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I just couldn't with Steffy and the "W-a-a-a-h, Daddy! PUL-LEEZE make Mommy stay!" What Steffy really needs her Mommy for is as a reinforcement in the Logans vs. Forresters feud, which right now, seems only to be active in Steffy's head. Even Taylor and Brooke are making the right noises about peacefully moving forward. Will that actually happen? Absolutely not!

What also bugged me during the convo with Steffy and Ridge was the implication that Taylor is wanderlust and just packs up and moves away when it suits her fancy. Nope. She leaves town with her tail between her legs when it finally sinks in that again, Ridge chose Brooke. Again. The only reason why Taylor returns is when she gets the itch to try to go after Ridge. Again.

I also place at lot of the blame squarely on Sludge's slumping shoulders for encouraging Taylor, touching her, and pushing all the right buttons to give her the slightest hint of hope. That's so cruel. I was also flabbergasted when he encouraged Brooke to make friends with Taylor so "both of the special women in his life" (paraphrasing) could co-exist peacefully. No. It makes it more convenient for him. 

Also, how can a psychiatrist just randomly open and close her practice at whim. Is she treating all of her patients remotely while she's off saving the world? If I were a patient of the "RWP," I would have dumped her ages ago.  I believe that Taylor should have been outed and lost her license to practice way back when she snooped in Brooke's medical records to out her pregnancy by Bill. 

 

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14 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

The only thing I'm hoping to see is Finn and Bridget make good on all the long, meaningful glances they were giving each other during Eric's treatment. 

Bridget is 41 to Finn's ~38, so not much of an age difference, plus being Eric Forrester's daughter makes her Princess Stuffy's aunt, which could, one could only hope, cause La Principessa to spontaneously combust, causing the staff at Forrester Creations to burst into song and dance in celebration of their liberation from her draconian regime.

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I let out a snort laugh when Steffy, while extolling all of her mommy's virtues, talked about how much integrity she has. Yeah, Taylor is just oozing integrity.  

When Brooke was talking to Ridge about how she's trying to be friends with Taylor, she still should have also put her foot down with Ridge. Something like "but that doesn't mean it's OK for you to be all flirty and touchy with her. Or to start attending 'family dinners' with her without me. You and Taylor have a bond and will always be family, but you need to stick with some boundaries to keep that bond platonic and not lead her on." 

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This whole ex-wife dying so new love breaks up so he can be with her is sooooo old. The first time I saw this trope was on Hotel when Peter’s (the SCRUMPTIOUS James Brolin) ex-wife Janet (Mary Lee Crosby, recovering drug addicti or alcoholic) came strutting back to be with him because she was dying. Peter and Christine (Connie Selleca) were finally together, but that heifer Janet reveals her upcoming death, so Christine (a recovering Bulemic-though I can’t remember if we learned that yet) breaks up with Peter, and tells him to go back to his wife. He didn’t, of course, but Peter was WAAAAAAAY HAWTER than Kaye OR Moss, and a much better man and actor.

Where was I again?

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This whole Hope has a crush on Finn story line has gone from embarrassing to tediously boring.

It's only Wednesday and I am already over this week. Not sure if I can bring myself to watch two more days of these B, no, make that C story lines.

Stuffy doesn't usually wear such feminine clothing, does she? What's up with that?

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I don't know if you all caught it, because it's been super subtle in the writing, but Steffy is really happy her mother is in town and hopes she stays.  You really have to pay attention to the subtext to get it, but it's there. 

I cracked up at Steffy basically telling Hope "I'm not going to try to get my parents back together because my dad is such an unrepentant waffle that I feel confident he'll waffle his way back over to my mom for some length of time sooner or later." 

Do Steffy and Finn have anything between them other than sex and their shared worship of Steffy? 

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I vaguely remember when she was on AMC, Greenlee always wore gigantic, big shouldered jackets that swallowed her up, along with pumped out hair.  Looks like show stylists are doing the same thing to her again. 

Greenlee is so petite, when Fake Ridge hugs her, he looks like he's gonna crush her.  It's kinda unnerving.  And she turned & gave a scared look.  It was icky to watch.  Those 2 have zero chemistry.  Oh, producers, admit you made a mistake with putting Greenlee there & recast quick!

