valleycliffe March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 no, ashley is brent davis the tennis pro from the country club's daughter..she's not a fenmore. at one time, kaye liked her stable boys and dina liked the tennis pro.. 9 Link to comment
miamama March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 Thanks, @valleycliffe. I wonder if she comes back to die - Sally seems to want closure from long ago stories - and also for Ashley's paternity. (Which is also about 35 years old storywise.) 8 Link to comment
valleycliffe March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 i don't know. didn't jack bring up ashley's paternity a little while back? when chuckles was still writing? i seem to recall some posts wondering if jack would use her paternity, that is not being a blood abbott, to use against her in the company. maybe sally is going to follow thru on that.. i mean, ashley is threatening a takeover at jabot. 7 Link to comment
miamama March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, valleycliffe said: i don't know. didn't jack bring up ashley's paternity a little while back? when chuckles was still writing? i seem to recall some posts wondering if jack would use her paternity, that is not being a blood abbott, to use against her in the company. maybe sally is going to follow thru on that.. i mean, ashley is threatening a takeover at jabot. ED said in an interview not that long ago that she always wanted Jack to use the paternity against Ashley. And since Sally likes Jack and Ashley fighting it totally makes sense they'd bring it up. But it seems weird to send Dina back to Paris to disappear afterwards at this point. She'd be in her 80s. It would provide closure to kill her off. I'd like them to keep her around so she can be the matriarch figure who looks down her old money nose at Victor. But I'm guessing this is a few episode thing. I'm not really hopeful. I was excited about Traci's return and it was lame as fuck and all she did was yell at Jack and coddle Billy. The only reason I am somewhat interested in this is Dina has no connection whatsoever to Billy (the character/actor who has single-handedly ruined the Abbotts -- and by extension the show -- for me). Dina in town should be an actual Abbott (historically grounded) story. 13 Link to comment
rcc March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 I'm looking forward to Dina showing up because I want to see as much history as I can for this show. And a bonus is that she has nothing to do with Billy, the coddled one. 13 Link to comment
miamama March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 1 hour ago, rcc said: I'm looking forward to Dina showing up because I want to see as much history as I can for this show. And a bonus is that she has nothing to do with Billy, the coddled one. Sally was part of the team that wrote Dina's first return in the early 80's. It was very powerful writing that gave insight into all the (real) Abbotts. So it has potential - especially since Marla is the original actress. 9 Link to comment
Cupid Stunt March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 3 hours ago, valleycliffe said: yes, i can confirm, there is even a thread about it at soc. http://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/exclusive-yr-fave-returns/ I saw this issue on our receptionist's desk yesterday -- If you look in the top corner of the cover, there's a blurb with Steve Burton returning to Genital Hospital -- Does that make all the rumors, swirling around since SB announced he was leaving Y&R, true? I'm not hip to GH, but isn't Billy Miller playing SBs old character? Quote i think it is to spill ashley's true paternity. I expect so. Ashley's paternity was mentioned several weeks ago, and it's not like the TIIC to leave a thread like that dangling without giving it a tug. TIIC have been sluicing through character histories, desperate for SL fodder to draw old viewers back. 57 minutes ago, rcc said: I'm looking forward to Dina showing up because I want to see as much history as I can for this show. And a bonus is that she has nothing to do with Billy, the coddled one. Dina was one stone-cold crone. I was not sorry to see her mount her broomstick and fly away years ago. On 3/7/2017 at 4:07 PM, livvie said: Lauren looks like a wax figure. 22 hours ago, Foghorn Leghorn said: I said the same thing last week! LOL. She is ready for the soap opera exhibit!! She reminds me of the original Star Trek episode where Harcourt Fenton Mudd is stranded on the android planet (I, Mudd), and he had a replica made of his "beloved" wife Stella. When he prompts the android, Stella goes into a screeching tirade of accusations to Mudd's activities. I can see the Lauren waxwork, when prompted, going into a siren of wailing and howling, with her frozen face hiccup crying, repeating "MY SON!!!!," until your ears bleed. 10 Link to comment
peacheslatour March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 Quote I'm not hip to GH, but isn't Billy Miller playing SBs old character? Yes, he is. Hmmm the plot thickens. 6 Link to comment
Anna Yolei March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Cupid Stunt said: Dina was one stone-cold crone. I was not sorry to see her mount her broomstick and fly away years ago. The apple fell from the lowest branch there, then? ;) 6 Link to comment
