Kim Kardashian Thomas Humphries West

[iwasish]

I was watching an old episode yesterday, the one where Kris gets a condo for herself so that Kimmy isn't so stressed living in mom's house (Kim's water breaks at the very end) and it made me wonder... why the big drama about Kim being forced to move  out of Kris's house, due to  Kris giving furniture to Rob, accusing Kim and Kanye of causing a roach infestation and scratching the driveway, if Kris wasn't even living there? Or did they forget the story line?

[GaT]

I saw this on Reddit, OMG, no idea who the guy on top is, the bottom is Rihanna, and guess who the middle pictures are? 

http://imgur.com/TuoszcF

[chocolatine]

1 hour ago, GaT said:

I saw this on Reddit, OMG, no idea who the guy on top is, the bottom is Rihanna, and guess who the middle pictures are? 

http://imgur.com/TuoszcF

That's Cristiano Ronaldo, one of the most famous soccer players in the world.

[Petunia13]

Is that them as kids before they blossomed? 

[GaT]

1 hour ago, Petunia13 said:

Is that them as kids before they blossomed? 

The title of it is "Your not ugly your just poor." (not my spelling LOL), so it's supposed to be people before & after they became rich. What amazes me is Kim's hairline, she must have had her entire forehead lazered to get the hairline she has now.

[iwasish]

On July 24, 2016 at 0:42 PM, Crucial said:

There will be a time (I only hope it's VERY soon) that this family will be shot down for the crap they do.  I'm not team Taylor but I really, really want there to be a lawsuit against Kim and Kanye and it have the very negative effects to them.  I'm sick of them both.  I only hope Khloe will pick the wrong one to bully and it has very, very bad effects on her whole persona.  I'm tired of them doing whatever they want to to do in the media and getting aways with it.  There will be a time when their whole family is off the grid.  One can only hope Pimp Momma Kris's deal with the Devil isn't too much longer.  I can't wait to see that big ass Kim desparate for any attention and getting none.  That would be a perfect for that fame whore.

I have a theory that Kim is so unhappy that she's turned into mean girl. The last 4 years have been about having kids and then being desperate to become a MILF.  Kanye reportedly is pushing for baby number three( if we believe Kim). Kim is not and I don't think she ever planned to be a mommy mom, I think 2 is her limit. Top that with Khloe and Kourtney both in their  best shape ever and Kylie and Kendall becoming powerhouses in the business also, Kimmust be feeling the pressure. She's stuck wearing Kanye's crappy clothes and being his defender. She's bored, unhappy and hungry, a receipe for mean girl.

[iwasish]

28 minutes ago, GaT said:

The title of it is "Your not ugly your just poor." (not my spelling LOL), so it's supposed to be people before & after they became rich. What amazes me is Kim's hairline, she must have had her entire forehead lazered to get the hairline she has now.

She lasered her entire body. Hairline to toes, including snatch and underarms. She commented that she was pissed that her pregnancy hormones caused some regrowth and she had to get touch ups.

[BitterApple]

4 hours ago, iwasish said:

Kanye reportedly is pushing for baby number three( if we believe Kim). Kim is not and I don't think she ever planned to be a mommy mom, I think 2 is her limit. 

Honestly, I don't even think Kim wanted Baby #2, except Kanye had to have a son. She strikes me as the type of woman who has kids because she's supposed to, not because she particularly enjoys them or wants to be a mother.

Kim was always vapid and shallow, but in the early years I liked her much better than Kourtney and Khloe. I think being married to Kanye is taking its toll. I find it incredibly worrisome that Kim is always in damage control mode whenever Kanye is concerned. It wouldn't surprise me if he was verbally and emotionally abusive to her behind closed doors. I think Kim puts up with it because she doesn't want to be 35, single, two kids deep and three failed marriages under her belt. 

[Veronique Bette]

14 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Is that them as kids before they blossomed? 

That bushy eye brow, bespectacled “ugly duckling” shot is not a real picture of Kim. It’s a computer-generated fake image of her created by a British design company, VoucherCodesPro, who were trying to imagine what celebrities like Kim, Tom Cruise, and others would look like if they hadn’t become famous and "did not have teams of hair stylists, make-up artists, plastic surgeons and fashion consultants”. (Below is their image of Tom Cruise.) Ironically, Kim was always a very pretty girl and it was fame that caused her to “enhance” her face and figure unnecessarily and in the process diminish and distort her natural beauty.

