Episode Discussion: TFGH

[ulkis]

7 hours ago, jsbt said:

Why the hell does lame-ass Valentin (it is beyond me that he is still a major lead) care about the Jeromes

Cause he paid for Olivia's defense before, for some reason. I think they wanted to have him in yet another scheme but since then changed their minds. I actually like JPS but I don't get why FV likes him so much he is willing to risk being completely screwed by letting him work without a contract.

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What the hell is the plotline with Jessica Tuck?

She's selling drugs and Anna has blackmailed Valentin and Michael Easton into catching her (Michael Easton is involved because Jessica Tuck is a hypochondriac.)

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Or the little boy and Joss and Tamara Braun?

Joss and Oscar are dating and Oscar doesn't know who his dad is so Joss decided to search for Oscar's dad and presumably it is one of the Jasons. (Also they dressed up as Jon Snow and Daenerys for Halloween, which, kind of weird considering the storyline.)

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Why is any of that happening?

I guess to introduce TB to either Sonny or Burton and to pair her with one of them.

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Who cares?

Someone or other.

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Is Maxie seriously still with Nathan?

Yes. I think they are setting something up with Nurse Amy though.

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Why is Priestdoc still on the show?

Ava needs an escort.

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Who have they foisted Nina off on lately?

Still with Valentin, but now she works for Sam and Jason Miller.

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Is Nelle evil yet?

Yes.

Their insisting on calling Olivia J. "Liv Jerome" because of Olivia Q. is ridiculous, the viewers are not total invalids

Lies!

 

9 minutes ago, fishcakes said:

It was Sam after her baby with Sonny died because Alexis begged her to induce early labor so they could test the baby to see if she could donate bone marrow to Kristina. And then her brother Danny died because there was only one dose of the monkey virus cure and Alexis got it instead of him. So for months, every time Sam spotted Alexis, she would go into a trance and intone, "you killed my baby. You killed my brother." It was really boring.

Oh, I think that was all overshadowed for me about her ranting that Alexis made Jason dump her. 

Edited November 22, 2017 by ulkis

[dubbel zout]

11 minutes ago, ulkis said:

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Is Nelle evil yet?

Yes.

Well, that depends on your definition of "evil." She's back to being mildly scheming, IMO. She outed Amy 2.0 as the real Ask Man Landers. The publisher (poor Jennifer Bassey) huffed in demanding a Facebook Live apology, in which Chet swooped in and told his sad-vet story. That turned the tide on the Outrage! (not) the interwebs were having. Nelle got her exposé money, so I guess it was a success on that front.

[ulkis]

7 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

She outed Amy 2.0 as the real Ask Man Landers. 

If you don't consider that evil, you must be evil yourself dubbel zout! :Jason (1.0) headshake of judgement:

[TeeVee329]

Monica is one of the few characters on this show whose happiness I give a fig about so everyone coming in with the pizzas made me happy.  Her talk with Drew was also sweet, although it feels a little like Drew gets "the crumbs" that is being close to Monica because the real Jason gets Sonny and Carly, barf.

Hey there Tamara Braun!  I'm glad Kim was all, "Duh you're a mobster, I live in this town and have eyes and ears" to Sonny.  She also has no interest in Oscar and Joss as a couple.  So I'm officially on-side.  But ugh, as we all knew she would, she recognized Steve Burton's face as Drew and thus Drew is probably Oscar's dad.  So incestuous!

My complaints from yesterday's preview still stand - it's ridiculous that Maxie (and Nathan) are not with Felicia/Mac/Anna/Robin and there has not been nearly enough setup for Dr. Bensch's presence at Alexis' to make sense.

[LexieLily]

So much for that shared custody that Valentin touted. Lulu doesn't even get Thanksgiving with Charlotte?

[statsgirl]

Who didn't see the Drew reveal coming?  I was just surprised they did it so soon.

No wonder Oscar's mother likes Joss -- they both belong to the Ugly Dress Club.  And yay for her calling Sonny and Carly on their "we're so great, just coffee importers" b.s.  I like TB so much better in this role than as Carly.

I'm not impressed that all the dinners were destroyed except for Sonny's.  And could Bensch be any more perfect?

Good for Sam. And also for KM finally bringing some energy to her scenes.