Tippi March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 With this crack writing team, Dina will probably come back to announce that Jack is not an Abbott. 6 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 Quote Ashley's paternity was mentioned several weeks ago, and it's not like the TIIC to leave a thread like that dangling without giving it a tug. References to Dina were dropped a couple of times back in early December. I commented at the time wondering whether that meant Dina was returning. Then, yeah, Jack recently insinuated to Ashley that push come to shove, he's an Abbott and she's actually not so don't test him. I agree that it's good they're actually following up on the Dina mentions and weren't just being random. I barely remember her but wasn't she sort of what like Nikki is now, a socialite who acted like she was more royal than the Queen? (Or at least how Nikki was until they recently started turning her into Clutch Grandma.) 6 Link to comment
miamama March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said: References to Dina were dropped a couple of times back in early December. I commented at the time wondering whether that meant Dina was returning. Then, yeah, Jack recently insinuated to Ashley that push come to shove, he's an Abbott and she's actually not so don't test him. I agree that it's good they're actually following up on the Dina mentions and weren't just being random. I barely remember her but wasn't she sort of what like Nikki is now, a socialite who acted like she was more royal than the Queen? (Or at least how Nikki was until they recently started turning her into Clutch Grandma.) Okay, interesting. So that's where they're going for sure. Dina was old money snob ice-cold elegance. So in that sense not like Nikki. Or maybe like Nikki wishes she were? But I always liked her. It was probably because Jack was shamelessly her favourite. Since everyone on earth will hate Jack for going dirty with Ashley's paternity, at least he'll have his mother on his side. Or knowing this show, no. She'll take Ashley's side. Or somehow comfort Billy because Ashley won't be his blood sister any more. RME. 7 Link to comment
livvie March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 Dina was first brought on round about the Aaron Spelling "Dynasty" time period as sort of an Alexis Carrington-esque first wife to John Abbott? Both were faithless wives who had very little maternal instincts and abandoned their children and left them with their wealthy and loving fathers. 6 Link to comment
Anna Yolei March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 44 minutes ago, miamama said: Since everyone on earth will hate Jack for going dirty with Ashley's paternity, at least he'll have his mother on his side. Or knowing this show, no. She'll take Ashley's side. Or somehow comfort Billy because Ashley won't be his blood sister any more. RME. Oh, GOD no! If they try to Ridge/Bridget those two, Y&R really will be dead to me. ? 6 Link to comment
KnotsLanding March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 I don't want Ashley's paternity brought up at all and I don't think Sussman would be stupid enough to do that. John is dead and she's almost 60....what does it matter? I have no clue why she's returning but I hope it's more interesting than that. Also, Traci is returning as well. She filmed today with Eileen. I LOVED Dina's return for Katherine's fake funeral so I look forward to this. I'd much rather someone like Dina around than Gloria. I'd also like to see Mamie return. I understand John is gone, but you have elements of the Abbott family that can be utilized still. 5 Link to comment
crosby777 March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 Quote Gina is REALLY wanting that Phyllis/Billy pairing. Who can blame her.. PB is a lot older than GT is.. and GT has seen the philly stans really wanting the pairing.. she did not get that with the jack Phyllis pairi 1 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 (edited) Quote I don't want Ashley's paternity brought up at all and I don't think Sussman would be stupid enough to do that. John is dead and she's almost 60....what does it matter? Ordinarily I'd agree with this but I think if Ashley tries to wrest control of Jabot away from Jack by trying to play the Abbott card then I'm okay with Jack going nuclear. Ashley is at loose ends because she doesn't have anything else to focus attention on, plus she won't let the Phyllis thing go. Why should Jabot suffer from unnecessary family warfare because she can't get her panties unbunched? Plus, Victor also lowkey threatened Ashley on the same score back during the whole Paragon virus crap. I doubt he'd do it--mainly because of the effect on Abby--but I wouldn't put it past him to find a way to justify it if he felt he needed to protect The Family. Frankly I'd rather see Jack use the info to keep Jabot under Abbott control than let Victor use it to take Jabot. Edited March 10, 2017 by Joimiaroxeu a is not e 5 Link to comment
crosby777 March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 Quote Are we supposed to forget Chloe is insane? We are supposed to forget Sharon is insane so I guess Chloe is getting the same free pass. 2 Link to comment
