S01.E05: The Lion's Den

[MarkHB]

Noah and Quentin take on Renautas. Miko's plan to retrieve her sword may land her in trouble. Malina's journey bring her closer to the truth. Luke returns home to confront his past. The authorities close in on Tommy. Carlos may have found an unexpected ally and Erica solidifies her plans.

[bagert]

Hmm...not many replies so far.

So it looks like the Phoenix Force is going to do to Earth what she did with the planet with the asparagus people when she had the form of Jean Grey.  How did NBC get permission to use it? LOL

Is Carlos' nephew doing some sort of Billy Batson/Captain Marvel thing by masquerading as the wrestling superhero?

[bagert]

So Hiro was in Odessa last year at the time of the bombing?  I wonder if any of the other evos of Heroes 1.0 besides Claire and Hiro were there...might make a nice comic book story.

[ottoDbusdriver]

I thought this episode was kind of boring.

 

Luke being mopey in his house before setting fire to it was just dull.

 

You pretty much know that Tommy's destiny is to teleport the planet out of the way of the coronal mass ejection in a week's time (in showtime).

 

Renautus somehow has known that this CME has been coming -- do they have someone that can see the future somewhere in that basement ?  And it's going to take more than a seed bank to resurrect the human race after something that devastating occurs -- hope they packed some skids of MREs and plenty of toilet paper.  Everyone will have become Morlocks long before being able to return to the surface of the planet based on that simulation.

 

Boy those epic glasses are stupid looking.

[Tryangle]

Coin guy still seems the most intriguing of the new characters on this show.

 

That said, looking forward to Katana Girl teaming up with Bennett.

[Free]

I thought this episode was kind of boring.

 

It's because not much has really happened 5 episodes in of a self contained 13 episodes series and it doesn't help that it's being bogged down by all these subplots they're juggling around.

 

How did NBC get permission to use it? LOL

 

Probably the same way they were allowed to rip it off for the previous series.

Edited October 16, 2015 by Free

[Senna]

So we have three people (Tommy, blondie, HRG) who are supposed to save the world and don't have a clue.  I just about screamed when HRG interrupted Erica just as she was about to say something possibly important; it's not like she'd even trailed off.  Not mention Tommy teleporting himself away before anyone could explain anything to him (even though he complained about not being told anything).  All the obfustication is tiresome, and it makes it feel like there's no progress.  I'm trying to think of something good to say about this episode, but I got nothing.

[Free]

All the obfustication is tiresome, and it makes it feel like there's no progress.  I'm trying to think of something good to say about this episode, but I got nothing.

 

It feels like they've jam packed a full season's worth of material into a a limited number of episodes, that they also did with the original series season 2 onwards.  It would explain the pacing issues, the meandering pace, etc.

[futurechemist]

Well HRG may be tired of the amnesia game, but the writers clearly aren't.  And I found Luke's story boring too.  We didn't need an entire B plot's worth of him moping around.

 

Interesting that the blood types science I mentioned previously actually came back to be relevant.  I guess now my main science objection is to the whole magnetic pole reversal thing.  Earth's magnetic poles have swapped plenty of times before and the swaps don't seem to correlate with extinctions.  And the magnetic field doesn't have to disappear completely during a reversal.

 

Maybe I should start singing the Mystery Science Theater 3000 theme song...

[Free]

Well HRG may be tired of the amnesia game, but the writers clearly aren't.  And I found Luke's story boring too.  We didn't need an entire B plot's worth of him moping around.

 

It's their go to plot device, that still hasn't changed I guess.

 

As for Luke, yeah, it's a symptom of juggling too many subplot/characters and not knowing what to do with them.

[MarkHB]

I want that 9th Wonders comforter!

 

Also, of the 2 9th Wonders covers I was able to see, I only recognized one: Issue 10, featuring "Who Is St. Joan?" (Micah's cousin Monica from New Orleans), which might have been one of the last comic covers to relate to the storyline in the original series.  The other was Issue 13, which depicted someone, possibly Hiro, kneeling before some sort of monument; I don't remember that at all but it might be relevant.