[MarysWetBar]

On 30/07/2016 at 6:21 AM, Veronique Bette said:

That bushy eye brow, bespectacled “ugly duckling” shot is not a real picture of Kim. It’s a computer-generated fake image of her created by a British design company, VoucherCodesPro, who were trying to imagine what celebrities like Kim, Tom Cruise, and others would look like if they hadn’t become famous and "did not have teams of hair stylists, make-up artists, plastic surgeons and fashion consultants”. (Below is their image of Tom Cruise.) Ironically, Kim was always a very pretty girl and it was fame that caused her to “enhance” her face and figure unnecessarily and in the process diminish and distort her natural beauty.

I saw that right away. Her eyebrows looked jacked. Like a reallllly bad Photoshop experiment. She was a very pretty girl before she ruined her looks.

[qtpye]

One of the most naturally pretty girls I had ever seen.  She even stood out among celebrities, particularly since then everybody was trying to copy that Brittany/ Paris look back then.  She probably would have aged really well and did not need all that surgery.

[iwasish]

1 hour ago, qtpye said:

One of the most naturally pretty girls I had ever seen.  She even stood out among celebrities, particularly since then everybody was trying to copy that Brittany/ Paris look back then.  She probably would have aged really well and did not need all that surgery.

It wasn't just her looks that stood out. She actually had some type of personality that jumped off the screen.  Very natural and at ease in front of the camera. Now she stalks around unsmiling and frozen faced.  To be honest I hope for the day she falls on her fat ass in front of the paps and they just let her flop around while taking pictures of it. She needs a good dose of humility.

[GaT]

2 hours ago, iwasish said:

Now she stalks around unsmiling and frozen faced.  

She doesn't have a choice, Botox will do that to you.

[RoxieBear73]

3 hours ago, iwasish said:

It wasn't just her looks that stood out. She actually had some type of personality that jumped off the screen.  Very natural and at ease in front of the camera. Now she stalks around unsmiling and frozen faced.  To be honest I hope for the day she falls on her fat ass in front of the paps and they just let her flop around while taking pictures of it. She needs a good dose of humility.

I concur... I actually liked the old Kimmy from years past, because she had the "it" factor for reality tv.... this new Kimmy  is just a robot with no emotion and so into herself, she can't see what is in front of her 

[iwasish]

47 minutes ago, GaT said:

She doesn't have a choice, Botox will do that to you.

True, I find it sad that Kanye sees her so much as an object and not a person and that she has allowed him to dictate how she looks and dresses. I think it's clear from his little pout in Iceland that Kim has to dance to his tune or be subjected to pouty face  until she "makes it up to him" and is forgiven.

[BitterApple]

Having to walk on eggshells 24/7 so your husband doesn't have temper tantrums would suck the life out of anyone. Hopefully Kim doesn't have to beard for Kanye too much longer and she can get some of her spark back.

Edited August 2, 2016 by BitterApple

[Petunia13]

I think not. 

Kayne wants to run for president next term and he needs his Melania 

[iwasish]

Bad enough Clinton was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office, think about  Kim getting fucked on the sink in the White House bathroom(s) and taking naked selfies in every room. 

[Veronique Bette]

On ‎8‎/‎1‎/‎2016 at 9:36 PM, BitterApple said:

Having to walk on eggshells 24/7 so your husband doesn't have temper tantrums would suck the life out of anyone. Hopefully Kim doesn't have to beard for Kanye too much longer and she can get some of her spark back.