Monica/BMJason scene brought tears to my eyes; a first for GH.  I also really liked Ned and everyone else showing up at Monica's.

3 hours ago, NutmegsDad said:

So, in order to put Juliexis back together, Nora was persuaded by Valentin to persuade OLiv-iato say she was now sane and remorseful and Julian was not a willing participant. Considering that OLiv-ia's legal strategy was to claim insanity to avoid her crimes, why would, because a PD wouldn't have the skills to keep her in Darkham, she open herself to jail time in Pentonville?

No.  If she was found not liable because of insanity at the time she committed the crimes, it would still apply now.  If she went straight to the hospital because she wasn't fit to stand trial, then they would have a trial for her now.

 

3 hours ago, fishcakes said:

When SBJason was telling Robin that Faison shot him and kicked him into the harbor, it occurred to me that they could just check to see which Jason has a scar on his back from the bullet wound, although then this story would be over. Speaking of which, I know both of their brains have been mixmastered into scar tissue, but wouldn't real Jason have more scars on his body in general? He's been shot, like, 30 times.

It depends what Drew was doing before he ended up in Helen's clutches.  Oscar said his father was in a war so maybe he got hurt there.  But yeah, logically they should be able to match up scars on the bodies.  Sam especially should, she's seen both of them naked.

[dubbel zout]

The music they played with Jason Burton and Sam was awful.

I hated Olivia's snide comment that someone needed to warn the pizza place Monica wouldn't be calling. Get your own house if you're so unhappy at the Q mansion, you ingrate.

[rur]

Well played, GH, well played. I spent the first 30 minutes of the show being upset that the Q pizza tradition was not going to continue. And, even though the hand got tipped toward the end, I was happy that the final scene did occur at the Q mansion, complete with singing. 

On the more noxious front, how come Sonny and Carly were immediately offended that Oscar's mother wasn't on the Joss And Oscar FOREVAH bandwagon? I guess they're just not used to someone speaking common sense around them. I'll be interested to see how they treat BMJason this week.

Edited November 22, 2017 by rur

[TeeVee329]

In case you were curious, Scotty, Serena and Lucy all went to Florida to keep Gail company for her first Thanksgiving without Lee.

And Lucas and Brad were invited to dine with Lucas' doctor friend and his cop husband at their home in Pennsylvania.  Lucas was again weirded out by how much their friend looks like his aunt Ava's mom.  And things were awkward when Lucas and Brad broached the subject of adoption with their hosts and they had to admit that their daughter was the result of a drunken ONS with a scheming stripper.

#showinymyhead

Edited November 22, 2017 by TeeVee329

[teenj12]

I thought it was sweet that Ned rounded up all the families to come spend Thanksgiving with Monica. I almost thought they wouldn't do the Quartermaine pizza tradition this year. 

About the end reveal..  I guess this means Drew is Oscar's father?  Whatever, more Q-descendents for Thanksgiving next year.

Edited November 22, 2017 by teenj12

[HeatLifer]

2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

The music they played with Jason Burton and Sam was awful.

I was just happy Sam was finally in a heated conversation with someone named Jason. BMJason and Sam got boring af quickly, unfortunately. 

Shouldn't BMJason be more, you know, concerned about Sam not believing he's Jason? Why is Sam keeping this from him if their ~love~ is greater than an identity?

Speaking of, it's pretty stupid and callous that Sam cares more about someone who was presumably implanted with Jason's memories. Like, who cares if he remembers falling in love with you? Should you feel bad for him? Yes. It was out of his control. It's not real, though. The man who ACTUALLY has those memories was tortured for five years. Um.

[Linny]

Okay, so: the old Carly had a relationship (and presumably a kid) with Jason's twin, and that kid is now dating Carly's daughter. Drew believes he is Jason and now Jason is being mistaken for Drew. Also, Drew is married to Jason's former wife, and Scout and Danny are both siblings and cousins. Fuck, I'm going to need a flow chart to keep track of all these relationships.

Thank you, show, for allowing Monica some joy as everyone surrounded her for Thanksgiving pizza. I was so afraid we weren't going to get our Quartermaine singing, so I'm glad the show pulled through. It's a special moment every year, and it demonstrates that though Sonny/Carly/the mob may be the center of the show, it's the Quartermaine family that is the show's heart.

