All Episodes Talk: All Rise

[BusyOctober]

7 hours ago, Brattinella said:

Everyone on JJ today was wearing earrings the size of coasters!  Even the audience!

I know!  The litigants' earrings were ginormous, but then I was blinded by the gold platter hanging from the ear of the woman in the audience.  It looked like she only had one on the right side. It was the size of a salad plate! I think if she had the other one on the other side, she would have required assistance to stand up. Was she picking up signals from the International Space Station with that thing? My general rule of earring wearing is if I can slide the hoop over my foot, past my ankle & calves, then it is too large to be worn hanging off the side of my head..

As for the dueling Baby Mommas...sigh.  Betty Friedan & Gloria Steinem must be so proud that the struggle for women's rights has come to this.  Illiterate & under-educated women fightin' over a barely employed loser who's only talent seems to be passing his questionable DNA  onto another generation.  Talk about diminishing returns. When JJ asked (rhetorically) "Someone with YOUR brain is going to raise 3 children??", did anyone else yell at the tv, "No, that's Byrd's & the American tax payers' job!"

[Pondlass1]

I doubt JJ can mention birth control without a fire storm.  But it's the guy that needs to get fixed for good.

I don't live in the States.  But dig deep in your pockets people.  Your taxes are paying to raise these children, mom was grinning from ear to ear she knows she'll be well looked after by the State - and Mr. Fertile will most likely to continue breeding with all and sundry and without commitment.  I do feel sad for these children who really don't have much of a chance to do anything but continue the cycle of welfare and low education.

15 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

'had went/had came'.

This ^ is really becoming a thing these days.  

[AngelaHunter]

3 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

I doubt JJ can mention birth control without a fire storm. 

She's mentioned birth control before, and it's always met with a "Duhhh!" expression from the indescriminate breeders. I remember her asking one dumb girl who got knocked up and of course had no job and was living with her mother, "Why didn't you use birth control?" Girl looked at JJ with an expression of incredulity as though she'd asked her why she hadn't yet scaled the Empire State building (not that she'd know what "scaled"means) and replied with, "I just didn't." A "I dunno. Why not?" shrug is the only answer as to why most of these people bring new human beings into the world.

14 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

This ^ is really becoming a thing these days. 

Maybe "had went/had came" is being taught in schools now, since college students say it.

[KittyMom4]

22 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Why didn't you use birth control?" Girl looked at JJ with an expression of incredulity as though she'd asked her why she hadn't yet scaled the Empire State building (not that she'd know what "scaled"means) and replied with, "I just didn't." A "I dunno. Why not?" shrug is the only answer as to why most of these people bring new human beings into the world.

Sadly, the mentality of many young people today is that getting pregnant and popping out babies at random is just what you do. There is no thought given to actually raising the poor child. My daughter had a friend who got pregnant by some loser when she was in high school, she posted many a FB update crying about how hard it was to continue her education, work and raise a baby, well duh! My coworker's unmarried, no baby daddy in sight, sister in law is currently gestating her 2nd baby, she barely spends any time with the first one who is mostly with her parents. My coworker said that when she asked her SIL why she was having yet another baby with no support she just shrugged and said "someone will help me." 

[AuntiePam]

My first impression of Lourdes Torres was positive.  JJ was giving her shit because she was late -- she missed her flight.  JJ doesn't understand why both litigants didn't take the same flight, or leave from the same airport, but oh well.  Torres doesn't get defensive or argumentative, just answers JJ's questions.

Torres is very attractive, a college student, and suing an ex-boyfriend for return of a $9,000 loan.  JJ asks where a college student gets $9,000 and Torres responds that it was a settlement, from a lawsuit, and that she can't say what the suit was about because of a confidentiality agreement.  My mind goes right to "Which married public figure were you having an affair with?"  The ex-boyfriend says he's not bound by a confidentiality agreement and he knows what the suit was about, but JJ makes the "zip it" motion and he shuts up.  Dammit.  The settlement was enough for her to pay cash for a house, and loan the BF $9K to pay off his credit cards.

More likely it was sexual harassment lawsuit, and after watching Torres through the rest of the case and in the hall, I'm pretty sure she instigated it with the thought of a payout in mind.  What a heartless bitch?  "Did I break his heart?  Oh, I guess so."

I looked for Torres on FB and found one who sorta looks like her and lives in San Antonio, but she's a physics student.  Torres didn't seem bright enough for physics. 

