"The View": Week of 5/23/16

[Bronzedog]

I felt sorry for Michele because when they were waiting for the Karaoke winner t.o be announced  she looked defeated, like she knew they weren't going to choose her.  I think she was genuinely surprised when they did. I know it was a minor thing, but, I think it must weigh on her that her appearances have been reduced to once or twice a week and all the spare cohosts are brought in when she's probably available.  I haven't been her biggest fan, but, I think she's been dismissed and treated poorly.  Sort of like Rosie Perez.

[Celia Rubenstein]

I didn't care for Rosie P, but I agree she got poor treatment.  And Michelle Collins has been treated badly, too.  Her shoehorning in bad jokes annoyed me, but she was getting better.  Just really starting to hit her stride.  She brought a different perspective to the table, one they desperately need - a semi-moderate in a sea of extremists.  I guess being reasonable doesn't make enough sparks or something. 

With all the people leaving, I can't believe Whoopi is sticking around.  She's worse than a hair in a biscuit.  You just can't get rid of her.  

[Bronzedog]

Whoopie could also be compared to glitter.  That shit sticks around no matter how badly you want it gone.

[Vinyasa]

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And Michelle Collins has been treated badly, too.  Her shoehorning in bad jokes annoyed me, but she was getting better.  Just really starting to hit her stride.  She brought a different perspective to the table, one they desperately need - a semi-moderate in a sea of extremists.  I guess being reasonable doesn't make enough sparks or something. 

Oh I so agree. I do think Michelle had potential and I did like that she wasn't "physically perfect". She was not given a fair chance considering I had no idea who she was before The View.

 I did not need to see CCB's DWTS pic and know that she is now eight pounds more. UGH!

And just what is airhead Sara Haines going to add?

[gatopretoNYC]

5 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

I hate Stacy London.  If she's such a fashion maven, why does she always look like shit?

What the hell was that CRAP she was wearing? Plain, boring, shapeless - and she's advising others on what to wear?! I don't get it.

5 hours ago, pachebo said:

Who wants to bet that Whoopi, when her pay cut kicks in, extends her bellowing "welcome to the view" to fill the entire first segment? (I love Joy's stone face when Miss W is chanting). 

I hate that so much. I'm usually rushing to lower the volume, and rolling my eyes when she does that, so I'll have to look for Joy's stone face.

4 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

The commercial breaks have been five minutes long since before The Year of Barbara.  How do I know?  My remote has a five minute jump forward button and it's perfect timing on The Spew.   I'd say the average full show is about 35 minutes. 

I usually watch online, and it's listed as just under 36 minutes. So that's, what, 7 minutes less than a normal one hour show? Take into account the filler and shilling, and the show is probably just a half hour.

[backformore]

1 hour ago, Bronzedog said:

Whoopie could also be compared to glitter.  That shit sticks around no matter how badly you want it gone.

Glitter?   nah, More like dog shit on your shoe.  You keep scraping it off, but it seeps in, and eventually the only solution is to get new shoes.

[SunFun]

One comment about today's show. I dig Boy George. Not entirely sure why, but I perk up whenever he shows up. Otherwise, this show was a snooze-fest.

[dinkysquid]

Whoopi - first off, what ADULT WOMAN calls herself that?!! - is so bloody annoying, so much so that it gets harder and harder to get through this show. Is she really leaving or is someone playing a cruel joke on us by putting it out there? She's like a head to toe disaster. You are on a network show that is seen all over North America and who knows where else. Would it KILL YOU to put in a little effort to, oh, I don't know....maybe TRY to look at least presentable? She looks like she literally just rolled out of bed, grabbed the first clothes she could find off the floor, and showed up. The other women do their hair, make-up (mind you....Raven?) and dress appropriately. Whoopi looks like a bag of laundry. I guess it's all part of her "I don't give a shit" persona and maybe a cute little 18 year-old could get away with it. But not her. It just screams sloppy, lazy and I think so little of my audience that I show up for work looking like this. 

Not only does she look offensive but her rants are getting more incoherent and stupid. Maybe if she would think before opening her mouth, she would make sense. Or not.

Edited May 27, 2016 by dinkysquid

[Cosmocrush]

Of course Whoopi Goldberg wears socks to the beach!  Of course she does.     Honestly, I couldn't really tell the difference from her "beachwear" outfit and what she wears every day on this show.  Good grief.  

[Tosia]

We re back to the 50's,v talking abt wedding rituals. 

