Quof January 7, 2016 Share January 7, 2016 I want to know what in the hell she was doing there defending herself (yeah, I know what she was doing there - it's tv, not real life). Her insurance company would/should have appointed legal counsel to defend her, so presumably she was in breach of her policy by not notifying the insurer of the lawsuit. Risky business if the finding of liability didn't go her way. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1852532
designing1 January 7, 2016 Share January 7, 2016 I loved DeLorean guy's hallterview: "It's a good thing she didn't damage the flux capacitor, that would have cost a fortune to fix!" I appreciate someone who sees the humor of their own fixation. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1852576
SandyToes January 7, 2016 Share January 7, 2016 Re: The bike lane case: I was afraid JJ was going to rule for the plaintiff, but then he made the crucial comments that (a) another vehicle had stopped to allow him to cross (it sounded like Judy thought the traffic pattern was slow enough for him to go), and (b) his field of vision was obscured. In my neck of the woods, we have lots of roads like this - where you have to cross two lanes of on-coming traffic when you can. Often the inside opposing car will stop, but that doesn't mean it's clear to go - there is still the far side lane. Those folks are under no obligation to stop to allow me to turn, and cannot even SEE that someone (like me) is trying to turn across. Was the def going to fast? Probably. But even more reason for the plaintiff to make sure the coast is completely clear. Just because the guy in the truck motioned him to go ahead (I am surmising), that doesn't mean it was safe. Now had the defendant seen there was an obvious gap in the traffic near a driveway, she could have slowed to see if perhaps someone was wanting to turn. But she zoomed instead. An unfortunate set of events, but he crossed oncoming traffic. The burden was his, and someone speeding is exactly why people shouldn't pull out/across until they can SEE the coast is clear. Whew. Can you tell that case had me going? When we had our driving lessons here many (many!) moons ago, this was something that was really pounded into us - the only person who can legally tell you to turn is a police officer. Not someone being nice in another vehicle, because they ALSO can't see what's coming. Just my take on things. :-) LOVED the DeLorean case. Even moreso when Judy got into it. I really enjoy seeing her get tickled about things in the cases. It must really break up the monotony for her of loan/gift and dog bite cases. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1852631
seacliffsal January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 I know the intersection referenced in today's case-Soquel and 17th. There is one lane and a parking lane. The defendant illegally used part of the parking lane to skirt around the stalled traffic. Santa Cruz takes their bike lanes seriously and motorists do not have the right to use the bike lane. The right turn lane she referenced was still well ahead of where she was. I wish Judy had found for the plaintiff as the defendant really did break the law. It was frustrating as the CHP officer even wrote up the report that way. Oh well. Driving has really become a defensive skill... 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1852835
Spunkygal January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 I know the intersection referenced in today's case-Soquel and 17th. There is one lane and a parking lane. The defendant illegally used part of the parking lane to skirt around the stalled traffic. Santa Cruz takes their bike lanes seriously and motorists do not have the right to use the bike lane. The right turn lane she referenced was still well ahead of where she was. I wish Judy had found for the plaintiff as the defendant really did break the law. It was frustrating as the CHP officer even wrote up the report that way. Oh well. Driving has really become a defensive skill... I, too, was originally miffed because the defendant used part of the parking lane (and/or bike lane) to nudge around traffic to turn right. But as they continued to show the diagram, and imagining traffic flow including parked cars and bikes, I later wondered about the CHP officer's report. In fact, replace the defendant with a cyclist and there possibly would have been a fatality. The plaintiff would have mowed over a cyclist because he couldn't see around the oversized truck. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1852924
SandyToes January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 seacliffsal brings up a fair point, and one of the downfalls of having a case heard outside of the jurisdiction, where the judge may also know the road in question. But I'm still with Spunky on this one. Good thing the plaintiff's flux capacitor wasn't damaged! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1852935
Intocats January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 I couldn't deal with Wyle and his oh-so-precocious act. I can't believe JJ didn't bust out the tired, "This isn't an audtion!" line on him. JJ: "The only one who's allowed to be insufferably cute around here is ME, and I've got the job!!!" 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1852954