[ottoDbusdriver]

I guess now my main science objection is to the whole magnetic pole reversal thing.  Earth's magnetic poles have swapped plenty of times before and the swaps don't seem to correlate with extinctions.  And the magnetic field doesn't have to disappear completely during a reversal.

 

The fact that the pole reversal occurs during a devastating coronal mass ejection -- is a little too plot convenient.

 

That list of EVOs most wanted that continued to scroll in the interrogation room while Tommy was finding out he was adopted contained the following:

• Mohinder Suresh
• Sue Granby
• Nathan Breldin
• Mary Habersohl
• Trent Guparti
• Perry Westmere
• Lindsay Haddith
• Foster Castwith
• Grant Forieth
• Alanza Vennuto
• Steve Haddith

 

Aside from Mohinder, I don't think any of these EVOs have been encountered yet.  And probably never will.  And I find it odd that the EVO division is part of the ATF -- WTF ?

 

That was some pretty sad wire work when Malina flung Harris and a redshirt with her powers.  Same goes from when Miko leapt over that wall inside Renautus, and since Ren doesn't have any powers how did he get over that same wall ?

 

What was with all the Smart cars with rainbow-tinted windows in the Renautus parking lot -- I counted at least 5.  Are those also part of the plan to save the world ?

 

Is Erica Cravid an evil buddhist ?  In her ridiculously decorated home (what's up with those aluminum chairs in the living room) with weird sculptures and odd rug patterns, there was a buddha statue in her kitchen ?

 

Apparently one of Miko's power is the ability to break through wafer thin plate glass windows.  The odd part was that when she broke through there were two Harris's looking right at her, but when they cut to the next camera angle the Harris's are now turning towards her.  

 

Here's an odd Harris question -- in the previouslies, they showed the three Harris clones get shot and killed by HRG and their bodies turned to dust including the guns.  How could the guns have been cloned ?

[AConspiracy]

Was that Austin Power's time machine making boxes disappear in the lab?

[benteen]

Yeah, it definitely feels like the storyline is dragging and that Kring isn't bringing anything new to the table.  HRG interrupting Erica was infuriating because as pointed out, she was freely offering up information.

 

I think everything was summed up best by Luke's scenes.  Literally all of Luke's scenes consisted of him sitting around his house crying to long periods of time.  What "exciting" television that was.  Then the selfish prat decides to burn down his house which we see is literally squeezed between two other houses.  Not exactly a sympathetic character, no matter how many episodes they dedicate to him crying.

 

I got excited when Katana Girl broke into Erica's house and into Noah's story but then the show reminded us that it's Heroes and they were immediately completely seperated from one another.

 

On a shallow note, Erica has GREAT legs.

Edited October 16, 2015 by benteen

[coppersin]

So blah. Nothing over-the-top bad, but most of this show is just... beige. Tommy and Penny Guy keep my focus (which was unexpected - usually I abhor teenage drama), and Phoebe definitely has potential but will probably disappoint. Otherwise, I'm not invested in what's going on and would've bailed if this weren't a limited run. At this point I'm most eager for cameos of the alums, more of whom we've seen in the trailer than the actual series, and it's been five episodes already! If I'm gonna slog through this, I wanna do it staring at Mohinder's pretty pretty face, and no, a wanted poster does not count. It has been nice to see HRG each week at least.

 

It's because not much has really happened 5 episodes in of a self contained 13 episodes series and it doesn't help that it's being bogged down by all these subplots they're juggling around.

The Dark Matters prequel on NBC's site is the equivalent of one episode time-wise, and I honestly feel that we got more plot and character development than most of the storylines on Reborn have gotten so far. AND we got an original recipe hero! Some stuff is happening on the show, but none of it feels like actual progress.

 

Then the selfish prat decides to burn down his house which we see is literally squeezed between two other houses.  Not exactly a sympathetic character, no matter how many episodes they dedicate to him crying.

I noticed that too - I'm pretty sure my reaction to him walking away from his home with his son's toy tucked beneath his arm and a grim look of determination on his face was NOT supposed to be inappropriate giggles, but really:

   Luke: I'm atoning.