Idiots. The study was abt people who were involved in church/temple/religious activities regularly had more human interactions --cuz of all the group  work/recreation  (like Bingo, Womens', mens' , and youth groups, classes, hospice visits, etc...besides religious services..) which is healthier than isolation. Duh, its not the freakin building. 

I was hoping for a Whoopi-free Friday so they wd talk abt Cosby.  WTH? 

My friend was in the other room when they were hawking crap, snd he asked if I had QVC on....which he knows I hate.  Lol. 

Edited May 27, 2016 by Tosia

[ChiCricket]

Boo hiss! Why do I have to watch Whoopie on a FRIDAY on my birthday?!

I was all happy there would be no Whoopie today. I repeat..Boo hisss! ?

[Apprentice79]

2 minutes ago, ChiCricket said:

Boo hiss! Why do I have to watch Whoopie on a FRIDAY on my birthday?!

I was all happy there would be no Whoopie today. I repeat..Boo hisss! ?

Happy Birthday! It was prerecorded due to the Holiday weekend.. I groaned when I saw the movie star come out like she owns the place...

[merriebreeze]

Yeah, we heard, Whoopi. Even with what would be humiliating for many (pay cut in half), you "ain't going nowhere." We're stuck with you and that sucks -- for the audience, for the other panel members, for Babs' legacy, etc. etc. 

Edited May 27, 2016 by merriebreeze

[TheGreenKnight]

I'll be honest, I kind of liked the show today. I've just been so exhausted by Paula and Jed lately, that it was nice to have a day without politics. Whoopi wasn't too bitchy and the way they were talking/laughing made the group feel like real people for once... Or maybe I was just in a good mood? I'm going to miss Michelle, personally. Raven and Candace, not so much.

The way Joy held up Raven's and Michelle's hands at the end seemed to mean they were acknowledging the two are out, or was that just me?

[athousandclowns]

Sorry but Paula's compliment about Joy that she knows what she wants was a slam. Who doesn't know what they want?  How about you don't kick your dog? 

[Celia Rubenstein]

20 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I'll be honest, I kind of liked the show today. I've just been so exhausted by Paula and Jed lately, that it was nice to have a day without politics. Whoopi wasn't too bitchy and the way they were talking/laughing made the group feel like real people for once... Or maybe I was just in a good mood? I'm going to miss Michelle, personally. Raven and Candace, not so much.

The lack of political discussion was refreshing, you're right.  Maybe they should just eliminate it altogether.  That and cooking segments, since the show does such a poor job at both.

I did notice that there was a nice flow to the conversation and everyone took part.  Michelle showed why she will be missed today.  She has her own opinion, it's usually not embarrassingly dumb like Raven and she is never hateful like Paula or obnoxious like Whoopi.  She seems to be more at ease disagreeing with people and making her points lately.  I wonder if knowing she is leaving has caused her to relax in some way.  Like she is saying to herself "screw it, just speak up it doesn't matter any more" or something.  I wish she'd started acting that way a while ago.  I really didn't care for her at first, but Michelle has grown on me.

Whoops struck the only sour note in the show for me.  Why did she have to take the church/lifespan study so seriously?  All the study suggested was that certain things about church appear to be good for you, like the positivity, the meditative aspect, the fellowship.  Does she really think this study is dangerous because people are going to hear about it and think it means if you go to church you can go ahead and smoke two packs a day and eat McDonalds for every meal?  Say "screw that mammogram, I went to mass three times last week" ?   That's just so dumb.

Whoop seems to feel the constant need to be profound in her observations, and it is just so exhausting.  She's a lecture looking for a reason to be delivered, every damn day. 

[Apprentice79]

31 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

The lack of political discussion was refreshing, you're right.  Maybe they should just eliminate it altogether.  That and cooking segments, since the show does such a poor job at both.

I did notice that there was a nice flow to the conversation and everyone took part.  Michelle showed why she will be missed today.  She has her own opinion, it's usually not embarrassingly dumb like Raven and she is never hateful like Paula or obnoxious like Whoopi.  She seems to be more at ease disagreeing with people and making her points lately.  I wonder if knowing she is leaving has caused her to relax in some way.  Like she is saying to herself "screw it, just speak up it doesn't matter any more" or something.  I wish she'd started acting that way a while ago.  I really didn't care for her at first, but Michelle has grown on me.