I had recently watched Great Expectations on TCM and thought Torres was channeling Estella, the young girl being groomed by Ms. Havisham to break men's hearts. 

[funky-rat]

2 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I doubt JJ can mention birth control without a fire storm.  But it's the guy that needs to get fixed for good.

I don't live in the States.  But dig deep in your pockets people.  Your taxes are paying to raise these children, mom was grinning from ear to ear she knows she'll be well looked after by the State - and Mr. Fertile will most likely to continue breeding with all and sundry and without commitment.  I do feel sad for these children who really don't have much of a chance to do anything but continue the cycle of welfare and low education.

This ^ is really becoming a thing these days.  

It's been a problem for eons, but you're lambasted if you suggest that there should be limitations, requirements, etc, to try to reign some of it in.  And when cuts are made, it only hurts the children, sadly, who didn't ask for any of it.  It's a no-win.

You'd be amazed (or maybe you wouldn't) to know that a lot of men in today's world legit think that getting the snip involves removing parts of your anatomy, and/or makes you impotent.  A friend's daughter-in-law said she didn't want her husband "neutered" and seriously thought that was what was done.  There is also a lot less sex ed/birth control in school, it seems.  We had it crammed down our throats, but I saw a thing on social media last night, shared from a relative of Mr. Funky who is an anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorist, and is religious when it's convenient to be, about having a nation-wide sit-out of all Sex Ed classes because it's tantamount to showing children porn.  I give up.

[Brattinella]

4 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

But it's the guy that needs to get fixed for good.

I most heartily concur!  But, as is shown on TV sitcoms, etc... lots of men just flat out won't do it.  It is the safest, cheapest way to have no more children.  It is a gimme!  But there is some kind of stigma or slur on one's manhood behind it.  Lots of men won't even fix their male dogs for the same reason!  I talked my ex into it after he had an affair and made her pregnant.  He fought tooth and nail, but he finally got it through his skull that making more babies wasn't a good idea.

It is my understanding that The Pill is still available for free to low-income ladies, is that true?  Some ladies on these shows appear to have never heard of such a thing.  Taking one tiny pill a day, what's so hard about that??

Edited April 27, 2018 by Brattinella

[AngelaHunter]

2 hours ago, GoodieGirl said:

My coworker said that when she asked her SIL why she was having yet another baby with no support she just shrugged and said "someone will help me." 

Call for Officer Byrd! Hey, "someone's gotta take care of my kids!"

 

1 hour ago, funky-rat said:

a lot of men in today's world legit think that getting the snip involves removing parts of your anatomy, and/or makes you impotent.

They also think it makes them less of a "man". "If I can't go around indescriminately knocking up stupid women to give forth the fruit of my potent loins even if I have no intention or capability to support them, how can I be a "real man?"

1 hour ago, funky-rat said:

having a nation-wide sit-out of all Sex Ed classes because it's tantamount to showing children porn. 

I agree! Don't let them know the consequences of unprotected sex, even though they're having it! Show them movies chock full of violence and torture porn instead. Keep our children safe from knowledge about the human body as pertains to s-e-x.

[Schnickelfritz]

1 hour ago, AuntiePam said:

Torres is very attractive, a college student, and suing an ex-boyfriend for return of a $9,000 loan.  JJ asks where a college student gets $9,000 and Torres responds that it was a settlement, from a lawsuit, and that she can't say what the suit was about because of a confidentiality agreement.  My mind goes right to "Which married public figure were you having an affair with?"  The ex-boyfriend says he's not bound by a confidentiality agreement and he knows what the suit was about, but JJ makes the "zip it" motion and he shuts up.  Dammit.  The settlement was enough for her to pay cash for a house, and loan the BF $9K to pay off his credit cards.

Could this be the lawsuit? Right area of the country. The second link has a picture of her.

https://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2014/04/17/doug-phillips-vs-lourdes-torres-manteufel-lawsuit-informational-resource-page/

https://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2014/04/lourdes-torres-manteufel-sues-douglas.html

[Brattinella]

28 minutes ago, Schnickelfritz said:

Could this be the lawsuit? Right area of the country. The second link has a picture of her.

https://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2014/04/17/doug-phillips-vs-lourdes-torres-manteufel-lawsuit-informational-resource-page/

https://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2014/04/lourdes-torres-manteufel-sues-douglas.html

Sounds right.  I think I remember her claiming San Antonio as her home. 

