Season 18 Live Feed Discussion: Their Lives are Almost as Boring as Ours!

[Nashville]

Can you bake an apple pie, Polly Boy, Polly Boy?

Can you bake an apple pie, darling Polly?

He can after he has a cry

But only if Corey tells him why

He is special, and should not leave new Jersey.

[Boilergal]

Paulie is a spoiled toddler that learned that if he keeps asking he will be given whatever he wants so they don't have to listen to the pleading or temper tantrums.

Thanks for the Parenting Lesson Paulie - this is what happens when you always give in to your child.

[Callaphera]

24 minutes ago, Cosmosgravitation said:

Victor is playing a good game, but he has flaws.

1) He's a comp beast.  People are going to be targeting him very soon.  Maybe he can comp out to the end, but that almost never happens.

2) He lets Paul control all his game and social moves.  Paul wants to bro down with Paulie even though Paulie backdoored Victor? Victor is fine with that.  Paul wants to side with Natalie/Bridge to save Michelle? Victor is on board.  Paul wants to nominate Corey/Paulie? Victor is doing it.

Yeah, they always talk things over, but it always comes down to what Paul wants to do, they do, and it's always Paul that initiates their moves.  And we know from when Victor talks alone to the feeds he is 100% loyal to Paul and wants to go with him to the end, but I'm not sure if Paul feels the same - I haven't seen him declare one way or another when he's alone.  

It's amazing to think how Paul's hinky vote in week 3 has had such a huge impact on the game.  At the time I thought it was crazy, but it's really paid off for him.

Let's not forget the most important thing and the one reason why I think Victor doesn't have a shot in hell at winning this game, no matter how good he plays: he was already evicted once. Much like how a jury won't vote for someone who already won once (Dan), I don't believe they'll vote for someone who was already evicted from the house once before. I appreciate him for turning the game around and finally removing the majority alliance power but he won't win. 

[Wings]

3 minutes ago, Nashville said:

I think we may just now be getting our first glimpse at Victor's own personality.  Earlier in the season I halfway suspect Victor was displaying a "reflector"-type personality as a strategy - i.e. whenever Victor heard opinions/vocalizations from another person he reflected the same back to them, to create a sense of shared views and resultant bond.  Kinda like Gina Marie in (acck phfft) BB15, but a little more constructively deployed.  Bad luck/choice of Victor's part, though, that the first player with whom he chose to exercise this strategy was Jozea.  :P 

This does explain how Victor could so seamlessly switch from the loudmouth, bro-it-up blowhard we saw earlier in the season to the calm, rational brook-no-bullshit logician we see now.  Still not sure how the Week 2 (immediately post-Jozea/pre-eviction) behavior of Victor balances with this, though....

I agree.  The BB house sets up that dynamic in every season as they read the room, so to speak.   Throwing beads at the girls is a more recent lapse into the group think but he was immersed in bro time when the plan hatched and unsure where he stood.  Not an excuse, this is an observation.  

His skill in handling Paulie showed me confidence in taking charge of a tense situation with ease.  That is a role he may take in  RL with friends.   IQ and EQ, is nice package.   I like who I see at this point. 

[Wings]

5 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I don't believe they'll vote for someone who was already evicted from the house once before. I appreciate him for turning the game around and finally removing the majority alliance power but he won't win. 

This may be the first season where this isn't an issue.  Paulie headed the eviction choice and schedule the entire game thus far.  They all feel they have been manipulated and feel regret and maybe some shame they didn't catch this sooner. 

I don't think he will make it that far, anyway.  He has been tagged as the comp threat who will power though to the end.  And he is a likable guy, no one wants to sit next to him.

This is going to be a race between Paul and Victor after they remove Corey and Nicole and I think Paul will win that race. 

[poopchute]

Re: living at home

i didn't mean to imply that any adult child living at home is some kind of problem. Someone said Paulie is 28 and I do think that is a little weird to be living at home considering he said if you are a female living in NJ and you are single at the age of 26 there is something wrong with you.  So that doesn't really compute for me.  But I didn't mean to offend anyone living at home; I moved back home with my parents for a year when I was 24 to save up to buy a house so I understand!

