Episode Discussion: TFGH

[LeftPhalange]

"We dated for like five minutes." When Kaka ad Morgan inevitable break up again and she goes back to sniffing around Dillon I hope he remembers this comment. I hate her. 

I can't tell if the writers are intentionally presenting Parker as creepy and predator-ish or if this is just their usual tone deaf writing. Regardless, I'm ready for her to go and never come back. 

I'm not sure what Ava thought she was doing. She didn't kill Valentin, the house is filled with his goons, and she isn't familiar with property. All she's accomplished is pissing off someone who would have no problems killing her. 

Spencers aren't known to run from a fight...um...

Nik had died/almost died three times in less than a year so I don't even know why Laura and Lulu are acting like this. 

This Cassadine Island stuff is tired and needs to be wrapped up immediately. Especially since the only Cassadine involved at this point is some weirdo whiny dude who showed up on the scene only a week ago. 

[P3pp3rb1rd]

4 hours ago, Darklazr said:

On 7/21/2016 at 9:43 PM, LegalParrot81 said:

TIIC are really working overtime to make Hayden a viable character.  I don't care who she might be related to, I'm still not going to give a fig if she's dead or alive.

Add Joe to my "I could care less" list.  I look at him as just another character created so one of Frank's pets can have a job.

ReBu has a four year deal and you will love her character since she will be propped until 2019.

Rebu has a FOUR YEAR DEAL when so many of the talented/experienced vets like Lucy, Scott, Monica, Tracy, Bobbie, and Laura are barely seen? Hayden's character is constantly changing (nympho to con artist to  coma victim to abused wife to abandoned single wife to addict's health care provider...). REBU doesn't act--she REACTS, depending on her character's current circumstances. Her hair hangs in her eyes, her eyes shift back and forth, she's jerky and watchful. She is a mess. There is nothing special about the actress...she just reacts obediently to the basic script. She isn't memorable in her expressions or voice or body language. She's cautious and therefore intensely boring. Are they gonna let her learn "on the job" over a period of four years? WHAT A STUPID IDEA! Show either needs to hire real talent in the younger non-vets or give the time and budget to the vets who have proven they can bring it.

Edited July 23, 2016 by P3pp3rb1rd

[Cobalt Stargazer]

On 7/21/2016 at 3:48 AM, LeftPhalange said:

Why can't they have Kristina hook up with a woman who doesn't look old enough to be her mother?

Someone told me about the Kristina/Parker storyline, and against what I laughingly refer to as my better judgement I'd been trying to give it a chance, but Lexi Ainsworth is way too young-looking. And I don't even care about that stuff usually, but there's something kind of hard about Ashley Jones' features, and its really jarring opposite LA's obvious youth.

[33kaitykaity]

To be a contrarian, just a smidgen, about Krissy being with Parker, when I was that age, I was stationed in Germany, in the Army. I had been married when I was 16 and my husband died.  I did not want that pain again, so my collection of play pals were all married and in their 30s/40s/50s.  They were all happy, lol.  I was aged 19 to 23 at the time.   

[peachmangosteen]

8 hours ago, LeftPhalange said:

I can't tell if the writers are intentionally presenting Parker as creepy and predator-ish or if this is just their usual tone deaf writing.

I can't figure that out either. I feel like we're probably not supposed to see her as badly as she's coming off though. 

I really don't have a problem with age differences and I actually usually don't have a problem with teacher/student relationships (like in general on tv), but Parker/Kristina just doesn't work on any level for me. It's just gross. I do think unfortunately some of that might just be due to the fact that LA still has such a baby face and AJ actually comes off older than her years. It might not be as weird if it was different casting.

Edited July 23, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[fishcakes]

21 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

I was very confused by the Valentine-clobbered scene. It seemed like he keeled over before Ava could even raise the book. I'm assuming it was bad blocking, but it was so mistimed that I was sure that someone else had shot him while she was still turning toward him.

I think she kneed him in the junk right before clobbering him with the book.

