biakbiak October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 The fact that none of the prostitutes have come out with their story makes me think Hof is waiting until drugs have cleared their system and Hot will at most do an 80/20 split when he brokers the deal. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609047
maryis1 October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) Why would his kids be pushed aside? Khloe paid for them to fly out to be with their dad, so they clearly aren't an afterthought here. You obviously misunderstand what I meant. I was speaking of the paparazzi pushing the kids aside to get photos of a "grieving" Kris. She is, after all, the secondary money shot (the primary money shot being a deathbed picture of Lamar) because of how much she is loathed and viewed as the puppeteer of this rag tag, uneducated bunch who has built a dynasty on a piece of porn her daughter starred in. Just look at the first stories that came out. All of them focused on Kris managing the "brand" for the best publicity. And now that Caitlyn is arriving, you really think that paps are going to be focused on his children? God help them if they get in the way of a pap trying to get a shot of Caitlyn. I also have the feeling that Lamar was kept in good graces with Kris is because his addiction and drug use was directly connected to Rob's use during that time. Be nice to Lamar and there is less of a chance that he will speak out against anyone in the family including Rob. As far as Khloe goes, I do believe that her words of affection and love for Lamar even after they split were genuine. Edited October 16, 2015 by maryis1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609178
mizkat October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 This! All of it. I get that someone coming into a room of a coma patient and talking to them may seem ridiculous but I can imagine it's more or less for the people who are saying goodbye to this person and for the other relatives and close people who are in need of support. I have to say that this is the one exception that the Kardashians have a right to make it all about them. I'm not a fan at. all. but this is so tragic. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609202
howmanywords October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 There were pics all over twitter yesterday of Lamar's children and ex arriving at the hospital looking distraught so no, they aren't being pushed aside and tbh I actually cringed that paparazzi did take pics of them. The Kardashians asked for the fame, these kids didn't. All the major outlets are also posting the statement they made thanking everyone for all the prayers. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609355
thefog October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) You obviously misunderstand what I meant. I was speaking of the paparazzi pushing the kids aside to get photos of a "grieving" Kris. She is, after all, the secondary money shot (the primary money shot being a deathbed picture of Lamar) because of how much she is loathed and viewed as the puppeteer of this rag tag, uneducated bunch who has built a dynasty on a piece of porn her daughter starred in. Just look at the first stories that came out. All of them focused on Kris managing the "brand" for the best publicity. And now that Caitlyn is arriving, you really think that paps are going to be focused on his children? God help them if they get in the way of a pap trying to get a shot of Caitlyn. I also have the feeling that Lamar was kept in good graces with Kris is because his addiction and drug use was directly connected to Rob's use during that time. Be nice to Lamar and there is less of a chance that he will speak out against anyone in the family including Rob. As far as Khloe goes, I do believe that her words of affection and love for Lamar even after they split were genuine. So instead the paps should be hounding his under age kids??? Your comment about Rob doesn't make any sense. There is no proof he was using drugs. Even if there was, why would Lamar saying anything - since he would be incriminating himself. IMO, the fame monger in this situation has been the annoying Dennis Hof. Edited October 16, 2015 by escape 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609369
Petunia13 October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 This is so sad. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609494
Darknight October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 My heart breaks for his children. I hope someone protects them from the media 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609610
sleekandchic October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Horribly sad and tragic. I loved Lamar, warts and all. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609788
howmanywords October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Lamar Odom - Ray of Hope!!! Heart is Responding Lamar Odom's condition has improved in a hugely important way ... his heart is on the mend ... TMZ has learned.Sources familiar with the situation tell us, tests on Lamar's heart Friday morning revealed his heart function is "much better." Doctors have told Lamar's friends and family this is a good sign of improvement, that a critical organ is responding.Doctors have asked for "calm" in Lamar's room because they do not want him stimulated .... because non-stimulation promotes healing.Toward that end, doctors have ordered that virtually no one have access to Lamar's room. We're told Khloe is still by Lamar's bedside. I also read that Wed night he squeezed Khloe's hand. Hopefully these are all leading to more positive signs. Khloe really is showing what unconditional love is. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609831