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19 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

This whole ex-wife dying so new love breaks up so he can be with her is sooooo old. The first time I saw this trope was on Hotel when Peter’s (the SCRUMPTIOUS James Brolin) ex-wife Janet (Mary Lee Crosby, recovering drug addicti or alcoholic) came strutting back to be with him because she was dying. Peter and Christine (Connie Selleca) were finally together, but that heifer Janet reveals her upcoming death, so Christine (a recovering Bulemic-though I can’t remember if we learned that yet) breaks up with Peter, and tells him to go back to his wife. He didn’t, of course, but Peter was WAAAAAAAY HAWTER than Kaye OR Moss, and a much better man and actor.

Where was I again?

Man, I did NOT expect to read a Hotel shoutout on here.  I barely remember that show except for two things:

  • Connie Selleca's character scammed her way into the job by pretending she was already Peter's assistant so she shooed away the other applicants by telling them the position was filled. (That was actually pretty smart of her, and when Peter found out, he kept her on anyway!)
  • The receptionist was married to one of the bell hops.

 

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9 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

Man, I did NOT expect to read a Hotel shoutout on here.  I barely remember that show except for two things:

  • Connie Selleca's character scammed her way into the job by pretending she was already Peter's assistant so she shooed away the other applicants by telling them the position was filled. (That was actually pretty smart of her, and when Peter found out, he kept her on anyway!)
  • The receptionist was married to one of the bell hops.

 

Don't remember the first, but I do remember the second! And I also remember watching this show had me thinking I wanted to do what Peter did when I went to college!

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Oh, producers, admit you made a mistake with putting Greenlee there & recast quick!

The producers have never admitted the error with this terrible Ridge recast ... so I'd guess admitting the new Taylor is a bad choice will never happen.

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New Taylor is like… joyless, beige tapioca.

Agreed. I never thought our last Taylor was the best actress but she brought a warmth to the character - at least when she wasn't stalking Ridge. I'd much rather have this dying Taylor storyline with KA. If the writers had Taylor/Brooke maintain their friendship (from previous Taylor) rather than throw it all away, this story might have been more interesting. As it is? ZZZZZzzzz.

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On 9/23/2024 at 9:04 AM, RuntheTable said:

I have been wondering why Ridge and Brooke have never remarried.

Some people have speculated that if B&B is in fact on the bubble of cancellation, they might be holding out a re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-remarriage for the series finale. I don't think the Bell family releasing the full show on YouTube was solely out of benevolence  or gratitude to the fanbase and posting the show online probably nets them a nice paycheck.

Personally, there are few things I care less about on this show than another Bridge wedding and I'm sure Los Angeles County's records office have approviated not having to annul their weddings every six months.

On 9/23/2024 at 12:19 PM, donovan said:

I've wished for years that Brooke would drop Ridge and never look back.  And I'm not a Brooke fan. 

Since we all know where this is going, Brooke will go back to The Stallion. Now that Katie has returned to the stable, the sisters will be fighting over him again. 

Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Speaking of things I am less invested in than Bridge, if they're never going to let Brill have peace, I wish they'd stop teasing that crap too. I'm pretty certain this is the only reason Batie is reuniting too and just...no.

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Just stop it Katie; this is what you have been gunning for ever since Poppy came back into Bill's life. Don't sit there acting unsure and suspicious because inside you are doing your happy dance as you hear Bill once again begging you and telling you how fucking wonderful you are. 

And you will continue to be wonderful until Ridge finds out Taylor is dying again, and feels he has to reconcile with her in her final days, leaving Brooke devasted. I wonder if that is why we had that odd interaction with RJ and Will? 

Brooke, Hope and Katie, in their vibrant outfits, and then we have Steffy, in a mud brown hand maiden's dress. 

Are we never to see Luna again? She's already in prison? When was the trial? It sucks because she was the most interesting thing Show had. 

 

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Do Steffy and Taylor exist just to gaslight the viewers?  "My mother would never target a relationship like that."  Really? Really?? Like her last return to town wasn't her being a heat-seeking missile headed directly for married Ridge's junk.  Let me guess, you, Steffy, also would never?  Spare us. 