[statsgirl]

We don't know that JaSix was tortured for five years.  He likely was in some sort of drugged state because he was surprised that it was 2017 now.  BMJason was also a prisoner for years.

16 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

I can't believe I have to defend Carly but here I am. Carly has been blaming herself this entire time. She feels bad for pushing all this on BMJason. She has taken responsibility.

Carly feels bad because she put BMJason in the place of her beloved Real Jason.  She gives zero effs for how BMJason feels or what he might stand to lose with her pushing Sam away. He told Monica today  how much it was hurting him that he lost Sonny, Carly and Robin and how afraid he is that he'll lose Sam too.

16 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

Speaking of, it's pretty stupid and callous that Sam cares more about someone who was presumably implanted with Jason's memories. Like, who cares if he remembers falling in love with you? Should you feel bad for him? Yes. It was out of his control. It's not real, though. The man who ACTUALLY has those memories was tortured for five years. Um.

15 hours ago, ulkis said:

I think BM being Drew makes Sam look a lot savvier.

Falling in love with the new guy who put her first, even if she did think he was, but then picking him after all, makes her look like she's wised up. If BM turns out to be Jason, yeah he chose her . . . it only took a decade of putting his business before her, a death threat, and being in a coma for years before he needed yet another brain surgery, for him to be finally decide he didn't want to be in the mob anymore.

Yeah sure BM has those memories too but still his personality has shown that he's not like that.

As Oscar's mom wisely said today, the person you fall in love with when  you're young is not necessarily the right person for you when you're grown up.  Would I still pick the same kind of guy I married when I was 25?  Absolutely not.

Sam's older now, she's got two kids and it's her responsibility to put those kids first.  BMJason loves her and loves the kids and he's hands down the better longterm father.  She needs to work out what she feels for each of the guys.

It was wrong of SBJason to go to her to make the decision. 

[HeatLifer]

1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

He told Monica today  how much it was hurting him that he lost Sonny, Carly and Robin and how afraid he is that he'll lose Sam too

He should probs focus more on Sam who is lying to him, something the others are not doing.

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Sam's older now, she's got two kids and it's her responsibility to put those kids first.

You mean like Liz when Sam trashed her for not ~understanding Jason like she does~?

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

As Oscar's mom wisely said today, the person you fall in love with when  you're young is not necessarily the right person for you when you're grown up

This does not apply to JaSam, IMO. 

[Thinbalina]

I don't think Sam is lying to him. Has she avoided the question? Yes! She has been adamant to everyone Huglife is the man she loves and doesn't want to break up her family over it but I think she wants to know the truth as well.

[HeatLifer]

Just now, Thinbalina said:

I don't think Sam is lying to him. Has she avoided the question? Yes! She has been adamant to everyone Huglife is the man she loves and doesn't want to break up her family over it but I think she wants to know the truth as well.

She knows the truth. She knows who Jason Morgan is, lol. It ain't Huglife. She is lying, in my eyes. Straight up.

[Hater]

I think she's lying to him as well.  She's not forthcoming at all and keeps claiming she "loves" him but that wears thin after awhile.  She is only going to keep adding to his insecurity with how trusting she is of Jason and basically letting him into their home whenever.  She's acting like Burton did with Liz all those years.

I do love that I'm suppose to realistically assume a woman who is not blind, deaf, and dumb would choose Burton over Miller, but hey different strokes for different folks.  Visually this triangle just doesn't work for me. 

Edited November 22, 2017 by Hater

[jsbt]

She's lying to herself. I can't blame her. The realization would be a nightmare.

[movingtargetgal]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

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Is Nelle evil yet?

Yes.

Well, that depends on your definition of "evil." She's back to being mildly scheming, IMO. She outed Amy 2.0 as the real Ask Man Landers. The publisher (poor Jennifer Bassey) huffed in demanding a Facebook Live apology, in which Chet swooped in and told his sad-vet story. That turned the tide on the Outrage! (not) the interwebs were having. Nelle got her exposé money, so I guess it was a success on that front.

