn't really strike me as funny. They have added some levity. Eugene can be hilarious and Tara is often funny. Gregory is too much fun to watch. But the show is supposed to be pretty bleak, I think. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3159986
Nashville April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gobi said: Sole Annoyed - Solenoid. These are the jokes, people. Glad you told us. :D And agreed - at present, Negan has the best comedy potential of anybody on the show, save perhaps Eugene. And that's kind of a depressing thought.... Edited April 7, 2017 by Nashville 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3160246
AngelaHunter April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, smorbie said: The local news was interviewing people and one man said, and I quote, "I was just fiberglassed!" Yep, preserved forever for anyone to see. Anything can be turned into a verb these days. Is being fiberglassed better than being fraudulated while you're conversating? Norm Crosby would be proud. I wish Negan had been allowed to say, "Ho-leeee fuckity fuckin' FUCK! A tiger!" 1 hour ago, smorbie said: Gregory is too much fun to watch. Gregory is several kinds of awesome. And he DID call Rick "Ricky." Superb. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3160275
Dobian April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, smorbie said: They have added some levity. Eugene can be hilarious and Tara is often funny. Gregory is too much fun to watch. Eh, this show's idea of humor is usually having people talk weird, whether it's Abraham, Eugene, Ezekiel, or the Garbage Pail Kids. Hell, Bates Motel has made me laugh out loud many times, and that show is as dark as they come. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3160422
AngelaHunter April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 44 minutes ago, Dobian said: Eh, this show's idea of humor is usually having people talk weird, whether it's Abraham, Eugene, Ezekiel, or the Garbage Pail Kids. Pretty much. "Hyuk hyuck - he/she talks funny. Gee, isn't that hilarious? Everyone laugh." I like things like when Rick and Aaron were paddling across Lake Zombie and the board Rick was using as a paddle said "Asshole" on it. THAT I found funny. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3160545
paigow April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 17 hours ago, Nashville said: Don't think any of my vehicles has one of those. That located anywhere near the solenoid? ;) I hate changing the cellulite bulbs.... 2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said: I wish Negan had been allowed to say, "Ho-leeee fuckity fuckin' FUCK! A tiger!" Confirming my suspicion that his real name is Neg Flanders... 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3160745
AngelaHunter April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, paigow said: Confirming my suspicion that his real name is Neg Flanders... Okay, so I admit I'm totally out of it regarding anything current. I had to look that up and what I found baffled me further: Quote Neg Flanders @VorpalChutney 20 Feb 2014 More Copy link to Tweet Embed Tweet if you ponder, suck it yonder Very poetic. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3160762
Mu Shu April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gobi said: Sole Annoyed - Solenoid. These are the jokes, people. Lol! I'm the award winner of dumb poster of the day. Crap. IS. TOBIN. ALIVE? Edited April 7, 2017 by Mu Shu 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3160878
rmontro April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 22 hours ago, nodorothyparker said: I do wish they hadn't killed Merle. Maybe he'd still be around if he had lasted a little longer. It seems like now they are a lot more hesitant to kill off the major characters than they used to be. It's like if you are one of the main characters, and you make it into season 5 or 6, you're probably going to be around awhile. They did kill Glenn, but that was originally part of issue 100 in the comics - Kirkman wanted to do something special for the landmark. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3160923
smorbie April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Dobian said: Eh, this show's idea of humor is usually having people talk weird, whether it's Abraham, Eugene, Ezekiel, or the Garbage Pail Kids. Hell, Bates Motel has made me laugh out loud many times, and that show is as dark as they come. Bates Motel is brilliant screen writing and acting. it's just untouchable right now in terms of quality. 4 hours ago, AngelaHunter said: Anything can be turned into a verb these days. Is being fiberglassed better than being fraudulated while you're conversating? Norm Crosby would be proud. I wish Negan had been allowed to say, "Ho-leeee fuckity fuckin' FUCK! A tiger!" Gregory is several kinds of awesome. And he DID call Rick "Ricky." Superb. He meant to say flabbergasted. Fiberglassed just makes no sense. 56 minutes ago, Mu Shu said: Lol! I'm the award winner of dumb poster of the day. Crap. IS. TOBIN. ALIVE? Yes, Tobin, The Boring is still alive. No wonder poor Carol had to run away. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161005
