Banshee - General Discussion

[AuntiePam]

I just started watching a week ago, after reading a very positive review at the AV Club.  Because of the name -- Banshee -- I'd assumed this was yet another supernatural show and never bothered to check it out.

 

Like all you folks have said, this is good on so many different levels.  And the dialogue -- it's very rarely cliche. 

 

Just finished episode 6, "Wicks", and trying to place the actor who played Wicks (the ex-con who recognized Hood).  I ask my husband, "Is that Jon Lovitz?  He looks like Jon Lovitz -- where have I seen him?"  And then it hits me -- Maurice Levy from The Wire.  Loved that final scene.  I'm wondering why Sugar and Hood are out on the lake in a boat at night, and then we see Wicks.  That scene reminded me of a similar scene in Night of the Hunter.  Except I don't think any fish were nibbling at Shelly Winters.

 

Love seeing Frankie Faison (another Wire alumnae) as a "good guy", and he looks like he's lost a few pounds. 

 

Another thing I like is that six episodes in, Carrie/Ana and Hood haven't talked about the fact that Deva is his daughter.  It's so great when the obvious is left unsaid.

 

I love every scene with Kai Proctor.

[Captanne]

I miss this show.  I really, really liked it at the point the ensemble cast was clicking away on all cylinders.  (Around the time of Hood, Siobhan, Brock, villains Rebecca, Uncle, and Robot Killer, some Amish interaction, weirdo nuclear family established by Ukrainian Barbie, her cool husband, ill son, and rebel daughter.)

 

I made it almost through the season in which the DA husband died.  They lost me with Siobhan's death and then that husband going ninja in the swimming pool because - holy mother of God, even my credulity was strained beyond snapping.

 

I really miss that dreamy episode in the country house which had to come on the heels of all that cartoon violence.  It was a risk taken by the team and, for this viewer, worked like a charm.  it was a thing of beauty.

 

I'm enjoying reading your posts but since I didn't even watch the last season closer, I'm afraid I'm out of gas.  

 

While I don't miss the cliche bartender at all, I do miss Job.  Glad to see he's back in good form.

[tennisgurl]

I am really glad that Rebecca is still appearing in flashbacks, and affecting the plot from beyond the grave. I always really liked her, and I was disappointed that she was not going to be around. 

 

I like the way this season is going. Kai Proctor as mayor, with Brock being stuck dealing with him is an interesting dynamic, plus now you have Hood in the mix. 

 

And, most importantly, Job is back!

[NorthstarATL]

I like HGTV During the Day Carrie who becomes Vigilante by Night Carrie when the need arises. There's a decent Netflix series in there somewhere. Glad to see Job at the end of the latest episode, even though not happy AT ALL with where he is! Not pleased with Rebecca's death. Everyone on the show is so involved with violence that it's hardly a surprise when one falls prey to the ultimate violent end, but I had hoped that Rebecca might be wily enough to avoid a tragic end, and maybe outlive Proctor. Loved Hood outsmarting his ex-cohorts by having them flush out the guy he was after so that he could just snatch him from the club once he ran out. Hate Hood's hair.

[snowwhyte]

I'm not sure how I feel about Carrie being a vigilante. I enjoy seeing scum like the pornographer getting punished and that's clearly not going to happen through legal means. Carrie is clearly focused on getting her kids back though and she must see that she is risking that. The guys she goes after aren't the type to go to the cops but they are the type to seek revenge. She's tough but the white supremacists have numbers.

[AWhittle]

I get the feeling we will see more of Proctor's spy on the police, the Cruz woman.

 

Apparently, she can fight, but then again, so can just about everyone else for such a small town...

[DollEyes]

Bumping it up with relief that Job is still alive after all, but after two years in captivity, to say that in some ways he's not the same man anymore would be an understatement.

Edited April 10, 2016 by DollEyes

[AuntiePam]

Something I don't understand is why Ana/Carrie fears that Rabbit would continue to come after her, even if she returns the diamonds. 

 

This fear was her motivation for drugging Hood and leaving him for Rabbit to play with. 