Edited July 24, 2016 by fishcakes

[In2You]

10 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Monica didn't get to lash out to Carly for covering up the murder of her son. Not to mention stealing the evidence that at the time rightfully belonged to her because AJ's property should have reverted to her. In fact both her and Sonny are now free and clear, they looking down their hypocritical noses at everyone else. The fact that no one countering Carly "Like you did to AJ" when she accuses Kiki of not being careful with with Morgan's recovery, says a lot.   If no one is going to treat Sonny and Carly as the pariahs that they should be for murder, why should Liz, Sabrina, Ric, Nik, Morgan, Ava, Kiki, Morgan, Nina, Franco, Julian, Nik, Bozo the Clown, etc.  suffer any sort of backlash for the crimes they commit?

I know Alexis has fallen out of favor, but I would like to show to remember that she is a Cassadine and once served as the right hand to Stefan Cassadine. Instead of this Julian shit, I wish she was at the island to laugh at Valentin's face or give him a similar speech to the one she gave to Sonny about being a Cassadine every time Valentin professes to know what a Cassadine is.

 

Alexis is a basted child too so that speech was always laughable. How's she gonna give another bastard a speech?

[LeftPhalange]

25 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I can't figure that out either. I feel like we're probably not supposed to see her as badly as she's coming off though. 

I really don't have a problem with age differences and I actually usually don't have a problem with teacher/student relationships (like in general on tv), but Parker/Kristina just doesn't work on any level for me. It's just gross. I do think unfortunately some of that might just be due to the fact that LA still has such a baby face and AJ actually comes off older than her years. It might not be as weird if it was different casting.

Ages differences and appearances aside, Parker is acting like she no longer has any use for Kristina now that they've had sex, which makes me wonder if this is what she's been after this whole time. I mean, she admitted that she knew it was inappropriate for her to get involved with Kristina and yet she did it anyway. It just makes her seem like she took advantage of Kristina's confusion because she liked the attention/wanted sex and now now doesn't want to deal with the fallout. 

[peachmangosteen]

It came off that way for sure, but for some reason I just have a feeling that wasn't the writers' intention. Oh, the reason is probably because the writers suck.

[Ambrosefolly]

14 minutes ago, In2You said:

 

Alexis is a basted child too so that speech was always laughable. How's she gonna give another bastard a speech?

Maybe not word for word, but in spirit. She is a bastard but one that was raised under the Cassadine roof, where she had to be protected and educated by Stefan, she should find it almost comical that Valentin would have any true idea what a Cassadine is, or how they should die or the most laughable of all, that as a male bastard, he would have somehow survived his childhood if Helena found out about him. If Helena was scared of Stefan, she would be scared of Valentin.

[NiqueAlexis]

9 hours ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

Someone told me about the Kristina/Parker storyline, and against what I laughingly refer to as my better judgement I'd been trying to give it a chance, but Lexi Ainsworth is way too young-looking. And I don't even care about that stuff usually, but there's something kind of hard about Ashley Jones' features, and its really jarring opposite LA's obvious youth.

She looks like she hasn't aged well too me & she looks very much her age so it's a huge throw off too me.

[sunnyface]

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ReBu has a four year deal and you will love her character since she will be propped until 2019.

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TIIC are really working overtime to make Hayden a viable character.  I don't care who she might be related to, I'm still not going to give a fig if she's dead or alive.

I don't mind Hayden sticking around.  Her scenes don't make me ragey like scenes involving Sonny/Carly/Jason/Morgan.  If anything, her scenes with Liz and Tracy have been my favorite scenes of late. ReBu doesn't have chemistry with ME but ME doesn't really have chemistry with anyone of late that isn't a lizard.

Morgan and Sonny are not easy on the eyes these days and their acting choices continue to underwhelm.

[dubbel zout]

36 minutes ago, sunnyface said:

ME doesn't really have chemistry with anyone of late that isn't a lizard.

I think he and Jane Elliott have chem, but I don't want Tracy saddled with Finn, at least not until the stupid drug story is over and done with. And given that I'm pretty sure they're positioning Rebecca Budig to be with Finn eventually, I definitely don't want Tracy in a triangle with her.

[In2You]

2 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Maybe not word for word, but in spirit. She is a bastard but one that was raised under the Cassadine roof, where she had to be protected and educated by Stefan, she should find it almost comical that Valentin would have any true idea what a Cassadine is, or how they should die or the most laughable of all, that as a male bastard, he would have somehow survived his childhood if Helena found out about him. If Helena was scared of Stefan, she would be scared of Valentin.