Taylor's dialogue all carries an implied "because I'm dying, you see!" after every single line. How has nobody cracked the code on all of her "I am going to embrace every minute I have left," comments she's making a dozen times a day?  

I knew Katie was going to pull the exact shit she was pulling. Bill had a new woman in his life, and she got all jealous and could not tolerate it. Now that he's available and openly pursuing her, she's avoiding the question entirely. I figured after I saw rumors of Taylor's impending "death," that Katie would dither after Bill puts himself out there, and then, just when Katie is maybe ready to admit she's interested, Ridge will have married Taylor on her "deathbed," and Brooke will be free and clear. As someone who will probably never fully give up on Brill, I am preemptively resenting the show for yanking my chain, but damn Katie deserves this so much. So I'll enjoy it for whatever little bit of them I get, because Katie's pain will make it worth it. 

Will is kind of an asshole, isn't he?  Couldn't spend five minutes with his cousin without being all "dude, how could you not know you were dating a psycho murderer?"  Like him not trusting her because he was all in his feelings over daddy having a new kid makes him some kind of great judge of character and not just a petulant asshole. And, Lord, they're going to be the next generation of Hope and Steffy, as they become surrogates in the Batie vs. Brill saga, aren't they?  Not that RJ has ever been a fan of his mom being with Bill, but he's a fan of his mom, period, so Will being a dick about her will naturally have him defending Brill, even if it's not what he would prefer. 

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Was Taylor collapsing while clutching the curtain meant to be a comedy sketch? Because I laughed.

Carter wasn’t too bad at flirting. Hope seems receptive.

Guys, did you know that Finn only has eyes for Steffy? I’m kind of shocked no one has mentioned it before. Has this been going on a while?

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On 9/25/2024 at 1:05 AM, Js Nana said:

being Eric Forrester's daughter

. . . throw in the fact that Bridget is a blood Forrester, while Ridge is actually a Marone who was given the Forrester name by virtue of being Eric Forrester's stepson - and that BROOKE LOGAN(!) is her mother - and BRIDGET(!) hooking up with Finn would cause La Principessa's gigantic head to EXPLODE!  

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3 hours ago, backhometome said:

Is he an actual singer???

His name is Jökull Júlíusson, he's from Iceland, he's the lead singer for the band Kaleo and the song he sang, Way Down We Go, has been a very popular song in the US and has been used as a theme song for a number of TV shows since its release in 2015.

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At this point, Carter is kind of a joke who comes across as just horny for everyone and anyone. Now he suddenly wants Hope? Was it just her turn in the rotation?  Her name came up in his day planner this morning?  He's an attractive man, and he had insane chemistry with Quinn, but now I just can't take him seriously. He seems super thirsty and like he's just trying to find someone, anyone, willing to sleep with him. We've had exactly zero buildup to him having a thing for Hope. If anything, he seemed like he maybe had a crush on Steffy. He never so much as sent a long glance Hope's way. 

When is Finn going to get tired of Steffy's crap? I'm not even saying that wanting him to get with Hope, at this point, I'm just saying that because this is such an unhealthy, controlling, abusive relationship. And the show really needs to stop presenting it as some ideal of true love. 

I cackled at Taylor fainting, rewound, watched it again, and cackled even louder. 

Doesn't every young man want to work on putting together a video of his mother modeling lingerie?  And I fear that, if Carter talks Hope into modeling lingerie, we're going to end up with mother and daughter doing a joint lingerie shoot with their son/brother and partner/stepfather coordinating it. 

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Ugh. Lame.

That song didn't go with the lingerie video at all. I didn't understand why Hope just slunk away when Steffy banished her. Hope has as much right as Bridget did to stay for the musical performance. I didn't even think Hope was gazing at Finn. I thought she was eyeing up the singer. She said she was a huge fan of his. It wasn't her fault that the singer was being polite upon being introduced to Finn.