Cocoa Puff October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 https://twitter.com/KTNV/status/655045176616951808 What an utter ass! He makes Pimpmomma look like Mother Teresa 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609851
Cocoa Puff October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 A good sign....But still a very long road if he recovers. http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/16/lamar-odom-heart-responding/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609932
sleekandchic October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) Those tmz stories coming from unnamed sources "familiar with the situation" remind me of the stories that came out after Kim gave birth to North -- so many of them silly and inaccurate. I can even "hear" the same voices "sharing" the inside scoop on the current sutuation. I don't trust the info at all. I do not believe that Lamar squeezed Khloe's hand nor do I believe that his heart function is significantly improving. I have no idea why the unnamed source is telling tmz inaccurate stuff, other than maybe the source has a relationship with tmz that s/he wants to preserve and, so, continues to ingratiate him/herself with Harvey Levin, feeding him anything at all that could be considered "exclusive" and insider-generated. Truth is not important. Lamar is, for all intents and purposes, gone. I'm sure of it. Edited October 16, 2015 by sleekandchic 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609935
Artsda October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Caitlyn got there last night, according to the NYDN, so it makes sense they'd support Khloe in shifts so she's not alone instead of 8 of them there with her at once. Just look at the first stories that came out. All of them focused on Kris managing the "brand" for the best publicity. And now that Caitlyn is arriving, you really think that paps are going to be focused on his children? They shouldn't be focused on the children, why would anyone want that? They're his children and not public celebrities. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609964
iwasish October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 I agree too - and I am going to say something that I am not sure if I am agreeing with you all or not but: We also go to say our goodbyes to comfort the family members of the dying - my aunt was on life support, and our family members we summoned to the hospital to "say goodbye" and we did - in this case not to comfort the aunt on life support, but the uncle and cousin who were so relieved to have us come, escort us to the room to say something meaningful, etc. The husband and son, in this case, were in need of family showing up to love their wife/mom. And then we went for dinner as a group, after which they ended life support. It's a sad time for all involved. It's nice when you can actually have an idea about how you can help those involved feel better :) Edited because I forgot to add that Dennis Hof is a big old jerk. That's all. I agree. As my mom told me about wakes and funerals "You're not going for the dead, you're going for the living who lost someone they love and need your support" 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1609998
grisgris October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 I saw a cover of a tabloid at the supermarket and the headline was some kind of ridiculous manufactured drama between Kim and Kate Middleton. Seriously? Next thing we'll see is that Kendall is dating Prince Harry! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1610073
Cocoa Puff October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) I get their frustrations but like it or not Lamar is a high profile patient and is very ill, last time I checked there are no private ICU rooms. Also they hospital is doing the right thing by locking down that ICU unit it cuts down the traffic to immediate medical staff that's need for those patients only. I can't imagine being bombarded with questions like that just because my loved one is a few rooms down from the VIP. It's only going to get worse from here... http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-lamar-odom-hospital-inside-view-20151015-story.html Edited October 16, 2015 by carolinagirl81 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1610212