zillabreeze January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 These days kids must be driven everywhere. At Halloween around here, parents take their kids trick or treating in the car, waiting at the bottom of each driveway for the kid to run up and grab their loot. It's sad, really. They do this in my neighborhood, too. Our front doors are roughly 30 feet of flat sidewalk from the curb! The kids can't walk to the freaking bus top? Wyld can't walk ,or bicycle, or skateboard, or hover, or pogo stick himself to the park? And yet, the reason so many kids are obese now is a complete mystery.... I am currently running a road job sort of in the country. One (and only one, out of a hundred) house has a set of three kids (2 boys & a girl) that walk to the bus stop. And!!! The minute the get home in the afternoon, they shoot back out the front door in their "Play Clothes" (remember those) and run or bike like crazy for about an hour or so. Everyday. 30 degrees or 100. I'll bet a paycheck none of them has "ADD or ADHD" Apparently CPS does not know about this travesty of parenting. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1853442
Milz January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 I am currently running a road job sort of in the country. One (and only one, out of a hundred) house has a set of three kids (2 boys & a girl) that walk to the bus stop. And!!! The minute the get home in the afternoon, they shoot back out the front door in their "Play Clothes" (remember those) and run or bike like crazy for about an hour or so. Everyday. 30 degrees or 100. I'll bet a paycheck none of them has "ADD or ADHD" Apparently CPS does not know about this travesty of parenting. What a bunch of weirdos! They should be locked in their basements playing video games. What if they trip and fall and skin their elbow from running or worse what if they fall from their bikes and break the bike? Jeez...what is happening to this world? ;-) I push the kids outside into our back yard where Mr. Milz built a tree house and a swing. Anyhow, the DeLorean guy was cute in the halterview. Too bad he didn't have a skate board with him. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1853991
WhineandCheez January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 Oh no. The guy in the Delorean case was reciting factoids from Back to the Future in his hallterview. I am about to greatly up my cred on this thread. In the 70's while living in NYC, I dated the Delorean's butler for awhile. I used to go to John Delorean and Christina Ferrari's Park or 5th Avenue apartment which was like the size on one city block. I loved the powder room, it had pink rock crystal sink knobs and the dining room had hand painted silk on the walls matching hand painted silk on the chairs, a Monet water lily-type design. Anywhoooo, anyone else shocked it only cost $800 and change to fix the car??? Guy could have gotten a much higher estimate from an antique car specialist and no one would have known. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854055
AngelaHunter January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 What if they trip and fall and skin their elbow from running Or another kid calls them a mean name, or someone gives them peanut butter or a dog barks at them? Lifelong trauma, pain and suffering, counselling, blah blah, and then the parents have to find someone to sue. Better to keep the offspring in the house, sitting in their rooms chatting with pedophiles online. WhineandCheez, colour me impressed! The Delorean loo sounds all kinds of upscale. Anyhow, the DeLorean guy was cute in the halterview. What about those defendants? Funny how when grown women titter and giggle like little girls it's not cute and makes them seem drunk or not quite all there. She did seem drunk and her plunging neckline didn't distract anyone from noticing that her man's boobs were bigger than hers. Ew. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854118
funky-rat January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 (edited) Where I live (Florida) we only have back plates on our cars. My neighbor pointed out that people will back into their driveways so the cops can't see that they either a) don't have a plate or b) have expired registrations. I've seen people in my community who have backed their cars right up to the garage door so nobody can see what registration gaffes they have committed. We have only back plates where I live too. People try to get sneaky, like putting plates from other states on the front, and then backing in. When they switched plate designs here, a lot of people put the old plate on the front. I just don't get it. Wyld looked like Ricky Segall, who played The Partridge Family's singing neighbor-next door Ricky (like that's the kind of neighbor you'd expect the Partridge Family to have. ) That kid. **SHUDDER** I had forgotten all about him. Was never a big Partridge Family fan, but that kid was the death knell for that show. I remember reading somewhere that he was the kid of a producer or big-wig at the studio. I couldn't deal with Wyle and his oh-so-precocious act. I can't believe JJ didn't bust out the tired, "This isn't an audtion!" line on him. There was a kid a number of years ago that seriously seemed to think his appearance on the show was an audition. He used jazz hands, and the most fake expressions I had ever seen. I can't remember if JJ told him off or not. I may have mentioned it here before, but in my development a lot of the parents drive their kids to the school bus stop. There are several stops in the development, so nobody lives more than a couple of blocks from one, but every damn morning the SUVs and minivans are lined up with the soccer moms and their precious snowflakes waiting for the bus to come. This is Tucson, so bad weather is rarely an excuse. I've never seen anything like that anywhere else I've lived (although this is my first home in the suburbs.) The kids can't walk to the freaking bus top? Wyld can't walk ,or bicycle, or skateboard, or hover, or pogo stick