   Literally ten minutes later....

   Neighbor: Honey? Do you smell smoke?

[Free]

The Dark Matters prequel on NBC's site is the equivalent of one episode time-wise, and I honestly feel that we got more plot and character development than most of the storylines on Reborn have gotten so far. AND we got an original recipe hero! Some stuff is happening on the show, but none of it feels like actual progress.

 

Exactly, the Dark Matters was a lot better, it was way more focused instead of having to spread itself thin and jumping around from subplot to subplot.  We got more of the evo discrimination than this fractured mess.

 

So blah. Nothing over-the-top bad, but most of this show is just... beige.

 

It's an accurate description for the series so far.

 

I think everything was summed up best by Luke's scenes.  Literally all of Luke's scenes consisted of him sitting around his house crying to long periods of time.  What "exciting" television that was.  Then the selfish prat decides to burn down his house which we see is literally squeezed between two other houses.  Not exactly a sympathetic character, no matter how many episodes they dedicate to him crying.

 

I really don't see much of a point of this character if he was supposed to be a villain character or whatever because they already have evil Renatus company.

Edited October 16, 2015 by Free

[bagert]

I have finally realized who it is that Tommy reminded me of.  He is Simon Petrelli, Nathan's son and the nephew of Peter (who is the one that Tommy looks kinda like) from the original series.  The age is about right, and we know now that Tommy is adopted.  This will allow them to bring Angela (his grandmother) in, and Peter too if they get another miniseries (which unfortunately seems kinda doubtful right now, I think) and Milo changes his mind and comes back.

 

This wouldn't be the first time Nathan has fathered a child who was given up for adoption - remember that Claire was also his adopted child, making her Tommy's half-sister.

 

You ask, why doesn't Tommy remember his real family?  Answer: The Haitian.  This was all part of the plan :)

Edited October 16, 2015 by bagert

[Jenniferbug]

Bagert, I had a similar thought. When Tommy said something like "is my name even Nathan?" or whatever, I immediately though "fuck, he's a Petrelli." Don't get me wrong, I kinda loved the Petrellis in the beginning but they made Peter too powerful (then realized it and neutered him which was just as bad) and with Nathen being evil/dying/maybe not dying every single season...I'm fine with that all staying in the past. At least for this series. If they get another series and we get kickass Peter back, I may change my mind. Also (mild spoiler from previews)

Angela is back for this series, according to previews so it's not too far off that Tommy could be a Petrelli. Unless she's only present in a flackback episode. But I know we've seen her in a helicopter greeting Mohinder.

 

 

Seriously, what do I have to do to see Mohinder or Hiro already?? At this point, I'd even be excited to see Matt because at least I'd feel like we're getting somewhere! Did Erica say Hiro supposedly died in Odessa too? I highly doubt that. 

 

Notice that Harris never scanned Miko or Ren with the glasses. That has me wondering if perhaps Ren is an Evo but Miko is not. I think this show would do that, thinking it's a great plot twist. I hated Miko showing up to save them, and then disappearing again, off into her own useless plot. 

 

I had to look up what a coronal mass ejection is. So this is coming, quickly, to extinguish all life on earth. It seems that Malina has the ability to stop it, but Renautus wants her killed? Why do they think she is a baby? Was she rapidly aged? Where are her birth parents? 

I think I saw on IMDB that Casper is the name of Penny Guy, so I guess Farrah was talking to him on the phone. Interesting that he seems to be so involved with recruiting teenage heroes to save the world.

 

ETA: what is Phoebe's power again- I thought she could control shadows? She can now create/project shadow where there aren't any? And what were those shadow tentacles supposed to do if they had touched Farrah or Malina? 

 

So Luke was a dentist who is highly proficient at using handguns. Ok then. Why is their kid always dressed so wacky in pictures? They always show him wearing that hat and mittens, even in Odessa. 

 

I think this episode would have been a lot better if we would have gotten even ONE answer to any plotline- Malina opening the envelope, Tommy getting some more answers about who he is, Bennett getting more info on the Odessa situation- SOMETHING. 

