redlaces January 2, 2016 Share January 2, 2016 It's like I'm watching a room full of George Carlin's.. Fucking genius. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1840270
GeeGolly January 2, 2016 Share January 2, 2016 (edited) Do you all think Anna & Josh are assholes when they're cranky? ETA - I hope this ambiguous post didn't stop people in it tracks. I just had to. Edited January 3, 2016 by GeeGolly 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1840345
RazzleberryPie January 3, 2016 Share January 3, 2016 Which came first, the parental obsession about sex and prevention thereof except in marriage or the firstborn's molestation of his siblings? It seems most likely to me that Josh is the result, not the cause, of all the Duggar weirdness about sexuality. JMO. Good question. I honestly think that the obsession with Nike and modesty came after Josh's first molestation, and that the parental obsession with sex really didn't surface, at least on the 19 Kids Shows, until the girls became courting age and were marketing that dating advice books. I absolutely do not think Josh being taught to wait until marriage for sex or not giving him access to porn or teen sex caused him to molest his sisters. I think he's just a perverted creep trying to get away with whatever he could. Premarital sex was not the norm in most cultures for thousands of years, and neither was mainstream, easily accessible porn, yet people weren't feeling up their child siblings as a routine part of daily life. Josh is just a deviant. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1840778
GeeGolly January 3, 2016 Share January 3, 2016 Which came first, the parental obsession about sex and prevention thereof except in marriage or the firstborn's molestation of his siblings? It seems most likely to me that Josh is the result, not the cause, of all the Duggar weirdness about sexuality. JMO. It's a Gothard thing. And I agree that it certainly contributed to Joshes effed-uppedness. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1841060
GeeGolly January 3, 2016 Share January 3, 2016 Duggarland upbringing, however, was never restricted merely to unrelenting warnings to participate in 'only marital sex'. These parents seem to have had an obsession about sex and prevention thereof unless in the marital bedroom. Proudly boasting ON TV of a maternal ovulation calendar on full display and thinking it's somehow 'cute' that the daughters 'watch it like hawks!' goes far beyond the usual religious 'Thou shall not commit adultery'. Dim Jim's apparent sexualization of everything screams loudly, especially when he finds it funny to, in public and ON CAMERA, remind his engaged offspring, 'heh, heh, heh, you can't do THIS yet!' as he assumes a sexually-charged position with his wife at a family-friendly venue like mini golf in a way he'd consider sinful if non believers performed similarly in public. Well said. And lets not forget that just because pre-marital sex was not the culture back in the day, it still happened. Many a first born were 8lb preemies. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1841179
kaleidoscope January 3, 2016 Share January 3, 2016 I've been thinking about the plane trips to Rockford. Is it possible that the first flight was to visit (small family group) and leave Anna there for a few days, and the second flight was to bring her back to the compound? I cringe at the thought of M5 on the way. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1841186
JenCarroll January 3, 2016 Share January 3, 2016 Dim Jim's apparent sexualization of everything screams loudly, especially when he finds it funny to, in public and ON CAMERA, remind his engaged offspring, 'heh, heh, heh, you can't do THIS yet!' as he assumes a sexually-charged position with his wife at a family-friendly venue like mini golf in a way he'd consider sinful if non believers performed similarly in public. If non-believers did it, it would be sinful. If the Duggars do it, it's both wholesome and pious. I think that pretty much sums up their view of themselves. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1841187
Chicklet January 3, 2016 Share January 3, 2016 The Duggars have warped, or are trying to, their religion. So yea do as I say, not as I do so just forget about that stuff you heard Joshy did or when you saw us humping at the local puttputt. And in their minds they are "pre-forgiven" no matter what they do. Again warped to hell and back. I don't think Jesus had this definition in mind back in the day. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1841219
Sew Sumi January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 The plane made a Springdale/Rockford round trip today. Given the weird one-hour stopover earlier this week, did they really let Smuggles spring the pop stand for a few days with the promise of a prompt return? Oddly, the plane was down in Rockford for most of the day today; did the Duggars stick around for the evening service before jetting out? So many questions... This could also be flying the lawyer up to meet with Smugs, but not for three days. This one had to possibly be the weekend visit Anna is allowed every 45 days (with brief family exceptions given for Christmas)? I would use the word quickie there, but I don't think they allow conjugal visits, especially to a supposed sex addict. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842618