I don't think Nelle is evil.  She was doing us viewers a big old favor by ending this ManLanders secret.  Really it was an act of mercy. :)

[statsgirl]

I guess we're supposed to think that Nelle is a villain but really she's the lamest, most incompetent con woman ever.  OriginalCarly would be laughing herself into fits.

I wanted to say that when Chet was working out at the gym, shirtless, I thought 'Oh now I remember what a real man looks like.'  All these super pumped-up six pack studly men on TV are really unrealistic.  Who has time to work out two hours a day?

33 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

You mean like Liz when Sam trashed her for not ~understanding Jason like she does~?

Everyone should have the change to grow up and mature.  Even Sonny and Carly, although they never will.

[HeatLifer]

20 minutes ago, jsbt said:

She's lying to herself. I can't blame her. The realization would be a nightmare.

She's not lying to herself, lol. She knows. She's lying to BMJason.

 

7 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Everyone should have the change to grow up and mature.

And they can. But then the next step would be to admit how wrong you were. Apologize to people you shit on in the past. Own up. Sam has never done that. She changes as the plot changes.

[Perkie]

29 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

She knows the truth. She knows who Jason Morgan is, lol. It ain't Huglife. She is lying, in my eyes. Straight up.

She told Alexis yesterday that she doesn't know what she's supposed to do if it turns out that SJason is the real one.  What would you want her to do exactly?  Dump BJason.  Tell Danny that his father isn't his father but his uncle.  Kick BJason out of the penthouse and move SJason back in with Danny and Scout?  That's assuming she still has the same feelings for SJason that she did 5 years ago.  Presumably she's changed.  She's had other (many, many!!) relationships since then.  She had to deal with a husband's death, her son having a deadly disease, her daughter being born through her pants.  That all changes a person.  Maybe she doesn't love CarSon's ass boil the way she did before he was shot.  Maybe she loves this new man, because he isn't CarSon's ass boil, because he chooses her and her children, because he wants to build a life with her and not be CarSon's ass boil anymore.  Then what?

Regarding the scars:  it doesn't matter how many scars SJason has on his body.  BJason was in a car accident and presumably has a boat load of scars all over his body (to go along with the damaged face that needed to be redone).  So even if they said, take off your shirt so we can play match the scars, they wouldn't be able to.  

[HeatLifer]

1 minute ago, Perkie said:

Then what?

 

2 minutes ago, Perkie said:

What would you want her to do exactly? 

What does Sam's choice have to do with BMJason crying around town about Sonny/Carly/Robin? My point is that Sam HERSELF doesn't believe he's Jason. Why isn't he having conversations with her? Why isn't SHE reassuring him that it doesn't matter, their love was real? She is hiding from him that she doesn't believe he's Jason. He should know that. That's about it. What Sam does afterwards is irrelevant to me, TBH. 

[Perkie]

3 hours ago, ulkis said:

Why is Priestdoc still on the show?

Because, danmit, if I have to suffer Sonny, Jason and Franco on a daily basis, I should be allowed me some nice eye candy, who's also a non murdery guy, mysoginistic ahole, murder hobo.  

[statsgirl]

9 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

What does Sam's choice have to do with BMJason crying around town about Sonny/Carly/Robin?

Because she loves the guy and she doesn't want to destroy him.  And she well might if she tells him that everything he has lived for the past three years, everything that he remembers is a lie and because he isn't the Jason she fell in love with a decade ago, he's going to lose her and the life that he lives.  He's broken up enough about losing Sonny/Carly/Michael/Robin, it would be devastating to lose Sam and the kids too.

Yeah, I believe that SB is going to end up as the real Jason because I know it's a soap opera and that's how they roll, especially this one which for some reason I cannot fathom loves MB and SB. But in-show, it's by no means certain.  They both have Jason's DNA, they both have Jason's memories, and now that Oscar's mom has identified SB as "Drew", physically they couldn't be told apart.  Sam needs to be very sure before she blows apart her life and those of her kids.  And BMJason's.

[Perkie]

5 hours ago, fishcakes said:

I don't see how it benefits Franco to keep the secret. If Liz didn't care that he kidnapped Aiden, or helped Nina kidnap Avery, or, you know, ritualistically murdered a bunch of people, she's not going to care that he might have pushed Drew down the stairs when they were 3.