 

Hood definitely should fear him, but I don't think Rabbit would harm her or her family.  Seems like a contrivance, to keep Hood and Ana/Carrie at cross-purposes. 

[DarkRaichu]

Carrie reminded me of an old show called Renegade, which was about a guy who was judge by day and head a vigilante team at night :D

 

Oh boohoo white supremacist guy. How was Proctor unhinged after losing his niece not an opportunity to seize power?  That dude talked tough but not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

 

Also, what good is a hacker who has been out of practice for 2 whole years? ;)

Edited April 11, 2016 by DarkRaichu

[MV007]

This second episode is why I didn't want Rebecca to die or the show to go off the air really.  I feel like they could have gotten a good season out of Hood being Rebecca's enforcer and having him flirt with being a darker criminal.  

[catrox14]

Okay, I know this show is super violent but I really don't remember this level...of sexual violence. I mean that opener was almost too much. I felt like I had accidentally tuned in a rape porn channel or some such shit. There is a different vibe to this season that feels like I'm watching a totally different show.  I'm not sure I'm happy about. It doesn't feel organic at all.

[DollEyes]

  Like the Season premiere, Episodes 2 & 3 delivered, big-time. Using Rebecca's death as the linchpin for the final season is clever. Rebecca's death has made a huge impact on several characters, for better and for worse. Re NLH, aka NotLucasHood, since it was Rebecca who helped NLH start to heal from losing Siobhan & Job, he figured that risking his life to save hers when she was dumb enough to confront the Boedickers alone for being dumb enough to have their own meth business without her uncle's permission, getting her ass kicked and and almost becoming rabid dog chow in the process, not to mention her burning the meth lab and getting NLH shot, hence her stealing supplies from the hospital and patching him up, trying to solve her murder is the least he could do. NLH's actions re Rebecca also had another unintended consequence for Rebecca's other ex, whom Kai killed in cold blood in a jealous rage, proving that besides their connections to Rebecca and being career criminals, NLH & Proctor have something else in common: that, to paraphrase what Brock said about NLH last season, "Everything that [they] touch turns to blood." 

 

 That Proctor's latest casualty was also a Boedicker could have been the final nail in Rebecca's coffin ( no pun intended). While I still think that Burton could be a suspect, now I also believe that one of the Boedickers might have had Rebecca killed as payback for what she & NLH did to them and their meth lab. Rebecca's being pregnant when she died makes the story even more tragic because either Proctor or her ex could have been the father. NLH's lying to Brock about not having seen Rebecca before she died backfired when his blood was found in her SUV. Had NLH been honest with Brock about that much, things might have been slightly easier for NLH because it could have proven that he wouldn't have killed Rebecca because she had saved his life and vice versa and pointed Brock & Proctor in the Boedicker's direction as prime suspects; otoh, that might have made the Boedickers start asking questions about their relative's disappearance, which Kai wouldn't want to answer. 

 

  Welcome back, Job! Despite being held captive for 20 months, you were missed, to put it mildly. Leave it to Fat Au to literally get to the bottom of things, as in the bottom of the feet of the psycho hacker who had you abducted. Your captors may have been playing checkers, but as it turned out, Fat Au was not only playing chess, he played "20 Questions" & "This Little Piggy," too.  

Edited April 16, 2016 by DollEyes

[Bama]

From the after credits scene, we see a man in a hoodie charging a woman in a parking lot - which I assume is the serial killer taking another victim.  Which will prove Hood couldn't be the serial killer, since he's in custody.  And the murder that brings the FBI in on the case (Eliza Dushku's character).

 

I'm throwing Calvin Bunker out as the possible killer.  I feel like it's someone we, the audience, already know.  And Calvin could be into more than just straight up torture porn, like snuff films.

 

And I'm loving Carrie and Deputy Bunker's "shadow sheriff department".  

 

And I'm loving Bunker's sincere good manners - no matter if he's giving his Girl Friday Vigilante dirt on criminals, he's still going to call her "Mrs. Hopewell" or if he's arresting his former boss, he's going to call him "sir".

 

Surely there's a plastic surgeon in Philly or Pittsburgh willing to remove all that awful ink from Bunker in exchange for using his before and after pictures for advertising?  A better example of a plastic surgeon's skill with laser removal I can not imagine.