The chem-testing of Carp was so forced and obvious. It was just last week that Carter was twisting in the wind about whether or not to save HFTF and was actually leaning toward the decision to cut the line. Now? He wants to save the line by having HFTF to go into lingerie and have Hope model? Carter has been fantasizing about Hope in lingerie? WHAT? When did this happen? What an insult to both characters. It's like who's left? Oh, Carter and Hope. Let's throw these two rejects together just for the sake of having them be not single. 

Taylor's slo-mo collapse while tearing down the curtains was epic! 

Heart Attack Fred Sanford GIF by MOODMAN

 

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So, it looks like they have been chem testing Hope and Carter.  The thought of them as a couple doesn't make me mad; Hope with anyone other than Liam or Thomas is good with me. And as much as I wanted Steffy's world to crumble, is as much as I didn't want Hope walking down that path. Hope and Carter both have some baggage; when I think of them as a couple all I can hear is David Gilmour:

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fishbowl, year after year

Running over the same old ground, what have we found

The same old fears, wish you were here 

I think it might be interesting and fresh. 

Why did Taylor suddenly bolt down to the showroom? Was she going to spill the medical beans in order to put a stop to Brooke and Ridge's canoodling? Why are they turning Taylor into a stalker? 

The faint at the end was just plain old good soapiness with a whole lot of 

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So Bridget met J.J. when they were both on "a panel". WTF panel were they both on and for what? Just, WTF?

And why haven't we seen Zende being all, *phew* dodged that bullet, and bonding with RJ over boinking a psycho killer. It's not like they don't work together side-by-side every single day. It's weird that Lunatictac and Ploopy just disappeared and everybody is over it.

If they are going to do a Hope's Bedroom line, I would want to see Thomas return to design it.

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1 hour ago, RuntheTable said:

So, it looks like they have been chem testing Hope and Carter.  The thought of them as a couple doesn't make me mad; Hope with anyone other than Liam or Thomas is good with me. And as much as I wanted Steffy's world to crumble, is as much as I didn't want Hope walking down that path. Hope and Carter both have some baggage; when I think of them as a couple all I can hear is David Gilmour:

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fishbowl, year after year

Running over the same old ground, what have we found

The same old fears, wish you were here 

I think it might be interesting and fresh. 

Why did Taylor suddenly bolt down to the showroom? Was she going to spill the medical beans in order to put a stop to Brooke and Ridge's canoodling? Why are they turning Taylor into a stalker? 

The faint at the end was just plain old good soapiness with a whole lot of 

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Ok, the only thing I have to post is:  wow!  How’d you unearth this Tia Carrere commercial?  She looks soooo young. I guess she was supposed to make cheese sexy, by eating it in a sexy manner!  😆

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11 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

That song didn't go with the lingerie video at all

It made me low key depressed. Thankfully, Taylor put on that slapstick routine and cheered me right up.

39 minutes ago, SweePea59 said:

If they are going to do a Hope's Bedroom line, I would want to see Thomas return to design it.

 

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14 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

At this point, Carter is kind of a joke who comes across as just horny for everyone and anyone. Now he suddenly wants Hope? Was it just her turn in the rotation?  Her name came up in his day planner this morning?  He's an attractive man, and he had insane chemistry with Quinn, but now I just can't take him seriously. He seems super thirsty and like he's just trying to find someone, anyone, willing to sleep with him. We've had exactly zero buildup to him having a thing for Hope. If anything, he seemed like he maybe had a crush on Steffy. He never so much as sent a long glance Hope's way. 

Well, he was wearing his muscle shirt.  I guess it was to attract Hope?  😅

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I don’t want Hope and  Carter to become a thing for one reason: his kissing Steffy’s ass at her expense EVERY.SINGLE.TIME Steffy threatens to kill HFTF, and when Brooke relaunched her bedroom line, added to Steffy’s skepticism, but then changed faces to sing its praises at that party with Danny.

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So I got the impression Hope was getting another migraine after stuffy once again  threatened her at the music video.  What if...she's  not getting migraines but it's an inoperable brain tumor and she clings to life just long enough to be a perfect match to give her heart to Taylor?  Now THAT would make Steffys head explode.

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On 9/27/2024 at 11:32 AM, backhometome said:

Yes, at Carter/Hope. Whatever keeps her creepiness away from Finn. 