himself to the park? We get cold weather here. We have a covered bus stop in our community - not a lot of kids in our community either, but we've noticed that for elementary school kids, the parents are out there with their cars, and the kids sitting in them. Middle/High school kids are out, and the parents stand in a group behind the bus stop. That would just have to suck - I thought my parents were in my business too much when I was younger, and nowadays, they'd be in jail for neglect. Re: The bike lane case: I was afraid JJ was going to rule for the plaintiff, but then he made the crucial comments that (a) another vehicle had stopped to allow him to cross (it sounded like Judy thought the traffic pattern was slow enough for him to go), and (b) his field of vision was obscured. In my neck of the woods, we have lots of roads like this - where you have to cross two lanes of on-coming traffic when you can. Often the inside opposing car will stop, but that doesn't mean it's clear to go - there is still the far side lane. Those folks are under no obligation to stop to allow me to turn, and cannot even SEE that someone (like me) is trying to turn across. Was the def going to fast? Probably. But even more reason for the plaintiff to make sure the coast is completely clear. Just because the guy in the truck motioned him to go ahead (I am surmising), that doesn't mean it was safe. Now had the defendant seen there was an obvious gap in the traffic near a driveway, she could have slowed to see if perhaps someone was wanting to turn. But she zoomed instead. An unfortunate set of events, but he crossed oncoming traffic. The burden was his, and someone speeding is exactly why people shouldn't pull out/across until they can SEE the coast is clear. Whew. Can you tell that case had me going? When we had our driving lessons here many (many!) moons ago, this was something that was really pounded into us - the only person who can legally tell you to turn is a police officer. Not someone being nice in another vehicle, because they ALSO can't see what's coming. Just my take on things. :-) This happened to me, and my mom/dad in separate incidents. I couldn't see at an intersection. I had a guy wave me through. I got the front end of my car taken off. He didn't stick around after the accident. I got cited - cop told me I can't rely on anyone else to wave me through. About 15 years later, my mom and dad were turning left into a business. Traffic had stopped for a red light. Two cars left them room to come through. They turned. Someone who didn't want to wait for the light was barreling down the berm - a lot of people do that to "shortcut" their way to the right turn lane. He hit them hard. He was cited in this case. The officer said he was driving (and too fast) in a lane not zoned for cars, or driving. He also didn't have insurance. Gotta love it. Edited January 8, 2016 by funky-rat 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854250
arejay January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 There is one lane and a parking lane. The defendant illegally used part of the parking lane to skirt around the stalled traffic. As a former auto claims adjuster, i must agree with this assessment. One travel lane is one travel lane and as such, only one car can be in control of it at a time. Should plaintiff have kept a safe lookout for idiots anyway? Certainly! That's what makes him at least 50% at fault. Such is the case in a 'comparative' negligence state. I might have, however, had he been my insured, fought harder for him, since she was clearly in a lane not ordinarily designated for travel. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854356
Art Vandelay January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 I'll admit it, I thought Wyld was cute. Rehearsed but cute. I'm surprised JJ didn't give him the "I don't care what your dad told you to say" speech. She did seem to throw him off his track a bit when she interrupted her like hatred of like the word like. I thought she was a bit harsh with that - he's a young kid, not a ditsy teen. Good to tell him it's not a word to use a lot, but the interruption and carrying on was a but much IMO. And why does Dad sit in the car? Are there no park benches maybe? Doesn't make sense to me. I wonder why Delorean didn't want to divulge the price he paid for the car. I don't know if he didn't want to say because it was a good deal, a bad deal, or some other reason. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854396
Quof January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 At first I though Delorean didn't want his wife to know what he paid for the car. And then I caught myself, and laughed and laughed and laughed. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854420
AngelaHunter January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 I wonder why Delorean didn't want to divulge the price he paid for the car. I wouldn't want to say that I paid 24K for something that ugly, but yeah - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just because the guy in the truck motioned him to go ahead (I am surmising), that doesn't mean it was safe. I guess we've all had that happen. If the person who waves me through is driving a vehicle that blocks my view, I don't go because who knows what's coming up on his right and that I can't see? Plaintiff here should have enough experience and sense to know that. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854498