Muffyn January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 The plane made a Springdale/Rockford round trip today. Given the weird one-hour stopover earlier this week, did they really let Smuggles spring the pop stand for a few days with the promise of a prompt return? Oddly, the plane was down in Rockford for most of the day today; did the Duggars stick around for the evening service before jetting out? So many questions... This could also be flying the lawyer up to meet with Smugs, but not for three days. This one had to possibly be the weekend visit Anna is allowed every 45 days (with brief family exceptions given for Christmas)? I would use the word quickie there, but I don't think they allow conjugal visits, especially to a supposed sex addict. Just like all sins are the same to them, all addictions are the same too. So being a sex addict doesn't warrant any different treatment than any other kind of addiction. As long as he's right with God, he's cured. Hallelujah! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842635
Tabbygirl521 January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I wonder if the wardens...er, counselors at Jesus Jail would dare interfere with a headship's marital "rights." Maybe it is part of the cure for the sinner to have an encounter with his lawful spouse, to dispel the demons. Because that totally works. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842641
Sew Sumi January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Sex usually isn't permitted in rehabs when spouses visit. I don't see how Jesus Jail would be more LENIENT in this regard! LOL After I hit enter, I also realized that Smugs is about 45 days away from release, so this could have been Anna's official long-weekend visit, giving her two visits in one week. It still doesn't explain the weird flight on the 29th, unless it just quickly dropped her off and left. I guess it would make sense to pick her back up on a Sunday. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842651
Tabbygirl521 January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Sex usually isn't permitted in rehabs when spouses visit. I don't see how Jesus Jail would be more LENIENT in this regard! LOL After I hit enter, I also realized that Smugs is about 45 days away from release, so this could have been Anna's official long-weekend visit, giving her two visits in one week. It still doesn't explain the weird flight on the 29th, unless it just quickly dropped her off and left. I guess it would make sense to pick her back up on a Sunday. Yeah, but this isn't a real rehab so you never know. And these freaks seem so fixated on marital sex and being constantly available and all all that creepy stuff that I wonder if ANYONE can tell the guy that he can't have sex with his spouse. Since they seem to be all about magic cures, maybe they hustle to get spouses back in the sack. Or not. Am just morbidly curious. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842667
Sew Sumi January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I wish someone had the cajones to ask Cisco about conjugal visits! You'd get your ass thrown off the chat so fast your head would spin. LOL 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842682
Micks Picks January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 So I guess if your problem was booze you could go to a bar then. Drugs, a pill factory. Cisco, a buffet. I can't even picture sex with Smugger, not that I try very hard. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842731
JenCarroll January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 So I guess if your problem was booze you could go to a bar then. Drugs, a pill factory. Cisco, a buffet. Well, Cisco presumably is still allowed to eat regular meals. You can't actually give up food altogether. It might be the same with marital sex. In their view, it's probably not sex that's the problem; it's extra-marital sex, and pornography. So I'm thinking conjugal visits: A-okay! Aaand now I want to know if Anna is stupid enough to want to get pregnant right now. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842846
CofCinci January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Speaking of sex with Josh, did those prostitutes ever reveal how much Josh paid them? I hate to admit that I'm curious about that... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842848
Popular Post Kellyee January 4, 2016 Popular Post Share January 4, 2016 After looking over the Web site for the "rehab", I must say that Josh is pretty smart. He ducked out of life, doesn't have to help take care of his 4 kids or deal with his angry and upset wife, gets to just study the Bible without being confronted by a qualified counselor about his bullshit choices, and at the end of it, everyone is supposed to forgive him because he "graduated" and "developed a more personal relationship with Jesus". If you're looking to avoid responsibility for the mess you've created, this is an awesome plan. Meanwhile, Anna is living with her in-laws and caring for 4 kids. And mourning what she thought was a good marriage, after doing everything right and having it all go completely wrong. And she won't even get a "graduation" at the end of it. 27 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842858
Sew Sumi January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Well, Cisco presumably is still allowed to eat regular meals. You can't actually give up food altogether. It might be the same with marital sex. In their view, it's probably not sex that's the problem; it's extra-marital sex, and pornography. So I'm thinking conjugal visits: A-okay! Aaand now I want to know if Anna is stupid enough to want to get pregnant right now. To the last: yes. It's how she thinks she can hold him, despite all the evidence to the contrary. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842896
