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4 hours ago, Pingaponga said:

I am so happy to see Faison!  He's evil, and he's menacing, and he's dangerous.  He'd scare the living daylights out of me in real life.  Sonny?  Not so much. 

 

For once I'm glad they're shoehorning Sonny into a story, because there is no way Anders is going to act cowed by Sonny, no matter what his script gives him for his actual dialogue. 

1 hour ago, Winston Wolfe said:

ETA: I've gotten a kick out of Faison for nearly 40 years now, but AH looks to old to scare anybody.  And I say that as on old gray-hair myself, lol.

Really? I jumped at foot when he screamed at Liesl, and I'd already seen it in the previews. 

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Lulu, Girl Reporter, has got oatmeal where her brains should be.  Not only does she think she's too good to actually pay her dues with local color pieces for the paper, but then she traipses off to Spoon Island thinking Faison is there and that he'll just let her put him under citizen's arrest while she asks him a for follow-up questions for her big expose.  

Also, daily STFU, Molly.  It's like Kristina sent her her smugness for Christmas and it's not only taken root, but grown exponentially.

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2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Lulu, Girl Reporter, has got oatmeal where her brains should be.  Not only does she think she's too good to actually pay her dues with local color pieces for the paper, but then she traipses off to Spoon Island thinking Faison is there and that he'll just let her put him under citizen's arrest while she asks him a for follow-up questions for her big expose.  

Ugh, it's galactically stupid for a show that has a lot of galactically stupid plots. I had to laugh that Lulu was talking about knowing lots of the secret passages and stuff at Windermere, and there's Obrecht, tied up in the stables.

How on earth is Ned the de facto mayor just because Laura dropped out? He wasn't elected or appointed. He's a candidate, that's all.

2 hours ago, LillyB said:

It looks like Lulu is getting what she deserves for being so stupid

Here's hoping. I hope Faison throws her in a pit and leaves her there for a while. Ugh. 

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Seriously: How did Julian turn up running a damn Brooklyn hipster pub?? "Charlie's"? Who is Charlie??? Corinthos Coffee??? Sonny allowed that?

This mayor story is not a bad idea and nor is the T.J./Molly angle (even though T.J. should be an actual contract player for it to matter) but I can't get behind any of it without Laura.

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6 minutes ago, jsbt said:

Seriously: How did Julian turn up running a damn Brooklyn hipster pub?? "Charlie's"? Who is Charlie??? Corinthos Coffee??? Sonny allowed that?

Sonny demanded that! Seriously.

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What! How did Sonny not firebomb the place the instant Julian took possession?? 

Also: I googled "Faison" + "son" the other day and came up with some insane fucking results about some sort of script? A boy named Heinrich? And all sorts of other shit that seems needlessly complicated. Look, I don't mind byzantine gothic mysteries on soaps, I've enjoyed my fair share and the writer angle is not new to Faison what with P.K. Sinclair and all. But when half the players are lame (Nathan) or newbies (Wes Ramsey who I assume is Heinrich), or Obrecht or the Jasons, or Franco, the allure for these kind of super-complex stories is just not there. What is the deal with Franco and Greg Evigan?? Who is Greg Evigan even playing??

BTW: Why did Britt come back? Is she rotting in jail? And why the hell would Obrecht have hidden the boys when she worshipped the ground Faison walked on for years?

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13 hours ago, jsbt said:

What! How did Sonny not firebomb the place the instant Julian took possession?? 

Someone already threw a rock through a window, so I guess Sonny figured he didn't need to do anything more. (A developer wanted to buy the property and Julian said no. We don't know who threw the rock but it was probably him. Sonny took advantage and made Julian think he did it so he could get Julian to sell some coffee.) (Oh, oops, I think it was a brick. Whatever.)

Greg Evigan is playing the ev0l developer (he also wants to buy Franco's murder den art studio) who also used to date Franco's mom. He is 99% the person who pushed Drew down the stairs.

Yeah Peter is probably Faison's son and the speculation is either Anna or Alex is his mother. I've seen speculation too that he is Robert and Anna's son who Faison stole. I really hope not cause Laura Wright's boyfriend playing Robert and Anna's son would annoy me.

Britt came back because she was tired of being on the run. Yes she is in prison. They retconned it that Obrecht didn't want Faison to know about Nathan because she knew he would be a bad dad. Yep.

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5 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Someone already threw a rock through a window, so I guess Sonny figured he didn't need to do anything more.

Oh, problem solved! If Guza was around Sonny would've at least torched half the block and killed Julian and five recurring vets in the process, then two weeks later we'd find out Johnny was to blame!