MarysWetBar October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 You know what? I have worked in hospitals for years and celebrities are certainly not the only "loud" visitors, or the only ones causing "ruckus". I am sure the staff of the ICU has it under control. You can bet your ass that he is not receiving any more care than the lady's daughter is, unless his CARE PLAN calls for it, which it likely does, as he has multiple organ failure, last I read. Her daughter has a bowel obstruction. Most patients in ICU are so sick or sedated, they notice nothing...nothing. Once they are alert enough to be responding to stimuli, they are usually shipped out to the medical floors. Lamar is a patient to those staff...no one more important than any other patient in there. Two of the worst families I ever dealt with in my almost 30 year career: The Muslim family that wanted to inspect every device, staff lunch, visitor to the unit to make sure everything was according to their belief system and the Mormon family with 15 children, 65 grandchildren and assorted church people who wanted to all be in the unit all the time..day and night...during procedures, etc....total lack of trust in the medical staff. Give me a few NBA guys visiting any day, cus you know they are there out of respect, cant stand to see their buddy in that condition, and will get the hell out of the way as fast as they can cus it makes them uncomfortable to even be in that setting. Lamar is a patient there...his family is the same as every other family and deserves to be treated exactly the same. Period. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1610448
Veronique Bette October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 If I were those family members, I'd be more annoyed by the intrusive reporter who got past security and was bothering me with questions so that he could have an angle for his Lamar Odom story. I doubt that any of Lamar's visitors were "partying" given the grimness of his situation. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1610527
Bronzedog October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 There is no good way to say this, but, my feelings on the subject come from personal experience with my mother - is it really good news that Lamar's heart is improving if his brain is badly damaged? I don't know that it is. We said goodbye to my mother 3 times because she rebounded twice. But, her quality of life was zilch. So, if your heart is keeping you alive, but, you have no life, is that good? 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1610734
LADreamr October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) There is no good way to say this, but, my feelings on the subject come from personal experience with my mother - is it really good news that Lamar's heart is improving if his brain is badly damaged?That was my first thought, as well. The condition of the rest of the organs doesn't mean much if the brain is in such a bad place, or not coming back at all. His situation sounds terribly sad.ETA: On the other hand, possibly wonderful news. Edited October 16, 2015 by LADreamr Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1610863
Thula October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 There is SUCH a wide range of reports on Lamar's status. I'm reading he opened his eyes and spoke and is breathing on his own, and I'm reading he's barely made any improvement and fluttered his eyes for a moment in the middle of the night. And as late as early this morning, other media outlets were reporting he was brain dead. I'm inclined to believe he must be improving or the Kardashians wouldn't have flown back to LA. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1610893
MsSilverSpecs October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 I'm hoping he does improve for the fact that he's still young and has a chance to turn his life around and that that's a tragic legacy to leave to your children if he does die. My heart goes out to them. Addiction is such an awful disease. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1610921
represent October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) Well MSNBC just said that he's up and breathing on his own. Edited October 16, 2015 by represent Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611042
HumblePi October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) There is no good way to say this, but, my feelings on the subject come from personal experience with my mother - is it really good news that Lamar's heart is improving if his brain is badly damaged? I don't know that it is. We said goodbye to my mother 3 times because she rebounded twice. But, her quality of life was zilch. So, if your heart is keeping you alive, but, you have no life, is that good? There is no right or wrong, good or bad way to say what can potentiallly be Lamar Odom's destiny. The Terri Schiavo case comes to mind. For those who aren't familiar with Terri Schiavo, she was only 27 years old when she collapsed from sudden arrhythmia death syndrome. She was unconscious and unresponsive. There was a legal struggle about end of life care that went on for many years. She was diagnosed to be in a irreversible persistant vegetative state even though she was awake. She was kept alive with a feeding tube from 1990 to 2005. Schiavo's husband and legal guardian argued that Schiavo would not have wanted prolonged artificial life support without the prospect of recovery, and elected to remove her feeding tube. Schiavo's parents argued in favor of continuing artificial nutrition and hydration and challenged Schiavo's medical diagnosis.The highly publicized and prolonged series of legal challenges presented by her parents, which ultimately involved state and federal politicians up to the level of President George W. Bush, caused a seven-year delay before Schiavo's feeding tube was ultimately removed. After a very long and very publicized case, Terri Schiavo was removed from her feeding tube and died peacefully days later. Terri Schiavo had suffered severe anoxic (without oxygen) brain injury. If Lamar Odom's heart was found to be improved since his admission, that says little regarding his prognosis since he has no brain activity and he's in kidney failure and having dialysis done to clean his blood from toxins. Khloe will have to make the decision, and if she can't someone will have to step up and make it for her. Lamar can't be left to linger for weeks, months or longer. Khloe has to realize that she's not taking his life away from him. His life ended on Tuesday. It's time for the family and friends to prepare his eulogy and remember the good things about him. Edited October 16, 2015 by HumblePi 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611051