Lemur January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Wait a minute here, the possible criminal charges would be in PA? Does this mean it is in the realm of possibility that Josh could be sharing a cell with Bill Cosby if both were to be convicted? I honestly don't know, as I've remained remarkable ignorant of the PA correctional system (largely through force of will). Cosby is being charged in Montgomery County, which is just north of Philadelphia, where Josh's alleged assaults occurred. I don't know if anyone convicted would do time in state or county facilities. (Slight diversion, I grew up around the way from the Cosby house. For shits and giggles, we used to pool hop at his house in the summer because there was no perimeter fence and rarely anyone home. A couple of times, we'd see the old man himself home and not even try. Can't help but wonder now what was going on those times.) 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1842982
NEGirl January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 (edited) I worked in the criminal justice field for many years(no I am not a police officer). In terms of the possible charges against Smuggars, the charges would be a mismd. charge from what I have read and any jail time would be in a county jail. Bill Cosby has been charged with a felony charge which, if found guilty, could result in state prison. The Judge/Prosecutor will take in effect the persons prior record and the seriousness of the charges before sentencing. Same goes if a plea agreement is reached. This case is probably a long way off from being settled. There will more than likely be numerous Pre-Trial Conferences/court appearances before it is settled. Edited January 4, 2016 by NEGirl 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1843224
kokapetl January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Isn't this a civil lawsuit? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1843250
JoanArc January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Speaking of sex with Josh, did those prostitutes ever reveal how much Josh paid them? I hate to admit that I'm curious about that... I think it was $1500 or $2000. He didn't pay her all the money the first time, I think. God knows how much went to alcohol, strip clubs, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if Josh spent most of his fortune on side pussy. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1843265
NEGirl January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Oops, as per Josh, yes I believe it is. I was just answering the jail time question. I should have been more specific-sorry. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1843278
Lemur January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Isn't this a civil lawsuit? "'Anything that he says in a deposition for the civil case has the potential to be used against him and police could open a criminal investigation,' Philadelphia criminal defense attorney Lloyd Long III, who doesn’t represent Josh or married mother-of-two Danica (whose real name is Ashley Stamm-Northup), tells the mag. The most likely crimes Josh could be charged with range from misdemeanor simple assault, which carries a maximum sentence of one to two years, or felony aggravated assault, which carries a 10-year to 20-year maximum sentence." Source: http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/duggar-family-civil-lawsuit-prison-josh-85510 If you look at the Cosby prosecution, a lot of it is being based on the 2005 civil suit disposition he gave. There are some interesting political aspects to that case as well that simply aren't present in the Duggar case though, as in the DA did not run on the promise to prosecute Josh Duggar. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1843319
bigskygirl January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Reminder: This is the Josh and Anna thread. Leave the Josh and Bill Cosby discussion at the door or take it somewhere else. The Cosby situation is not related to what is going on with Josh. Posts will be hidden or deleted in the future if the discussion continues. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1843628
Muffyn January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 (edited) So I guess if your problem was booze you could go to a bar then. Drugs, a pill factory. Cisco, a buffet. I can't even picture sex with Smugger, not that I try very hard. Even thinking about thinking about sex with Smuggar brought back the thought of horrors I have seen in my life. The term horrors reminded me of one of my favorite sections of dialog from Addams Family Values: [at the police station after asking to arrest Debbie]Gomez: [shouting] Has the planet gone mad? My brother, passion's hostage. I seek justice - denied! I shall not submit! I shall conquer! I shall rise! My name is Gomez Addams, and I have seen evil! [Grandma waves Pubert in the air] Gomez: I have seen horror! [Lurch waves] Gomez: I have seen the unholy maggots which feast in the dark recesses of the human soul! Morticia: They're at camp. Gomez: I have seen all this, officer. But until today, I had never seen... *you*! Desk sergeant: Hook him, book him, cook him. *Now*! Because yes, I have seen evil, I have seen horror, I have seen the unholy maggots which feast in the dark recesses of the human soul and yet collectively they are less horrifying than the thought of sex with Smuggar. JT may have brought sexy back. Smuggar made it run far, far away, never to show itself again. Edited January 4, 2016 by Muffyn 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844010
FakeJoshDuggar January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I just read that Josh's lawyer is seeking to have the case dismissed. That way there will be no deposition. I may be wrong, but I think it admitted that money for sex, indeed, changed hands. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844090
