The Other Duggars: The Lost Girls and Amy

[riverblue22]

4 minutes ago, wilsie said:

I know this is a place to vent about the Duggars but Josie has become a running joke.  We've seen that she has had seizures and might have other unaddressed health problems.  This poor child is the product of two very selfish and proudly uneducated people who went for numbers instead of nurturing the children they have in their care.  No one has taken the time to teach this child manners.   

The future might be worse for the lost girls.  Jana, Jill, and Jessa had to raise their siblings.  Josie and Jordan and the rest will be raising the children of multiple siblings.  The more of the older kids that marry, the more babies there will be for the Littles to wrangle.  Maybe it's a good thing no one seems interested in marrying the boys.  Jim Bob may also conveniently not be able to find spouses for the youngest girls so they stay at home and care for their parents.

[Arwen Evenstar]

6 minutes ago, wilsie said:

I know this is a place to vent about the Duggars but Josie has become a running joke.  We've seen that she has had seizures and might have other unaddressed health problems.  This poor child is the product of two very selfish and proudly uneducated people who went for numbers instead of nurturing the children they have in their care.  No one has taken the time to teach this child manners.   

ITA...going for numbers means less time to work with each child and teach them manners or keep them up to speed and get them the help he/she needs. You may be new here, but we all are so pissed off that poor Josie is suffering as a result of her proud to be uneducated parents.

They show her licking surfaces, her food, and eating food that should be handled with utensils with her fingers, and they post this shit, and we snark and show exasperation with how this poor kid needs help and their denial or arrogance keeps her from getting it.  Josie is pitiable and if I could, I'd take her away from that nut house and see she gets what she needs to succeed. 

[BitterApple]

Wow, is Tyler eating? In the earlier pics I saw of him, he was a husky kid with a full face. I guess the Duggar way of foraging for scraps has melted off his baby chub.

[kokapetl]

5 hours ago, laurakaye said:

There's a Jason?  He's a cutie.

Even if every single Duggar swore a blood oath that not one of them ever drank straight from the milk jug, there is still no way I would do what cousin Oliver is doing.  I can't even imagine what type of sludge that child is consuming.

I can't believe Jason got his head through the collar of that tshirt.

[Barb23]

5 hours ago, scriggle said:

How old is James? He looks about 8.

James is 15 & Jason is 16

[kokapetl]

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/jill-jessa-counting-on/counting-on-videos/coming-up-on-counting-on/

Johannah has seen some gross things in her life. This lady must have eclipsed Josie grossie.  

[leighroda]

Is it a fresh vegetable?

[Sew Sumi]

15 minutes ago, leighroda said:

Is it a fresh vegetable?

It looked like they were tasting some samples of the Eyetalian food (wasn't it meatballs?) for Jinger's wedding. We know how well the Duggars do with anything even remotely ethnic. 

And this had to be taped a while ago. Hannie didn't have the head scabs yet. 

Also from that clip, I've never been to Pensacola, but that street the girls were walking down to establish that they were headed to the wedding dress shop was identified as being the town where JILL got her dress....in Virginia. 

[Bitter Betty]

17 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

 

James, Jason, and cousin Oliver. 

Does that top kid have a smart phone?

[Sew Sumi]

13 minutes ago, Bitter Betty said:

Does that top kid have a smart phone?

Looks like one to me. What happened to the Flip Phones of Shame? There has to be a way that internet access on those phones is locked down. Big time. Because Smuggar. 

Oh, Dillon abuses animals (he "slammed a kitten on a a table") and he's already called her a bitch and said that she has a bad temper and has hit him. This might be worth watching after all! Famy also claimed that they are "very private people." Honey, private people don't sign up for Z-list reality shows. 

[kokapetl]

28 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Looks like one to me. What happened to the Flip Phones of Shame? There has to be a way that internet access on those phones is locked down. Big time. Because Smuggar. 

Oh, Dillon abuses animals (he "slammed a kitten on a a table") and he's already called her a bitch and said that she has a bad temper and has hit him. This might be worth watching after all! Famy also claimed that they are "very private people." Honey, private people don't sign up for Z-list reality shows. 

Amy, the super cheerful, game for anything (that's being filmed) cousin, who tries to weasel her way into the main franchise as much as she can. This woman? Private?

[zenme]

Private Amy is an oxymoron. Emphasis on MORON.

[Absolom]

Holy photoshop, batman.  People still "touches up" the photos with wild abandon.