Maysie October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 The reports seem so extreme -- organ failure to optimistic recovery (I mean, a thumbs up and "hey baby" sound like an optimistic scenario). I haven't read all that much about the situation, but have any hospital officials commented on his condition? Otherwise, I don't believe anything until he's out of the hospital, one way or the other. There's so much bad and misinformation floating around the internet; even when "legitimate" news outlets, such as the major networks, report something it's often not based in fact but on "reliable sources" that speak to outlets such as TMZ and E!, etc. Fact-checking and verifying increasingly seem to be things of the past and in a situation like this when people who actually know what's going on aren't making statements (because, I don't know, they actually have important stuff to do), the media will grasp on to anything to keep the story alive because it's a big story. This is a sensational story and it becomes more sensational if Lamar speaks/moves/breathes on his own. There may also be some positive spin going on; it may all be true; it may be a pack of lies fed to the press by some disturbed person who gets their kicks out of feeding the press a bunch of bs. I'm not ready to write him off as dead yet, however, I'll believe he's in real recovery status if/when an actual doctor connected to the case makes a statement. The one thing I do believe in all this is that Khloe is front and center. Though I don't watch any of the shows, I can't say I have any positive feelings about her; it's often guilt by association with this crew, for me. However, I do respect the fact that she appears to be present in every sense of the word in this ordeal, which can't be an easy thing. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611130
hendersonrocks October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 There is so much stuff flying around it's hard to know what's really happening. But if Lamar really DID wake up and say "hey baby" to Khloe, OMG. I truly cannot imagine the emotional roller coaster she's on. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611182
Kromm October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Lamar Odom - Ray of Hope!!! Heart is Responding I also read that Wed night he squeezed Khloe's hand. Hopefully these are all leading to more positive signs. Khloe really is showing what unconditional love is. There are so many contrasting reports it's hard to know how any of them can be believed at this point. The one advantage that a report from E! has is that they own the Kardashians lock, stock and barrel. Which doesn't say what they report is the truth mind you... just that unlike lets say TMZ it's likely to be the Kardshian party line. So if E! reports it and it turns out to be BS, we could conclude it's because of the Ks (vs. TMZ, who's relationship with the Ks has been more of mutually taking advantage of each other over the years, but no actual contractually bound loyalty). 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611184
HumblePi October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 This is a sensational story and it becomes more sensational if Lamar speaks/moves/breathes on his own. There may also be some positive spin going on; it may all be true; it may be a pack of lies fed to the press by some disturbed person who gets their kicks out of feeding the press a bunch of bs. I'm not ready to write him off as dead yet, however, I'll believe he's in real recovery status if/when an actual doctor connected to the case makes a statement. I'm in total agreement. There's just too much attention here and that prompts the press to jump at anything right now. The majority of the information is totally erroneous and heresay. It's put out there for the public to get hits on their websites. We haven't yet heard a single statement made from an official spokesperson from Sunrise Hospital. We have heard reports from so-called 'family spokesman', whoever that is, and not from a hospital officlal with a public statement. There's just too much incorrect information that leads people into believing whatever they want. "Lamar is breathing on his own" "Lamar opened his eyes and told Khloe that he loves her" "Lamar's heart is improved". That's all rumors and not to be taken seriously. Wait for the official hospital to speak before we believe anything. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611207
iwasish October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 There were similar reports coming out about Bobbi Kristina. I'll believe he's doing better when I see it. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611273