KnotsLanding March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 43 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said: Ordinarily I'd agree with this but I think if Ashley tries to wrest control of Jabot away from Jack by trying to play the Abbott card then I'm okay with Jack going nuclear. Ashley is at loose ends because she doesn't have anything else to focus attention on, plus she won't let the Phyllis thing go. Why should Jabot suffer from unnecessary family warfare because she can't get her panties unbunched? Plus, Victor also lowkey threatened Ashley on the same score back during the whole Paragon virus crap. I doubt he'd do it--mainly because of the affect on Abby--but I wouldn't put it past him to find a way to justify it if he felt he needed to protect The Family. Frankly I'd rather see Jack use the info to keep Jabot under Abbott control than let Victor use it to take Jabot. Ashley has precedent though, since Jack has already cost the Abbott's Jabot before. If he played that card against Ashley I feel it would be kinda unforgivable and very dark, but I'd be down if they played it right. They'd just have to go for it and sell the hell out of it. That would be a bigger feud than Jack vs Billy. To me he's been such a bad son, brother and family member throughout the years so I will always support Ashley or Traci over him when it comes to Jabot. Link to comment
Big Blue Plate March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, KnotsLanding said: They'd just have to go for it and sell the hell out of it. That would be a bigger feud than Jack vs Billy. To me he's been such a bad son, brother and family member throughout the years so I will always support Ashley or Traci over him when it comes to Jabot. If not a permanent feud at least a permanent unforgiven and unforgotten. Two strains of a warring family could be interesting. But I really don't know how much more interesting Sally can make this show, unless she's going so far back in history everyone has to wear togas. 2 Link to comment
miamama March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 5 hours ago, KnotsLanding said: Ashley has precedent though, since Jack has already cost the Abbott's Jabot before. If he played that card against Ashley I feel it would be kinda unforgivable and very dark, but I'd be down if they played it right. They'd just have to go for it and sell the hell out of it. That would be a bigger feud than Jack vs Billy. To me he's been such a bad son, brother and family member throughout the years so I will always support Ashley or Traci over him when it comes to Jabot. The show pushed this Horrible Evil (as bad as Billy, in other words) Jack lost Jabot thing recently with a Ghost John visit but that is not what happened. Jack told his father to go public, which John chose to do (he wasn't manipulated, simply advised, and ultimately the decision was his) and Victor snapped it up using some insider trading. And then for the next however many years Jack tried to get it back and finally succeeded with exactly zero help from his siblings. In fact a few times Ashley told him to just let it go. At other times she took Victor's side. Jack is the only one who has been committed to Jabot. When Ashley was even working at Jabot and not in L.A., or wherever, she was a chemist and really didn't have interest in the executive side of things except for a brief few stints over the years when she had no love life (ie the writers didn't know what to do with her). Jack's no saint but he's absolutely the rightful CEO of Jabot. Traci and Billy have had basically nothing to do with it and Ashley's commitment is on and off. Sally has rewritten things to make all the Abbott children equal in the business and in the house. Jack owned the house outright (which was stated during the Gloria era). But now they all claim to co-own it, which is ridiculous. A man of Jack's wealth and age would not have to share his ONLY house with siblings who additionally have other homes. He would have bought them out years ago (which is what had happened but Sally undid). I think she wants to create friction among the Abbott siblings to equalize them in a sense. But it all comes at Jack's expense and it's bullshit. I do agree that Jack using her paternity would be pretty bad and I would think legally pointless. I mean she is legally John's child, right? But it would fuel drama, bring up history and shake things up without a big ass retcon. Despite this it will suck. The writing in the scenes with Traci and Ashley re: their father (Sally's early episodes in December) had some of the most horrid lines I've seen on television. "Daddy would say WE ARE ABBOTTS. We can get through ANYTHING." ugh. Just having history isn't good enough. You still need to WRITE good dialogue. 15 Link to comment
peacheslatour March 9, 2017 Share March 9, 2017 Quote A man of Jack's wealth and age would not have to share his ONLY house with siblings who additionally have other homes. He would have bought them out years ago (which is what had happened but Sally undid). This is true. I feel that way about a lot of the characters on Show. We're supposed to believe that all these gazillionaires live in hotels, lame suburban tract houses and um..in the cases of Ashley, Abby and Phyllis apparently no where at all. And don't get me started on Rancho Lame-o and the tacky house. Sharon is the exception because I adore her cottage. 14 Link to comment
spinxella March 11, 2017 Share March 11, 2017 (edited) Edited March 11, 2017 by spinxella 4 Link to comment
miamama March 11, 2017 Share March 11, 2017 Brent Boyd, a writer who came with JFP I believe, just tweeted he's done at Y&R. I expected this to happen. Sally continues to put her team in place. Fun fact: Boyd was the writer who had to be kept hidden so Muhney wouldn't bug him so much. lol. Both MM and BB confirmed this (they seem to be on good terms). 3 Link to comment
babyhouseman March 11, 2017 Share March 11, 2017 2 hours ago, spinxella said: So we won't find out the paternity of Delia 2.0? 1 Link to comment