Edited October 16, 2015 by Jenniferbug

[MarkHB]

Is Erica Cravid an evil buddhist ?  In her ridiculously decorated home (what's up with those aluminum chairs in the living room) with weird sculptures and odd rug patterns, there was a buddha statue in her kitchen ?

 

She also had a Helix-symbol painting.  And the thing that perhaps thrilled me the most: when I was much younger, I would imagine what I would want for a house if I had unlimited cash, and one of the things I always imagined was a flying staircase in the living room similar to the one she had.

 

I have finally realized who it is that Tommy reminded me of.  He is Simon Petrelli, Nathan's son and the nephew of Peter (who is the one that Tommy looks kinda like) from the original series.  The age is about right, and we know now that Tommy is adopted.  This will allow them to bring Angela (his grandmother) in, and Peter too if they get another miniseries (which unfortunately seems kinda doubtful right now, I think) and Milo changes his mind and comes back.

 

This wouldn't be the first time Nathan has fathered a child who was given up for adoption - remember that Claire was also his adopted child, making her Tommy's half-sister.

 

You ask, why doesn't Tommy remember his real family?  Answer: The Haitian.  This was all part of the plan :)

 

Damn good theory. And remember, it was Tommy who asked, "Did you ever think you were meant to do something... extraordinary?"

[Jenniferbug]

I'd prefer Tommy to be Monty Petrelli, because the name is goofier. 

[Wandering Snark]

Hmm... missed recording this one. Doesn't seem I missed much.

 

I was just staring at the confirmation screen to TiVo this weekly and I just couldn't do it... guess I'm out.

[Free]

This wouldn't be the first time Nathan has fathered a child who was given up for adoption - remember that Claire was also his adopted child, making her Tommy's half-sister.

 

Another recycled idea.

[Clanstarling]

I have finally realized who it is that Tommy reminded me of.  He is Simon Petrelli, Nathan's son and the nephew of Peter (who is the one that Tommy looks kinda like) from the original series.  The age is about right, and we know now that Tommy is adopted.  This will allow them to bring Angela (his grandmother) in, and Peter too if they get another miniseries (which unfortunately seems kinda doubtful right now, I think) and Milo changes his mind and comes back.

 

This wouldn't be the first time Nathan has fathered a child who was given up for adoption - remember that Claire was also his adopted child, making her Tommy's half-sister.

 

You ask, why doesn't Tommy remember his real family?  Answer: The Haitian.  This was all part of the plan :)

Tommy's "real" name seems to be Nathan, if you can believe his mother. I've lost track of how long it's been since the ending of the original series, Tommy's what, 15 or 16? My first take is that he's named after Nathan, and which took me to Claire - but I don't think the timing fits for him to be her son. I've completely blanked out what happened to Nathan, I remember hating what they were doing with him, but that's about it.

 

Eh, maybe he's the son of the jerk EVO cop. Despite it only being a few episodes in, I can't remember what his power was, not that the children inherit the same powers.

 

So, Penny guy Haitianed the ATF fellow - but doesn't Tommy still have that tracker in his arm? 

 

As for Luke, I agree that his scenes were boring and took too long. A shorter scene of him looking at the footage of his kid would have done the trick. I got a little confused about the dental practice partner. He seemed scared of Luke, but hesitant to buy out the partnership, and then weirdly assumed that Luke would come into the practice in the morning? I couldn't make heads or tails out of that scene. 

[Terrafamilia]

doesn't Tommy still have that tracker in his arm?

For now. If he were really good he would teleport the tracker right out of his arm but he'll probably not even think of trying.

[tomatoflyer]

This episode was too stupid to live.

When Malina's power was blocked in that warehouse, I literally laughed because the actress' portrayal looked so bad. Really show, I needed Luke moping around in all his scenes? Can katana girl go away and never come back?

I'm mad this show is so horrible. If it wasn't capped at 13, I would not watch the remaining episodes.

[Free]

When Malina's power was blocked in that warehouse, I literally laughed because the actress' portrayal looked so bad.