bad things are bad January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 Delorean guy was a bit too cute for me with the flux capacitor preciousness. If you look at classic car ads, they're full of "invested $30000, asking $20000". A lot of these guys have a high idea of what their baby is worth, until they try to sell it. I imagine John Z figured what he paid + what he's spent on repairs and stuff = worth. He really didn't want to say the relative pittance he paid, but of course in the end it was moot. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854575
Quof January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 but of course in the end it was moot. Or moo. Like a cow's opinion, it didn't matter. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854639
Brattinella January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 (edited) I also am/was familiar with that stretch of highway Cabrillo/Soquel/17th. There is one lane and a bike lane, and they get REALLY PISSY if anyone besides a bicyclist (or weenie-head, as I call them) uses the bike lane, even for a second. I'm surprised the entire Bay Area is not ALL motor vehicle-prohibited by now. And I remember DeLoreans with great fondness, they were pretty cool cars. Edited January 8, 2016 by Brattinella 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1854748
AuntiePam January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 Adult son and girlfriend living with mom and dad (or stepdad?) and three younger kids. Adult son breaks a car windshield with a water bottle. I don't think I've ever heard two stories that were so different from each other! "He was yelling at my son who has an anxiety disorder and was sitting in the car because we were trying to run away from the drama!" "I was reaching in the car to get my cigarettes!" His cigarettes are in his mother's car? Mom looks like Gwyneth Paltrow from Shallow Hal. (Shame on me but dammit, she does.) And that satin-jersey dress? "I paid too much to only wear it on New Year's Eve!" Okay, she didn't say that, but why else would she wear that to court? I'm really grateful that I don't live with my adult kids, and they're probably glad they don't live with me. Did NOT like the mom who dropped her nine-year-old son off to play with the plaintiff's four-year-old daughter. Mrs. Arroyo should have said no -- why would she agree? The woman wasn't her friend. Weird. JJ tried to derail the boy's rehearsed story, but the kid couldn't tell the truth to save his soul. "The cat didn't die!" 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855310
27bored January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 JJ hasn't been giving me life like it did in the past. Anyone else? The case with the chick and her dog and the other chick with her son who will soon avenge the death of Tuco and his cousins and the Salamanca name was boring. I didn't detect a strong accent, but he can't talk good. The other case with the deadbeat, aggro son and his girlfriend who looks like Peppermint Patty was also boring. I think Mama Tank Ass grafts some of her anxiety onto her son. Ain't no way in hell I would let my kid fuss and yell me up out of my damn house. That's bullshit. And, I get recreational drug use from them. There's one thing to just be an aggressive, slightly intense individual. But he seems like he has a case of stoner rage. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855336
DoctorK January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 I can't figure out why the mother of the dog-kicking cat-killing potential psychopath was always on the edge of bursting into laughter whenever the camera went to a close up shot. Really, seriously sadistic behavior toward small animals in a young kid needs professional intervention, that is often a precursor to more severe actions directed at humans later in life. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855371
SandyToes January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 DoctorK, you did see that his mom is a SCHOOL COUNSELOR, right?! OMG. We are doomed. We've got a list of drinking games, favorite sayings, and litigants we love. Do we have a list of "children who will end up in prison?" The boy may have been a little "special." But even so. Mom is at least 51% of the problem, I'm guessing. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855432
AZChristian January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 In JJ world, a "School Counselor" is usually the lady in the cafeteria who counsels the kids where to throw their trash after lunch. The same world where people who are paid minimum wage to empty bedpans and trash cans in hospitals refer to themselves as "nurses." 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855494
Milz January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 Dog-kicking kid had some sot of speech impediment. That blank expression on his face was a bit spooky. Son and girlfriend... did I imagine it or did the father say the son made the girl friend wear a dog collar and walked her around the block on a leash???? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855558
Quof January 8, 2016 Share January 8, 2016 He did indeed. Son and GF laughed and said it was not true. Judy said even if it's not true, it's not funny. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855580
BubblingKettle January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 Dog-kicking, cat-killing kid had what I call HARS --- He Ain't Right Syndrome. Speech and language disorder - definitely. Mouth breathing and vacant eyes - yes. Inability to pick up on JJ's verbal and nonverbal communication - that too. Animal cruelty and a pathway to future incarceration - No doubt. He was several shades of special, and he needs regular visits to a behavioral professional outside of school. Oh and those weirdos with the dog collar escapades.... they made me realize that I should be more tolerant of my neighbors (who are actually harmless people -- I just want their loud kids to get off my lawn. Really.) 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855946