[ybrik]

Really liking how the season is going so far. When first saw that Rebecca was killed I was kind of bummed but glad that we are still seeing her in the story even through flashbacks.

 

Glad Job is back already and it didn't drag out too long. Am interested to see how he and Hood are going to be when he hears about what went down the last 20 months.

 

So are going to get a Carrie/Cruz fight or Carrie/Burton fight or maybe both this season? I know Carrie is going to have a knockdown dragout fight. This is Banshee after all. Hell we already got the crazy chase in the middle of the street that we always get in Banshee.

 

Really enjoy Bunker. His politeness is great. I guess him and the wife are the new Carrie/Hood doomed love affair.

 

Proctor continues to be creepy. Is it going to come out that he killed Rebecca and tried to make hide behind the serial killer to get away with it?

[MrsRafaelBarba]

After Bunker and Maggie's pillow talk, my prediction.

Maggie will end up dead, THAT will be what leads to him killing Calvin.

To stop the Brotherhood.

Avenge Maggie's death.

Save his nephew Hank, from going down the same path.

I think there will be a high body count by season's end.

That could include Brock.

If I'm right, Kurt will become the Sheriff of Banshee.

And end up raising Hank, breaking the cycle of hate.

Redemption!

[NorthstarATL]

Job is so broken! I was happy that they succeeded in the rescue, but he makes me so sad now. On top of finding out just how much Rebecca probably suffered before dying, this was really a rough episode. My guess is that Kai and Rebecca had a falling out, judging from his imaginings while choking the thief, and that was why she was alone and vulnerable when she was jumped, as with the woman in the final scene. I'm also betting that Carrie and Cruz will have a final battle, and I am hoping it's awesome.

[Hipshooter]

I'm thinking a Carrie / Cruz fight is inevitable. Plus I  bet Carrie beats the living shit out of her. 

 

I'm liking Kurt and Maggie so one or both are certainly doomed.

 

Kai is not the serial killer. The killer's back tat wasn't "The Brotherhood" or "Tribal"  so he's an unknown entity at this point.

 

Will Hood,Carrie,Sugar and Job go after the money? They know who to look for now.

 

Nice to see Fat Au back as a semi-regular cast member this season. Great addition to the team imho.

 

Agree with nosleepforme that the women go out brutally.They really pay for their sins in the ways they are killed.

 

 

So far I'm pleased with the way Trooper is bring the series to a close. It will be interesting to see who's left standing.

Can't wait for Friday night.

 

[AWhittle]

Lee gets away with kidnapping Job and then drives away with the money.

 

He slips through the cracks!!!

 

Burton is so creepy...

 

Cruz is a bitch to me and I want Carrie to beat her down so bad.

 

Now we will finally get to see Dushku's character as an FBI agent. Interesting.

Edited April 17, 2016 by AWhittle

[mjc570]

Re:  Fat Au.  He was great - I certainly hope he shows up again.   I have to admit, I don't remember him at all.

 

This was a good episode - I really feel for Kurt, I hadn't realized before what  a good looking man he is.  I know Maggie is using him to get her and her son out of her own situation, but it would be really nice (for a change) if he was able to end the series on a happy note.

 

Was that a random woman at the end, being taken by the serial killer?  At first, I thought it was Cruz, being set on by Carrie, but that was not Carrie.  Speaking of Carrie - she's really redeemed herself to me by being the one who put so much effort into finding Job, unlike Lucas, who basically just wallowed in self pity.

[AuntiePam]

Almost finished with S1.  My only complaint is the character of Nola.  My first impression was that she was cast simply because she could pass as Native American.  She's wooden and boring.  The writers have her on the casino building site -- the only one not wearing a safety helmet -- guess it'd mess up her hair.  And then she shoots wildly at the car speeding off after depositing that head at her brother's place.  Okay, we know she can use a gun.  Yawn. 

 

Now that I know she's still around in S3, I'm hoping her part gets better. 

[mjc570]

Yeah that was a random woman. The actress initially played Allison's girlfriend in last season's Tribal, but this is supposedly a brand-new role for her. 