But he beleives that it will make a difference.  He believes that Liz has accepted those bad deeds because, say it with me, the tumour.  But if she finds out that he was a murder hobo as young as three, without the help of the, say it with me, tumour, then she'll run for the hills.  As she totally should.  

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

I would make it: "I love my husband" is the new "I was raped in prison," which was the new "I had an abortion," which was the new, "You killed my baby. You killed my brother."

But what does: "he had a tumour" replace?  

[Auntie Velvet]

OK, fine, we have confirmation of who Oscar's Dad is, which I never really cared about. (Good for Oscar, though. Quartermaine cash -- cha-ching!).

But I just realized that more importantly, Kim is someone who will presumably know tons of info about Drew's life prior to his amnesia, and we don't have to have Curtis taking a year to track down Drew's origin story.

So help me, if Kim says, "He never really talked about his past so all I know is he was a sailor for those three weeks I knew him," I'm going to scream.

Edited November 22, 2017 by Auntie Velvet

[Perkie]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

it's ridiculous that Maxie (and Nathan) are not with Felicia/Mac/Anna/Robin

Well, first of all Mac and Felicia were given their 4 minutes of screen time for November.  What more do you want?

Secondly, KimMc had pivotal, PIVOTAL scenes with both Jasons and CarSon in her 17 minute visit.  Asking for time with her mother and "sister" Maxie, well that just nonsense talk.  

[Hater]

These KM/SBu scenes:

Jason and Sam came across as old friends on screen not ex lovers.  

Edited November 22, 2017 by Hater

[Perkie]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

And could Bensch be any more perfect?

That's a set up for when we find out that he was the one behind the Two Jasons.  Or just to make it hard for Alexis to choose between the handsome, perfect doctor or her knife wielding ex con ex husband (and that's coming from a former julexis fan!)

[HeatLifer]

8 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Because she loves the guy and she doesn't want to destroy him.

Lying to him IS destroying him. Making him continue to believe that he's really Jason and going on this wild goose chase is a waste of time. 

 

9 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

But in-show, it's by no means certain.  They both have Jason's DNA, they both have Jason's memories, and now that Oscar's mom has identified SB as "Drew", physically they couldn't be told apart.  Sam needs to be very sure before she blows apart her life and those of her kids.  And BMJason's.

Sam is sure. She knows what the answer will be. She's avoiding that by lying to BMJason. Maybe she wants Diane to do the dirty work, I don't know. But I find it pretty untruthful for her to pretend like she doesn't know who Jason is.

[statsgirl]

SBJason is exactly the Jason who left ended up in the water five years ago.  BMJason is different, he's got different reactions and different priorities.  I know it's not going to happen but it would be an interesting twist if SBJason was the one who had the memories implanted and was frozen in time drugged in the Russian clinic, while BMJason is the real Jason who got a chance to mature.

11 minutes ago, Perkie said:

That's a set up for when we find out that he was the one behind the Two Jasons.  Or just to make it hard for Alexis to choose between the handsome, perfect doctor or her knife wielding ex con ex husband (and that's coming from a former julexis fan!)

Please make Bensch the villain!  Or at least more than an obvious detour to julexis.  Do we know how long JdP is staying?

[jsbt]

35 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

She's not lying to herself, lol. She knows.

I think on some level she knows, but doesn't want to believe it. This is a man she gave herself to and had a child with under certain pretenses who may turn out to be a stranger. That's a violation - of both of them, even if he had no idea. God knows I have rarely been Sam's biggest fan in the past, but this is something I fully sympathize with her on.

[HeatLifer]

3 minutes ago, jsbt said:

I think on some level she knows, but doesn't want to believe it. This is a man she gave herself to and had a child with under certain pretenses who may turn out to be a stranger. That's a violation - of both of them, even if he had no idea. God knows I have rarely been Sam's biggest fan in the past, but this is something I fully sympathize with her on.

It's not on some level, though. She actually knows. She is not hiding that fact in her scenes with OGJason today. It's not about me not sympathizing? She literally knows OG is Jason. 

[Neptune]

 

[Auntie Velvet]

Was today the first time that either Jason Morgan called Monica "Mom" ? 

[Star Aristille]

2 hours ago, LexieLily said:

So much for that shared custody that Valentin touted. Lulu doesn't even get Thanksgiving with Charlotte?