AngelaHunter January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 (edited) Crazy school counselor(!!!) with future serial killer son, the house of horrors with Jabba the Mom and her violent, grinning-like-a-lunatic son with doggie girlfriend... I just can't. This freak show - unlike so many others we've seen - was not entertaining. Horrific, all of it. I couldn't even feel, as I often do, "I'm just so glad that's not my life", because all these terrifying mutants are so far outside of anything in my worst nightmares or experiences that it does not compute. JFC. Edited January 9, 2016 by AngelaHunter 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1855971
SandyToes January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 AngelaHunter, I think you and 27bored both hit on what I've been feeling, too. Not so much fun (tho' the DeLorean case kinda was), but icky. I had wondered when the fall season started if we were seeing actors/stories rather than "real people!" and "real cases!" One reason I dislike parent/child cases, or those involving the elderly. I made the comment about a list of kids in jest (mostly), but isn't it sad? These are real kids, and I think in this case, whatever his troubles are, they probably aren't his fault. I always tell my future teachers to meet the parents of the kids they have the most trouble with. May not make life easier, but it often explains a whole lot. (And these aren't the parents who come to Parents' Night.) Bring on more wacky neighbors, people with magenta hair, and drunk, out-of-control roommates. Or Tupperware. I could do Tupperware. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1856030
Guest January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 Busy end of week for me so a bunch of JJs are waiting on the DVR. Thanks for mentioning the cat-killing psycho boy...that one's getting deleted. Unwatched. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1856518
Tosia January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 WOW. Just WOW. I binge watched several days worth of JJ yesterday, and so agree with Angela Hunter about the freak show families. Jabba the Mom! LOL. Definitely. Mouth-breather kid who kicks dogs and "allegedly" does not kill cats? You got it, CoolWhipLite and Milz, right on about the speech/behavior issues. Very special ed who needs or "whose needs" are going to require lots of intervention now and in the future. Let's hope he gets something significant to help him before letting him loose on rest of us in society. Looks like Byrd, and we, are going to be supporting him for a longggggg time. AZChristian got it right about Mom who was a "counselor"........playground supervision, maybe. And Sandytoes--you hit nailed it---It's the parents (95% of the time)! I am a special ed teacher and have worked in facilities with kids like dog-kicker at adolescent ages. The kids got the short stick with families of druggies, poverty, homeless, alcohol, mental health issues, abuse of all kinds, foster homes, etc. 95% of kid problems come from family issues; the rest come from genetic or random brain issues, or parents who try, but don't know how to discipline and/or deal with terrible twos through adolescent rage. Sad, but true. Finally, thanks to 27B for the Breaking Bad shout-out! Better Call Saul starts again in February--Yay, bitch. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1856754
AngelaHunter January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 Bring on more wacky neighbors, people with magenta hair, and drunk, out-of-control roommates. Or even hillbillies who eat non-fresh roadkill! Belligerent old ladies who handle neighbourhood tiffd with a baseball bat, crazy bitches who claim life-long PTSD from tripping on the stairs. Lotharios with 42 women he emails! Anything but hair-curling freaks who wouldn't be out of place in a "Chainsaw Massacre" movie. Dear god, give me Patricia Bean. I think the inappropriately grinning momma of the animal abuser is making a wise decision when she says she'll "keep him away from people." Maybe she thinks this problem is nothing major. I bet Jeffrey Dahmer's parents felt the same way. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857133
Brattinella January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 I am SO glad I missed this episode. Thanks, everyone! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857234
SandyToes January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 I think it says something when people are GLAD they missed episodes. Producers, are you listening? We want WACKY, not crazy. I mean, at least give us some interesting fashion gurus! My episode descriptions are STILL messed up, so whenever anyone gets the info on when Patricia Bean reappears please send out a red alert!! I have life. Really I do. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857258
BusyOctober January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 You all said what I was thinking re. 9yo dog kicker, cat tossing boy. That kid needs a shit ton of intervention and stat! The thing that really will seal the deal on how he ends up was his idiot mother's response to being found liable for her kid's behavior. In the hallway she just shrugged her shoulders and said something to the effect of "I'll just keep my kid with me and not let him around other people." Yeeee-ah, THAT will fix everything. Deny his needs, overlook his issues and cries for help! Make him more anti-social and isolate him as your special boy! Your Preordained Sociopath Predator's Mother of the Year Award is on it's way, Mrs. Bates. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857503