AngelaHunter April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 Quote Fiberglassed just makes no sense. Making no sense is not a hindrance for many people. If one can have a verbital agreeance, I'm sure one can also be fiberglassed. 1 hour ago, smorbie said: Bates Motel is brilliant screen writing and acting. I must check it out. I have nothing at all to watch at the moment. 1 hour ago, smorbie said: Yes, Tobin, The Boring is still alive. Tobin the Boring: Is that like Eric the Red or Richard the Lionhearted? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161181
mandolin April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 (edited) For those that mentioned that Negan seemed to pause before smiling at Rick when Rick threatened to kill him this time during the mini lineup, go back and watch the beginning of 7x01. Rick of course uses the same words and Negan's response is very different. It is an interesting juxtaposition, and the show does excel at little details like that. I really did enjoy the ending of 7x16 with all of the callbacks from Glenn's time on the show and season one. I also enjoyed the soundtrack during the fire fight. I have been unhappy with quite a bit, but there are a lot of little details that I can be happy about. I have just had to look super closely… eta: it is still crap when the show does things like cliffhangers for seven months of who got the bat or other blatant audience manipulation, but I was looking for a bit of positivity to counter the blah I have been feeling for a while. :p Edited April 8, 2017 by mandolin 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161229
Raven1707 April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 Eleven pages in, my guess is pretty much everything that could be said, has been said. I watched the finale again yesterday, though, and noticed a couple of details I'd missed the first time... When Jadis shoots Rick, it looked to be the proverbial flesh wound, as though the bullet merely grazed his left side. (Didn't want to damage the goods?) When walker Sasha attacks Negan and they fall off the truck, the Savior who comes to Negan's aid and is killed instead of Negan is the beanie-wearing Savior who took Enid's knife in Episode 714, "The Other Side." Eduardo (aka Man-Bun) was among those from the Hilltop. Okay, I added that third one because using bullets for only two items just looks wrong. Overall, I enjoyed the finale although I would have LOVED it beyond measure if they'd actually offed Negan. Damn, you were this close, Sasha! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161299
Nashville April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said: Tobin the Boring: Is that like Eric the Red or Richard the Lionhearted? Oh, we can do a HELL of a lot better than THAT. How about Tobin the Torpid? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161537
ShadowSixx April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 On 4/3/2017 at 2:17 PM, tricknasty said: I don't want my beautiful Aaron with Eric or Jesus. He is mine! I know he isn't into women. I don't care. Loved him and his afro this ep. We would fight because I absolutely love Aaron as well. TWD mostly killed off all their cuties, mostly just 3 good looking men left IMO. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161762
Demig April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Mu Shu said: IS. TOBIN. ALIVE? There was an ASZ character in the beginning who looks like Tobin and was bit while out scavenging. He wrote a death note or something to somebody ( his wife?). And yeah I think he died at a fence or was eaten at a fence. But Everytime I see Tobin I pause because I think it's him. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161820
ShadowSixx April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 IMO IDK why Sasha would want to turn herself into a walker because walkers have been so useless over the past couple of seasons. If she had morphed into Shiva then alrighty then. Walkers are not even a threat anymore. Any character can get pass them and kill them now. Nobody has been killed by walkers for a long time, characters now are getting shot by other characters. Quite frankly there's no point to walkers anymore. Even wussy ass Gregory was able to keep one from biting him. I mean how many times have Rick been swarmed by a herd and walks out with no scratches? If walkers were taken out of the show, would you really notice now? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161902