[Minivanessa]

Just now, Absolom said:

Holy photoshop, batman.  People still "touches up" the photos with wild abandon.

No lie. Good to know that I don't need weight loss, exercise, and liposuction to fix my thighs. I just need to get on the cover of People, and shazam, I'll have thighs to die for. *snert*

[Sew Sumi]

LMAO! People shaved at least 3" off each thigh. Famy is not a stick figure IRL. On tonight's show, she claimed that the tabloids "twist everything," but I bet she liked that People cover well enough. 

[Sew Sumi]

Oh, other developments, they both have potty mouths, and apparently Dill has family money. He made some remark about "his" money, as opposed to "theirs." And this money leads to Famy's apparent love of presents. Also, in their room, there were quotes that they said about each other in intake interviews. Famy actually said she doesn't want to start a family with him! Woah Nellie.  

The funniest thing that happened was when some of the cast members recognized her as a Duggar when they entered the house. Famy assured them that she's the "rebel Duggar," noting, "I WEAR PANTS!!!!" I have no clue who any of the other people are, but it looks like it's a trashy shitfest waiting to happen. I can't wait for Dillon to show his true colors and get hammered. 

[JoanArc]

Doesn't he have like 60k of debt? Maybe he could get around to paying that off.

[Sew Sumi]

They claimed that he did some months ago. I wonder if he was trying to wait out a lawsuit and there was some kind of settlement in which he didn't have to pay the full debt. He may have also gotten money from his accident, but I could be wrong. They were pretty quiet about the details of his accident other than claiming it was the other driver's fault. Can't remember if there was any mention as to whether the driver was insured or not. But if so, Dill got money; he was injured pretty badly. 

eta: Not photoshopped in this Bootcamp group pic. Intrestingly, the skinny girl in the middle would have been a few months pregnant when they shot this in April/May. Famy tagged her in a post, I looked her up, and she had a baby a couple of months ago. 

Edited January 7, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[awaken]

I see the resemblance between James and Amy in that pic!

I feel like I've never seen Jason before!  He's kind of a cross between Josiah and the more duggar-like boy twin. 

[zenme]

Yes! James, Amy, and Deanna look a lot alike.

[Almost 3000]

32 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

LMAO! People shaved at least 3" off each thigh. Famy is not a stick figure IRL. On tonight's show, she claimed that the tabloids "twist everything," but I bet she liked that People cover well enough. 

Well, I'd certainly be appreciative of professional People magazine touch ups when standing next to work out maven Kate Hudson. She also got the big picture over her and Leo. Its really amazing that even Duggar family adjacent members still sell magazines.

[Minivanessa]

33 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

Doesn't he have like 60k of debt? Maybe he could get around to paying that off.

 

25 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

They claimed that he did some months ago. I wonder if he was trying to wait out a lawsuit and there was some kind of settlement in which he didn't have to pay the full debt. He may have also gotten money from his accident, but I could be wrong. They were pretty quiet about the details of his accident other than claiming it was the other driver's fault. Can't remember if there was any mention as to whether the driver was insured or not. But if so, Dill got money; he was injured pretty badly. 

IIRC it was a big hospital bill that was the "debt" in question. And I also think it was probably part of a pending lawsuit. I'm hazy on the details, but I don't think this was some kind of non-medical bill he ran up and then walked out on. Anyway, hospital bills are notorious for being masterpieces of creative writing, with crazy inflated prices for everything, like five dollars per Tylenol pill, and they get bargained down and discounted all the time. I'm not gonna snark on the guy over a hospital bill after a car wreck, especially if there's litigation involved. OTOH, if you show me that he stiffed a contractor who worked for him, or something crass like that, then bring on the snark.

[Sew Sumi]

I agree. There's more to that story than we have been told. As I noted, I can't remember if the driver of the other vehicle had insurance, and that might have been the hold up in the hospital getting paid. All I do remember is that Famy said the bill had been paid. 

I still want to know what he meant about "his money." He said they fight about it, and his position is that it is his to do with whatever he wants. 

[Sew Sumi]

I guess Marriage Bootcamp financed that huge LV bag? This is one time that it's worth reading the comments, since she blatantly asked for her fans' opinions of the show. They haven't been kind.

[louannems]

The skinny, photoshopped thighs photo is nearly a year old. She was thinner when she first married but she quickly developed more curves.  In the last picture, in the sleeveless dress, she looks matronly.