[ByaNose]

I think the funniest line that Michelle had was when she told Bridgette she is nice to her some of the time. She couldn't even fake being nice. I thought I was going to like Michelle a lot because she reminded me of Nicole. As the season went on and started with that annoying crying she turned me off real fast. I was hoping they would show the fight that she and Paulie had between the rooms walls. That was pretty epic but I guess they had so much to show from the stuff before the live eviction. I can't recall a time when there was so much drama before a live eviction.

[laurakaye]

1 hour ago, TimWil said:

In the 2017 Lifetime movie Paulie, May I Sleep With Danger? Daddy Caliafiore  (Special Guest Star Scott Baio) will be seen frenching both his sons as well as Frankie. Paulie will stumble upon those two going at it hot and heavy on his way to change the bedpan of his dying aunt.

Ah, Scott Baio...how far you have fallen...having to take on the role of Daddy C.  And to think I loved you as Chachi back in the day.

36 minutes ago, Nashville said:

Can you bake an apple pie, Polly Boy, Polly Boy?

Can you bake an apple pie, darling Polly?

He can after he has a cry

But only if Corey tells him why

He is special, and should not leave new Jersey.

**standing ovation**

[Nashville]

38 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Let's not forget the most important thing and the one reason why I think Victor doesn't have a shot in hell at winning this game, no matter how good he plays: he was already evicted once. Much like how a jury won't vote for someone who already won once (Dan), I don't believe they'll vote for someone who was already evicted from the house once before. I appreciate him for turning the game around and finally removing the majority alliance power but he won't win. 

Ordinarily I would agree; this season, however, has (inadvertently, maybe?) established some conditions which might could belie the normally definitive previous eviction kiss of death:

1. Previous returning evictees regained House status by having to win a single competition; Victor had to defeat three competitors (Jozea, Bronte, Tiffany) to win his way back.  Decent argument to make to Jury: Having to compete in 3 extra comps AND score 3 extra consecutive wins more than balances the scales for 1 eviction.
2. Avoiding immediate re-eviction and, in the process, scoring an HoH win - pretty badass in the BB multiverse.
3. Scoring two near-consecutive HoHs and, in the process, putting the person who engineered your original blindside eviction OTB - definite badass.
4. (Tentative) Coming back in the House and evicting the person who got you evicted?  MAJOR badass.  BB equivalent of getting shot by an adversary, then ripping off the adversary's arm holding the gun and beating him to death with his own arm.
5. (Tentative) Not to mention being the HoH to get out the single biggest threat in the House?  Not even implying Vic did it solo - Natalie and Bridgette did most of the heavy lifting, and Bridgette paid for it with her game - but Victor was the one to finally nom Paulie, Victor won the PoV to keep Paulie OTB, and Paulie's eviction will still go down as happening under Victor's watch as HoH.

Edited August 15, 2016 by Nashville
All that, and one single stinking typo. OK, maybe two. :(

[Lady Calypso]

To nobody's surprise, Victor stuck to his guns and didn't use the veto.

I guess Production had it early to stop Paulie's harassment toward Victor. 

[Nashville]

1 minute ago, Lady Calypso said:

To nobody's surprise, Victor stuck to his guns and didn't use the veto.

I guess Production had it early to stop Paulie's harassment toward Victor. 

...and there was much rejoicing.

Now let's see how long before Paulie breaks his word about not campaigning against Corey....

[laurakaye]

1 minute ago, Nashville said:

...and there was much rejoicing.

Now let's see how long before Paulie breaks his word about not campaigning against Corey....

but...but, he cried and stuff!  His eyes got all puffy with the sads!  Corey's his, like, EVERYTHING in the house!  Paulie said he might lose on purpose so Corey can stay!!

LOLOLOLOLZZZZ

[MrHufflepuff]

Is anyone actually eating the pies?

I'm amused that they make a hamster bake pies in a house infested with ants.  

[Wings]

head banging against wall

They are going to tell both Paulie and Corey that they are not sure about who they are voting out. They want to create paranoia.  Corey was acting too comfortable and they don't want that.   Paul's plan.  

Edited August 15, 2016 by wings707

[Lady Calypso]

5 minutes ago, wings707 said:

head banging against wall

They are going to tell both Paulie and Corey that they are not sure about who they are voting out so they will campaigne all week.  They want to create paranoia.  Paul's plan.  