Whoops struck the only sour note in the show for me.  Why did she have to take the church/lifespan study so seriously?  All the study suggested was that certain things about church appear to be good for you, like the positivity, the meditative aspect, the fellowship.  Does she really think this study is dangerous because people are going to hear about it and think it means if you go to church you can go ahead and smoke two packs a day and eat McDonalds for every meal?  Say "screw that mammogram, I went to mass three times last week" ?   That's just so dumb.

Whoop seems to feel the constant need to be profound in her observations, and it is just so exhausting.  She's a lecture looking for a reason to be delivered, every damn day. 

Whoopie seems to desperately want to be thought of to be  as profound as Maya Angelou was...It is why she wrote that nonsensical book of hers, if somebody says to you that you complete me, run....She has to make everything a battle, just so that she can pontificate to us ignorant masses...I also wanted to add that her book was reduced at half price by Barnes&Nobles...lol 

[Cosmocrush]

4 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

Boo hiss! Why do I have to watch Whoopie on a FRIDAY on my birthday?!

I was all happy there would be no Whoopie today. I repeat..Boo hisss! ?

Happy Birthday @ChiCricket!   And yes, it was a big bummer to tune and hear Whoopi bloviating.  I guess she had to show up because they probably pre-recorded something for Monday? 

How crazy was it to hear Paula Farris, [you know the one that likes to refer to herself as a journalist, the one that started her successful career reporting sports]   sit in the very spot Barbara Walters sat, on the same show Barbara Walters created, and denounce feminism?!?   Look around sweetheart,  who do you think blazed the trail for  for you to have a big broadcasting career (at ABC no less) in the first place?   I tuned out after that.  

Edited May 27, 2016 by Cosmocrush
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[Miss Slay]

For everyone who has been complaining about Whoopi being mean to Paula, I hope you saw today's episode. Joy is especially rude to Paula.

[merriebreeze]

From what I've seen over the years of watching this show, Joy will not tolerate inauthenticity. If you're spitting out talking points or someone else's words, she's going to call you on it. That's what I like about her. Paula's a little more artful than Bitsy, but she's playing the same role Bitsy played. Joy knows it's ridiculous to have someone like Trump at the top of the ticket. He's a dangerous, delusional demagogue. We cannot fall into the trap of letting people like Paula normalize him. 

[rcc]

30 minutes ago, Miss Slay said:

For everyone who has been complaining about Whoopi being mean to Paula, I hope you saw today's episode. Joy is especially rude to Paula.

Anything specific? I almost didn't watch today when the EGOT came out for a Friday show. She wasn't too bad but now you say Joy was rude.

[backformore]

Yeah, Whoopi reads a study that says nothing more than a statistical correlation between long life and attending church.   Whatever.  There's a lot of ways to interpret it, and a lot of ways to make a study say what you want it to. What was the population?  Was the correlation with if you EVER went to church, or just recently?  (you might STOP going if you're very unhealthy or elderly, and then you die - it's not because you quit going to church)  Miss Whoopi is thinking the study said "don't take care of yourself, just go to church", and THAT is what she wants to argue with.  

And PAULA!  She infuriated me.  The discussion was about whether marriage traditions are anti-feminist.   The answer is YES. Giving away the bride, the man asking the father's permission, taking the husband's name,  even the traditional vows (love honor and obey), are all based on a woman being the father's property and the father allowing the husband to have her. 

  Paula thinks that the feminists are trying to ruin things, trying to change things.   Excuse me?  If a woman in a job on TV, where she gets paid a lot of money, is going to attack feminism - then she needs to go back behind the scenes, be satisfied with a lot less money, and make coffee and take lunch orders for the people who actually WANT to be considered equal. Or maybe she should just be barefoot in the kitchen, making dinner and cleaning the house, focusing on making her husband happy.  Do not have a career,  and then knock feminism, which is what  allowed you to be where you are today! 

The discussion was just about the traditions - and they are based on women being property.   Period.  Don't blame the feminists for the fact that traditions that arise out of a paternalistic society are sexist -  it's just a fact.  And something to think about, talk about, and even, possibly change. 

Edited May 27, 2016 by backformore

[GiveMeSpace]

46 minutes ago, backformore said:

And PAULA!  She infuriated me.  The discussion was about whether marriage traditions are anti-feminist.   The answer is YES. Giving away the bride, the man asking the father's permission, taking the husband's name,  even the traditional vows (love honor and obey), are all based on a woman being the father's property and the father allowing the husband to have her. 