arejay January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 See, I got quite another vibe off the cat killer. His mother said he was excited that plaintiff and her FOUR YEAR OLD were home so he could play with her. Given what we heard about his animal issues, maybe it would be wise to also keep small children out of his path. Sorry if this offends anyone, but that one statement pinged my pervert radar. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857531
AngelaHunter January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 His mother said he was excited that plaintiff and her FOUR YEAR OLD were home so he could play with her. At first I thought, "What nine year old boy is so eager to play with a little four year old girl, but then when I heard him speak, I thought, "I see." I was also kind of surprised that plaintiff saw nothing unusual about that. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857557
arejay January 9, 2016 Share January 9, 2016 The little guy's "issues" mitigated my initial concern as well. Still, since we know what path is often taken by those that abuse animals, there is a chance we may hear from him again. And not in a good way. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857577
Brattinella January 10, 2016 Share January 10, 2016 Sounds like the mother has big-time problems, too. Wow, he will probably outlive you, Mom; I would be really careful what I was going to leave for posterity! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857858
Zahdii January 10, 2016 Share January 10, 2016 (edited) I doubt the kid was excited to go play at a four year old's house so much as the kids mom was excited to find someone who hadn't been warned about her little monster and would let her dump the kid on them for a while. Both mother and son would benefit from experienced counseling. Edited January 10, 2016 by Zahdii 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1857868
jilliannatalia January 10, 2016 Share January 10, 2016 (edited) [quote name="Tosia" post="1856754" timestamp= AZChristian got it right about Mom who was a "counselor"........playground supervision, maybe. And Sandytoes--you hit nailed it---It's the parents (95% of the time)! I am a special ed teacher and have worked in facilities with kids like dog-kicker at adolescent ages. The kids got the short stick with families of druggies, poverty, homeless, alcohol, mental health issues, abuse of all kinds, foster homes, etc. 95% of kid problems come from family issues; the rest come from genetic or random brain issues, or parents who try, but don't know how to discipline and/or deal with terrible twos through adolescent rage. Sad, but true. Finally, thanks to 27B for the Breaking Bad shout-out! Better Call Saul starts again in February--Yay, bitch.When I taught elementary school (from about eight years ago until about five years ago) we had a program which shall be known in this post as "Special Buddies." (It's not the actual name, but I wish not to be sued by whoever hold rights to the program. What I'm writing is true, so I'd probably prevail in any litigation, but who needs the headaches associated with being sued?)Paraprofessionals were given access to an amazingly well-stocked toy room and were assigned to play one-to-one for thirty minutes at a time with slightly troubled children whose parents consented to having their children pulled from class for half an hour for this program. The paraprofessionals had something like a week's worth of pre-service training at the beginning of each school year in addition to monthly inservice sessions. The program, which I always thought was ill-conceived in a best-case scenario and potentially disastrous at the worst, was supposedly designed to help children with minor social issues learn to play appropriately or to give a child who needed someone to talk to a chance to do so. The Special Buddies aides were taught to refer any problem on to a more fully-trained staff member whenever anything came up that was remotely beyond their scope of training. I would guess you could already anticipate most of the problems.Referrals to psychological and counseling staff soon exceeded district personnel's capacity to handle them. Special buddies aides were off the record told that there were some problems they could probably deal with by themselves. (These were employees with not necessarily any formal education beyond high school who had passed a supposed 2-year college equivalency exam that realistically was written so that a on-grade-level eighth grader could pass it.) Beyond that, some of the Special Buddies aides were already taking matters into their own hands. For example, one of them, who had a break time when I did, regularly went home each day and watched "Dr. Phil," taking notes, then tried to incorporate Dr. Phil's techniques into her job each day. The sad thing is that the would-be Dr. Phil was probably the very least of the problems associated with the program before all was said and done. I don't think the Special Buddy program exists at my old school anymore. I live a thousand miles away now, so I wouldn't know for sure. The district is lucky they were never sued over something one of the Special Buddies aides said or did.I once had to report for jury duty when I was teaching at that school. One of the Special Buddies aides also had jury duty that day . She was called to the jury box for the voir dire process before I was excused. When she was asked to state her occupation, she said that she was a school psychologist.I'm sharing this convoluted story to suggest that perhaps the mother of the animal torturer was a school counselor in the same way that my paraprofessional coworker was a school psychologist. Then again, the mother of the psycho kid may be s lunch lady, as someone else suggested. Edited January 11, 2016 by jilliannatalia 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1858206