I didn't know how I felt about the plan until Natalie pointed out that Corey needs to be campaigning instead of just sitting back and assuming he's safe. I mean, both of them need to be campaigning. Paulie is fighting, at least, but Corey has not done one thing for his bro to stay. He knows he can't, but Corey's sitting pretty and I don't mind if they plant this paranoia. It may not work, but if it does, we might see Corey actually doing something other than cuddling with Nicole. He won three comps so far. Now he needs to make his social game better. 

[Wings]

I understand the plan but I see no point.  They want Corey to be stressed for HOH comp.  And this will do that?  I don't think so. What it could do is make Michele for ex buy into Corey's plan and like it.  Unlikely but why fuck with it,  Just enjoy the week.  

I say rip all of your envelopes open.  They seem to need something to do.   

[Katesus7]

Paulie talking about his plans to just leave if there's no RT or Buyback.  My new hope: he doesn't get the RT, and they aren't told about Buyback UNTIL they get to the jury house.  He leaves, and doesn't get to participate in the buyback :)

[Lady Calypso]

Yeah, I say let sleeping dogs lie and just enjoy the rest of the week as it is. It seems like Paulie is FINALLY accepting that he's gone. This plan is just going to mess with his head even more.

[Wings]

5 minutes ago, Katesus7 said:

 

Paulie talking about his plans to just leave if there's no RT

 

That is the idea of ripping their envelopes.  It stops the RT game.   No RT for Paulie even if he has it .  Easy.  

He won't walk no matter what happens.  He seems to think this will have impact on what I have no idea.  He just likes to lie. 

Edited August 15, 2016 by wings707

[laurakaye]

1 minute ago, Katesus7 said:

Paulie talking about his plans to just leave if there's no RT or Buyback.  My new hope: he doesn't get the RT, and they aren't told about Buyback UNTIL they get to the jury house.  He leaves, and doesn't get to participate in the buyback :)

What an insufferable crybaby.  So, what - the BB rules simply do not apply to the famous Paulie Calafiore?  I hope he gets booted, Julie opens his ticket and he has the RT, but then she tells him that since he repeatedly ignored production and refused to take his punishment, your RT is null and void.  And here comes Security to escort your scared, misogynistic ass to the Jury House.  Good luck, moron.

22 minutes ago, MrHufflepuff said:

Is anyone actually eating the pies?

I'm amused that they make a hamster bake pies in a house infested with ants.  

I would not come within 20 feet of a pie baked by that guy, after watching him sob and snot for the past several days.  

[CrazyDog]

Wow, I've missed a lot of the fun over the last couple of days....I need to do some major flashbacking to watch Paulie's freakout. I really, really want to enjoy this week, but it seems like many think the slip/slide HOH comp will be next? Corey would be a shoo in for that (I wish Vic could compete) and that makes me sad.

For some reason (many reasons, including the goat story which I will never get past), I despise Corey almost as much as Paulie. He's both boring and offensive, which is quite a feat. And his being attached to Nic and being a comp beast makes me want him out ASAP. Who would Corey target? Vic? Nat?

I want Nic on the block and soon.  I want Vic/Paul/Nat to go far. So, so close....

Michelle has been entertaining this week, but who knows which way she'll go.

I can't decide on the care package...I want both Vic and Paul safe.

And honestly, as much as Paulie leaving brings me great joy, he's such a mess that sometimes I think it would be better for them to get Corey out this week. He's pretty stable and breaking him and Nic up would also be a good move.

Edited August 15, 2016 by CrazyDog

[simplyme]

48 minutes ago, Nashville said:

Ordinarily I would agree; this season, however, has (inadvertently, maybe?) established some conditions which might could belie the normally definitive previous eviction kiss of death:

6. He's male. If he goes up against Natalie or Michelle, he wins with almost guaranteed votes from Corey, Paulie, Z, and Nicole unless he murders their puppies in front of them, and the chance that Nat or Michelle locks up all five other votes is small. I honestly don't know how he would do versus Nicole. 