Wellfleet January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 Well, Cisco presumably is still allowed to eat regular meals. You can't actually give up food altogether. It might be the same with marital sex. In their view, it's probably not sex that's the problem; it's extra-marital sex, and pornography. So I'm thinking conjugal visits: A-okay! Aaand now I want to know if Anna is stupid enough to want to get pregnant right now. Good question. I do think Boob and Me-chelle have made themselves more than clear on what THEY think should happen. But I'm guessing there's probably a voice on each of Anna's shoulders right now and she's hearing everything from "Don't let's this fat pasty load anywhere near you, Anna..." to "A baby is just what's needed now to heal our marriage and take the pain away..." from the both of them, at intervals. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844149
kokapetl January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I don't think either Ms Dillon or Mr Smuggar will admit to selling or buying sex, I think it's unlawful for either to sell or buy it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844162
GeeGolly January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I don't think either Ms Dillon or Mr Smuggar will admit to selling or buying sex, I think it's unlawful for either to sell or buy it. It is a crime, (except in Nevada, I think), yet it is rarely prosecuted. Even if Josh admits it in the civil suit and then criminal charges do happen, it's unlikely he would serve any jail time even if found guilty. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844221
kokapetl January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I don't think it benefits either of them for either of them to say it was prostitution, I'm guessing their lawyers will keep that in mind. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844228
Vaysh January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 It is a crime, (except in Nevada, I think), yet it is rarely prosecuted. Even if Josh admits it in the civil suit and then criminal charges do happen, it's unlikely he would serve any jail time even if found guilty. What is the punishment for buying/selling sex in the US? I'm assuming jail time is out of the question but what would it be if Josh was prosecuted and found guilty? A fine? Community service? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844290
GeeGolly January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 What is the punishment for buying/selling sex in the US? I'm assuming jail time is out of the question but what would it be if Josh was prosecuted and found guilty? A fine? Community service? According to this site: http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/state-crime/pandering-laws-pennsylvania.htm In Pennsylvania it is: Prostitution and patronizing are punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,500. Subsequent offenses are punishable by up to five years’ imprisonment and a fine of up to $10,000. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844411
Sew Sumi January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 I posted the latest legal wrangling in the Media thread as well as information regarding Smuggle's lawyer. I can't find anything that labels him a fundie, which is odd for them. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844572
Vaysh January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 In Pennsylvania it is: Prostitution and patronizing are punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,500. Subsequent offenses are punishable by up to five years’ imprisonment and a fine of up to $10,000. Wow. I didn't realise prostitution was a crime worthy of actual imprisonment. And up to five years? Weird. However much of a creep I think Josh is I don't think he deserves jail time for buying sexual services. The molestations on the other hand... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844599
JoanArc January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 I posted the latest legal wrangling in the Media thread as well as information regarding Smuggle's lawyer. I can't find anything that labels him a fundie, which is odd for them. C'mon, God's God, but there's a half mil on the line. Jim Bob would fellate the devil to make all of this go away. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844752
Muffyn January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 (edited) Next TLC special: Jim Bob fellating the devil then explaining why it was a godly act while Michelle beams at him and wipes devil spunk off his face. As always, I'll let myself out. Edited January 5, 2016 by Muffyn 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844788
Sew Sumi January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 The latest salvo from Smuggar's lawyer cross-posted from the Media thread. http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Motion-to-Dismiss-signed.pdf 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844824
Churchhoney January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 Wow. I didn't realise prostitution was a crime worthy of actual imprisonment. And up to five years? Weird. However much of a creep I think Josh is I don't think he deserves jail time for buying sexual services. The molestations on the other hand... Despite that kind of law being on the books, it works out okay for the men. In America we like to fulminate about how horrible sex as a commodity is. But we hardly ever punish the men who buy it. .... The women who sell it are a bit of a different story, though. We're scared to death of sex without a godly context, we're hypocritical as hell, and we also think that women are lesser beings who are likely the cause of all our troubles. You'd almost think JIm Bob Duggar founded this country. 22 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844970