  Paula thinks that the feminists are trying to ruin things, trying to change things.   Excuse me?  If a woman in a job on TV, where she gets paid a lot of money, is going to attack feminism - then she needs to go back behind the scenes, be satisfied with a lot less money, and make coffee and take lunch orders for the people who actually WANT to be considered equal. Or maybe she should just be barefoot in the kitchen, making dinner and cleaning the house, focusing on making her husband happy.  Do not have a career,  and then knock feminism, which is what  allowed you to be where you are today! 

The discussion was just about the traditions - and they are based on women being property.   Period.  Don't blame the feminists for the fact that traditions that arise out of a paternalistic society are sexist -  it's just a fact.  And something to think about, talk about, and even, possibly change. 

Marry me. (in the voice of Maeby from Arrested Development)

[Blissfool]

3 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Whoops struck the only sour note in the show for me.  Why did she have to take the church/lifespan study so seriously?  

I think it was just an excuse to go against Paula. Paula loves church? Whoopi will hate on any study that promotes church.

A similar scenario...I hate whoopi....whoopi hates paula, sooooo i LOVE paula.

[backformore]

15 minutes ago, GiveMeSpace said:

Marry me. (in the voice of Maeby from Arrested Development)

Well, you will have to ask my father.

[Celia Rubenstein]

1 hour ago, Miss Slay said:

For everyone who has been complaining about Whoopi being mean to Paula, I hope you saw today's episode. Joy is especially rude to Paula.

I don't know if I would call Joy's behavior "rude" as much as "impatient."  But I agree, it is showing more and more.  And, frankly, I'm glad. In my opinion, Paula's "reasoning" is usually nothing but the manipulations of a right-wing mouthpiece trying to push an agenda and her contrived, devious arguments should not go unchallenged.  Every time Joy calls Paula out for her nonsense, I cheer.  Same for Raven or Whoops, who I have also noticed are not letting Paula get away with things as much as she used to. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

So. A few things. First, the email thing is so ridiculous that it's reaching levels of ...of...I can't even think of the word. Just to ay that Rice did it, and so did Powell.

And Oh.My.God. That karaoke was so, so, so, SO bad. First, Raven should have been disqualified, because you know, she's what would be referred to as a ringer.  And Candace was so GODAWFUL. I love me my Boy George, he of the Culture Club days, that I smell something rotten--I'm so sure the producers told them not to say a single negative thing. Twit was off-key, tone deaf, and trying to act like something she's not. And the FACT That the judges, who I'm sure knew of, if didn't outright KNOW David Bowie, were okay with that song? And the "artist" who came ouit to help Candace? JackASS STOLE that song...that is the music...it was totally a rip-off of "Pressure" and his ass was called out for it, and he tried to 'splain away that he didn't steal it. UGH. 

So it was fast forward Central for me. Until Jennifer came out and finished her song.  They needed Simon Cowell.

And Joy wasn't rude to Paula; she called a spade a spade. It was a stupid idea--compliment Joy, and Joy said she didn't want her to do it, and what she came up with? I loved Joy's snark how Paula's "compliment" wasn't "magnanimous" throwing that compliment. And then the look of pure hate, or pissiness, or whatever that was on Paula's face. I LOVED it. Then she touts out "Love you." When it's clear she doesn't and thinks saying that makes it all better? But what a stupid word to compliment a friend. You use magnanimous, if the recipient of that word has done something over and beyond of being generous. Paula's reasoning of wjhy she liked it? I don't think she even knows what magnanimous means. You know, Paiula. The joiurnalist.  And then again later, throws out the "love you." She couldn't have sounded more disingeneous or fake.

And I fucking LOVED Will Arnett. He was hilarious. And NO WAY does Paula's husband look like him, and Laughed, I will not lie, when Whoopi said that's llike saying "all white men look alike." and I had to cover my ears so they wouldn't bleed when Paula screeched "That's NOT TRUE!" or whatever she said.

And since the crazy ass weather has done something to make me ill, I'm going to go rest my wee aching head and suck on some Halls, after just finished imbibing Theraflu.

[TheGreenKnight]

Paula throws out her own bitchy jabs at the other women regularly these days. Like making a drinking game out of Sunny's law experience (as if she doesn't regularly bring up the fact she's a journalist to bolster her point) or when she acts like Joy's marriage must be worse than her own. "Poor Steve! Poor Steve!" I don't feel sorry for her. Joy wasn't even mean to her. The only mean thing she's said to her this season was asking her how dumb she was when she equated Obama's trip to Cuba as supporting communism. Which--I'd love more moments like that.