And Thomas and Liam too.

I don't expect it to be endgame because of this show's history of treating its characters of color and the fanbase 's reaction any time a Black character is paired with someone's white fave (hi, 1998 Y&R fandom!) but I've had enough of Hinn and if they aren't gonna cheat and crack Steffy's face, then let's move on.

4 hours ago, Blondie said:

So I got the impression Hope was getting another migraine after stuffy once again  threatened her at the music video.  What if...she's  not getting migraines but it's an inoperable brain tumor and she clings to life just long enough to be a perfect match to give her heart to Taylor?  Now THAT would make Steffys head explode.

I can't imagine them killing off one of Brooke's children at all and in principle I certainly wouldn't want Hope sacrificed for that shitgibbon. But if it sends Steffy to the nuthouse...? 🤔🤨

 

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Quick !! Roll Nu-NuTaylor up in her curtain/shroud and head for the nearest bridge !!🌉

We do NOT need Mother & Daughter dueling nightie shows for the holidays. Or for ANY days. 

Carter is the marryin' kind, but only as an officiant. He needs to get a dog. They are more faithful than the dozen women he has been paired with. 🐩

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14 hours ago, Blondie said:

So I got the impression Hope was getting another migraine after stuffy once again  threatened her at the music video.  What if...she's  not getting migraines but it's an inoperable brain tumor and she clings to life just long enough to be a perfect match to give her heart to Taylor?  Now THAT would make Steffys head explode.

If they kill off Hope to save Taylor, that would probably legitimately have me done with this show. Not in a "I only watch for this character" kind of way, because while she's my current favorite, she's not the only one I watch for. But, the indignity of Brooke losing her child at the altar of Saint Taylor, and Hope losing her life to prop up Steffy's shitty ass mother?  Hell no. 

I'm still pretty sure she's getting the pilot's heart, though. I know soaps can sometimes do completely pointless cameo appearances and all, but a guest star being in the hospital talking about his concerns over his heart health, only to be told how great all his tests came out, right as we're getting a story with a main character having a heart condition?  That screams "here's the heart donor" to me. 

The migraines seemed like they were some plotline to lead to Hope/Finn - he discovers her tumor or whatever is causing them, they bond, things happen, etc.  But I honestly have no idea where they're going with that. With Finn basically backing down from his anger and being all buddy-buddy with Hope again, I feel like they either trashed that story, or they're still intent on telling it, but had to detour for a while for Bitch in a Box and the aftermath (because Finn wouldn't leave or cheat on her right after his cousin locked her in a cage and tried to kill her). If they're backing off from Hinn, then whatever is causing the migraines is now going to be used as the explanation for "why is Hope acting like this?" And Carter landing someone only to find out that her flirting and sleeping with him was due to a tumor is pretty much exactly how this show rolls. 

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Teenage Will: “Mom, if you want to get back together with Dad, for yourself, then you should, but not because of me. He’s dicked you over for a decade+, & I want better for you, but if you can forgive & forget, I’ll get on board.” 
 

30-something, married mother, Steffy: “I know that Brooke’s bedroom line is going well, & Dad is really creatively inspired for the first time in a long time, & I think that’s because my Mommy is back in town. She’s the very bestest, & she really makes Dad happy. Brooke who?? Do you think they’ll get back together by Christmas??” 
 

I’ve been thinking about how everyone just expects Taylor to up-&-leave. When your heroine is known to leave & stay gone, of her own free will, not because she’s in the military, or in Doctors Without Borders, or anything else that makes sense, she’s really not that committed to “family”.

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30 minutes ago, nkotb said:

Teenage Will: “Mom, if you want to get back together with Dad, for yourself, then you should, but not because of me. He’s dicked you over for a decade+, & I want better for you, but if you can forgive & forget, I’ll get on board.” 
 

30-something, married mother, Steffy: “I know that Brooke’s bedroom line is going well, & Dad is really creatively inspired for the first time in a long time, & I think that’s because my Mommy is back in town. She’s the very bestest, & she really makes Dad happy. Brooke who?? Do you think they’ll get back together by Christmas??” 