[califred]

Vision forum and Doug are gross.  If she was involved in that as a child the fact that she’s in college as a female is miraculous.  (Think Duggars)

[AuntiePam]

Yes, that's her.  Google on her name brings up lots of hits.  Apparently she is studying physics!  If my internet wasn't so slow today, I'd be reading about her divorce and her affair and who knows what else!

The sexual assault happened when she was 21, but that doesn't make it any less gross and damaging -- unless she instigated it.  Because seriously, watching the way she reacted to her ex-BF was chilling.  She was almost gleeful about his broken heart.

[Toaster Strudel]

I never realized that Martha Stewart is already 95 yrs old. How far have the mighty fallen, that she ends up being a defendant on JJ being castigated for using a restraining order to evict her tenant.

[AuntiePam]

1 hour ago, Toaster Strudel said:

I never realized that Martha Stewart is already 95 yrs old. How far have the mighty fallen, that she ends up being a defendant on JJ being castigated for using a restraining order to evict her tenant.

I thought she looked like Kellyanne Conway. 

No props to the plaintiff in the hallterview though.  I doubt that being "a woman of color" had anything to do with the landlord calling the cops on her. 

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, Toaster Strudel said:

I never realized that Martha Stewart is already 95 yrs old

I think I know who you mean. Haven't watched yet but saw the preview. Wasn't that Cruella DeVille's evil Momma?

[Florinaldo]

2 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

I never realized that Martha Stewart is already 95 yrs old. How far have the mighty fallen, that she ends up being a defendant on JJ being castigated for using a restraining order to evict her tenant.

Now now, that is not very nice at all to MS; sure, she can be haughty at times, but nothing like this self-important and condescending old hag, whose time is sooooo very valuable.

 

49 minutes ago, AuntiePam said:

I doubt that being "a woman of color" had anything to do with the landlord calling the cops on her. 

That was a clear overrearch on her part and she lost a lot of my sympathy with that idiotic and irrelevant statement. By saying such a thing she completely trivialises situations where real racial discrimination takes place.

 

8 hours ago, funky-rat said:

You'd be amazed (or maybe you wouldn't) to know that a lot of men in today's world legit think that getting the snip involves removing parts of your anatomy, and/or makes you impotent.  A friend's daughter-in-law said she didn't want her husband "neutered" and seriously thought that was what was done.  There is also a lot less sex ed/birth control in school, it seems.

People are very ignorant about a great number of scientific and biological realities, choosing to cling to myths and demonstrably erroneous knowledge; which is one reason so many people for example think that vaccination causes autism, evolution is an invention and that simple contraceptive measures reduce sexual performance. It explains in part why so many of those litigants don't seem to grasp the notion that they should have considered prevention, although laziness and plain stupidity are also important factors. To them, a lifetime of having to care for a brood of lil' 'uns seems a small price to pay for not bothering with the few seconds necessary to take the appropriate precautions.

Does JJ even know what her very frequent "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" really means? Unless I am ignorant of a usage whereby it does mean "zero", I think she may have been confused by a partial resemblance to the word "zippo".

Edited April 28, 2018 by Florinaldo

[Schnickelfritz]

11 minutes ago, Florinaldo said:

Does JJ even know what her very frequent "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" really means? Unless I am ignorant of a usage whereby it does mean "zero", I think she may have been confused by a partial resemblance to the word "zippo".

People use it in my neck of the woods all the time in the place of zero. Must be a regional thing.

[Jamoche]

53 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I think I know who you mean. Haven't watched yet but saw the preview. Wasn't that Cruella DeVille's evil Momma?

If Cruella was a facelift/botox addict, and went after pink poodles instead of Dalmatians.

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, Florinaldo said:

People are very ignorant about a great number of scientific and biological realities, choosing to cling to myths and demonstrably erroneous knowledge; which is one reason so many people for example think that vaccination causes autism, evolution is an invention and that simple contraceptive measures reduce sexual performance.

People were very ignorant when I was young, because we had no source of information at all. Still, all my friends and I somehow managed to avoid getting knocked up multiple times with a bunch of loser. But today, everyone lives online. Don't they ever use their computers for anything but FB drivel and posting stupid and/or naked pics of themselves? Do they realize there is information on every subject under the sun, including birth control, at their fingertips? Even if they can't spell anything, Google will help.

Of course, I'm not saying it's only the young who are total fuckups. I do remember the 43 year-old weepy cougar who let some dopey, round-headed teenager knock her up, in the garage or a car or something and was crying because 'he promised to take care of me' - well, he was going to, until his mommy sent him to his room. It's hopeless.