Thanks!

[Captanne]

I'm so glad you are new to this show.  It's SO good and fun and and owns its mega-violence.  Until it is not good at all.  For me, the plot went sideways when they started emphasizing one ensemble cast over the other.  I won't say how they did that because it will spoil the fun -- but it just got depressingly two dimensional for me.

[DarkRaichu]

So what is the chance the Banshee serial killer actually killed Rebecca?  I think Calvin the serial killer.  Now I understood why he had not make a move on Proctor.  It turned out he was just a peon of the guy in prison (is that his father in law?)  The guy has a lot of pent up anger.

 

My money is on Maggie playing Kurt to off Calvin.  The woman knew what she was doing when she visited Kurt after he was back from the hospital.  I think she wants to be the head of the nazi group by removing both brothers from the playing field.

[fastiller]

From the after credits scene, we see a man in a hoodie charging a woman in a parking lot - which I assume is the serial killer taking another victim.  Which will prove Hood couldn't be the serial killer, since he's in custody.  And the murder that brings the FBI in on the case (Eliza Dushku's character).

 

I'm throwing Calvin Bunker out as the possible killer.  I feel like it's someone we, the audience, already know.  And Calvin could be into more than just straight up torture porn, like snuff films.

 

And I'm loving Carrie and Deputy Bunker's "shadow sheriff department".  

 

And I'm loving Bunker's sincere good manners - no matter if he's giving his Girl Friday Vigilante dirt on criminals, he's still going to call her "Mrs. Hopewell" or if he's arresting his former boss, he's going to call him "sir".

 

Surely there's a plastic surgeon in Philly or Pittsburgh willing to remove all that awful ink from Bunker in exchange for using his before and after pictures for advertising?  A better example of a plastic surgeon's skill with laser removal I can not imagine.

On the two bolded sections:

 

I'd like to suggest Deputy Cruz as a possibility for the serial killer. 

 

Me too; you can tell Deputy Bunker is on high-alert for his own potential missteps.  He seems to always be checking his emotions and the almost excessive good manners is part of that, to me.

[MV007]

With all of this buildup, I have to think Proctor plays some kind of role in Rebecca's death.  Something more than just, he took her in a couple years ago.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

My money is on Maggie playing Kurt to off Calvin.  The woman knew what she was doing when she visited Kurt after he was back from the hospital.  I think she wants to be the head of the nazi group by removing both brothers from the playing field.

That would be an interesting twist.

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[fastiller]

Tom Pelphrey to guest star on Law & Order: Sports Utility Vehicle on 05.04.2016.

[Noirprncess]

With all of this buildup, I have to think Proctor plays some kind of role in Rebecca's death.  Something more than just, he took her in a couple years ago.

My guess is that Cruz took Rebecca out as part of her "duties" for Proctor and did it based on her knowledge of a potential serial killer. I do have a feeling he found out about her side deal with the Boedecker crew.

Yeah, one of those Bunker boys ain't long for this world. It's hard to see the actor playing Calvin as tough after his earnest character on Treme.

[Hipshooter]

Mostly tongue in cheek  NSFM  but

 

Yeah, I tend to hope Fat Au returns. He fits in this cast so well he should be a regular. lol   imo.

 

 

It's just too damn bad that there wont be another season. We all seen to like what they are doing and the new characters are pulling their weight just fine. So much story  so little time.

Edited April 23, 2016 by Hipshooter

[catrox14]

This is not the Banshee I know and love.

 

I want a showdown between Hood and Proctor.

 

I still can't stand Eliza Dushku. She's pretty much Faith with a badge and a crackpipe.

 

Ugh.  Why do this fucking stupid serial killer plot during it's final season? STOOPID

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Watts is Maggie's father.

[NorthstarATL]

I'm trying to have faith in the writers, but I didn't like the introduction of this creepy Satanist couple and their crazy ritual sacrifice. First, it's difficult to watch. Secondly, it's such a cliché. I hope they can turn this serial killer plot around in the last four episodes, but this episode made me lose faith in the writers a little bit. The early introduction of the killers however confirms for me that Rebecca's murderer is most likely a copy cat killer, because I don't think they would have the killers appear on screen before showing Rebecca's actual murder.