Sonny took advantage and made Julian think he did it so he could get Julian to sell some coffee.

??????  Weak shit, Sonny! Why aren't Russians moving on Sonny's territory right now with this kind of muscle? Was Jason too busy re-activating his driver's license at the DMV?

Greg Evigan is playing ev0l developer (he also wants to buy Franco's

murder den art studio) who also used to date Franco's mom. He is 99% the person who pushed Drew down the stairs.

Why the hell would an adult push Drew down the stairs? See, now Franco is getting all the Johnny/Zacchara family/etc. excuses Sonny used to get. Next I suppose they'll claim Greg Evigan did all the serial killings.

Yeah Peter is probably Faison's son and the speculation is either Anna or Alex is his mother.

If they try to say Anna went to bed with Faison I may vomit. Alex I can buy, because Alex has an insane evil spy backstory c/o Jean Passanante herself on AMC. Either way he still doesn't need to be on the show.

Rot in prison, Britt! You can't see it but I'm doing a prayerhands emoji.

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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Ugh, it's galactically stupid for a show that has a lot of galactically stupid plots. I had to laugh that Lulu was talking about knowing lots of the secret passages and stuff at Windermere, and there's Obrecht, tied up in the stables.

How on earth is Ned the de facto mayor just because Laura dropped out? He wasn't elected or appointed. He's a candidate, that's all.

Here's hoping. I hope Faison throws her in a pit and leaves her there for a while. Ugh. 

Dilly Dilly !!!

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13 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:
14 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

ETA: I've gotten a kick out of Faison for nearly 40 years now, but AH looks to old to scare anybody.  And I say that as on old gray-hair myself, lol.

Really? I jumped at foot when he screamed at Liesl, and I'd already seen it in the previews. 

After Faison grabbed Lulu's phone and put it in his mouth, I blinked and looked away for a second, and it was gone, and I thought he ate it.

But my stomach is not looking to the inevitable - Sonny doing his usually blank stare and growling while perched on a crate in his showdown with Faison, as Faison cringes in fear.

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29 minutes ago, NutmegsDad said:

Sonny doing his usually blank stare and growling while perched on a crate in his showdown with Faison, as Faison cringes in fear.

 

That's where I'm out. No joke, if Faison cowers in fear of the gummy bear mobster, I'm done. I know he won't beat Sonny (because Sonny never loses) but I don't want him going down without a fight.

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I like how Dante and Jordan had pretty long reaction shots to Anna being shady, and then they quickly cut to Nathan's face for a second, as if to say, "oh, here's Nathan, he's having some sort of facial expression too."

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Really, what did that idiot Lulu think was going to happen if/when she tracked down Faison?

Lulu: "Oh, surely you wouldn't hurt Luke Spencer's daughter?" (flutters eyelashes until she sprains an eyelid). "Oh, you would? How about a compromise?" (flutters eyelashes, sprains other eyelid) "You could have your way with me, and maybe I'd have a BABY because of your super evil sperm, and then I could write a series of exclusives -- 'I Fucked Faison,' 'Having a Monster Baby,' 'Faison is My Kinder's Fazzer' -- and finally get that Pulitzer Prize!"

Faison (sighs, blows smoke in her face, pulls out gun, shoots her): "No."

#dieLuludie

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53 minutes ago, TheMediaHo said:

Really, what did that idiot Lulu think was going to happen if/when she tracked down Faison?

Lulu: "Oh, surely you wouldn't hurt Luke Spencer's daughter?" (flutters eyelashes until she sprains an eyelid). "Oh, you would? How about a compromise?" (flutters eyelashes, sprains other eyelid) "You could have your way with me, and maybe I'd have a BABY because of your super evil sperm, and then I could write a series of exclusives -- 'I Fucked Faison,' 'Having a Monster Baby,' 'Faison is My Kinder's Fazzer' -- and finally get that Pulitzer Prize!"

Faison (sighs, blows smoke in her face, pulls out gun, shoots her): "No."

#dieLuludie

Don't you just LOVE him??!   He was only on for about 5 seconds and already he has me reeled in.  What an superb actor he is.  His mocking of Leisl's whining was epic, then he started screaming at LuLu and waving his arms all around, almost hitting her.  She had to kind of duck out of the way, and then it looked like she was trying to smother a smile.  I am loving this so much.

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3 minutes ago, jsbt said:

I feel like Sonny thinks email is witchcraft.

I'm sure he thinks the Internet is a series of tubes. 

1 minute ago, Ladyrain said:

Sonny was man-'splaining to Anna

Why is Sonny even allowed to talk to Anna about Faison? GAH.