 

The whole scene was bad, the acting, the cg, etc.

 

Really show, I needed Luke moping around in all his scenes? Can katana girl go away and never come back?

 

These characters just feel out of place and it even seems like the writers don't know what to do with them half the time.

 

For now. If he were really good he would teleport the tracker right out of his arm but he'll probably not even think of trying.

 

Which he should've done since they could of still tracked him down instead of making it about his parental issues.

[jhlipton]

I thought this episode was kind of boring.

 

 

You're lucky. I thought it was a whole lot of boring.

 

So, Penny guy Haitianed the ATF fellow - but doesn't Tommy still have that tracker in his arm? 

 

I figured that he teleported it away first chance he got.  When he teleported into Not-His_girlfriend-Yet's (Emily's) bedroom, I wonder if some part of him (maybe not the best way to put that) was hoping she wasn't fully dressed...

 

Boo hoo some more for Luke.  Notice the photo he set on fire was the only one we saw of the kid with his mom.  That's his kid, dammit  She's just the baby factory and photographer.  No wonder she went nuts.

[thuganomics85]

Finally saw this episode, and yeah, I think it was the worst yet.  It just feels like the show is already spinning its wheels, and considering that it's a shorten season, it really shouldn't be having to, because I would think only twelve or so episodes would cut down on filler.  Instead we waste time on Luke moping around and then setting his house on fire (and his neighbor's house is probably close enough to catch on too, if the fire squad doesn't get there in time, so nice going there, asshole), Carlos going through the typical superhero motions, whatever the hell is going on up with boring Malina, and just a bunch of questions and no answers.  And, yes, that includes Noah, who idiotically interrupted Erica right when it looked like was actually going to say something.

 

I do think Tommy is totally going to be a Petrelli.  I'm sure the show needs to find some way to include them even if the original actors aren't coming back, and I think this is what they are planning.

 

I think the big problem with this show is that I still only really care about what really happened to Claire, Hiro's involvement, and even what is really going on with Mohinder.  So, despite adding this new cast, I'm really only invested in the originals, who either won't be showing up or have limited involvement.  I'm not sure why the new characters are such a bust, but the only one I kind of care about is Tommy and, again, that's mainly just because I like Robbie Kay.  I want to like Miko, but I still don't think they've gone anywhere with that character.  Here entire plot so far has been getting her sword back, and now we're back to where we were in the premiere.

 

Honestly, I also just thought the acting in general for this episode was kind off.  I felt like even Jack Coleman didn't quite bring it like he usually does.  Just not a good episode, in my opinion.

Edited October 20, 2015 by thuganomics85

[Lebanna]

Since boring Luke used to love illegal hunting (of people), figures he'd be a dentist. Especially considering the title of this episode.

Those optical illusion metal chairs in Erica's hall were nuts. Eventually someone would almost certainly sit on the wrong bit and fall off. Just further illustrates her evility.

I assumed that the rainbow Smart cars were self-driving. Otherwise, it didn't look like you could see out. The rainbow scheme is obviously to match the auroral theme, which probably is supposed to be clever.

The props in this show are more interesting than the story.

[Boundary]

Tim Kring probably had only 2 episodes' worth of story. Even with a shortened season, the thing is padded with filler episodes. Ugh.

[TVSpectator]

I missed the original TV airing, but I caught up with it on online, thinking that something important had to happen since this was episode 5 of 13,  but nothing did. Overall what really upset me was the fact that they still refused to answer some very basic questions and decided to ask more questions on top of it. Overall, the only positive thing is at least now we know what is "coming" for the world and It's a reverse poles. Which happens like all the time, btw.  Overall, I think it would've been better if there was a traveling black hole coming to Earth (and those things do exist in our world) and our Heroes have to save us from it and I think it would make much more sense too. 

Edited October 18, 2015 by TVSpectator

[Free]

Tim Kring probably had only 2 episodes' worth of story. Even with a shortened season, the thing is padded with filler episodes. Ugh.

 

Should've just been relegated to a tv movie instead if they were just going to waste so much time.