Wasn't Helena scared of Valentin? Because when they first started mentioning him he was the Cassadine so bad Helena was shaking in her boots.

[LegalParrot81]

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If Helena was scared of Stefan, she would be scared of Valentin.

Which, if my old feeble memory is correct, is exactly what she said when they attempted to crank up this story 4-6 years ago. 

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ReBu has a four year deal and you will love her character since she will be propped until 2019

Passante will do whatever she needs to do to make ReBu the female lead of this show.  They adore each other to the point of projectile vomiting.

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I think he and Jane Elliott have chem, but I don't want Tracy saddled with Finn

Don't think that's even a remote possibility.  It's floating around out there that Jane Elliott is retiring this fall when her contract is up. 

Edited July 23, 2016 by LegalParrot81

[Chairperson Meow]

19 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I know. They're so much more appealing that Lauren and Morgan, sex guilter. Ugh. And ew. 

Morgan Corinthos-  Sex Guilter.  We've found his super villain name.  

[jsbt]

On July 22, 2016 at 0:31 PM, ulkis said:

I'll take your word for it; it's all a blur. Admittedly those two characters annoy me because their only characteristics seem to be "steal snark from the internet to throw at Liz".

Yeah, that shit has always driven me nuts. "Oh, we'll take what they say and that'll do the work for us!" Snark is not a firm basis for an actual character. It wasn't for Britt with a mediocre actress and it isn't with Rebecca Budig basically doing Greenlee shades Bianca.

[TeeVee329]

Re: everyone's reaction to Parker.  Again, I have to wonder if the show was stacking the deck in this Kristina explores her sexuality storyline with the female interest being inappropriate in a couple of ways.  This story would have been better with a female interest closer to Kristina's age, and you mostly could have told it the same way, with Kristina dating Aaron but still feeling a pull towards this other woman.

Maybe I missed it, but Kristina was only supposed to be suspended for a semester, right?  Was she planning on going back to school?  Maybe that's why Parker's here, to break Krissy's heart so she bails on school altogether.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Re: everyone's reaction to Parker.  Again, I have to wonder if the show was stacking the deck in this Kristina explores her sexuality storyline with the female interest being inappropriate in a couple of ways.  This story would have been better with a female interest closer to Kristina's age

Or at least if Kristina looked old enough to get a drink in a bar without carding. I could deal with it if Girl Child didn't look like a Girl Child.

[Thorpe]

I did not like Rebecca Budig as Greenlee on AMC, but I do like her as Hayden. I surprisingly like Michael Easton's Finn as well, and I think the two have chemistry and very much like their scenes. 

Another surprising pair I continue to like is Elizabeth and Franco. I think they have the best chemistry of any pair on this show at the moment. I've enjoyed them since they first started sharing scenes. 

I'm also liking Kevin/Laura and, to a lesser extent, Kiki and Dillon. I was enjoying Nik/Ava before Nik re-died. 

The new couplings are kicking established couplings butt. For me anyway.

[Darklazr]

18 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

I think both of you are right. Sure, Hayden got things going with the marriage lie with "Jake Doe". UGH. But...then Liz basically did the same thing later while acting high and mighty to Hayden, so it's a wash.

My point is that Elizabeth did absolutely nothing to Hayden from the jump and there would have been no need for the "lie" if the writers weren't so hell bent on trashing Elizabeth or Nik.

[dubbel zout]

53 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

This story would have been better with a female interest closer to Kristina's age, and you mostly could have told it the same way, with Kristina dating Aaron but still feeling a pull towards this other woman.

Exactly. The fact that Parker was Kristina's professor adds an unnecessary level of ick, AFAIC.

53 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Was she planning on going back to school?

I think that's still up in the air. She'd been generally unhappy with her classes until the one with Parker, and then that blew up in her face with the inappropriate behavior (on both sides). I hope the show has her transfer to PCU and finish up there. It's gross how education, especially for the wimmins, is found so unnecessary. I get the creative problems, but they're not insurmountable.

ETA: I forgot to add that it cracked me up how Molly slipped in that she and TJ were going to live together, and Alexis was like, "I'm going to freak out for a while over my life, but I'm not forgetting we're going to have a serious talk, missy!"