MollyB March 11, 2017 Share March 11, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, babyhouseman said: So we won't find out the paternity of Delia 2.0? I really, really, truly don't care. There, I said it. Nothing since Bhloe has returned has made me in the least curious as to paternity. Don't care if it's Kevin's or OhsonoteverneverBilly's or (as I said before) belongs to some one near the mental facility she was in and is desperately trying to find their stolen child. Guess it will be Kevin's (The New Improved International Man of Mystery) since Chloe is either going to 'die' *meaning there will be a crash-explosion-fire and no body will be recovered* or she will be carted back to the mental facility she escaped from and Kev gets sole custody. Anyhow, don't care about Bhloe and her rugrat. Thanks to the fans for your support & constructive criticism. So they do read this board! Edited March 11, 2017 by MollyB premature posting 11 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu March 11, 2017 Share March 11, 2017 Quote Brent Boyd, a writer who came with JFP I believe, just tweeted he's done at Y&R. I expected this to happen. Sally continues to put her team in place. Fun fact: Boyd was the writer who had to be kept hidden so Muhney wouldn't bug him so much. lol. Both MM and BB confirmed this (they seem to be on good terms). I didn't realize Boyd was still around. JT's version of Billy now makes more sense to me. The reason it seemed like they had transferred most of Adam's personality to Billy is probably because Boyd was writing Billy's dialogue. Someone else seems to be on the job now though, what with Billy's recent change to Teen Boy Whisperer and All Around Swell Guy. If Adam ever does return he's likely going to be more like JH's version and less like the second coming of Don Draper. 4 Link to comment
Capricasix March 14, 2017 Share March 14, 2017 (edited) YOU GUYS click through to read the whole article! JH as Aquaman ? http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/aquaman/47413/aquaman-revisiting-the-tv-pilot Edited March 14, 2017 by Capricasix 2 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu March 14, 2017 Share March 14, 2017 Quote JH as Aquaman Yeah, JH is cute and all but he's no Jason Momoa. 6 Link to comment
Capricasix March 14, 2017 Share March 14, 2017 I f*cking love Jason Momoa. Ever since Stargate Atlantis. 6 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 So I'm watching a DVD movie called The Nice Guys starring Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling and who should pop up playing a coked out porn star but Yvonne Zima, our beloved former Daisy. She seems to be keeping her career afloat with these odd little appearances here and there. 4 Link to comment
dbklmt March 17, 2017 Share March 17, 2017 http://daytimeconfidential.com/2017/03/16/chuck-pratt-out-at-star 4 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu March 17, 2017 Share March 17, 2017 Be afraid, GH and DAYS fans. Be very afraid. 4 Link to comment
peacheslatour March 17, 2017 Share March 17, 2017 Just now, Joimiaroxeu said: Be afraid, GH and DAYS fans. Be very afraid. I wonder if his reputation will preclude anyone in television from hiring him. Probably have to go work in Branson at some low rent dinner theater. 6 Link to comment
Anna Yolei March 17, 2017 Share March 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said: Be afraid, GH and DAYS fans. Be very afraid. I thought he'd already worked for one of those shows? But that's the thing with soaps versus the rest of Hollywood; they can't fill these spots, so the shows (minus B&B, which is its on set of issues) are using the same handfull of morons that helped run the genre into the ground. And on it goes. 7 Link to comment
Artsda March 18, 2017 Share March 18, 2017 6 hours ago, peacheslatour said: I wonder if his reputation will preclude anyone in television from hiring him. Probably have to go work in Branson at some low rent dinner theater. He's actually not the one being blamed, Lee Daniels is since this show is now looking for it's 3rd showrunner. Link to comment
boes March 18, 2017 Share March 18, 2017 7 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said: Be afraid, GH and DAYS fans. Be very afraid. Days has already had its dose of fear. Ron Carlivati is taking over there. 8 Link to comment
peacheslatour March 18, 2017 Share March 18, 2017 ^^^Well, that oughta frost Hilary's cake! 11 Link to comment
valleycliffe March 19, 2017 Share March 19, 2017 LOL i'm surprised he's not wearing a maga hat . 8 Link to comment
ezzylin March 19, 2017 Share March 19, 2017 Guys, if you still can't get enough of JM's, um, "charm"- his acting debut in the Lifetime movie "My Stepson, My Lover" is available on YouTube for your viewing pleasure. Enjoy! 5 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu March 19, 2017 Share March 19, 2017 Quote Lifetime movie "My Stepson, My Lover" The IMDb reviews for this are hilarious. 5 Link to comment
Big Blue Plate March 20, 2017 Share March 20, 2017 12 hours ago, valleycliffe said: LOL i'm surprised he's not wearing a maga hat . I'm surprised he can read. 13 Link to comment
valleycliffe March 22, 2017 Share March 22, 2017 (edited) emmy noms are out. got this list from soc http://soapcentral.com/emmys/news/2017/0322-emmy_noms_list.php no sharon case, no camryn grimes.. alyvia got in tho. gt and hhk made the list...wish there was a roll eyes emoticon.. Edited March 22, 2017 by valleycliffe 8 Link to comment
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