[PepperMonkey]

I'm trying to figure out who the infernal hell thought this "reboot" was a good idea?

 

I mean, I love HRG, but he's even totally ineffectual and wasted in this "limited series." I was hoping we WOULD see Hiro, Mohinder (even though I've always just loved to hate him), and Matt, but it's looking more like they'll show up for 5 minutes each sometime before this thing is over.

 

The story's nothing new and it's not even a compelling rehash. Bah.

Edited October 18, 2015 by PepperMonkey

[coppersin]

Overall, the only positive thing is at least now we know what is "coming" for the world and It's a reverse poles. Which happens like all the time, btw.  Overall, I think it would've been better if there was a traveling black hole coming to Earth (and those things do exist in our world) and our Heroes have to save us from it and I think it would make much more sense too.

"Sense"? "Science"? The showrunners don't have time for that kind of nonsense! They're too busy dragging along eight separate storylines that will clearly not come together until episode 10. In fact, even the scientists IN the show probably don't have time for science. They're too busy creating unnecessarily detailed yet factually limited movie-quality video of How We're All Screwed and using it to explain very basic info to the evil mastermind who presumably should know all of this already yet nods along like this info dump is absolutely need-to-know. 'Cause the world is ending. Like, in a few days the world is ending. And this is how they spend their time.

 

Tim Kring probably had only 2 episodes' worth of story. Even with a shortened season, the thing is padded with filler episodes. Ugh.

I'm expecting the last two episode to be when all the good stuff happens. The story will move at a quick pace, we'll care about the episode 12 cliffhanger even if we've already figured everything out, and probably the best cameos will happen then too. So the show will end and we'll be wondering why, if they're capable of it, we weren't getting this all along. And it will be just enough for me to sigh and say, "Dammit, I would watch a second miniseries."

 

Boo hoo some more for Luke.  Notice the photo he set on fire was the only one we saw of the kid with his mom.  That's his kid, dammit  She's just the baby factory and photographer.  No wonder she went nuts.

I agree that there's an imbalance, and since she seems a bit more nutso than him as a result of their son's death, maybe showing who she was pre-tragedy would help. But since Joanne's still off somewhere happily slaughtering people and using her son as an excuse, my sympathy is limited. Frankly, I'm more bugged by Luke burning ANY photo of his own son. His DEAD son. As in, mementos are permanently in short supply, so protect what you have, jerk, instead of staring at your family's faces while they turn to flame, then leave what is presumably most/all of your shared past in ashes.

(Sidenote: I actually like Zachary Levi and know he can act, so please have this new phase of Luke's life lead to more expression than grimaces and scrunched eyebrows.)

 

The props in this show are more interesting than the story.

Which is a sad state of affairs because I realized today what else is bugging me about this show: the visuals are (for me) mostly low quality and uninspiring. For a comics-inspired series, looks matter! I realize that a limited run won't have the same time or money invested as the original show, but nonetheless this is a continuation of Heroes and there were some awesome visuals in that show. Can you imagine them building anything like the explosion memorial or string theory room in Five Years Gone? Five episodes in, and no final scene has made an impression with me - certainly not like Sylar standing on a rooftop at night with light pulsing from his hands. Even Mohinder's crappy Manhattan apartment that no cabbie could possibly afford - they took their time designing those rooms, and it looked lived-in as a result. The Reborn folks just seem to move from location to location and set to set.

 

There have been a few cool moments on Reborn - the flower in the icecream was a quick gorgeous moment. The mass butterflies on the snow were pretty. Phoebe's power has a lot of potential for creepy and impressive, but it's too soon to tell.

 

I would say the biggest "fail" so far has actually been the image we've gotten from the beginning: Malina and solar flares, because what we were seeing was essentially aurora borealis, one of nature's most beautiful wonders, and all I thought was, "oh, not bad for cgi." A visual like that should add to the scene, not pull me out of it.

 

...All my whining and snark aside, though, this show must be doing something right, because I tend to be fickle yet I'm still here and know I will be for another eight episodes. Surely it can't all be nostalgia and residual good will from the awesome season 1 of Heroes.