To whoever said the men have been the stronger players-- This gets said a lot in Survivor, too. I'm not sure it's accurate. Casting for both shows seems to often result in groups where women who play more aggressive, overt games get sent home immediately. As a result, often women have to play a much less aggressive game just to stay in the game, and they are judged as inferior players. I'm not saying these women are fantastic (ok, most of them suuuuck), but none of them had the option of broing up. They've been taking a lot of abuse, hanging in there, flipping the script when they can, and pushing for what they think they can get. They just have to be very careful how they do it.

(Admittedly, I watch a lot more Survivor, and I'm always amused by how paranoid a lot of the men are of a women's alliance despite that very seldom occurring. But if there are more than two women talking, it seems like someone gets worried and a woman gets sent home.)

[Umbelina]

[Lady Calypso]

Paul is not doing that good a job with Paulie in regards to the plan right now. I think he's being too obvious and if he tries any harder, Paulie might become suspicious.

If they want this plan to work, all they have to do is spend more time with Paulie and ignore Nicole/Corey. Stop talking when they're in a room. Invite Paulie to meetings (like they plan). That's kind of what their plan is right now, but they also added stuff that make it too complicated. 

[Wings]

I think Paulie is suspicious and was from the start.  

[eskimo]

Sorry, I've been away all day, so has Paulie decided to bake the pies?

[gunderda]

He did at least 2 last night.

I really doubt they make him do it a lot because that would waste a lot of food.

[Maverick]

3 hours ago, poopchute said:

Why are all adult children still living at home?  Do they sleep in sleeping bags? This sounds like a made up story.

This sounds like niche porn. 

[Wings]

1 minute ago, Maverick said:

This sounds like niche porn. 

Okay.  This is hysterical.. 

[thefog]

44 minutes ago, Katesus7 said:

Paulie talking about his plans to just leave if there's no RT or Buyback.  My new hope: he doesn't get the RT, and they aren't told about Buyback UNTIL they get to the jury house.  He leaves, and doesn't get to participate in the buyback :)

Has a jury buyback been confirmed?  They already had Battle Back and RT. 

[diana]

I would love to see them rip their envelopes open since all but Paulie's and Corey's are null and void at this point anyway. BUT, I'm guessing if anyone has that bright idea, Production will probably nix it pretty quick.

34 minutes ago, CrazyDog said:

I really, really want to enjoy this week, but it seems like many think the slip/slide HOH comp will be next? Corey would be a shoo in for that (I wish Vic could compete) and that makes me sad.

I'm not so sure about that. I believe Nicole mentioned sometime yesterday to Corey that the next HOH will probably be something easy like questions. Reason being is that they will all be in their costumes (I assume they will be?). They wouldn't make them do a physical comp dressed up, would they?

[eskimo]

7 minutes ago, gunderda said:

He did at least 2 last night.

I really doubt they make him do it a lot because that would waste a lot of food.

Damn.  I was really hoping for that penalty vote. 

[gunderda]

1 minute ago, escape said:

Has a jury buyback been confirmed?  They already had Battle Back and RT. 

no - people are assuming another battle back is this friday but I think BB would advertise it as such.  As of right now they're just saying it's another special episode.

1 minute ago, diana said:

I would love to see them rip their envelopes open since all but Paulie's and Corey's are null and void at this point anyway. BUT, I'm guessing if anyone has that bright idea, Production will probably nix it pretty quick.

I'm not so sure about that. I believe Nicole mentioned sometime yesterday to Corey that the next HOH will probably be something easy like questions. Reason being is that they will all be in their costumes (I assume they will be?). They wouldn't make them do a physical comp dressed up, would they?

aw man! she's probably right.  

1 minute ago, eskimo said:

Damn.  I was really hoping for that penalty vote. 

There was a lot of fish and after the 1st pie was done, about 5 min later they wanted him to make another just as he was getting ready to work out.  He ignored them, said he wasn't doing it, then they called him to the DR multiple times and he ignored it, then lots of fish... then we come back to Corey basically telling him to quit being an a-hole and suck it up. A little bit later Paulie is back outside, his song goes off and he comes back in and makes his 2nd pie.