bagatelle October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Kim and Kanye went underwent an IVF gender-selection process this spring to predetermine baby No. 2’s sex. The procedure isn't cheap, but money isn't an issue in their case. The egg selection procedure in which only male fertilized eggs were placed inside her uterus costs around $20,000. Many doctors refuse to perform this invasive procedure just for sex selection, and some people are troubled by what eventually becomes of the embryos of the unwanted sex, which may be frozen or discarded. The choosing of the sex of your children is just one added benefit of being filthy rich. The only thing money isn't able to control is preeclampsia and gestational diabetes. Hopefully for Kim, her diabetes will only be temporary and not a permanent part of her life. Kim is at higher risk for developing type 2 diabetes down the road. It's no wonder that Kanye has a God complex, he can choose what the sex of his child will be. Kim will most likely have a very fat little baby and I'm certain she'll be going to see Terry Dubrow or some other plastic surgeon soon after giving birth for her vaginoplasty. I was under the impression they did IVF both times because doing it the old fashioned way would require them actually doing it. Eh i dont find it surprising. I know Kanye is extremely hated but spending time caring for children that are his family is shocking? There were pics recently of North playing soccer and you can see him in back of her helping her and when Scott and Kourtney broke up Kim and Kanye were really great with those kids IIRC they took them to NYC for 4thvof July weekend..Kanye even took Mason to the movies. Mason's nanny was in the background. In fact, if you look at pictures, you can see all the nannies in the background. Do you think Kourt would trust her kids, who she dotes on, with Kanye all by himself? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611287
Coffeecup October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) I hope the NBC reports are true. They said Lamar is off the ventilator and breathing on his own, and that he is able to speak. That would mean he’s not brain dead. About Dennis Hof, yes, he’s a sleazebag, but still I’m glad to see someone tell the Kardashian publicity machine to go to hell. I have a question about Khloe and Lamar’s marital status. I know their divorce is not final yet because the judge hasn’t signed off on it, and that’s why Khloe has the authority to make medical decisions for Lamar. If it takes six months for the judge to get past the backlog and sign the final decree, then that would be in December (counting from July when K&L signed the final papers). So what happens in November when they are officially divorced? Will the hospital just ask Khloe to leave? Who will be in charge of Lamar’s treatment then? Anybody think Khloe will try to cancel the divorce? Lamar isn’t able to do anything about it right now. Could she cancel the divorce without his agreement? Or will she be content to let the divorce go through in November, and hand over Lamar’s care to someone else? I don’t think Lamar’s father is capable of handling Lamar’s care, but maybe his aunt could do it. Does he have a lawyer who could handle it? I know he had to have had a divorce lawyer. Edited October 16, 2015 by Coffeecup Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611346
Bronzedog October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 If Lamar is actually recovering, and I hope he is, I assume when he's released, he'll move in with Khloe so she can take care of him. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611347
Cocoa Puff October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 I am happy that he seems to be alert and orientated after being in a coma, on life support and sedation medications. Hopefully as he comes out of this that there isn't too much of brain trauma that'll effect his thinking and motor skills. I firmly believe that Khloe will be by his side and as he recovers they'll get back together. And if he doesn't change his life around after this then he'll be such a fool. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611390
howmanywords October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2015/10/16/lamar-odom-open-eyes-communicate-hospital/74061822/ Lamar's former coach says a bit more about where he's at now..and if that's true that he nodded to her saying "you know I love you right" then I'll be surprised if they don't end up back together, and God willing he will be able to recover and heal. Eta: Lamar's aunt is also saying he's alert and speaking. Edited October 16, 2015 by howmanywords 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611415
Honey October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Such great news. I was one of the few who hadn't written him off. I hope he continues to improve. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611514