*Shrug*  Well, I'm happy about that, at least.

[ulkis]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Monica is one of the few characters on this show whose happiness I give a fig about so everyone coming in with the pizzas made me happy.

Best part? No Sonny, Carly, or Franco. I was spoiled for the pizza and thought they might not be able to resist having them there.

Edited November 22, 2017 by ulkis

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, Perkie said:

But what does: "he had a tumour" replace?  

They all go together!

Edited November 22, 2017 by ulkis

[magnolia11]

1 hour ago, Perkie said:

But he beleives that it will make a difference.  He believes that Liz has accepted those bad deeds because, say it with me, the tumour.  But if she finds out that he was a murder hobo as young as three, without the help of the, say it with me, tumour, then she'll run for the hills.  As she totally should.  

But what does: "he had a tumour" replace?  

"I wouldn't have shot him if I knew he was my son"?

[Auntie Velvet]

"Who are we supposed to be again?"

"No idea. Maybe one us is Leo? Shouldn't there be a Leo at one of these houses?"

[ulkis]

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"I wouldn't have shot him if I knew he was my son"?

Speaking of, DZ looked nice today. I don't mind much because this show is a character destroying soulcrush fest, but if FV had some sense he would use the character/actor.

Edited November 23, 2017 by ulkis

[fishcakes]

I thought it was weird that at both Sonny's and Alexis's, as soon as the timer went off, they announced the turkey was ready and it was time to eat. You can't take a turkey out of the oven or off the grill and immediately start eating it. It will be hotter than the sun. I don't know why these real life things are bothering me when I'm fine with, "Dr. Maddox took all of Jason's memories and put them in his identical twin brother who no one knew existed except for crazy Heather and crazy Betsy."

So was Tamara Braun talking with a fake voice when she was playing Carly or is she talking with a fake voice now? She's at least one octave higher.

[bannana]

I thought it was amazing that Auntie what's her name didn't scoop that turkey up, take it into the kitchen and dust it off.  I am assuming she is the only one who knows how to cook on that guest list.  I certainly would have salvaged the turkey.

[LillyB]

Two things made me happy today.  First, Jason Miller calling Monica. mom. Second, Michael ditching Snarly and Scummy for pizza with the "Q".

[peachmangosteen]

I hate myself but I actually teared up when everyone showed up at Monica's with pizza.

The only other part of the ep that was worth anything was DZ looking fine.

Although, as much as I don't want to admit it, I liked the Jason/Sam scenes.

Edited November 23, 2017 by peachmangosteen

[perkie1968]

2 hours ago, bannana said:

I thought it was amazing that Auntie what's her name didn't scoop that turkey up, take it into the kitchen and dust it off.  I am assuming she is the only one who knows how to cook on that guest list.  I certainly would have salvaged the turkey.

Me too!  It was only the bottom that touched the ground the rest was still intact.  Plus how dirty could Alexis' floor have been.  Plus what did she do with all her side dishes?  Nothing happened to them.  

[ulkis]

The only way Dr Bensch could appear even creepier is by dressing up as one of the killer clowns who shot Maxie's boyfriend.

[Cheyanne11]

3 hours ago, Hater said:

These KM/SBu scenes:

Jason and Sam came across as old friends on screen not ex lovers.  

Absolutely no heat or chemistry in those scenes.  Doesn't help that between the two of them they barely have a pulse.

I'm waiting for Kim to fill in the Drew blanks with "one day a well-dressed older woman came looking for him and I never saw him again."  

Also, gotta love how immediately defensive and bitchy Carly got when Kim had Sonny's number.  

[Hater]

2 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Absolutely no heat or chemistry in those scenes.  Doesn't help that between the two of them they barely have a pulse.

I'm waiting for Kim to fill in the Drew blanks with "one day a well-dressed older woman came looking for him and I never saw him again."  

Also, gotta love how immediately defensive and bitchy Carly got when Kim had Sonny's number.  

I'm suppose to believe these two were lovers for years, yet they are incredibly passive with each other.  They recite the lines but there is literally no emotion behind it for me.  I never thought there was anything great between them in the first place but right now there is zero going on between the actors.

Edited November 23, 2017 by Hater