[laurakaye]

14 minutes ago, gunderda said:

There was a lot of fish and after the 1st pie was done, about 5 min later they wanted him to make another just as he was getting ready to work out.  He ignored them, said he wasn't doing it, then they called him to the DR multiple times and he ignored it, then lots of fish... then we come back to Corey basically telling him to quit being an a-hole and suck it up. A little bit later Paulie is back outside, his song goes off and he comes back in and makes his 2nd pie.

That's what makes his diva hissy fits all the more ridiculous...he has to BAKE A PIE.  Not kick a soccer ball until he loses toenails...bake a pie.

So how far does Production push him?  I mean, I'd want to send him to the kitchen 20 times an hour, 24 hours a day.  But he's also nuts, so....

[Brian Cronin]

22 minutes ago, escape said:

Has a jury buyback been confirmed?  They already had Battle Back and RT. 

It all depends on whether Paulie has the RT. If he does, then there's no need for anything different. If he doesn't, then they'll be a week short on the schedule, so they need to do some sort of BuyBack to get back on schedule. 

[Boilergal]

24 minutes ago, gunderda said:

no - people are assuming another battle back is this friday but I think BB would advertise it as such.  As of right now they're just saying it's another special episode.

I think BB knows now what kind of show it will be on Friday, but when they announced it on Thurs they didn't know if it would be a buy-back episode or a very special clip show, and that's why they didn't really say more than a special episode.

Since the envelopes have numbers on them and they know Corey and Paulie are up, looking strong for Paulie leaving they know exactly what Friday will be - but they can't tip us off.

[Snappy]

16 hours ago, wings707 said:

Something is going down, we have a lot of fish.  Oh goody, but I want to see it!

First of all, thank you everyone for reporting on the live feeds. I don't get them and I like knowing what's going on behind the edits. Second, being new to reading this board, I get confused with some terminology. For example, what do you mean when you say "fish" like in the above quote? Thanks again!

[Katesus7]

So whenever someone starts singing, or talking about someone who didn't sign a release, or BB needs to talk to them directly or something, the video shows a close-up of the fish tank up in the HOH bedroom, basically shutting down the feeds momentarily. 

[parisprincess]

Watching Paulie go from arrogant, "I was bred for this game" asshole to whiny, tantrum throwing toddler is glorious! He was so sure he'd win the $500,000 (with the aid of Cody and Derrick) and be remembered for his superior gameplay. He'll be remembered alright, but it will be for being a crybaby and poor sport. When people talk about who had the worst sportsmanship behavior, Paulie's name will always come up. That will be his legacy.

[poopchute]

I wonder how they will edit the pie making.  They better show him throwing a temper tantrum about it for 24 hours. If they make it look like he was cooperative I will be sad.

[MrHufflepuff]

Paulie was bred for Big Brother.  It went something like this....

28 years ago in the Calafiore household....

Mama Calafiore:  Let's have a kid.

Papa Calafiore:  Sounds good to me.

Mama Calafiore:  Maybe one day he'll grow up to--

Papa Calafiore:  Make out with me?

Mama Calafiore:  ...

Mama Calafiore:  I was gonna say play Big Brother.

Papa Calafiore:  Oh.  I guess he can do that too.

... and scene!

[backformore]

1 hour ago, simplyme said:

(Admittedly, I watch a lot more Survivor, and I'm always amused by how paranoid a lot of the men are of a women's alliance despite that very seldom occurring. But if there are more than two women talking, it seems like someone gets worried and a woman gets sent home.)

A woman's alliance on BB would work if only the women would refrain from pairing off with the guys.   Seriously, some of these women are confusing  BB with Bachelor in Paradise. 

The stuff about Paulie and his family staying in the parents' basement on weekends,  made me think about the night he slept with Paul because he didn't want to sleep alone.  So who does he cuddle with at mommy and daddy's house?

51 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

That's what makes his diva hissy fits all the more ridiculous...he has to BAKE A PIE.  Not kick a soccer ball until he loses toenails...bake a pie.

So how far does Production push him?  I mean, I'd want to send him to the kitchen 20 times an hour, 24 hours a day.  But he's also nuts, so....

Oh, it's much less than that, even - he has to put pre-made apple pie mix in a pre-made piecrust and place it in the oven.

[J.D.]