Lord knows I'm not much here for Will's parent trapping either but it's at least in the realm of what a normal human being would say and unlike every other brat on this show, he has no illusions that Batie was some fairy tale torn asunder by Aunt Brooke. No doubt he'll have words for her in the future for the next Brill tease that is looming over the horizon when Ridge goes back to Taylor but for now, it's refreshingly sane and balanced.

That said, this meme will remain evergreen for as long as Taylor & Ridge draw breath:

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God bless them for letting us see Taylor's hilarious collapse again at the start of this episode. It was just as funny this time. 

Poor spineless Finn. Now that his MIL is back in town, he's got to do double duty praising her and his wife at every turn. 

Hmm... I wonder what's "inspiring" Ridge more about working on the Brooke's Bedroom line. Is it his ex-wife lurking around in her collection of oversized 80's blazers in every shade of the brown rainbow?  Or, and hear me out, is it watching his ridiculously beautiful partner modeling sexy lingerie?  Steffy is way too obsessed with her parents' relationship. Even Will, who, so far seems to be a petulant asshole, displayed a healthier attitude towards his parents' relationship, and Steffy is a grown ass adult who was old enough to almost have an affair with his father before Will was even born. 

Again, I need Hope/Carter to have WAY more buildup than what we're getting. Carter has gone from happily playing Steffy's sidekick in her quest to fuck Hope over to "I've been thinking about you in lingerie" out of the blue to Hope? And this would be his, what, fifth interoffice romance?  By this point, Hope, and every other woman who works at FC, should see Carter as either desperately horny for any woman he can make eye contact with, or a major player who uses FC as his hunting ground for more women. And considering that Carter has seemed like he has a crush on Steffy for a while now, it might have made more story sense, even if the ultimate goal is Hope/Carter, to have Hope and Carter teaming up to try to break up the Sinn marriage. Although I will find it absolutely hilarious if Hope hooking up with Carter ends up being the sign that convinces everyone something is terribly wrong with her. Carter only getting laid because the woman has a brain tumor is so on brand for his romantic history. 

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Has Taylor forgotten she has another child? All this concern for poor wo begotten Steffy, but not one word about her mentally challenged son. Oh, right, I forgot, Thomas is all better now. 

Now Ridge will have to keep secrets too. I am sure Taylor will tell him not to tell Brooke either, that way Brooke will be hella confused when Ridge starts spending all his free hours with Taylor. Brooke will start questioning and Ridge will sidestep and look guilty as hell. Couldn't have worked out better for ole Tay Tay. 

I am trying to be on board for Hope/Carter, but that was all a bit twee for me. They are two single, consenting adults. Additionally, Hope has turned into a sexual vixen and will now have visions of studful Carter dancing in her head. Just fucking go for it girl. 

Stop it Will, you are pissing me off. When you were a kid, you were so far up your dad's ass. Always with the Mini Bill schtick; counting your dollars, managing the finances, and advising about money. Now, you could care less about any of that and want to work at FC's? You also don't think too much of your dad, when he used to be like a God to you. But none of that is what is pissing me off. What's pissing me off is how initially you looked like you were going to be our standard parent trapper. Honestly Will, you had me glaring at my tv and rolling my eyes so hard they nearly caused seismic activity. And look at you now, acting like a grown up, telling your mom not to do anything for your benefit. So, I may be forced to change my opinion of you. Let's see how things go once you start your new job.  

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3 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Again, I need Hope/Carter to have WAY more buildup than what we're getting. Carter has gone from happily playing Steffy's sidekick in her quest to fuck Hope over to "I've been thinking about you in lingerie" out of the blue to Hope?

what if Steffy has given Carter this side quest...to keep her eyeballs and lips off of HER HUZBIN. Its just the sort of icky stuff Carter is always getting involved in.

Taylor's dramatic heart grasping curtain pull collapse was hilarious and I giggle every time I rewind and watch it again.

 

I didnt know who the singer was (although of course I recognized the song once they started.  As ill fitting for a fashion photo shoot of any kind as it was) But he looked like he got caught in a SouthWest festival gift shop battle royale. Do they regularyly dress like that?

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