The last time I saw any natural “spark” in Kim was back when she was with Reggie Bush, the only man I believe she genuinely loved and was physically and sexually attracted to. From what I’ve heard and read, even her infamous “performance” with RayJ was lackluster and consisted of her staring at the camera with what she must have thought passed for sensuality, and mechanically uttering cliché porn exclamations. Her bubbly reality show persona was created to fit the then-amusing KUWTK sitcom theme, but I believe that she was always a selfish, shallow and narcissistic person who lorded it over her sisters that she was “the pretty one” in the family. Her relationship and marriage to Kris Humphries was especially cynical and calculated because she could not stand that the plain sister, Khloe, had had the first spectacular televised wedding on the show, so she just had to find a groom, any groom, in order to outdo her. Dumping Kris H. and “upgrading” to Kanye was also a calculated move on her part because Kanye was wealthy and more importantly, could bring her even more exposure, camera time, social media chatter and an entry into the world of fashion that included coveted covers of Vogue and now Harpers plus invites to the Met Ball and other events formerly denied to her. Kim and Kanye knew what they were doing and are still reaping benefits in terms of publicity and attention that neither one of them could have achieved on their own.

I don’t see Kim as unhappy and grim in her photos; in fact, she always seems to have a self-satisfied smirk on her face to be in the limelight. I think she glories in Kanye’s rants and meltdowns because controversies bring coverage – attention -- her life blood and Kanye’s as well. There was no reason for her to post her recent article about the sad fate of her extended family’s pets except to create social media reaction, even though she knew it would be uniformly negative. The only time jealous, competitive Kim is seriously unhappy is when she is not the center of attention and particularly if any other female, even a family member, is getting that attention. She reminds me of the wicked stepmother in the “Snow White” fairy tale who is driven to an insane fury when her daily question of “Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest one of all?” does not bring back the expected answer of “You, of course, my dear.” Without Kanye she would have even less “spark” than now, because I don't think she has any soul and so would continue to look like the empty vessel that she is.

23 hours ago, iwasish said:

Bad enough Clinton was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office, think about  Kim getting fucked on the sink in the White House bathroom(s) and taking naked selfies in every room. 

 Yep, there would definitely be naked selfies in every WH room, but sex? I sometimes think that these two boast a lot more about sex than actually having it; Kanye, because he wants to foster a macho stud image of himself and Kim, because she wants to be seen as the irresistible object of Kanye’s insane desires.

[GaT]

22 minutes ago, Veronique Bette said:

I believe that she was always a selfish, shallow and narcissistic person who lorded it over her sisters that she was “the pretty one” in the family.

Check out this video of her from when she was 13. Being famous was all she ever wanted.

[DangerousMinds]

1 hour ago, Veronique Bette said:

The last time I saw any natural “spark” in Kim was back when she was with Reggie Bush, the only man I believe she genuinely loved and was physically and sexually attracted to. From what I’ve heard and read, even her infamous “performance” with RayJ was lackluster and consisted of her staring at the camera with what she must have thought passed for sensuality, and mechanically uttering cliché porn exclamations. Her bubbly reality show persona was created to fit the then-amusing KUWTK sitcom theme, but I believe that she was always a selfish, shallow and narcissistic person who lorded it over her sisters that she was “the pretty one” in the family. Her relationship and marriage to Kris Humphries was especially cynical and calculated because she could not stand that the plain sister, Khloe, had had the first spectacular televised wedding on the show, so she just had to find a groom, any groom, in order to outdo her. Dumping Kris H. and “upgrading” to Kanye was also a calculated move on her part because Kanye was wealthy and more importantly, could bring her even more exposure, camera time, social media chatter and an entry into the world of fashion that included coveted covers of Vogue and now Harpers plus invites to the Met Ball and other events formerly denied to her. Kim and Kanye knew what they were doing and are still reaping benefits in terms of publicity and attention that neither one of them could have achieved on their own.

I don’t see Kim as unhappy and grim in her photos; in fact, she always seems to have a self-satisfied smirk on her face to be in the limelight. I think she glories in Kanye’s rants and meltdowns because controversies bring coverage – attention -- her life blood and Kanye’s as well. There was no reason for her to post her recent article about the sad fate of her extended family’s pets except to create social media reaction, even though she knew it would be uniformly negative. The only time jealous, competitive Kim is seriously unhappy is when she is not the center of attention and particularly if any other female, even a family member, is getting that attention. She reminds me of the wicked stepmother in the “Snow White” fairy tale who is driven to an insane fury when her daily question of “Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest one of all?” does not bring back the expected answer of “You, of course, my dear.” Without Kanye she would have even less “spark” than now, because I don't think she has any soul and so would continue to look like the empty vessel that she is.