Edited July 23, 2016 by dubbel zout

[WendyCR72]

1 hour ago, Darklazr said:

My point is that Elizabeth did absolutely nothing to Hayden from the jump and there would have been no need for the "lie" if the writers weren't so hell bent on trashing Elizabeth or Nik.

To be fair, Hayden was about the money from Ric. It had zip to do with Liz. Sure, Hayden ruined it for Liz with the lie, but objectively, Hayden had no idea who Liz was, didn't know her, and was for her own gain. If anything, it was Ric who jerked Liz around.

In the end, though, Liz was just as reprehensible, so she no longer really has a reason to play the superiority card with Hayden whatsoever. If these two are related (UGH!), I can already see some family resemblance with their behavior.  :-P

[NiqueAlexis]

3 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

To be fair, Hayden was about the money from Ric. It had zip to do with Liz. Sure, Hayden ruined it for Liz with the lie, but objectively, Hayden had no idea who Liz was, didn't know her, and was for her own gain. If anything, it was Ric who jerked Liz around.

In the end, though, Liz was just as reprehensible, so she no longer really has a reason to play the superiority card with Hayden whatsoever. If these two are related (UGH!), I can already see some family resemblance with their behavior.  :-P

I don't fuckin understand if they wanted too establish & tie RBU too the show so fuckin bad why not cast her as Sarah. If they wanted them to be related that bad. If that was the ultimate goal. Otherwise it comes across as wholly incompetent. Sarah hasn't been shown in over a decade & I know she was the good one but people change. She could come back with bad girl tendencies especially since that's what RBu greatest strength is.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

16 hours ago, LeftPhalange said:

Parker is acting like she no longer has any use for Kristina now that they've had sex, which makes me wonder if this is what she's been after this whole time. I mean, she admitted that she knew it was inappropriate for her to get involved with Kristina and yet she did it anyway. It just makes her seem like she took advantage of Kristina's confusion because she liked the attention/wanted sex and now now doesn't want to deal with the fallout.

Yes this is a good possible interpretation, but consider also that Parker has remarked that she is going through a divorce and has confusing feelings herself. Parker knows it is inappropriate but her marriage was breaking up and she feels intensely vulnerable and probably lonely. Kristina senses that, and might be considered a predator herself trying to take advantage. Kristina has been very pushy towards Parker virtually every time; Parker has been the one backing away til now.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

14 hours ago, LegalParrot81 said:

Passante will do whatever she needs to do to make ReBu the female lead of this show.  They adore each other to the point of projectile vomiting.

Funny--projectile vomiting is the impulse I experience more and more when ReBu is on the scene. I find the character to be very unattractive and overcautious.

Edited July 24, 2016 by P3pp3rb1rd

[P3pp3rb1rd]

12 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Maybe that's why Parker's here, to break Krissy's heart so she bails on school altogether.

I would not be surprised to see Krissy bail on school. Finishing school means growing up, and Krissy is all about staying a child and avoiding adult choices and responsibilities. She was ridiculous when running around telling her family et al. out loud that she was so unsure about her sexuality still. By Krissy's chronological age, most people in Western countries have had plenty of social interaction and hormonal body experiences to have a personal sense of leaning in one direction or another (or being equally attracted). Coming out, if she isn't heterosexual, would probably be something she might want to do in public, but in her heart she must already have some idea by now about what her preferred orientation is. If she is trying to say that she is bisexual, she should know that situation by now in her heart and mind too. I just don't buy her attitude of clueless fluidity; it's a way to avoid ANY responsibility for her sexual feelings and impulses from day-to-day. She desperately needs therapy.

[TessHarding2]

On 7/22/2016 at 3:01 PM, TeeVee329 said:

They shot Kevin!

You bastards!

I just took a look at Friday's show.  Not to worry, that's the GH shoulder wound.  Lots of blood followed up by an arm sling for a week.  I don't know the backstory with Kristina and the woman, but that actress just looks and sounds like teenager.  She was terrible with Ethan.  I don't know why they brought her back.  What wigged me out was Ashley Jones - former lover of Jack Wagner in real life.  What if Kristina Wagner was on the set?  I'm kidding but it's far more interesting to me than this crapola.