Edited April 28, 2018 by AngelaHunter

[Florinaldo]

12 hours ago, Schnickelfritz said:

People use it in my neck of the woods all the time in the place of zero. Must be a regional thing.

Interesting. So that semantic shift is not limited to JJ. The general usage, at least where I live and from what I can find on the Web, is as a sarcastic (and insincere) expression of celebration or approval at someone's story of woes, success, problems, etc.

11 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Don't they ever use their computers for anything but FB drivel and posting stupid and/or naked pics of themselves?

Many youngsters wallow in Internet drivel and do not bother finding good information, much less making use of it, but there's also a a good number that do use it wisely and efficiently. So all hope is not lost. We have to remember that the people we see on these shows self-select way downwards in the genetic pool and on the scale of intelligence level.

Edited April 28, 2018 by Florinaldo

[configdotsys]

One of my favorite lines from one of my all time favorite movies, "The Goodbye Girl" was when Richard Dreyfus says to Marsha Mason, "You get zippity DOO DAH!" (meaning nothing) when he leaves money for something.

Around here, it's commonly used to mean zero as well.

Edited April 28, 2018 by configdotsys
clarity

[Blissfool]

Why was JJ  making a big deal over the grown nephew spending the night at the defendant's house? It did seem as if she was trying to insinuate incest.

Edited April 28, 2018 by Blissfool

[Florinaldo]

14 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

Why was JJ  making a big deal over the grown nephew spending the night at the defendant's house? It did seem as if she was trying to insinuate incest.

 

That's the only point during the case when I felt any sympathy for the defendant; I liked that she called JJ on her scabrous insinuation, no that the latter took any notice of it of course as she continued with the knowing smiles and words which implied that there had to be something there.

Edited April 28, 2018 by Florinaldo

[Blissfool]

16 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

Yes, that's her.  Google on her name brings up lots of hits.  Apparently she is studying physics!  If my internet wasn't so slow today, I'd be reading about her divorce and her affair and who knows what else!

 

Wow, @AuntiePam, I got sucked into a rabbit hole. So much for a confidentiality agreement, it's all over the internet. Court documents, bitter ex husbands, forums dedicated to this lady and her situation.

Going on national TV took it beyond the limits of San Antonio.

 

ETA: according to her Facebook, she has now decided to major in fashion rather than Physics. 

Edited April 28, 2018 by Blissfool

[DoctorK]

26 minutes ago, Blissfool said:

decided to major in fashion rather than Physics. 

Maybe that should be phashion, after all that way they both begin with "ph" so it would make sense.

[Sienna]

Doug Phillips is legit skeevy. As someone upthread mentioned, Vision Forum was sort of like what the Duggars espouse, only VF was somewhat more colorful than ATI/IBLP. Actually, Vision Forum once "honored" Michelle Duggar as Mother of the Year, and a bunch of the women and girls of VF, including Lourdes, did a creepy "Thank you, Michelle" video. Lourdes and her parents became involved in it when she was still a young teenager, and I have no doubt Doug took advantage of Lourdes (and probably others).

That said, Lourdes did NOT come off well here. I don't blame her for wanting her money back, but airing your problems on JJ is rarely a good look, and when the money originated the way Lourdes' did, some extra discretion sure wouldn't hurt.

[AngelaHunter]

I caught up with as much as I could take. Ms. Serbus? Why was she standing there smirking and nodding as her former lover-boy, Mr. Smith, who speaks like an illiterate, was being grilled for all his lies? She didn't meet him by chance at a club or even a gas station, where so many JJ love affairs begin. She got herself on "Plenty of Fish" scrolled around, saw his mug and thought, "I gotta get me some of that!" "He's a throwback," Ms. Serbus smirks, oblivious to the fact that everyone watching knows now how desperate she was, and probably still is. She really wanted him. Mr. Smith hasn't worked in seven years. He's on "SSDI" not to be confused with mere "SSI" which his cousin Elwood rakes in while his squeeze supports him and also supports Mr. Smith it seems. They're both disabled, see and Byrd happily subsidizes them. Mr. Smith declares, "We wuzn't dating." After all, he's got lots of women he's "talkin' to" so Ms. Serbus shouldn't feel so damned special. SHE had "droven off" and left her minor daughter alone with Mr.Smith and Elwood, who both overcame their disabilities long enough to move out all his stuff from her place even though he never lived there. Not only a liar, but a really stupid one. Luckily, Mr. Smith isn't too disabled that he can't hit a teenaged girl across the throat. Ms. Surbus? Mother of the Year Award, here we come.