smorbie April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 10 hours ago, AngelaHunter said: Making no sense is not a hindrance for many people. If one can have a verbital agreeance, I'm sure one can also be fiberglassed. I must check it out. I have nothing at all to watch at the moment. Tobin the Boring: Is that like Eric the Red or Richard the Lionhearted? I am fiberglassed, not to mention filed with worriation that people would think verbital agreeance constituates English. About Bates. I would encourage you to watch, but the show right now is winding down to the horror-filled ending. So as not to spoil yourself, I would suggest you start from the beginning. It's on Netflix. It is a slow burn the first couple of years, but there's enough creepy to keep you interested. Season three begins to really ramp up the crazy. The last year and this one have been full on insanity. But, the writing is also excellent and the acting above superb. Enjoy it. Tobin The Boring is indeed like Eric the Red if Eric were wearing a perpetual red shirt. And he's like Richard the Lionhearted in that, to be fair to his boringnessiess, (harking back to the first point), he does seem to be brave and a team player. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161908
rmontro April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, ShadowSixx said: IMO IDK why Sasha would want to turn herself into a walker because walkers have been so useless over the past couple of seasons. If she had morphed into Shiva then alrighty then. Walkers are not even a threat anymore. Any character can get pass them and kill them now. I get your point, although a fresh walker should still be considered dangerous. And there are less fresh walkers around these days. There's a theory that the walkers are slowly going extinct as they rot away. We see this as they have become easier to kill as the seasons go by, in fact we've seen some of them just fall apart on their own basically. Many think that this is by design. But a walker who has just turned should be more dangerous. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161910
smorbie April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 10 hours ago, mandolin said: For those that mentioned that Negan seemed to pause before smiling at Rick when Rick threatened to kill him this time during the mini lineup, go back and watch the beginning of 7x01. Rick of course uses the same words and Negan's response is very different. It is an interesting juxtaposition, and the show does excel at little details like that. I really did enjoy the ending of 7x16 with all of the callbacks from Glenn's time on the show and season one. I also enjoyed the soundtrack during the fire fight. I have been unhappy with quite a bit, but there are a lot of little details that I can be happy about. I have just had to look super closely… eta: it is still crap when the show does things like cliffhangers for seven months of who got the bat or other blatant audience manipulation, but I was looking for a bit of positivity to counter the blah I have been feeling for a while. :p Thank you for reminding me of the difference between the two scenes. I really can't watch the first episode again, I just can't take it. But, if I remember correctly, Negan immediately got angry and shouted at Rick. Negan underestimated him then. I wonder whether that has changed now. But, I stand by assertion that that one little moment was the best acting JDM has done on this show. There was fear and hesitation in his eyes. For one brief second he realized, as another poster upthread so beautiful said, that he was looking at his death. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161923
smorbie April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, rmontro said: I get your point, although a fresh walker should still be considered dangerous. And there are less fresh walkers around these days. There's a theory that the walkers are slowly going extinct as they rot away. We see this as they have become easier to kill as the seasons go by, in fact we've seen some of them just fall apart on their own basically. Many think that this is by design. But a walker who has just turned should be more dangerous. I agree. When the show first started and all the walkers were fresh, they even had the ability to use tools, turn door handles, and look under vehicles for their prey. A lot of people have complained that they no longer do that and attribute it to poor writing. But, I've always thought it was part of the deterioration of their brains and bodies. Therefore, a fresh walker would still retain some cunning and have full strength. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161928
rmontro April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, smorbie said: But, I stand by assertion that that one little moment was the best acting JDM has done on this show. There was fear and hesitation in his eyes. For one brief second he realized, as another poster upthread so beautiful said, that he was looking at his death. Really, by that point I would think that Negan would have had enough of the BS, and just decide that the Rick experiment was no longer worth continuing. He should have just killed the core group and found someone else to lead Alexandria, or else just burn the place to the ground. He didn't know then that the Kingdom and Hilltop were about to arrive to save the day. Too late now, and looks like next season will be dedicated to "All Out War". 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3161936