GaT October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 "Lamar opened his eyes and told Khloe that he loves her" This is why we can't believe anything, I read something, somewhere that said the opposite, that Khloe was the one who said "You know I love you" & Lamar nodded, but didn't say anything. The reports seem so extreme -- organ failure to optimistic recovery (I mean, a thumbs up and "hey baby" sound like an optimistic scenario). I haven't read all that much about the situation, but have any hospital officials commented on his condition? We haven't yet heard a single statement made from an official spokesperson from Sunrise Hospital. I don't think the hospital can just decide to make a statement about Lamar's status, or even confirm that he's been admitted there. It would fall under HIPAA rules. They can't just release medical information. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611559
Cocoa Puff October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 This is why we can't believe anything, I read something, somewhere that said the opposite, that Khloe was the one who said "You know I love you" & Lamar nodded, but didn't say anything. I don't think the hospital can just decide to make a statement about Lamar's status, or even confirm that he's been admitted there. It would fall under HIPAA rules. They can't just release medical information. No they can't unless Khole says it's okay for the doctors to issue a statement. So all this info is second hand from either a paid off hospital worker or Khole's assistant or whomever she's been in contact with about Lamar's condition. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611624
howmanywords October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Here's the statement from Lamar's aunt and another article where Kris confirmed to Billy Bush of Access Hollywood that he's speaking. Keeping hope alive. Lamar Odom's maternal aunt, JaNean Mercer, confirmed on Friday, Oct. 16, that the former NBA star had opened his eyes and regained consciousness after three days in critical condition at Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas. Mercer's rep, Alvina Alson, tells Us Weekly that Odom, 35, "gave a thumbs-up to the doctors this morning and said a few words to them." Alson noted, however, that she would not be answering any other questions about his condition, and said the family was "continuously praying and trusting in the doctors' care." http://www.accesshollywood.com/articles/kris-jenner-lamar-odom-opened-eyes-has-spoken-khloe/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611712
represent October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 I'm just glad that Khloe doesn't have to make any decision on whether or not Lamar lives or dies now. I couldn't imagine, and you know if she had decided to pull the plug she would have been crucified like no other. I like Khloe, she's always been my favorite of this phony bunch. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611772
hottesthw October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Kim and Kanye went underwent an IVF gender-selection process this spring to predetermine baby No. 2’s sex. The procedure isn't cheap, but money isn't an issue in their case. The egg selection procedure in which only male fertilized eggs were placed inside her uterus costs around $20,000. Many doctors refuse to perform this invasive procedure just for sex selection, and some people are troubled by what eventually becomes of the embryos of the unwanted sex, which may be frozen or discarded. The choosing of the sex of your children is just one added benefit of being filthy rich. The only thing money isn't able to control is preeclampsia and gestational diabetes. Hopefully for Kim, her diabetes will only be temporary and not a permanent part of her life. Kim is at higher risk for developing type 2 diabetes down the road. It's no wonder that Kanye has a God complex, he can choose what the sex of his child will be. Kim will most likely have a very fat little baby and I'm certain she'll be going to see Terry Dubrow or some other plastic surgeon soon after giving birth for her vaginoplasty. He ain't that special. The procedure actually costs a fraction of that so lots of regular folk have it done all the time. Kim and her fake pregnancy illnesses make me sick. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611807
GaT October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Here's the statement from Lamar's aunt and another article where Kris confirmed to Billy Bush of Access Hollywood that he's speaking. http://www.accesshollywood.com/articles/kris-jenner-lamar-odom-opened-eyes-has-spoken-khloe/ Yeah, well, here's a statement from Bobby Brown saying Bobbi Kristina was awake & that never happened, so who knows if it's true. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611858
Kromm October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 I was under the impression they did IVF both times because doing it the old fashioned way would require them actually doing it. I gotta assume you're joking here, since IVF is a few steps up the chain past simple artificial insemination. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611897
MissE October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Yeah, well, here's a statement from Bobby Brown saying Bobbi Kristina was awake & that never happened, so who knows if it's true. To me the situation isn't the same. Bobby Brown and that family are super messed up. What do Kris and Lamar's aunt, have to gain by saying he's awake and speaking, if he's not. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611979