Nervous, dithering idiot who wouldn't pay plaintiff for her process serving - he was willing to come here and be made a fool of over 200$? Twerp.

And then - ta da! Cruella DeVille, skinner of pink poodles. OMG! What is wrong with plaintiff that she would think moving in with that malignant hag was a good idea? Hag goes out and get pissed with her nephew and his buddy on New Year's Eve, brings them both home, they all continue drinking and her nephew (such a family man who is desperate to get home to his children and his job but spends New Year's Eve with his freaky aunt?) and, friend who passes out on the sofa and nephew, the family man, is so freakin' drunk he can't go home and beds down with his raddled old auntie? WTF? This was all too fucked up for me. It was annoying when plaintiff, in the hall, seems to think def's nutty behavior had something to do with the fact that plaintiff's skin isn't dead white. Don't be stupid, woman. Cruella was so outrageous you won 5K. Don't bother dragging that BS into it.

[Kaia40]

On 4/26/2018 at 1:08 PM, SandyToes said:

Borrowed, tooken, gaven, all new verbs (or new uses!) that crack me up!

Yes!! Love these! Also, looked-ed is another favorite of mine as in  “He lookeded very angry when he came at me” 

[AngelaHunter]

14 hours ago, Blissfool said:

Why was JJ  making a big deal over the grown nephew spending the night at the defendant's house?

What I got was not that she was making a big deal about him spending the night, but about him doubling up in bed with the aunt because it's freaky. What grown man would even consider sleeping with his aged hag of an aunt?  I've had lots of people spend the night at my house, but never in my bedroom or in my bed with me. There didn't need to be any incest to make this totally weird all around.

[Florinaldo]

11 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

What I got was not that she was making a big deal about him spending the night, but about him doubling up in bed with the aunt because it's freaky.

I think that JJ's salacious implications went beyond that. Was it ever established anyway that they slept in the same bed? When space is tight in a dwelling, sometimes people make sleeping arrangements that would seem unusual to most of us, without the need to infer anything creepy about it.

It came across as a cheap attempt to cast aspersions on the defendant; she was unlikeable, that is for sure, but it was not necessary for JJ to act in such a demeaning manner.

Edited April 29, 2018 by Florinaldo

[ButYourHonor]

On 4/27/2018 at 6:42 PM, AuntiePam said:

Yes, that's her.  Google on her name brings up lots of hits.  Apparently she is studying physics!  If my internet wasn't so slow today, I'd be reading about her divorce and her affair and who knows what else!

The sexual assault happened when she was 21, but that doesn't make it any less gross and damaging -- unless she instigated it.  Because seriously, watching the way she reacted to her ex-BF was chilling.  She was almost gleeful about his broken heart.

I definitely don’t believe she instigated anything.  It says the scumbag groomed her for YEARS, since she was a pre-teen.

Contrary to most, I didn’t think she seemed gleeful or unfeeling in the halterview.  Maybe bemused more than anything.  I mean it wasn’t some long-term relationship for him to have gotten all moon-eyed over, so I’m not sure why she should feel badly that he is “heartbroken”.  That’s on him, not her.  Women aren’t responsible for protecting men’s feelings - I mean other than not being total scumbags towards them, which I don’t feel this woman was.  The relationship simply didn’t work out, and clearly she didn’t spend it treating him like crap if she lent him 9k.  Hell, going on JJ actually the “nice” thing to do since it ensures that HE gets to keep the full 9k since she’ll be given 5k from the show, not him and the remaining 4K is just gone with the wind.  Frankly I think he was a bit of a gold-digger.  He knew she’d gotten a big settlement and figured “Sure, she can afford nine thou, easy! And she’s already proved easy to manipulate, so she’ll never ask for it back!”

Edited April 29, 2018 by ButYourHonor

[AngelaHunter]

3 hours ago, Florinaldo said:

It came across as a cheap attempt to cast aspersions on the defendant; she was unlikeable, that is for sure, but it was not necessary for JJ to act in such a demeaning manner.