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"When you line up that shot, don't miss." These are the heroes of our show, y'all. The guy who uses his mom's abuse as a justification for his own violence (it's been a while since Sonny dipped into that well and I haven't missed it at all) and the obedient muscle who blindly follows his superior's orders even if it means blatantly working against law enforcement. Anna shouldn't have wasted her breath trying to cooperate with these thugs, they're clearly going to do what they want how they want. I hate so much that Anna isn't going to be allowed to kick ass and take names on her own because you just KNOW that Jason and Sonny are going to be instrumental in the final showdown, there is no other way on GH.

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Sonny has to be inserted into everything or MB might have a tantrum.

Grown man Michael dealing with his crazy girlfriend: Sonny has to be there while Carly shines a flashlight up Nelle's vagina.

Faison in town: Sonny has to be involved even though he knows nothing about Faison except that he shot his boyfriend.

Joss has a problem: Uncle Sonny lurking in a corner, even though Sonny wouldn't give two shits about Jax's daughter.

7 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

When Sonny was man-'splaining to Anna that "The easiest way to get rid of me is to get rid of Jason", I'm screaming at the TV, "NO, the easiest way to get rid of you is to get rid of YOU!"

What's he talking about? Jason wasn't around and Sonny was still in town. He's so modest, selling himself short like that. No pun intended.

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9 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Why is Sonny even allowed to talk to Anna about Faison? GAH.

It's really infuriating, it reminds of that time on OLTL when Ford was lecturing Viki about D.I.D., a condition Viki herself had.  GRRR!

That we're to believe Faison gives a shit about Sonny and/or Jason is just...

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Someone explain to me like I'm Sonny why Anna didn't immediately shoot Faison in the head when she walked into the house.  Yes, he was holding a gun on Finn, but she had the advantage of surprise on her side.  Oh wait, it's because Sonny has to be the one to kill Faison, three weeks from now.  

25 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Sonny—the man who can't figure out how to dial 911 in a timely fashion—suspected those e-mails were being intercepted?

No, Jason said Spinelli had figured out that someone was intercepting the emails.  Because Spin has such hacking talents that he can figure that out.  

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It was WTF, for sure, but I liked Felicia giving Finn the business about Anna. Felicia hasn't been that animated for ages.

8 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

"The easiest way to get rid of me is to get rid of Jason"

I had to laugh at that. Of course Sonny thinks it's all about him, and it also points up how useless Sonny is without Jason. Sonny admits it!

What do you think lethal gas is for, Lulu? It's so depressing that Lulu is being written as such a ding-dong. This goes way beyond headstrong and/or impulsive.

1 minute ago, Perkie said:

No, Jason said Spinelli had figured out that someone was intercepting the emails.  Because Spin has such hacking talents that he can figure that out.  

Jason confirmed that Spinelli figured it out after Sonny mentioned it.

I had to laugh at Finn's expression when Faison pulled the gun on him. ME's characters have had their share of crazy costars. If there were a Mitch Lawrence/Faison face-off, I'm not sure who I'd put money on to win.

Nice shade that we saw GF's Nutrisystem ad during the show! (Though I'm sorry she's pushing that crap.)

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9 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Jason confirmed that Spinelli figured it out after Sonny mentioned it.

Ok, maybe I missed that.  The show started with Jason walking into the office and saying Spin had told him the email was being intercepted.  I thought it originated from Spin.  

 

10 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I had to laugh at Finn's expression when Faison pulled the gun on him.

Kudos to ME because when Finn first turns around and sees psycho Faison with the wacky hair standing behind him, he looked like peed his pants a little, which is totally the appropriate reaction in that moment!

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Sonny's exasperated "Women!" sigh was really uncalled for, especially considering she's the one who knows about Faison. I know we can never see Sonny as not totally in control, but this is ridiculous.

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8 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

If there were a Mitch Lawrence/Faison face-off, I'm not sure who I'd put money on to win.

Crucial question - has Faison ever jumped out of a coffin before?

No, so I guess Mitch wins! (That's still one of my favorite moments of OLTL. So campy, and everyone played it perfectly.)

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25 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Sonny has to be inserted into everything or MB might have a tantrum.

Grown man Michael dealing with his crazy girlfriend: Sonny has to be there while Carly shines a flashlight up Nelle's vagina.

Faison in town: Sonny has to be involved even though he knows nothing about Faison except that he shot his boyfriend.

Joss has a problem: Uncle Sonny lurking in a corner, even though Sonny wouldn't give two shits about Jax's daughter.

What's he talking about? Jason wasn't around and Sonny was still in town. He's so modest, selling himself short like that. No pun intended.