[Sew Sumi]

She's always been a slight pear shape; her thighs have NEVER been that thin. She posted enough bikini pics from her honeymoon to illustrate the difference between her real shape and the People cover. She's always had some booty and thighs. The People cover was definitely retouched.

I was built exactly like her at her age. Not fat by any means; short like Famy (actually even a tad shorter), I weighed mayb 105. At 5'2", I'd say she was around 110 on her honeymoon. Not fat, but not bird-like like Jinger or that cover either.

[Tabbygirl521]

Why would anyone stay married to an asshole who slammed a kitten? (I can hardly stand to type that.) If that happened in my sphere, someone would be sporting a cast-iron-frypan-shaped dent in his skull. 

[BitterApple]

DUI Dill seems like a nasty control freak. Why the hell did Amy marry him? Is putting up with a drunken animal abuser so much better than working for a living? 

[Sew Sumi]

4 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

DUI Dill seems like a nasty control freak. Why the hell did Amy marry him? Is putting up with a drunken animal abuser so much better than working for a living? 

Famy knew him for years before they got married. I imagine she had a pretty good idea about his monetary situation. It appeared that most of her little gang was allergic to work. Even now, Dillon's business seems like a part-tine venture. He's not making money selling jacked up water bottles or the occasional painted motorcycle. He spent most of his time tricking up his truck for that show in Vegas that caused Famy to miss Jinger's wedding. 

[crazycatlady58]

25 minutes ago, Tabbygirl521 said:

Why would anyone stay married to an asshole who slammed a kitten? (I can hardly stand to type that.) If that happened in my sphere, someone would be sporting a cast-iron-frypan-shaped dent in his skull. 

I thought the same thing. No way would I say with someone who mistreated an animal. Just would not happen.

[queenanne]

6 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Famy knew him for years before they got married. I imagine she had a pretty good idea about his monetary situation. It appeared that most of her little gang was allergic to work. Even now, Dillon's business seems like a part-tine venture. He's not making money selling jacked up water bottles or the occasional painted motorcycle. He spent most of his time tricking up his truck for that show in Vegas that caused Famy to miss Jinger's wedding. 

Famy doesn't seem like a person who'd get married with a lot of forethought, which in fact explains the need to go on such a show.  They may have deep flaws, but the Duggars at least do seem to understand that the purpose of marriage is to form a lifetime bond with someone.  I agree that Famy seems more like the person who'd do it for the lark, the presents, and to escape having to work for a living.  I mean... how long have they been married?  Maybe I'd understand needing "boot camp" if this was 5/7 years, but I feel like they're practically newlyweds, which doesn't bode well.

[Churchhoney]

15 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Looks like one to me. What happened to the Flip Phones of Shame? There has to be a way that internet access on those phones is locked down. Big time. Because Smuggar. 

Oh, Dillon abuses animals (he "slammed a kitten on a a table") and he's already called her a bitch and said that she has a bad temper and has hit him. This might be worth watching after all! Famy also claimed that they are "very private people." Honey, private people don't sign up for Z-list reality shows. 

She probably said it regretfully, comparing herself to her more TV-exposed cousins, aunt and uncle who, dammit, Don't have to be so private! They have a whole show and I don't get to be on it! Curses!

[RazzleberryPie]

19 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/jill-jessa-counting-on/counting-on-videos/coming-up-on-counting-on/

Johannah has seen some gross things in her life. This lady must have eclipsed Josie grossie.  

Jinger looks 35 in those pics. Does she have an earring disorder? Seriously that's the skin of someone 15 years older. 

[Churchhoney]

14 hours ago, Absolom said:

Holy photoshop, batman.  People still "touches up" the photos with wild abandon.

Kinda makes me want to get a People cover. You, too, can look like the young Angelina Jolie.

[BitterApple]

5 minutes ago, RazzleberryPie said:

Jinger looks 35 in those pics. Does she have an earring disorder? Seriously that's the skin of someone 15 years older. 

It wouldn't surprise me if she did. In addition to her skin, her hair has thinned out and looks brittle, which is a strong indication she isn't getting enough nutrients.

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

DUI Dill seems like a nasty control freak. Why the hell did Amy marry him? Is putting up with a drunken animal abuser so much better than working for a living? 

Well, guess she has to do something to proves that she actually is a rebel Duggar and not just some Duggar-adjacent wannabe. And this preference for anything-but-an-actual-job goes some way toward proving it.