 Yep, there would definitely be naked selfies in every WH room, but sex? I sometimes think that these two boast a lot more about sex than actually having it; Kanye, because he wants to foster a macho stud image of himself and Kim, because she wants to be seen as the irresistible object of Kanye’s insane desires.

Best comment ever.

[iwasish]

3 hours ago, Veronique Bette said:

The last time I saw any natural “spark” in Kim was back when she was with Reggie Bush, the only man I believe she genuinely loved and was physically and sexually attracted to. From what I’ve heard and read, even her infamous “performance” with RayJ was lackluster and consisted of her staring at the camera with what she must have thought passed for sensuality, and mechanically uttering cliché porn exclamations. Her bubbly reality show persona was created to fit the then-amusing KUWTK sitcom theme, but I believe that she was always a selfish, shallow and narcissistic person who lorded it over her sisters that she was “the pretty one” in the family. Her relationship and marriage to Kris Humphries was especially cynical and calculated because she could not stand that the plain sister, Khloe, had had the first spectacular televised wedding on the show, so she just had to find a groom, any groom, in order to outdo her. Dumping Kris H. and “upgrading” to Kanye was also a calculated move on her part because Kanye was wealthy and more importantly, could bring her even more exposure, camera time, social media chatter and an entry into the world of fashion that included coveted covers of Vogue and now Harpers plus invites to the Met Ball and other events formerly denied to her. Kim and Kanye knew what they were doing and are still reaping benefits in terms of publicity and attention that neither one of them could have achieved on their own.

I don’t see Kim as unhappy and grim in her photos; in fact, she always seems to have a self-satisfied smirk on her face to be in the limelight. I think she glories in Kanye’s rants and meltdowns because controversies bring coverage – attention -- her life blood and Kanye’s as well. There was no reason for her to post her recent article about the sad fate of her extended family’s pets except to create social media reaction, even though she knew it would be uniformly negative. The only time jealous, competitive Kim is seriously unhappy is when she is not the center of attention and particularly if any other female, even a family member, is getting that attention. She reminds me of the wicked stepmother in the “Snow White” fairy tale who is driven to an insane fury when her daily question of “Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest one of all?” does not bring back the expected answer of “You, of course, my dear.” Without Kanye she would have even less “spark” than now, because I don't think she has any soul and so would continue to look like the empty vessel that she is.

 Yep, there would definitely be naked selfies in every WH room, but sex? I sometimes think that these two boast a lot more about sex than actually having it; Kanye, because he wants to foster a macho stud image of himself and Kim, because she wants to be seen as the irresistible object of Kanye’s insane desires.

I think you may be correct about the lack of sexual chemistry between Kim and Kanye.  I've never seen any. Friends? Yes, I think they are good friends but I see no heat between them. Neither did I ever see any between Khloe and Lamar.  

[Scarlett45]

4 hours ago, Veronique Bette said:

The last time I saw any natural “spark” in Kim was back when she was with Reggie Bush, the only man I believe she genuinely loved and was physically and sexually attracted to. From what I’ve heard and read, even her infamous “performance” with RayJ was lackluster and consisted of her staring at the camera with what she must have thought passed for sensuality, and mechanically uttering cliché porn exclamations. Her bubbly reality show persona was created to fit the then-amusing KUWTK sitcom theme, but I believe that she was always a selfish, shallow and narcissistic person who lorded it over her sisters that she was “the pretty one” in the family. Her relationship and marriage to Kris Humphries was especially cynical and calculated because she could not stand that the plain sister, Khloe, had had the first spectacular televised wedding on the show, so she just had to find a groom, any groom, in order to outdo her. Dumping Kris H. and “upgrading” to Kanye was also a calculated move on her part because Kanye was wealthy and more importantly, could bring her even more exposure, camera time, social media chatter and an entry into the world of fashion that included coveted covers of Vogue and now Harpers plus invites to the Met Ball and other events formerly denied to her. Kim and Kanye knew what they were doing and are still reaping benefits in terms of publicity and attention that neither one of them could have achieved on their own.