[RedheadZombie]

I haven't been paying too much attention the last few months, but started mostly watching again.  I was so confused by the Valentin character.  I thought he was part of the SL of Helena leaving posthumous bread crumbs for Laura, and immediately assumed he was Nikolas's fraternal twin, kept secret by Helena, etc.  It made sense because the actors are similar in age, I thought he was acting particularly bitter toward Laura, and it fit that he would think he's owed what Nikolas had by birthright.   And I've always liked the troupe of unknown adult child coming to town and seeking revenge on their unsuspecting parent.   Like Vicki from OLTL, and two of her daughters.  But no Eterna please.

I like my version better. 

[Asp Burger]

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I hate to say this but I wouldn't be a bit upset if Sonny did something to Parker for hurting the girl child.

Be careful what you wish for. His version of "doing something" to her would probably consist of yelling borderline-homophobic things at her, calling her a bitch, and then having hate sex with her. Afterward, she'll say cringe-worthy stuff like "I was with a man once when I was young, but I never dreamed it could be like this!" and get obsessed with him. Then she'll turn up pregnant with Sonny's fourteenth child, and they'll drag it out forever that she's going to be showing soon and Kristina will wonder who got Parker pregnant, and what will happen when Carly finds out? It will be a "high-risk pregnancy" or some shit, and she'll move in with Sonny and Carly. We'll be getting simultaneous Kristina/Parker/Sonny, Aaron/Kristina/Parker, and Carly/Sonny/Parker triangles five days a week.  

Don't say they wouldn't, either.  

Edited July 24, 2016 by Asp Burger

[dubbel zout]

9 hours ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

She was ridiculous when running around telling her family et al. out loud that she was so unsure about her sexuality still.

Everyone's journey is different.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

How old is Kristina supposed to be? Like, when was she born in GH canon?

[OnceSane]

33 minutes ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

How old is Kristina supposed to be? Like, when was she born in GH canon?

She was born in 2002 and SORASed to a teen in 2009.

[NiqueAlexis]

1 hour ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

How old is Kristina supposed to be? Like, when was she born in GH canon?

14 yrs old 

[fishcakes]

She left for Yale in 2011. Presumably she was 18 then, so she should be around 23 now.

[tvgoddess]

Well, finally all caught up, guys. So now you get to hear me rant a bit and praise a bit.

On 7/22/2016 at 0:34 PM, TeeVee329 said:

I didn't get around to commenting on them, but LUCY!!!!!!!!!!!! and Scotty were fun yesterday.  It's a little annoying that Lucy is now also a bit player in the Raymond Berlin crap, but hopefully them both being broke will lead to some fun scheming.  I also enjoyed them basically not giving a shit about Franco's presence until they could sponge a fancy dinner out of him, and Lucy's withering skepticism about his interest in Liz was delightful.

And on a more shallow note, Lynn Herring looked great.

THIS. These might have been (almost) my favorite scenes of the week. I adore Lucy, I adore Scotty, and I adore Lucy and Scotty together. They have so much great history, friendship chemistry, scheming chemistry and sexy chemistry. I really just love them to death.

On 7/22/2016 at 6:43 PM, TeeVee329 said:

Well, what's different for me this time is how firmly anti-Morgan I am.  I loathed Kiki and Michael - and everyone lining up to tell Morgan that he just had to suck it up and not get mad about his brother snaking his girlfriend/wife.

I think what worked about Kiki and Dillon compared to other stabs at couples lately is that they developed at a proper, on-screen, slow burn pace.  But maybe that's the only way that works, maybe any more dramatic/triangle-y story would have sunk them.

And THIS! Ugh, remember how smug and condescending Michael and Kiki were? HATED both of them. I still love Kiki and Dillon, and I will wait to see what happens. The sex scene with her and Morgan? Vomit inducing? I had to FF, and I never FF.

I have decided I will give Dr. Joe a chance before I bail on him completely. I was pretty dead set against the idea, but if it's going to happen I want to see where it goes and who he ends up with.

Hair was a tragic mess this week. That growth on Morgan's face? The curly flippy thing and the two tone hair on Carly? And that bright little sunshiney dress? Ugh, hate it so much. If I have to watch much more of Sonny and Carly: Mr. and Mrs. Seventh Heaven, I'll have a rage blackout. And speaking of clergy, I was getting annoyed by everyone acting like Griffin being a priest was a fate worse than death, but after seeing his pious bullshit towards Julian? Just shut up.