 

I honestly don't see Faith in Eliza Dushku's performance. Faith was a character that was more unhinged and not as calm. I'm not sold on her character yet, she doesn't quite fit in for me, but it was a solid introduction. The crack thing is a little bit too silly though, even for this show, at least in my opinion. 

 

I really loved Carrie in this episode. Such a badass. Looks like we have two plots that are picking up steam now. Cruz is eyeing Bunker and her confrontation with Carrie is pretty much inevitable. At the same time, we have Maggie's creepy Nazi grandfather getting out of prison and Calvin wanting to take action into his own hands. Maybe Kurt will now finally be used a little bit better.

 

This must have been the Banshee episode with the least amount of Hood in it. Antony Starr did a good job with what little he was given to do in this episode. I loved how Brock felt the need to tell Dawson that he also didn't buy her husband-story. Brock and Hood - always competing with each other. Haha.

 

I like that Job is still suffering from his torture. One of the things about Banshee that I love is that everything has a consequence and that nothing is forgotten. On any other show, Job would probably already be acting normal again.

 

No Sugar in this episode, he was missed. However, it was nice to see Billy Raven again ! Would have liked to see more of him this season.

 

I had a hard time buying that Proctor wouldn't immediately kill the guy that he saw Rebecca making out with.

 

 

I agree. I like the new additions from last season and this season. I think they could have easily told two seasons worth of story.

ITA about Carrie and Job! These characters do not heal quickly, despite the sometimes cartoonish violence! I hate the Satanist couple for the same reason I stopped watching Criminal Minds. I don't NEED to see torture porn, especially when we know the victim is not going to survive, and that Rebecca likely went through the same thing. (Not sure that they are any more of a cliché than any of the groups depicted on the show, though.)

  I hope we were not supposed to contrast Black Widow Carrie with the victim, though, as a sort of "See? We can do empowered women as well?", because the one does not make up for the other.

   The crack thing is just silly, as you said. Considering the department ran with a fake Sheriff for several seasons, I wonder if FaithB.I.'s credentials have been verified? The husband thing might be a lie, but she also might be yet another lone vigilante, kicked out of the Bureau, but dead set on finding the Satanists who murdered her sibling, or somesuch.

[AuntiePam]

I'm appreciating Nola more in S2, which I had to pay for. 

 

I got all excited yesterday to see that DirecTV has a free weekend of The Movie Channel, with Banshee.  (I thought it was just on Cinemax?)

 

It's funny.  My husband and I rarely like the same TV, but he likes this.  After supper, I'll ask him if he's ready for some sex and violence, and he's right there.  He thought the scene where the British hit man lost his head was hysterical.  He's still laughing about it.

[MV007]

My issue with the Cult torture scene is a little different.  It just made me really sad in a way that I don't want a TV show like this to make me feel.  I really don't want to think about a character I like, Rebecca, being tortured and dying like that.  I can watch it and be horrified when its someone we don't know but when I start to think of Rebecca in this girls place its just sad.  And I don't really want to feel this brand of sadness while watching Banshee, or really any show for that matter.

Edited April 25, 2016 by MV007

[Starchild]

I missed the intro for "...Grow a Pair". What went down at the cabin? It was on fire when I tuned in.

[NorthstarATL]

It's quite a leap from a little kid drawing a bad guy with horns on his head to a some heretofore unmentioned underground body mod thing going on in Banshee, even for the unconventional Hood. And Faith.B.I. is not even holding her own in comparison with other females on this show. That was rather a sad showing. Then again, as much as I dislike the Satanist storyline, I am hoping that Hood, Black Widow Carrie, and newly groomed Job will be the ones to take them out.

  I don't trust Maggie at all. If you are that afraid of your husband you do not steal actual papers from his desk and run them to his brother the police officer, whom you are also having an affair with. Don't Nazis have phones with cameras or scanners? Are they like the Amish?

  Speaking of the Amish, much as I respect their religion, I got a thrill out of Burton going after them with a chainsaw. They are such a whiny bunch on this series.

  I am going to miss these characters.