DebbieW January 10, 2016 Share January 10, 2016 The ahole mother who said she would just keep her animal killing son away from other people also added "so they can't complain about him." She just doesn't want to hear it. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1859120
Tosia January 10, 2016 Share January 10, 2016 Oh, jillannatalia, I totally believe that situation of paras working with kids with special needs. I taught at one school, in a not poor area, wherein, the sped teacher spent her time in other classes or in meetings. Her classes were "taught" by paras with as access to a well-stocked toy closet and a few rushed directions from said teacher when they asked questions. The paras kind of took over the room and outside teachers were not welcome. Ridiculous. But it went on. I talked to the principal who said it would be different the next year, but I didnt stay to find out. Oh, jillannatalia, I totally believe that situation of paras working with kids with special needs. I taught at one school, in a not poor area, wherein, the sped teacher spent her time in other classes or in meetings. Her classes were "taught" by paras with as access to a well-stocked toy closet and a few rushed directions from said teacher when they asked questions. The paras kind of took over the room and outside teachers were not welcome. Ridiculous. But it went on. I talked to the principal who said it would be different the next year, but I didnt stay to find out. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1859310
stephinmn January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Wyld Blue Owyeung is actually his full name. His dad, Ease, is kinda famous. He was the model maker for Star Wars, ET, Indiana Jones, and some other big movies. He is in his sixties so I really have no idea how Wyld came to be...I am guessing maybe some sort of surrogacy because he was older and wanted a child? Wyld does seem attached to his dad. The dog kicking kid scared me. The plaintiff claimed to be a podiatrist, so I wondered why she was suing for such a small amount? It wouldn't likely be worth MY time to sue over 350 dollars, and I don't make anywhere near what a podiatrist earns, esp in NYC. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1860556
DebbieW January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Given the record of honesty by plaintiffs in their job descriptions, she probably gives pedicures. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1860826
Quof January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 In a strip mall. Or from the back of her car. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1860883
AngelaHunter January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 Wyld Blue Owyeung is actually his full name. His dad, Ease, is kinda famous. He was the model maker for Star Wars, ET, Indiana Jones, and some other big movies. He is in his sixties Good info. Now it allll makes sense. I guess "Wyld Blue" is lucky his last name isn't "Yonder." This is what happens when your children should be your grandchildren. You take a nap in the car at the park instead of getting out there and cycling with your overly-precocious kid. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1860950
Milz January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 This week’s JJ Monday:Case 1. Landlord V. Trashy college students. Countersuit: Trash wants security deposit back.Case 2. Ex-lover V. Two-timing Truck Driver. She borrowed him money to send him to trucking school. Tuesday:Case 1. Goonie V. Goonie: road trip to celebrate The Goonies movie turns bad.Case 2: Car V Teen Tantrum WednesdayCase 1. Crown Vic V Protection OrderCase 2. Expensive Cologne V. Expensive WatchesCase 3: Rear-ended Vehicle V Uninsured Teen ThursdayCase 1. Ex wife V Ex husband: canine custody caseCase 2. Ex Roommate V. Ex-con: Roomie suing for the rent he paid while con was in cooler. FridayCase 1. Badmouthing Mama V. Blazer stealing Tattoo Face son and wifeCase 2. Chump V. Lease and Heart Breaker. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1861108
WhineandCheez January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 (edited) Mom looks like Gwyneth Paltrow from Shallow Hal. (Shame on me but dammit, she does.) Damn you're right. Parents are all, "My son takes his girlfriend for walks on a leash. He has a violent temper. I will never let him live with us again," And son is like, "I am sure we will get thru this and have a good relationship" Well if son is a druggie he should keep it up because he was normal weight and Mom, Dad and his 2 brothers were all really obese. I was expecting the left side of the court room to tilt. Good info. Now it allll makes sense. I guess "Wyld Blue" is lucky his last name isn't "Yonder." Good catch, Ange! Edited January 11, 2016 by WhineandCheez 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1861486
teebax January 11, 2016 Share January 11, 2016 At first I though Delorean didn't want his wife to know what he paid for the car. And then I caught myself, and laughed and laughed and laughed. I'm catching up on some missed episodes and just saw this one. What do you mean by your comment? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4784-all-episodes-talk-all-rise/page/141/#findComment-1861922
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