Edited October 18, 2015 by coppersin

[jhlipton]

I agree that there's an imbalance, and since she seems a bit more nutso than him as a result of their son's death, maybe showing who she was pre-tragedy would help. But since Joanne's still off somewhere happily slaughtering people and using her son as an excuse, my sympathy is limited. Frankly, I'm more bugged by Luke burning ANY photo of his own son. His DEAD son. As in, mementos are permanently in short supply, so protect what you have, jerk, instead of staring at your family's faces while they turn to flame, then leave what is presumably most/all of your shared past in ashes.

 

She is just a prop for Luke's manpain.  From the photos, it doesn't even look like she was all that involved in her son's life.  Which makes me wonder what she was like before?  And the backstory and thoughts of a Psycho Killer can be interesting -- I'm sure you've heard of the Joker.. (I didn't think about before but both of the black characters are remorseless killers...)

 

I think the biggest problem is that we have no idea who these people are other than their main motive.  Miko especially might as well be a video game character for all the depth there is to her.  And she's spent 5 episodes in that ridiculous outfit -- we get that she's Kitana Girl -- what does she like to wear when she's not in Game Mode?

 

I'll still watch but even the Blandspot has preference over this

[Free]

I think the biggest problem is that we have no idea who these people are other than their main motive.  Miko especially might as well be a video game character for all the depth there is to her.  And she's spent 5 episodes in that ridiculous outfit -- we get that she's Kitana Girl -- what does she like to wear when she's not in Game Mode?

 

The Dark Matters digital shorts did a better job with the premise than this show meandering between 1 uneven subplot after another.

 

Surely it can't all be nostalgia and residual good will from the awesome season 1 of Heroes.

 

It's been that way since S2 of Heroes and I guess there are still people hoping for S1's quality when it's clearly long gone, the reboot only reinforced the flaws hat the writers still haven't learned from.

 

I'm trying to figure out who the infernal hell thought this "reboot" was a good idea?

 

Networks have been trying to reboot old series lately, but a 4 series flame out like this one shouldn't have been one of them.

[Jack Kerouac]

Who the heck created that simulation, LucasArts!? It was amazingly detailed and had an inappropriately long pause on the building falling to pieces after the flare. Was that the animator's apartment or something?

And I don't think a seed bank is going to be enough to recover from that!

Of course evil lady gets away. Never mind shooting her in the kneecaps so she can't run. Don't bother shooting her fingers off one by one until you get some info. HRG didn't have to do ANY of that - all he had to do was SHUT UP while she spilled the beans.

Edited October 20, 2015 by Jack Kerouac

[Meushell]

I think everything was summed up best by Luke's scenes. Literally all of Luke's scenes consisted of him sitting around his house crying to long periods of time. What "exciting" television that was. Then the selfish prat decides to burn down his house which we see is literally squeezed between two other houses. Not exactly a sympathetic character, no matter how many episodes they dedicate to him crying.

That's why I like his wife better. She's evil and needs to be stopped, but at least she's not "Wah Wah" about it, only to keep acting evil.

[Camera One]

Every subplot was basically, "Sorry, can't tell you that yet". 

 

Why the hell did that lady come back from the Arctic with that girl again?  Oh how convenient you had an envelope handy when you expired at exactly the same moment the entire audience predicted you would.  Yes, girl, you'll know exactly what to do when the time comes.  I'm marathoning this, but I have no idea what their names are, and I couldn't care less.

 

Seriously, everyone character is as dumb as a doorknob, even HRG.  Let's get the female CEO to talk.  I'm sure she'll have nooooooo backup.  

 

Katana Girl comes in, gets the sword, and then leaves.  Talk about single-minded.  And a super lucky break.  I'm surprised that Japanese boy didn't get killed somewhere along the line.

 

Meanwhile, man cries for an entire episode.  Now, we can forget he massacred a bunch of innocent people.

 

What else did I forget?  Oh yeah, Superhero and the Cop who's also a secret EVO. I couldn't even tell these two men apart if one wasn't wearing a superhero costume.

Edited December 5, 2015 by Camera One