[CynicalGirl]

Holy crap, the horned bad guy is Marshall Marshall?!!? That was unexpected.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

6 hours ago, CynicalGirl said:

Holy crap, the horned bad guy is Marshall Marshall?!!? That was unexpected.

The guy from USA 's In Plain Sight, right?

[henripootel]

I gotta ask - how fucking big is Greater Banshee?  They have a modest downtown, a police force of about half a dozen (bit more, recently), normal people, Amish, peckerwoods, an indian casino (formerly), a large reservation, a nazi population of 100 at least, and a drug operation that makes Walt and Jessie look like a kid with a Bunsen burner.   I'm okay with that.  But they are also large enough to support a substantial and active B&D community with their own fetish bar?  Seriously?

Not for nothing but any script which rises or falls on the acting strength of Eliza Dushku is ... gonna fall.  I like her okay but she's starting to make Lili Simmons look like Meryl Streep. 

Edited May 1, 2016 by henripootel

[MrWhyt]

8 hours ago, NorthstarATL said:

I don't trust Maggie at all. If you are that afraid of your husband you do not steal actual papers from his desk and run them to his brother the police officer, whom you are also having an affair with. Don't Nazis have phones with cameras or scanners? Are they like the Amish?

It looked to me like she took pictures of the papers and then printed them out for some reason. And yeah that whole set up seemed wrong to me as well.

[CynicalGirl]

5 hours ago, MrsRafaelBarba said:

The guy from USA 's In Plain Sight, right?

Yes, Frederick Weller. He played such a nice guy on that show, wasn't prepared to see him as a serial killer!

[fastiller]

All I ask is this: please don't have NLH and Veronica sleep together!  Please let there be at least one woman on this show that he doesn't sleep with.

[DarkRaichu]

Am I the only one who kept hoping Echo's handle to show up and debrief the FBI agent?? :D  I am still sad they cancelled Dollhouse :(

Now I think either Calvin or his wife or both killed Rebecca by copying the satanists' MO.  They wanted to rock Kai's world to take over his empire.  My money is on the wife as the brain of the operation since Calvin is such a pushover.
The satanists are just red herrings IMHO

[fastiller]

1 hour ago, nosleepforme said:

 

Can you really blame the women though?

And hey, there were women that didn't sleep with Hood yet: Allison (okay, she was a Lesbian, but still),  Cruz (well, might still happen), Brock's ex-wife, uhm, 

I get what you're saying.  I'd just prefer they keep the story to solving the murder/s.  We've got so little show left, it'd be nice to concentrate on that.

[DollEyes]

The past two episodes like those before them have ramped up the action. The satanic cult behind the recent murders is just another element of crazy, as is Veronica Dawson, aka Special Agent Crackhead. Like Faith before her, Veronica has the best of intentions, but her darkside just keeps getting in the way and it doesn't get much darker than smoking crack. However, Veronica is smart, hence her figuring out that the murders were ritualistic and that NLH isn't guilty but does have secrets of his own and can get intel that the law can't, like when he questioned the little boy about the killer's identity. NLH & Veronica's joining forces to solve the murders makes sense because they aren't afraid of bending and/or breaking the occasional rule to get the truth, even if it means going to the depths of Hell-or a goth sex club. Banshee has so much weird shit going on it makes Wisteria Lane look like Sesame Street. Hopefully, NLH & Veronica keep things strictly professional, otherwise they're playing a very dangerous game. 

Speaking of dangerous games, Cana's playing one of her own by going into, as Job might put it, "Catwoman" mode by targeting Proctor to avenge Gordon because Cana has too much to lose, whether it's her kids, her freedom or her life. Then there's Deputy Cruz, Proctor's newest bitch at the Sheriff's Department, who's not only in Brock's crosshairs, if the recent death glares that Cana & Burton  gave her are any indication, she's on their shit lists, too. Now Cruz is getting curious about Cana, to the point of going to her place to do some B &E and if Job hadn't been there, she might have succeeded. However, if Cruz underestimates Cana, it would be a big mistake because Cana has fought heavyweights before, male & female, in & out of prison and she's won every time. While I've never had much use for Cana, if she kicked every square inch of Cruz's ass, she could get some big cool points from me. 