I think she was more than unlikable. She had the plaintiff (who was paying her 1500$/month) removed by the police and then lied to the court and filed a restraining order on her, because def is evil and was too lazy to go to housing court for an eviction, so she deserves to have aspirations cast on her and to be treated in a demeaning manner, IMO. She caused the plaintiff great distress and humiliation by being led out by the cops. I still think it's bizarre that her nephew - a grown man and a father - gets drunk with ancient auntie and spends the night in her room. I don't know if he was in her bed, but probably, or she might have added to her "There was nothing incestuous" a "I have twin beds." That would still be weird, but that's just my opinion.

[Blissfool]

13 hours ago, ButYourHonor said:

 

Contrary to most, I didn’t think she seemed gleeful or unfeeling in the halterview.  Maybe bemused more than anything.  I mean it wasn’t some long-term relationship for him to have gotten all moon-eyed over, so I’m not sure why she should feel badly that he is “heartbroken”.  That’s on him, not her.  

Did he say he was heartbroken? I think she was maybe giving herself too much credit.

[AngelaHunter]

On 4/27/2018 at 2:22 PM, Schnickelfritz said:

Could this be the lawsuit? Right area of the country. The second link has a picture of her.

https://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2014/04/17/doug-phillips-vs-lourdes-torres-manteufel-lawsuit-informational-resource-page/

https://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2014/04/lourdes-torres-manteufel-sues-douglas.html

Whoa.  "Confidentiality agreement" has a different definition than it used to. I'm pretty sure it didn't mean "make it public across the globe with every dirty detail spelled out." How times change.

That's some cult, designed to make ball-less, low-testosterone wimps feel like Alpha Males dominating their females.

 

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According to the teachings of the patriarchy movement, also known as the stay-at-home daughters or quiverfull movement, young women remain at home under the protection of their fathers. They’re generally expected not to work outside their home or go to college, and they’re taught to abide by strict gender roles in which men have authority over women.

"quiverfull?" Oh, well, whatever janky-ass shit they're into is fine, but all that reminds me- "The Handmaid's Tale" is back. And here I thought it was merely fiction.

[funky-rat]

35 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Whoa.  "Confidentiality agreement" has a different definition than it used to. I'm pretty sure it didn't mean "make it public across the globe with every dirty detail spelled out." How times change.

That's some cult, designed to make ball-less, low-testosterone wimps feel like Alpha Males dominating their females.

 

"quiverfull?" Oh, well, whatever janky-ass shit they're into is fine, but all that reminds me- "The Handmaid's Tale" is back. And here I thought it was merely fiction.

I think the confidentiality agreement keeps her from talking about the settlement, and how much she got from it, etc.   There may also be something in there about the perpetrator not admitting to any wrong doing.  The court documents themselves are public, unless sealed or partially sealed, and at least at one time, those bloggers were able to gain access to them.  She did hold her mouth on how much she got, etc.

[bad things are bad]

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When space is tight in a dwelling, sometimes people make sleeping arrangements that would seem unusual to most of us

 

I just read this on Bloomberg this morning about Whistler BC's very expensive housing: 

"The rental market is more mind-boggling. One recent listing sought two female tenants for a single room in a shared house: the price was C$780 -- each -- to share a double bed."

Shockingly, the area is having a difficult time getting people to fill lower-paid jobs. 

[AngelaHunter]

8 minutes ago, bad things are bad said:

One recent listing sought two female tenants for a single room in a shared house: the price was C$780 -- each -- to share a double bed."

That's different. The ad isn't "Looking for a young woman to share a double bed with an elderly man."  I shared a bed a few times with my girlfriends when I was young - either on weekend away or staying overnight at their apartments. However, had my old uncle invited me to pile in with him, I'm 100%  sure I'd have declined.:p

[bad things are bad]

Oh yeah, I realize it's quite different. It struck me as sometimes I'll watch JJ and wonder what adults are doing renting rooms, much less sharing a BED. This is one answer. 

Craigslist is full of ads for "free rent for female" situations, which I'm sure isn't too wholesome. 

[Brattinella]

JUDY!  It is TIME TO RETIRE!!!  She makes law as she speaks.  Worthless judge.  FIRE HER, NBC!

[Florinaldo]

I thought that in the school crossing case, JJ was needlessly hostile towards the plaintiff and seemed to relish the opportunity to dress her down in front of her two sons. Since she displayed agressiveness from the start, even barely supressing it when examining the crossing guard, I guess this is one of those days she missed her much needed regularly scheduled morning bowel movement.

The girl crossed where she should not have, so the claim seemed reasonable. Instead of considering it on its merits, JJ went on a rant and asked an extreme hypothetical (at least she admitted it was hypothetical) which was completely irrelevant because it would have made for a different set of circumstances and would have led to a different analysis and probably decision on the part of the plaintiff. She set up a ridiculous false equivalency with that example.