[Medicine Crow]

I just remembered something Paula said this week about taking her baby to a wedding.  She said she was "out of her mind" or something like that.  Does anyone else remember what the conversation was about?  (I can't imagine anyone showing up at a wedding with a newborn.  Just sayin'.)

Edited May 28, 2016 by Medicine Crow
It's always good to close a bracket!!

[dinkysquid]

Paula bringing a baby to a wedding is rude, inconsiderate and downright dumb. Most people specify on the invitations not to bring kids. I know I did and guess what? Some idiot showed up with one anyway!

Paula needs to go. Why doesn't she go find a job with Trump's campaign, seeing how she defends him so much? 

[Bronzedog]

When my brother got married, it was specified that no babies or children were invited.  Brother B brought a baby.  Now 30 years later, when there is any friction between my brothers, Brother A will still say, "You brought a baby to my wedding!", to which Brother B always says, "I brought your niece!"    That no babies rule is serious stuff!

[rcc]

I also think impatient is the word for Joy on the show. Not rude. She's done it to Raven telling her to sit down. To Stacy to sit back. Giving Michelle the side eye when she interrupts with a joke. Side eye to Whoopi when she scans the audience with that look of hers. Lots of times.

Paula once told Whoopi she loved her too. To Joy a couple of times. I think that is what Paula feels needs to be said when she thinks someone is mad at her. Criticize her for it if you may, but I don't think Paula is a bad person. She is conservative, yes, she says moderate. She is a born again Christian. CCB is also religious. Doesn't make them bad people. It just makes some of us disagree with them. They have a right to disagree with whatever is being discussed. That's why they're on the show. For a different view.

If Nicolle would have given her views and not backed down so many times she would still be there. Instead she became a kiss ass and is gone.

[Miss Slay]

You can call it impatient not rude if you like. But Joy makes a lot of jabs at Paula and they aren't out of impatience. They are rude.

A couple of weeks ago Paula's husband was on and Paula made a comment about her husband liking Joy. Joy responds that Paula's husband is a weird, just like Paula.

Another time they were discussing premarital sex and Joy asked Paula if her husband was the only man she'd ever been with. And Joy goes "that explains a lot."

Listen, I like Joy, but since she's come back she has been a little more "impatient" than she was before she first left the View. If we are going to call Whoopi out on her behavior we can't ignore Joy's. Joy makes way more quips at Paula and no one seems to notice because it doesn't fit their narrative.

[rcc]

4 minutes ago, Miss Slay said:

You can call it impatient not rude if you like. But Joy makes a lot of jabs at Paula and they aren't out of impatience. They are rude.

A couple of weeks ago Paula's husband was on and Paula made a comment about her husband liking Joy. Joy responds that Paula's husband is a weird, just like Paula.

Another time they were discussing premarital sex and Joy asked Paula if her husband was the only man she'd ever been with. And Joy goes "that explains a lot."

Listen, I like Joy, but since she's come back she has been a little more "impatient" than she was before she first left the View. If we are going to call Whoopi out on her behavior we can't ignore Joy's. Joy makes way more quips at Paula and no one seems to notice because it doesn't fit their narrative.

I get it. You're more a Whoopi fan than a Joy fan. I'm the opposite. Joy is the queen of quips (I like that word). She does it to everybody. We'll just have to agree to disagree I guess. That's my narrative for this morning.

Thanks for responding.

[Miss Slay]

4 minutes ago, rcc said:

I get it. You're more a Whoopi fan than a Joy fan. I'm the opposite. Joy is the queen of quips (I like that word). She does it to everybody. We'll just have to agree to disagree I guess. That's my narrative for this morning.

Thanks for responding.

Actually no, I've been posting here since TWOP. Whoopi is a horrible moderator. I think Joy is fantastic on the panel and I think she elevates the panel and the conversation.

I do think these forums tend to result in a lot of group think. There is usually one panelist that people harp on until they go. First it was Star, then is was Elizabeth for almost a decade, then it was Sherri, and now it's Whoopi. That's just the way it goes. Doesn't mean Joy can't be rude. I personally find Paula exhausting.

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, Miss Slay said:

You can call it impatient not rude if you like. But Joy makes a lot of jabs at Paula and they aren't out of impatience. They are rude.