  As for Kurt, Cana's seemingly random partner in crime, between his affair with Maggie and his war with the Aryan Brothehood including Calvin, he's got way too much on his own plate to deal with Cana's drama too. My theory is that Hank isn't Calvin's son-he's Kurt's and the reason why Maggie didn't tell Kurt before is that she's scared of Calvin & her dad, with great reason. IMO, Maggie's not evil; just desperate. 

  Re Proctor, he's so obsessed with power that nothing, not even the U.S. Constitution, will stand in his way. The sooner he's taken down, the better. 

Edited May 5, 2016 by DollEyes
To add stuff.

[Starchild]

On 5/1/2016 at 2:10 AM, henripootel said:

I gotta ask - how fucking big is Greater Banshee?  They have a modest downtown, a police force of about half a dozen (bit more, recently), normal people, Amish, peckerwoods, an indian casino (formerly), a large reservation, a nazi population of 100 at least, and a drug operation that makes Walt and Jessie look like a kid with a Bunsen burner.   I'm okay with that.  But they are also large enough to support a substantial and active B&D community with their own fetish bar?  Seriously?

LOL, I thought exactly the same thing when the club was introduced.

[oldgearhead]

On 4/5/2016 at 5:25 PM, millahnna said:

Did they move the little after credits scenes around?

Indeed, they screwed with the format of the show.    Those final scenes were my private treats since most of my friends refuse to stick around to watch credits.

My OCD just cannot accept that the final scenes now occur before the credits.  At least season 4 has not jumped the shark too much.

[dirtydi]

That fight scene, woah! What a lousy cop Cruz is, I've always liked the "real"  Banshee cops on this show, I guess they needed a bad apple.  Job is back in action too!  Poor Hood, he really loved Sioban.  And the girl who set herself on fire, oh well.

Plus I remember the girl who plays the Satanist's gf (played by Jen Landon, daughter of Michael Landon) from As the World Turns.  She won many daytime Emmys (like Tom Pelphrey and at the same time).  She looks so different now.

Edited May 7, 2016 by dirtydi

[NorthstarATL]

9 hours ago, nosleepforme said:

This was a great episode where the stakes were high and we finally got back to some Banshee action!

The Cruz/Carrie fight was pretty amazing, though I was somewhat disappointed that Cruz got away. Having Deva back added a great emotional layer to the episode, reuniting Carrie and Hood, after they have mostly been separate all season. Carrie's breakdown at the end was nicely played by Ivana Milicevic.

I'm also enjoying the Proctor/brotherhood storyline. I think it's getting more interesting.

The only thing I can't get behind is the lame serial killer storyline. I initially wanted to wait and see how it turns out, but I feel like the show would have been better off if they had just expanded on  Watts,  Proctor and the brotherhood, as well as on  Carrie's vigilanteism and maybe Job's disappearance rather than introducing a murder mystery. There's nothing clever or particularly exciting about that storyline and it's disappointing that FaithB.I. got so easily overwhelmed by Satanist housewife. Even more disappointing that they fridged Rebecca for that storyline.

 

I love that Siobhan's death broke Hood. He's not even able to continue with his sexy womanizing anymore. On other shows, the dead love interest is forgotten in just a couple of episodes. In this show, it overshadows everything the hero does. That's great storytelling.

Plus, Job still getting over his PTSD. For all the over-the-topness of the violence, the consequences are never overlooked. I was pretty impressed that Deva shot that guy, as I really thought Job and Carrie would win their matches and then be faced with Deva-as-hostage, and I did not want the show to go there, especially with Job so emotionally fragile. (His final shot at the guy on the floor cracked me up. But why did they have to destroy that mirror!)

  Faith.B.I. should have hightailed it out of there as soon as she got in the car! Hood is not your partner; you don't need to update him (though that's how I assume they'll find her, hopefully in time), and you already nailed the case when you asked about the property. Like Carrie's, there's a lot of space for all sorts of goings on.

  Speaking of Carrie's place, I was hoping that the police were not going to find Carrie's armory! They are going to need that, I believe. Carrie deserves a rematch with Cruz.