I'm four-letter-word pissed at the way that annoying, preening little man has to be inserted  in every d*mn story.  Make him go away!!!  Far, far, away.  

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14 hours ago, ulkis said:

Yeah Peter is probably Faison's son and the speculation is either Anna or Alex is his mother.

I've been certain of Peter being Faison's son ever since he seemed too insistent on Lulu running the story about Faison.  He's gotta be his son.

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Something on Twitter reminded me - I had forgotten about the bad blood between Drs. O and Michael Easton so her throwing him into Faison's path was a pretty good piece of villainy.

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Maxie on hearing yet another woman bore Faison's son:  "Who are these women who want to sleep with Faison?  (When KS is given the chance to do comedy instead of flake, she's pretty good at it.)

I think Finn with Faison is the best I've ever seen ME on this show

The shade Faison and Liesl were throwing Lulu was hysterical.  'What does that canister do?"  "I wanted to put a dangerous man behind bars/"  Then join the police force, Lulu. Or the WSB. You know, someone who knows what they're doing and has authority.

Although I couldn't figure out why Liesl didn't throw her coat over the canister to slow down the spread of the gas.

37 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

When Sonny was man-'splaining to Anna that "The easiest way to get rid of me is to get rid of Jason", I'm screaming at the TV, "NO, the easiest way to get rid of you is to get rid of YOU!"

Could he be any more narcissistic????  Faison has pursued Anna for decades but it's really all about Sonny.  I bet the real reason Faison kidnapped Robin to make Sonny feel bad.

27 minutes ago, Linny said:

"When you line up that shot, don't miss."

Isn't it wonderful how Sonny just knows what Anna is going to say, in spite of the fact that she just spent half an hour telling him to stay away

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Why is there a can of lethal gas in the barn anyway? Is Valentin putting down his horses himself or something? "Oh no, Fluffy broke his leg. Charlotte, ma petite, can you run and get papa's magic potion can?"

Now I'm curious about who would win in a Anders Hove/Michael Easton fight.

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Dear Mr. Faison, Sir,

 

We are sorry that your plan to get rid of Sonny by first getting rid of Jason didn't work. It didn't work for us, either, and we tried it for years. We encourage you to try another approach and look forward to your success in this area. Please just stay away from Anna, and from Maxie and the baby. 

 

Yours,

Us

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Faison brought the canister with him.  Liesl explained that it had been created years ago by a cartel that Faison was a part of for nefarious purposes.  I guess Faison kept it around for future use.  There was a question whether it was still functioning but the hissing answered that.

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8 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Faison brought the canister with him.  Liesl explained that it had been created years ago by a cartel that Faison was a part of for nefarious purposes.  I guess Faison kept it around for future use.  There was a question whether it was still functioning but the hissing answered that.

So hanging on to deadly chemical weapons for years on end is apparently something Faison and Helena have in common.

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Wasn't there a good opportunity, when Faison was talking to Liesl and he had his back to Lulu, when Lulu could have just run away, since she was standing by the door ? Or she could have found something and whacked him over the head from behind ?

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1 hour ago, ulkis said:

Did Anna lie and say Finn's text was from other son? If so, why?

No. Anna got the text from Finn and told the guys it wasn't the email from Heinrich then seconds later her phone pinged again and this time she said it was the email to meet Heinrich.  It was two seperate messages.   

48 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

So hanging on to deadly chemical weapons for years on end is apparently something Faison and Helena have in common.

And apparently travel to other countries with it, just in case.  

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44 minutes ago, Benji said:

Wasn't there a good opportunity, when Faison was talking to Liesl and he had his back to Lulu, when Lulu could have just run away, since she was standing by the door

Faison is crazy but he's also 110 years old (no offence Anders!!).  All she needed to do was give him a good shove when he wasn't facing her.  But then again, ER/Lulu is a wisp of a thing so she might not have been able to put much strength in it.  

I will give credit to Lulu for actually using her head and looking for the exit/entrance to the tunnels rather than sit there and wring her hands.  Though I don't know why neither of them grabbed the cannister and tried to dispose of it somehow before it started to hiss out at them.  

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6 hours ago, NutmegsDad said:

After Faison grabbed Lulu's phone and put it in his mouth, I blinked and looked away for a second, and it was gone, and I thought he ate it.

Right! I watched that little bit so many times. It was fascinating!

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

Now I'm curious about who would win in a Anders Hove/Michael Easton fight.

I mean.

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5 hours ago, ciarra said:

I had no idea people were calling Drew/Sam "DreAm".  I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

Speak not the name! At least not here.

I have some alternate suggestions:

dram

sew

 . . . and those are all my suggestions.

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