Rude, impatient, either way I saw the exchange [re: Paula handing out compliments Friday] as Joy swatting one back at Paula.   "You know what you want" was probably a passive aggressive "compliment" next to the other compliments she was handing out.   Yes, Joy could have let it go but I see Joy as a woman who has reached the enviable age/stage of her life where she will say what she wants to say and she wanted to swat that back to Paula. 

I believe Whoopi, on the other hand,  just says stuff to be contradictory [like that whole churchgoers-live- longer-study].  I've seen Paula do the same thing on other issues but she does it better and passively-aggressive where Whoopi is just flat out aggressive.  

 

3 hours ago, Miss Slay said:

Actually no, I've been posting here since TWOP. Whoopi is a horrible moderator. I think Joy is fantastic on the panel and I think she elevates the panel and the conversation.

I do think these forums tend to result in a lot of group think..

I'm not sure it's group think as much as a consensus but that's just my opinion.  

Edited May 28, 2016 by Cosmocrush

[Medicine Crow]

Speaking of group think, I watched Bill Maher with MHP last night & I wondered how long it takes to get her hair like that & how often she has to do it.  Anyone?  (I'd like to "touch it", but I know that's not allowed!!  LOL.)

[TheGreenKnight]

People usually harp on one person if they're annoying. Personally, I've had many opinions most people here don't/didn't share. I couldn't stand Nicolle, and everyone seemed to love her. I like(d) Barbara, Paula and Michelle while many people hate them (although Paula crossed over into my shit list last week). I think likeminded people are generally attracted to the same conversation is all. Calling it "groupthink" is really saying people here are unintelligent and bow down to something as childish as peer pressure, which isn't true at all in my experience here.

[JAYJAY1979]

Out of all the women on the panel (including ringers sunny, Jedi, and sara)...the one whose view point is closest to mine is Michelle's.  She isn't totally conservative nor flat out liberal....she seems more a moderate that tends to have an objective view.  The one thing I do like is that she's kind of self depracating.

With that said, I've found I agree with all of the women at one time or another depending on the view.  I agreed with CCB's assertion that women can have it all, just not at the same time.... I agreed with Paula about the musical chair debate, even will agree with Raven though sometimes she's so deep..she can be shallow.

In regards to the wedding traditions/feminism debate....I think Michelle'so assertion made the most sense.  The true point of feminism is to do what one wants irregardless of societal pressure.  She's a feminist, yet will follow the wedding traditions.  

I guess I'm going to miss Michelle since she was quirky, a little awkward..yet had a cool perspective not really offered on The View that I could recall...a moderate view.

[Jaded]

It's nice to read that so many others will also be sad to see Michelle go. 

[Celia Rubenstein]

15 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:

I just remembered something Paula said this week about taking her baby to a wedding.  She said she was "out of her mind" or something like that.  Does anyone else remember what the conversation was about?  (I can't imagine anyone showing up at a wedding with a newborn.  Just sayin'.)

Was it part of the wedding traditions discussion or something?  I can't remember the context.

But I DO clearly remember Paula saying how crazy and out of her mind she was after she had her baby.  She said it like five times and it started to bother me.  At first I thought she was referring to being sleep deprived or something, which I could understand.  Then she mentioned how she had to go back to work and was bothered by that, and I can understand that, too.   But she kept repeating that she was out of her mind until it started to sound like she was implying having had a baby made her unstable or something.  

I guess she was just trying to make excuses for why she took her baby to a wedding despite being asked not to do so, but she started to sound like an escapee from the Victorian age who thinks women's menstrual cycles make them insane. I had to just roll my eyes at her.  Apparently Paula would rather claim mental infirmity rather than just own that she put her wishes above those of the couple that was getting married.  

[Medicine Crow]

3 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Was it part of the wedding traditions discussion or something?  I can't remember the context.

But I DO clearly remember Paula saying how crazy and out of her mind she was after she had her baby.  She said it like five times and it started to bother me.  At first I thought she was referring to being sleep deprived or something, which I could understand.  Then she mentioned how she had to go back to work and was bothered by that, and I can understand that, too.   But she kept repeating that she was out of her mind until it started to sound like she was implying having had a baby made her unstable or something.  

I guess she was just trying to make excuses for why she took her baby to a wedding despite being asked not to do so, but she started to sound like an escapee from the Victorian age who thinks women's menstrual cycles make them insane. I had to just roll my eyes at her.  Apparently Paula would rather claim mental infirmity rather than just own that she put her wishes above those of the couple that was getting married.  