4 hours ago, TimWil said:

In the 2017 Lifetime movie Paulie, May I Sleep With Danger? Daddy Caliafiore  (Special Guest Star Scott Baio) will be seen frenching both his sons as well as Frankie. Paulie will stumble upon those two going at it hot and heavy on his way to change the bedpan of his dying aunt.

This^^^^^gave me an uncontrollable case of the giggles today at work, .... while I was expected to be real serious.  

[gunderda]

38 minutes ago, Katesus7 said:

So whenever someone starts singing, or talking about someone who didn't sign a release, or BB needs to talk to them directly or something, the video shows a close-up of the fish tank up in the HOH bedroom, basically shutting down the feeds momentarily. 

yes - although not so much for singing anymore - they just tell them to stop singing. 

And if someone hasn't signed a release then they usually just turn the feed to a different room.  

[peachmangosteen]

5 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

Here's the thing; Nicole expressed to Michelle that she was nervous about the boys getting back together. Whether she was lying to Michelle or not is up in the air.

Oh, she's lying to Michelle. Nicole is a woman hating idiot who's entire life is spent trying to get all the male attention she can. Her main goal in this game, this season and in BB16, is to be the last girl left. There's no hope for her.

4 hours ago, Cosmosgravitation said:

Victor is playing a good game, but he has flaws. . . He lets Paul control all his game and social moves.  Paul wants to bro down with Paulie even though Paulie backdoored Victor? Victor is fine with that.  Paul wants to side with Natalie/Bridge to save Michelle? Victor is on board.  Paul wants to nominate Corey/Paulie? Victor is doing it.

This. Victor hasn't made a single decision on his own all season. He was Paulie's puppet and now he's Paul's. If he was a woman there is no way in hell he'd be getting all these 'He's playing the best game!' comments.

2 hours ago, simplyme said:

To whoever said the men have been the stronger players-- This gets said a lot in Survivor, too. I'm not sure it's accurate. Casting for both shows seems to often result in groups where women who play more aggressive, overt games get sent home immediately. As a result, often women have to play a much less aggressive game just to stay in the game, and they are judged as inferior players. I'm not saying these women are fantastic (ok, most of them suuuuck), but none of them had the option of broing up. They've been taking a lot of abuse, hanging in there, flipping the script when they can, and pushing for what they think they can get. They just have to be very careful how they do it.

*round of applause*

ETA: Nicole is whining about how upset she'll be if Michelle gets the next care package. Thanks for helping me make up my mind, Nicole. BRB going to vote for Michelle for co-HOH!

Edited August 15, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[J.D.]

5 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

ETA: Nicole is whining about how upset she'll be in Michelle gets the next care package. Thanks for helping me make up my mind, Nicole. BRB going to vote for Michelle for co-HOH!

Why would she be upset when she already got one herself?  

[Marie80]

9 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

ETA: Nicole is whining about how upset she'll be if Michelle gets the next care package. Thanks for helping me make up my mind, Nicole. BRB going to vote for Michelle for co-HOH!

Dammit, and I already used up my votes for today on freaking Paul.

[Wings]

1 hour ago, gunderda said:

no - people are assuming another battle back is this friday but I think BB would advertise it as such.  As of right now they're just saying it's another special episode.

They would only have a battle back if the RT was not used.  They cannot advertise it because it would expose the RT being used.  So Friday is either battle back or the filler show they had planned in the event the RT was not used.  

I think it is time to show some jury house footage so there will probably be a clip of that BBack or not. 

[jumper sage]

3 hours ago, wings707 said:

This is going to be a race between Paul and Victor after they remove Corey and Nicole and I think Paul will win that race. 

I watched the Rob show and his guest was Derreck.  Fascinating!  Derreck really is a student of the game and a good officer.  When asked if he coached Paulie he said he talked to him for an hour on the phone but obviously Paulie did not take his advice. Lol.  He thinks a girl will win and he is leaning towards Michelle (NONONONO).  His rehashing of Victoria was very interesting.  He even polled the jury post-game.

[peachmangosteen]

9 minutes ago, J.D. said:

Why would she be upset when she already got one herself?  

It's Nicole so.

But wait ... Victor said it would be hilarious if Nicole won HoH and then he got something from a care package that let him nominate Corey. So maybe I should in fact be voting for Victor.