MarysWetBar January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 Next TLC special: Jim Bib fellating the devil then explaining why it was a godly act while Michelle beams at him and wies devil spunk off his face. As always, I'll let myself out. Good God, girl. I'm dyyyyying here. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1844973
Arwen Evenstar January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 Next TLC special: Jim Bob fellating the devil then explaining why it was a godly act while Michelle beams at him and wipes devil spunk off his face. As always, I'll let myself out. Jayzus have mercy! I'm glad I wasn't eating or drinking anything when I read that...it would have come up thru my nose! Muffyn....YOU ROCK!!! I'm sure any time you felt you needed for your pennance in the Prayer Closet for that post was well worth it... Just one question...will this be in the new revision of the Wisdom Booklets? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845103
pinkie January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 (edited) muffyn - lol lol, re: the "horror" & Josh...that was a brilliant description, & how true, lol! Edited January 5, 2016 by pinkie 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845166
Sew Sumi January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 Wow. I didn't realise prostitution was a crime worthy of actual imprisonment. And up to five years? Weird. However much of a creep I think Josh is I don't think he deserves jail time for buying sexual services. The molestations on the other hand... PA is an odd state. They are definitely trying the "she asked for it!!!!!111" defense. Not sure how that will fly in what appears to be suburban Philly; I think that's a pretty purple area politically. Not sure that Smuggar's team would ever want to go to trial there; too many working women who value THEIR rights, like the defense lawyer touts for his own clients. This posturing will probably get Danica to lower her price, but let's see if she cowers and ends up settling. I guess that depends on whether Team Duggar offers her $1 or some amount a bit more substantive that she could live with. We all know that you always ask for an amount you know you can never get and negotiate down from there. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845257
flyingdi January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 PA is a mostly conservative state whose two biggest cities, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, happen to be liberal. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845280
Sew Sumi January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 True, but the Philly burbs are pretty purple and went for Obama in both elections, IIRC. I'm just saying that in those areas, a woman stands a chance of being respected. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845307
kandinski January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 So how long until they announce the "band aid baby",the sweet blessing that magically makes all the mess go away? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845553
Lemur January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 Most places choose not to prosecute Johns as they aren't paying for the sex act, they are paying for the time spent with the escort. The sex is a supposedly consensual, non-paid act between two adults. You have to be caught offering money in exchange for a sex act to be prosecuted. If that evidence is not obtainable, the crime is largely unprosecutable. Moving on to the latest motion, y'all missed the best part of the whole thing: "Under Pennsylvania law, liability for intentional infliction of emotional distress has only been found in cases where the conduct has been so outrageous in character, so extreme in degree, as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency, and to be regarded as atrocious, and utterly intolerable in a civilized community." Two things come to mind, are we talking Josh's character? TV Josh's character? Or the general societal standard? Also, does the fact that most of civilized society finds Josh Duggar's existence utterly intolerable play into this? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845734
greenturtle36 January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 Ok wait a minute here. He told Anna the encounter never happened, and that Danica Dillon is lying and "people are making things up about me" because of christian persecution bullcrap. Now, the reason for dismissing the lawsuit does not say that at all. It says that she was not injured by the contact, and that she consented to it. OK, so which is true, Josh? How can she have consented to something she's making up? How can she be "not injured by" contact that didn't happen? It either happened or it didn't, Josh. You didn't deny that it happened in the documentation submitted by your lawyers. You just lie to your wife, yet again. You shitbag. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845918
JoanArc January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 He told Anna the encounter never happened, and that Danica Dillon is lying and "people are making things up about me" because of christian persecution bullcrap. I thought he told Anna that he slept wit Danica, but it wasn't rough? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/268/#findComment-1845932
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