Thanks @Celia Rubenstein, that was the conversation.  In a nutshell, I perceived her to be saying that she was "out of control" after she had her baby & no one could reason with her.

[susieq147]

I will flat out say it.   I don't like Paula.  I don't despise her very being like I did with Elisabeth but I so vehemently disagree with pretty much everything Paula says that I don't find the way Joy acts towards her as rude or impatient at all.  After sitting at that table for a decade with Elisabeth and being IMO forbidden from calling her out on her shit I don't blame her for putting Paula in her place when need be.

[ChicagoCita]

I always record The View and watch it as time allows. I do a lot of pausing when I need to concentrate on work (and FF'ing when it's too stupid to bear).

I was watching Friday's show when the phone rang today and paused it to take the call. When I looked back at the TV, this is what I saw. I don't think I could have found a more unflattering capture of Raven if I'd tried all day.

(For the record, I don't dislike Raven, I just think she's shallow and silly and I don't pay much attention to her. So this isn't an attack. It just made me laugh because it was so goofy and unintentional!)

[backformore]

3 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:

Speaking of group think, I watched Bill Maher with MHP last night & I wondered how long it takes to get her hair like that & how often she has to do it.  Anyone?  (I'd like to "touch it", but I know that's not allowed!!  LOL.)

Help me out -  MHP refers to  ???

[Medicine Crow]

3 minutes ago, backformore said:

Help me out -  MHP refers to  ???

Sorry .. Melissa Harris-Perry.

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, susieq147 said:

I will flat out say it.   I don't like Paula.  I don't despise her very being like I did with Elisabeth but I so vehemently disagree with pretty much everything Paula says that I don't find the way Joy acts towards her as rude or impatient at all.  After sitting at that table for a decade with Elisabeth and being IMO forbidden from calling her out on her shit I don't blame her for putting Paula in her place when need be.

This is how I feel as well.  And I will say, never having heard of her, I was willing to give her a chance. But, she keeps trying to steer the other women, to her way of thinking, by saying "reports" and "facts" which are nothing more than the talking points of Fox, etc., and then saying she's a journalist, which, she is not. If she were, she would check her sources and not believe what was given to her.  And there's something so very disingenuous about her, and it's cloaked in that sweet sounding voice, thrown in with her 'persona' (don't know if it's genuine or not) of naivete. Which I just don't buy. I don't mind different views or opinions. Say what you want, just don't use false information or misinformation or lies, to try and convince others that you are right in your opinion.  I couldn't stand Nicolle either, because of her cackling and thumping that Obama had "six years! six years!" to fix the economy that she bloviated about over on Bill Maher before she was hired on this show.

[Haleth]

And PAULA!  She infuriated me.  The discussion was about whether marriage traditions are anti-feminist.   The answer is YES. Giving away the bride, the man asking the father's permission, taking the husband's name,  even the traditional vows (love honor and obey), are all based on a woman being the father's property and the father allowing the husband to have her.

I'm in no way disagreeing with you but a couple weeks ago we were visiting my daughter and her bf in another city and at one point (unbeknownst to me) the bf took my husband aside to give him a heads up that he's popping the question soon. My daughter doesn't know yet. We thought it was a sweet gesture. 

[Vinyasa]

They should just get rid of CCB and Raven. Keep Michelle. I didn't like her too much at first and now I'll really miss her.

Paula is close to driving me crazy and with her best pal airhead Sara Haines, I won't watch much next season. I could tolerate Paula more if Michelle was there.

[Medicine Crow]

No one asked, but here's my opinion:

Whoopi:  Can't bear to look at her face or hear what she has to say ... positive or negative.  I'm done with her, totally.

Joy:  I'm okay with her & will over-look her foibles because her job "matters" to her & she's honest.  Maybe a bit cranky.

Paula:  I liked her at first, but she's really wearing thin.  I give little credence to anything she has to say.

CCB, Raven, Jebidiah (sp?) & Stacy:  No, just no.

Michelle:  Didn't like her at first because of her constant interruptions, but she's grown on me & now I think she's kind of sweet.

Sara:  Don't care one way or the other.

Sunny:  I mostly like her & value her opinions (most of the time) but I dislike her stance on marriage.

Edited May 28, 2016 by Medicine Crow
Had a brain fade.