When she was asking about parents coming to pick up their kids by car, I thought she would start reminiscing how in her days, they used to walk to school barefoot on broken glass all the way, uphill in both directions.

The loan for bail money case was rather unpleasant, or rather the two losers involved were. I quickly lost interest so perhaps it eventually got better.

[DoctorK]

I am really disappointed in JJ with today's case of the little girl who ran into the side of a car. Why the plaintiff sued I don't know because of such minor damage. However, it was completely clear that JJ had already decided this one before she even came out. JJ is not an accident reconstructor (her description of what couldn't have happened or must have happened in cases is often uninformed with respect to simple physics of momentum and energy) and she is not a medical doctor (it is entirely possible for a child to run into a brick wall hard enough to break a collarbone, it happened all the time when we were kids). If the accident happened the way the plaintiff and the crossing guard witness testified, the girl hit the mirror on the side of the car, and that would be about the right height for the mirror to hit her in the clavicle area. Still, I think the plaintiff was foolish to sue in this situation, let your insurance take care of it or cough up about $150-200 out of pocket and be glad the little girl was not badly injured. That would have been a lot more traumatic to both parties than a broken mirror.

Edited April 30, 2018 by DoctorK

[NYGirl]

Wow...today's episode brought back memories of the lady who sued the mother a a girl killed in an auto accident.  I think she was stupid to sue to get the money for the mirror back but JJ treated her rather harshly.  I'm sure the little girl ran out where she shouldn't be.  

I don't know how the plaintiff could have explained more explicitly how the girl hit the side of the car and not the front but JJ wasn't having what she was selling.

All in all a very uncomfortable case

[Quof]

I had a case years ago about a little girl who walked out onto the road in the path of a car.  Her vision, and that of the driver, was blocked by shrubs, but she should not have been entering the roadway there in any event.  She turned when she realized a car was coming, and the side mirror hit her square in the face.  Imagine how that looked.  Then imagine it worse.  

[Brattinella]

15 minutes ago, DoctorK said:

I am really disappointed in JJ with today's case of the little girl who ran into the side of a car. Why the plaintiff sued I don't know because of such minor damage. However, it was completely clear that JJ had already decided this one before she even came out. JJ is not an accident reconstructor (her description of what couldn't have happened or must have happened in cases is often uninformed with respect to simple physics of momentum and energy) and she is not a medical doctor (it is entirely possible for a child to run into a brick wall hard enough to break a collarbone, it happened all the time when we were kids). If the accident happened the way the plaintiff and the crossing guard witness testified, the girl hit the mirror on the side of the car, and that would be about the right height for the mirror to hit her in the clavicle area. Still, I think the plaintiff was foolish to sue in this situation, let your insurance take care of it or cough up about $150-200 out of pocket and be glad the little girl was not badly injured. That would have been a lot more traumatic to both parties than a broken mirror.

You have covered exactly all my talking points about this case.  I also think suing for the mirror was a bad choice.  But JJ needs to stop fantasizing about theoretical cases and pretending that is what happened.  Lady could have been parked there, and if little girl ran full tilt into a parked car, it would have ended the same way.

[SandyToes]

Seems we are all mostly in agreement on that one! I thought it a ridiculous case, and perhaps that was Judy's beef with it.  But I do agree that any adult, in a school setting, needs to be ultra vigilant about kids running out. Of course, we learned that in driver's ed, back in the olden days, when we had to watch all the videos about learning to drive. Woman was very lucky the little girl wasn't more seriously hurt.

The bail case? Cracked me up when Judy asked, "Woman to woman, what did you see in him?"  Ha!! 

I'm on to the rerun of the couple that attacked a busy body guy about the handicapped parking space. "He tried to rape me!" "Kick him, son!"   Aaaaallll caught on video.  What miserable, awful people. Audience amused and horrified and willing to lynch them all. Heh.  Son's defense: "I went into defense mode. Time to do what was RIGHT."  Sure.  Beating up someone else?  Apple/tree.

[Spunkygal]

43 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

You have covered exactly all my talking points about this case.  I also think suing for the mirror was a bad choice.  But JJ needs to stop fantasizing about theoretical cases and pretending that is what happened.  Lady could have been parked there, and if little girl ran full tilt into a parked car, it would have ended the same way.