Lucy's and Liz's reactions to Heather were hilarious. Ric was looking good, and I'm glad he got to drag Liz even if only for a second.

I agree with most on the Parker thing. It just doesn't look like a level playing field, and it makes it look creepy and gross.

So over Finn. And that Nina/Curtis thing where he's investigating the plastic surgeons? I could not be more bored.

Finally, Friday and Cassadine Island. GF was pretty good up until the NEVER!! NEVER!!!!!! stuff. I could have handled the rest but that just put it way out there. But I still liked her reaction overall. 

I don't care that Ava shouldn't be in this storyline. I don't care if she isn't a Cassadine. I don't care if she's considered useless. I loved her Friday scenes, all of them. It's about damn time that I get a day that I get to love the writing for my fave. It makes sense that she'd try to use sex as a weapon, it's what she's good at. And I thought that her and Valentin were kind of hot, although I'd still want to see her with Nik (Tyler).

Did anyone else get annoyed at Lulu reciting the directions over and over again?

[stlbf]

20 hours ago, NiqueAlexis said:

I don't fuckin understand if they wanted too establish & tie RBU too the show so fuckin bad why not cast her as Sarah. If they wanted them to be related that bad. If that was the ultimate goal. Otherwise it comes across as wholly incompetent. Sarah hasn't been shown in over a decade & I know she was the good one but people change. She could come back with bad girl tendencies especially since that's what RBu greatest strength is.

The only thing with Sarah was that she was always cast as a literal golden child. Tall, blonde, pretty and smart like her doctor parents. Which was why Liz always had a pretty bad case of sibling inferiority complex when she first came to town. She grew up feeling second best with her "perfect" sister and brother. They looked perfect to her. They had straight As in school, never caused trouble and were very easy to raise.

But Sarah and Liz seem to have got past over everything. Last I remember,  Sarah was living in California.  Because I remember Liz taking the boys and even Spencer to visit her. I think that she is also married. But I'm not 100% on that. 

So I just don't think that I could buy RBU as Sarah. Me? I still think that it would've been better to make her Liz and Sarah's cousin. Making RBU the daughter of an unknown aunt or uncle to them. Via their unnamed mother.

As for the Cassadine stuff, what a disappointing disaster! Valentin is just a whiner? This is the man who made Helena fearful? Meh. So far, this storyline is just a joke.

[dubbel zout]

14 minutes ago, stlbf said:

Making RBU the daughter of an unknown aunt or uncle to them.

That wouldn't improve anything: Valerie hasn't exactly been a roaring success as a heretofore unknown Spencer cousin. What they need to do is write a distinctive character, not graft someone onto an existing family and expect that to do all the heavy lifting.

[peachmangosteen]

2 hours ago, tvgoddess said:

Did anyone else get annoyed at Lulu reciting the directions over and over again?

YES! It was so bizarre. I don't get what the point of it was.

[TeeVee329]

2 hours ago, stlbf said:

But Sarah and Liz seem to have got past over everything. Last I remember,  Sarah was living in California.  Because I remember Liz taking the boys and even Spencer to visit her. I think that she is also married. But I'm not 100% on that.

Yeah, I seem to recall Liz going to visit Sarah off-screen around when Aiden was born (probably as cover for RH's own maternity leave).  And I do think we've heard Sarah is married and possibly has kids (I always thought Sarah shipping her daughter to stay with Liz and Liz being the Audrey to a wild teen would make for good story).

[In2You]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

Yeah, I seem to recall Liz going to visit Sarah off-screen around when Aiden was born (probably as cover for RH's own maternity leave).  And I do think we've heard Sarah is married and possibly has kids (I always thought Sarah shipping her daughter to stay with Liz and Liz being the Audrey to a wild teen would make for good story).

If Liz has to take care of aq wild teen it should be no teen but her own. Cam is long overdue for SORAS

[In2You]

18 hours ago, fishcakes said:

She left for Yale in 2011. Presumably she was 18 then, so she should be around 23 now.

When she returned last time she was sorased to 21 however GH has aged up  and down the Corinthos children multiple times since.