HumblePi October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 He ain't that special. The procedure actually costs a fraction of that so lots of regular folk have it done all the time. Kim and her fake pregnancy illnesses make me sick. Actually no. Although IVF is very common and covered by most insurances. The process of 'sperm sorting' is a giant step further than IVF. The procedure to identify and select only the fertilized egg of a specific sex is very expensive. The process improves the chances that the baby conceived will be of the desired sex. MicroSort technology is only available for those in the United States through labarotories located outside the US. MicroSort technology and the process is performed in labatories in Guadalajara, Mexico, Mexico City, North Cyprus and Switzerland. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611980
howmanywords October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 That comment from Bobby Brown is completely different than everything being said about Lamar. Someone even said in the video on that site that he never made it clear if she was actually awake and conscious or if he simply meant he believed in some way she was watching him (it was also confirmed back then that her eyes WERE opening occasionally but it was a reflex). Three different sources are saying Lamar is speaking and making hand gestures - but everyone is free to believe or doubt as they choose. A source close to Bobbi Kristina's father told ET on Sunday that this isn't the first time Bobby has said this. According to the source, he has claimed that Bobbi Kristina is "aware" that her family is there when they visit. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1611995
represent October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 (edited) And while any news network can get it wrong, I'm buying what MSNBC is selling and they called it at five PM that he was up. And this is not a network that has been covering this story at nauseum because they fill up their programming with politics and world affairs. So when they covered it briefly with like a three minute update, I was inclined to believe what I was hearing. Edited October 17, 2015 by represent 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1612014
hottesthw October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 Actually no. Although IVF is very common and covered by most insurances. The process of 'sperm sorting' is a giant step further than IVF. The procedure to identify and select only the fertilized egg of a specific sex is very expensive. The process improves the chances that the baby conceived will be of the desired sex. MicroSort technology is only available for those in the United States through labarotories located outside the US. MicroSort technology and the process is performed in labatories in Guadalajara, Mexico, Mexico City, North Cyprus and Switzerland. A chromosome test on fertilized embryos will tell you the sex of the baby before implantation. Happens all the time for about $5000. Now what these idiots had done in cannot say, but for couples here who need this test for medical reasons they suffer because idiots like Kanye use this test to select the gender of their baby (even though they shouldn't), therefore insurances will not cover it. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1612047
HumblePi October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 A chromosome test on fertilized embryos will tell you the sex of the baby before implantation. Happens all the time for about $5000. Now what these idiots had done in cannot say, but for couples here who need this test for medical reasons they suffer because idiots like Kanye use this test to select the gender of their baby (even though they shouldn't), therefore insurances will not cover it. The whole point of using MicroSort technology for Kim and Kanye is because they didn't just want ANY baby, that baby HAD to be a male. This male child will end their childbearing for their lives if they remain married. IVF only fertilizes embryos, it is NOT gender specific, and gender specificosity is precisely what they demanded, insisted upon and paid in full for. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1612083
JenMcSnark October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 (edited) I truly hope and pray that Lamar makes it, but I am sure that a family seeing a loved one in that bad of shape make any sort of "gesture" such as squeezing a hand or nodding in response to a statement, is going to believe that it's a sign of improvement. There are so many contradictions, such as this from the USA Today article above: “She reached down and said ‘you know I love you’ and he kind of nodded,” Harrick said. “Three or four days after being scared to death and fearing the worst, that is a little hope, a little progress. She texted me that (information).” Completely different from the other articles and supposedly from the horse's (Khloe) mouth. I'll keep praying for all of them until I see Lamar interacting with his family myself. Edited October 17, 2015 by JenMcSnark Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1612104
MissE October 17, 2015 Share October 17, 2015 His aunt and Kris have confirmed that he's awake and speaking. He's not just making involuntary movements that the family is mistaking for improvement. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/34/#findComment-1612115
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