smorbie April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 I said earlier that upon their first meeting, a smarter man would have killed Rick. I can understand that he thought he had him cowed. But, it seems to me he couldn't have taken the chance that someone who led a group strong enough to best his men so many times, would remain under his thumb for long. Let's face it, after he killed enough people, a man like Rick was bound to figure out he could never live in peace with the saviors. He had to leave someone from the kneeling group alive because he REALLY wanted to get into Alexandria and had to have someone open the gate. But, he shouldn't have let Rick live. That was his fatal mistake. Well, that and the fact that he talks all the time, never changes clothes, wears a pleather jacket in the summer, and leans back constantly when he speaks. Have I covered it all? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3162099
SharonH58 April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 On 4/2/2017 at 10:57 PM, ShadowSixx said: I also find it hard to believe that Michonne would be losing in a fight as bad as she did. It's just not that believable. Not saying she can kick everyone's ass but just saying. They were redoing Andrea's fight from the comics. I think it was a guy she fought. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3162163
AngelaHunter April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 2 hours ago, rmontro said: We see this as they have become easier to kill as the seasons go by, in fact we've seen some of them just fall apart on their own basically. Many think that this is by design. Yes, it's by design, along with the opening "Walking Dead" title that is also getting more and more rotted and decrepit looking. 3 hours ago, smorbie said: I am fiberglassed, not to mention filed with worriation that people would think verbital agreeance constituates English. Not only worriation, but probably even furiation. (proper usage: "I had a furiation and keyed his car/busted his windshield/hit him upside the haid with a bottle.") 2 hours ago, rmontro said: He should have just killed the core group and found someone else to lead Alexandria, or else just burn the place to the ground. I still say anyone with sense would have not only killed them, but moved headquarters to Alexandria. Those houses are much more appealing than the dreary factory, even though Negan's personal room is pretty cozy. 3 hours ago, smorbie said: About Bates. I would encourage you to watch, but the show right now is winding down to the horror-filled ending. So as not to spoil yourself, I would suggest you start from the beginning. Thanks for the rec. When I find something I like, I start at the beginning and power-watch a season a day. 3 hours ago, smorbie said: I really can't watch the first episode again, I just can't take it. But, if I remember correctly, Negan immediately got angry and shouted at Rick. I can't watch it again either, so thank goodness for YT. He didn't get angry then, just kind of amazed at Rick's chutzpah: Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3162180
Ohwell April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 Regarding Michonne's fight with Blondie, I rewatched last night and I can see now how it wouldn't have been that easy for Michonne to take her down. She's not as "dainty" or "petite" as I thought on first watch, and the way she was using her elbows leads me to believe that she's used to fighting. I call her a low rent Rhonda Rousey and just because she's blonde and cute doesn't make her a wuss. But Michonne prevailed and that's all that matters. One of the complaints I've had about CDB is that they all seem to assume that no one else has had it as hard to survive as they have; that no one else has had to fight as hard as they have; that no one else can fight as well as they can -- and those are all ignorant and arrogant assumptions. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3162194
mightysparrow April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Ohwell said: Regarding Michonne's fight with Blondie, I rewatched last night and I can see now how it wouldn't have been that easy for Michonne to take her down. She's not as "dainty" or "petite" as I thought on first watch, and the way she was using her elbows leads me to believe that she's used to fighting. I call her a low rent Rhonda Rousey and just because she's blonde and cute doesn't make her a wuss. But Michonne prevailed and that's all that matters. One of the complaints I've had about CDB is that they all seem to assume that no one else has had it as hard to survive as they have; that no one else has had to fight as hard as they have; that no one else can fight as well as they can -- and those are all ignorant and arrogant assumptions. That's a good point. I guess the thing that bothered me was that in the fights Michonne has been involved, she might not have been the strongest but she was always the SMARTEST fighter and that's how she was always able to win. I guess Michonne was too busy worrying about Rick to keep her head in the game this time around. And apparently this is another time that Michonne has lost HER story and been given Andrea's and Andrea got her ass kicked by a man. I don't know why they made the character a woman, but it doesn't look like Gimple spends much time worrying about whether Michonne's story makes any sense. I agree that CDB has a huge sense of entitlement because they think they've suffered the most. It's clear that there are people who have had it as bad or worse. Look at the women from Oceanside. They had all of their men and boys murdered. Imagine how horrible that must have been. Dwight's an asshole but it must not be easy to watch a psychopath paw your wife. There's even a hierarchy of suffering WITHIN CDB. Carol is the Queen of All Suffering because she was an abused woman and she lost her daughter. But she's not the only one who's lost a child. Michonne's lost her baby and it's been mentioned twice. Abraham lost his wife AND kids. And I don't know how Maggie manages to stay on her feet, considering all that she's been through. Her accent may suck but I think Maggie is one of the strongest characters on the show. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3162341
magpye29 April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 1 hour ago, mightysparrow said: it doesn't look like Gimple spends much time worrying about whether Michonne's story makes any sense. Gimple doesn't spend any time worrying about whether ANY storyline makes sense. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3162549
AngelaHunter April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 4 hours ago, mightysparrow said: Regarding Michonne's fight with Blondie, I rewatched last night and I can see now how it wouldn't have been that easy for Michonne to take her down. She's not as "dainty" or "petite" as I thought on first watch, and the way she was using her elbows leads me to believe that she's used to fighting. Maybe she wasn't petite, but I bet anything she wasn't as strong as the Governor was. I bet a blow from her wasn't nearly as damaging as having one's head smashed into an aquarium (I have aquariums - without heads in them - and the glass is rather thick) and a brick wall, all of which Michonne endured yet emerged victorious and without even a visible owwie. It was a miracle! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3162960
SharonH58 April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 On 4/3/2017 at 10:17 AM, JackONeill said: I'm not arguing with you, but remember -- it was FPP who hooked Rick up with the GPK. FPP in essence, it not outright, vouched for them. The trashy ones kidnapped Gabriel. It isn't like they were his buds. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3163013
ShadowSixx April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 8 hours ago, SharonH58 said: They were redoing Andrea's fight from the comics. I think it was a guy she fought. They should have let Michonne take on a man. She's taken on men before not a damn GPK bitch. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3163293
dinkysquid April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 Notice how Negan keeps bringing up the fact that he made a spaghetti dinner for Carl? He's very, very proud of that! Not everybody can throw a jar of Ragu on some al dente spaghetti while still carrying out murder and mayhem! Rick is such a shitty, pathetic, piss-poor excuse for a leader that it's hilarious. Eugene? You sniveling, little fucking coward? I hope you get yours and it's not pretty. That leader of the garbage assholes? She needs to stop letting people cut her hair after they've done meth and tequilla shots. We see the end result. Maybe Maggie is adhering to the Hollywood Wives Pregnancy Diet, where she eats one stalk of celery and a Ritz cracker a day. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3163340
smorbie April 9, 2017 Share April 9, 2017 On 4/7/2017 at 11:54 PM, Nashville said: Oh, we can do a HELL of a lot better than THAT. How about Tobin the Torpid? I doff my cap to you sir, or madam. Torbin the Torpid it is! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3164239
bosawks April 9, 2017 Share April 9, 2017 In retrospect I have to give props to the garbage pail kids for having an exit strategy.... 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3164717
ByTor April 9, 2017 Share April 9, 2017 On 4/3/2017 at 0:51 AM, AwesomO4000 said: Ten what? Lords a leaping? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/55586-s07e16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life/page/11/#findComment-3165041
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