I don't know why dating is considered a story on GH. There's no reason Kristina can't explore her sexuality with people her age while working towards a career. They keep having her drop out of school simply to date someone for a couple of months and once the story flops she's gone again. They contradict themselves with that writing because she went to college with credits already and then when she was away again they said she was taking extra classes to catch up on what she had missed. Between the  college credits she went in with and the summer and winter sessions plus additional classses she shouldn't  be in her 6 th yr of school with no end in sight. 

Morgan is another contradiction. He was always the more level headed one as he should be having witnessed all the stuff with Michael and Kristina and having Jax's good influence. And he went to military school. He doesn't act like someone who attended military school at all. Those schools offer structure,discipline, and leadership skills which he shows no signs of. And this kid was attending Vanderbilt yet seems to have no motivation to do anything in life beside have sex.

Edited July 25, 2016 by In2You

[TeeVee329]

38 minutes ago, In2You said:

If Liz has to take care of aq wild teen it should be no teen but her own. Cam is long overdue for SORAS

Oh, ask anyone, I have long advocated for Cam to be SORASed.  But still, I like the idea of the show introducing a young teen Webber through Sarah and Liz being her Audrey.  Certainly makes more sense than fuckin' Felix's little sister. #eyeroll

Edited July 25, 2016 by TeeVee329

[stlbf]

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

That wouldn't improve anything: Valerie hasn't exactly been a roaring success as a heretofore unknown Spencer cousin. What they need to do is write a distinctive character, not graft someone onto an existing family and expect that to do all the heavy lifting.

[stlbf]

*sigh* stupid phone

So it isn't the idea that is the problem, it is the stupid hack writers and idiots in charge?

The idea of Valerie was fine. It is the fact that the morons in charge screwed over the character. 

[P3pp3rb1rd]

7 hours ago, In2You said:

Morgan is another contradiction. He was always the more level headed one as he should be having witnessed all the stuff with Michael and Kristina and having Jax's good influence. And he went to military school. He doesn't act like someone who attended military school at all. Those schools offer structure,discipline, and leadership skills which he shows no signs of. And this kid was attending Vanderbilt yet seems to have no motivation to do anything in life beside have sex.

Agreed! Did his bipolar condition wipe out all his positive upbringing and military training? It seems Morgan is extremely immature due to the influence of Carly and Sonny, and almost infantile without his meds. I'm glad he is working at the coffee shop (and at the warehouse previously), but Sonny and Carly got those jobs ready-made for him, so he didn't even land them on his own. Morgan seems just short of brain-damaged to me, and I wonder if his medical problems include brain damage as well as the bipolar problem. I wonder if he had "failure to thrive" when very young.

[In2You]

4 hours ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

Agreed! Did his bipolar condition wipe out all his positive upbringing and military training? It seems Morgan is extremely immature due to the influence of Carly and Sonny, and almost infantile without his meds. I'm glad he is working at the coffee shop (and at the warehouse previously), but Sonny and Carly got those jobs ready-made for him, so he didn't even land them on his own. Morgan seems just short of brain-damaged to me, and I wonder if his medical problems include brain damage as well as the bipolar problem. I wonder if he had "failure to thrive" when very young.

Working at the coffee shop isnt even a rel job. Cuz who's honestly going to a coffee shop every day they know is run by a crime family? And he did more messing around with Darby than actual work at the warehouse. 

Morgan basically came back as a retread on teen Michael and then they gave him bipolar disorder to excuse his actions. And it never made sense as he was the child who spent the least amount of time around the dysfunction

[peachmangosteen]

4 minutes ago, In2You said:

Cuz who's honestly going to a coffee shop every day they know is run by a crime family?

That coffee shop is owned by the hero of Port Charles how dare you!

[LeftPhalange]

21 minutes ago, In2You said:

Working at the coffee shop isnt even a rel job. Cuz who's honestly going to a coffee shop every day they know is run by a crime family?

There are few institutions in PC that weren't created by criminals, aren't being managed by criminals, and/or being funded by criminals. 

Edited July 25, 2016 by LeftPhalange

[Cobalt Stargazer]

2 hours ago, In2You said:

Working at the coffee shop isnt even a rel job. Cuz who's honestly going to a coffee shop every day they know is run by a crime family?

The same people who still go to Sonny's parties when the likelihood of there being a shootout is seventy/thirty.