[RazzleberryPie]

1 minute ago, BitterApple said:

It wouldn't surprise me if she did. In addition to her skin, her hair has thinned out and looks brittle, which is a strong indication she isn't getting enough nutrients.

Plus she has that lollipop head look a lot. She looks underweight for her frame mod that if the time. I don't think she looks petite, just way underweight, if that makes sense. She should be short but normal sized, so it doesn't look natural. 

[Sew Sumi]

18 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

It wouldn't surprise me if she did. In addition to her skin, her hair has thinned out and looks brittle, which is a strong indication she isn't getting enough nutrients.

She has a Duggar Head, so it's really hard to judge if she's another Nancy Reagan, who was stick thin and lived to a ripe old age, or has a real disorder. I think her hair issues have more to do with her overuse of a cheap flat iron or barrel curler than an eating disorder. I think the girl actually started eating MORE after she got together with Jeremy. She looked deathly thin in the months after Jessa got married, but has either learned to conceal it bette,r or she's actually gained a few pounds. She's always worn sweaters which could hide her stick thin arms, but it's hard to see the rest of her, since she tends to envelop herself in maxi skirts most of the time. 

Special mention to the poster who wrote the typo "earring disorder" captioning a picture in which Jinger is wearing chandelier earrings. Kudos! 

Edited January 7, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[GeeGolly]

Amy pregnant? A quick look through her Instagram - maybe so.

[Christina87]

2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

It wouldn't surprise me if she did. In addition to her skin, her hair has thinned out and looks brittle, which is a strong indication she isn't getting enough nutrients.

I wonder what the older girls eat at the TTH. The family's diet seems to only consist of ultra-processed foods, and I know I would be big as a house if I ate that crap daily. I wonder if most of the sisters have great metabolisms, but maybe a few have to drastically cut their portion sizes of nutrient-bereft foods just to stay slim. Eating a half serving of tater tot casserole or a quarter cup of that godawful chickenetti is damn near starving. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Probably the taste for pickles and vinegar helps as well. Apple cider vinegar is known for its slimming and metabolism boosting properties.  Pickles also help maintain the Fundy Face of Disapproval since sour foods promote scowling.  I hate pickles...always have..I take my apple cider vinegar in tablets.

[RazzleberryPie]

I think a lot of them live on lattes. Lots of sugar and caffeine. 

[Sew Sumi]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Amy pregnant? A quick look through her Instagram - maybe so.

Nah, she has just gained weight. She gains exactly the same way I do, and her Duggar Head does her no favors. She would never dress in such tight clothes if she didn't think she looked smoking hot. 

As for the Duggar girls and lattes, maybe Jinger. But there's no sugar in lattes unless you add it. My 16 oz. grande at Starbucks is just 120 calories, and most of that is the (nonfat) milk. Yes, lactose is a sugar, but it's not a refined sugar, like the processed crap you find in TTC or chickenetti. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

3 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Probably the taste for pickles and vinegar helps as well. Apple cider vinegar is known for its slimming and metabolism boosting properties.  Pickles also help maintain the Fundy Face of Disapproval since sour foods promote scowling.  I hate pickles...always have..I take my apple cider vinegar in tablets.

Off topic, but do the tablets do much? I bought some apple cider vinegar a little while ago, but have not been very good about taking it consistently since I'm not really a fan of any sort of vinegar. If I thought I could get the benefits from tablets I'd try it..

[Arwen Evenstar]

36 minutes ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Off topic, but do the tablets do much? I bought some apple cider vinegar a little while ago, but have not been very good about taking it consistently since I'm not really a fan of any sort of vinegar. If I thought I could get the benefits from tablets I'd try it..

I find them helpful, but I don't take them  consistently enough right now. But it would be the only way I could tolerate vinegar.

[kokapetl]

Amy's catchphrase for the show is "You're the biggest dick. I don't know if you're the one for me". 

[Arwen Evenstar]

3 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

Amy's catchphrase for the show is "You're the biggest dick. I don't know if you're the one for me". 

Too funny. You've gotta looooooove editing!

[Sew Sumi]

Looks like the critics who are rightly telling Famy that she went on that (totally fake) show for money and fame are getting to her. She's another one who should turn off the comments or stop reading them, but she just can't. Note to Famy: criticism isn't negativity, it's meant to HELP you! 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Gee, Famy, if you don't want this sort of judgment, then don't put your private life out there for consumption. It's THAT simple, really it is.

[Sew Sumi]

Right? And this is the woman who claims to be a "private person." #irony