I agree with everyone's comments about this case and I would never have sued. But what miffs me is that if plaintiff had not brought the crossing guard as a witness, JJ would have busted her chops for NOT bringing him. "Why didn't you bring the crossing guard? The crossing guard would have been your best witness." Can't you just hear her? But yeah, I agree that the plaintiff should have been thankful that the kid wasn't killed or more seriously hurt and paid for it herself. That kid learned a lesson the hard way. 

That model/dog eyeball case was kind of skanky. The photos were being taken in defendant's apartment because she had velvet furniture? I obviously have no working knowledge of model shoots. 

[SRTouch]

1 hour ago, Brattinella said:

You have covered exactly all my talking points about this case.  I also think suing for the mirror was a bad choice.  But JJ needs to stop fantasizing about theoretical cases and pretending that is what happened.  Lady could have been parked there, and if little girl ran full tilt into a parked car, it would have ended the same way.

Yep, I agree with everybody else - JJ often shows a lack of understanding the laws of physics when she tries to evaluate collisions.

As a kid I remember playing football in the front yard with my brothers. One brother tripped as he was running with the ball and ending up running headfirst into a tree.... Pretty sure tree wasn't even going 1mph - yet bro ended up with... You guessed it - broken clavicle (and a concussion, BTW)

Oh, and we never made it to estimates for damages, but Google tells me prices run from $75 up to $1500 for high end vehicles. This looked like a crossover - didn't catch what type.... But when you start adding all the available options - heated mirrors, turn signal on mirror, etc - the old wind wing mirror can get kind of pricey these days.

Yeah, going with JJ's hypothetical, I wouldn't sue for a mirror if little girl has been killed - but if I were out hundreds of bucks I might sue even though she had a broken clavicle and stitches - probably not, but I might _ especially if girl's mommy acted like it was all my fault.

[Florinaldo]

It may indeed have been a strategic mistake on the plaintiff's part to sue over the mirror and such a paltry amount, but there was damage and the girl was at fault, so there was a legitimate claim there. No matter how slowly and carefully one drives, it was probably unavoidable that the child would be hit as soon as she darted into traffic. But getting on national TV for such a small claim? Was it worth the chance of appearing heartless no matter how well-founded your claim was, not to mention running the risk of being on the receiving end of JJ's arbitrariness?

Her mind was so closed to the plaintiff's facts and arguments that she quickly declared her commentary on the video incomprehensible, whereas I thought it was rather straightforward, if one paid attention to it.

Perhaps the mother decided that it was worth getting a free trip for her sons, and maybe also for the crossing guard; how many witnesses are they allowed to bring on the show's dime?

 

50 minutes ago, Spunkygal said:

"Why didn't you bring the crossing guard? The crossing guard would have been your best witness." Can't you just hear her?

As clearly as if she were in the room with me.

 

2 minutes ago, SRTouch said:

JJ often shows a lack of understanding the laws of physics when she tries to evaluate collisions.

She would have resoundedly failed our first year university Newtonian mechanics course, as well as probably most science classes. But she considers her expertise to be unerring in every field.

Edited April 30, 2018 by Florinaldo

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Florinaldo said:

The girl crossed where she should not have, so the claim seemed reasonable. Instead of considering it on its merits, JJ went on a rant and asked an extreme hypothetical (at least she admitted it was hypothetical) which was completely irrelevant because it would have made for a different set of circumstances and would have led to a different analysis and probably decision on the part of the plaintiff. She set up a ridiculous false equivalency with that example.

Not only was it a false equivalency, but aren't you not supposed to have a witness speculate about something in court?

And of course the Plaintiff would have never sued if the girl had died—she didn't strike me as an unconscionable moron. The girl crossed where she wasn't supposed to and damaged the Plaintiff's property. I absolutely believe the woman was well within the bounds of the law to recover her costs. Would I have sued the girl's mother had it been me? Likely not. But the Plaintiff wasn't me.

God, JJ is such a relentless bitch.

As for the "models," I have a one-eyed cat (not sure why he has one eye - he was a rescue) so I just wanted to squeee! when I saw that adorable dog. And I think JJ was still high on her own supply of hubris and disdain when she heard that case. And I'm still wondering what kind of "modeling" those ladies were doing. While they were conventionally attractive, I didn't think they had much going for them in the long-term success in the fashion industry.

[iwasish]

THE models and  the dogs case. I thought it might have been a nude photo shoot. Maybe a some kind of porn. They were both vague about the nature of it.  I think JJ thought the same.