I don’t see Kim as unhappy and grim in her photos; in fact, she always seems to have a self-satisfied smirk on her face to be in the limelight. I think she glories in Kanye’s rants and meltdowns because controversies bring coverage – attention -- her life blood and Kanye’s as well. There was no reason for her to post her recent article about the sad fate of her extended family’s pets except to create social media reaction, even though she knew it would be uniformly negative. The only time jealous, competitive Kim is seriously unhappy is when she is not the center of attention and particularly if any other female, even a family member, is getting that attention. She reminds me of the wicked stepmother in the “Snow White” fairy tale who is driven to an insane fury when her daily question of “Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest one of all?” does not bring back the expected answer of “You, of course, my dear.” Without Kanye she would have even less “spark” than now, because I don't think she has any soul and so would continue to look like the empty vessel that she is.

 Yep, there would definitely be naked selfies in every WH room, but sex? I sometimes think that these two boast a lot more about sex than actually having it; Kanye, because he wants to foster a macho stud image of himself and Kim, because she wants to be seen as the irresistible object of Kanye’s insane desires.

I believe 100% Kim was madly and passionately in love with Reggie. You could see it all over her face every time she looked at him. She was also broken hearted when it ended.  

I think she married Kanye because he could provide her with a lot of the things she wanted (more fame, the social status of being married etc) and he had been into her for a long time. I'm sure she has some affection for him but Reggie was her great love. 

Edited August 4, 2016 by Scarlett45

[BitterApple]

13 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

l'm sure she has some affection for him but Reggie was her great love. 

It must really grind Kim's gears that Reggie basically married her knock-off, complete with over inflated lips and silicone boobs. 

[lightbeam]

I'm convinced Kim sold her soul to the devil for fame and fortune. The minute she signed the contract, the light faded from her eyes.

[heatherchandler]

13 hours ago, lightbeam said:

I'm convinced Kim sold her soul to the devil for fame and fortune. The minute she signed the contract, the light faded from her eyes.

But when is the devil going to collect??  He needs to come and get them now.  

[qtpye]

On 8/4/2016 at 2:07 PM, GaT said:

Check out this video of her from when she was 13. Being famous was all she ever wanted.

I remember when this video came out.  The cool reserved image that she tries to portray is really not her personality.  Now the camera easily comes to her, buy if she ever lost the attention, she would be desperately jumping to get into the shot "rope a dope".  It was telling that Kris did nothing to tell her 13 year old to calm down, most mothers would have been a little embarrassed.

[GaT]

Since this is the third or fourth time we've seen it, I guess this really is her new thing now, wearing oversized shirts as dresses. I wonder whose idea it was, hers or Kanye's?

[DangerousMinds]

Because surely none of us have ever thought of doing that before? Except I'm sure most of us manage to look cute and casual, not scary and desperate.

[chocolatine]

All I can think about when looking at that picture is how much the shirt rides up when she has to sit, bend over, or reach for something on a high shelf.

ETA: also, how long does it take to get in and out of those boots.

Edited August 7, 2016 by chocolatine

[Coffeecup]

The boots are really digging into her thighs and knees. I can see the skin puffing out around the "fishnet" type straps. She must have red criss-cross marks all over the front of her legs when she takes those things off.

[ChocolateAddict]

Someone needs to remind Kim that she is a thirty-something mother of two.  Not an up-and-coming It girl who can get away with outfits like that.  

With her backside that "dress" probably rides up all the time and gives everyone a bit of an eyeful.  So Klassy. 

[Petunia13]

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[iwasish]

9 hours ago, GaT said:

Since this is the third or fourth time we've seen it, I guess this really is her new thing now, wearing oversized shirts as dresses. I wonder whose idea it was, hers or Kanye's?

Channeling Pocahontas with those braids! How many hours does it take to do that hairdo? And the flawless makeup? All time she could be spending with her kids.. 

 

The boots are a mess. There were pics of her having to literally hold them up while walking because they kept sliding down. They may work on in fashion photos but not for walking around.

9 hours ago, GaT said:

Since this is the third or fourth time we've seen it, I guess this really is her new thing now, wearing oversized shirts as dresses. I wonder whose idea it was, hers or Kanye's?

Channeling Pocahontas with those braids! How many hours does it take to do that hairdo? And the flawless makeup? All time she could be spending with her kids.. 

 

The boots are a mess. There were pics of her having to literally hold them up while walking because they kept sliding down. They may work on in fashion photos but not for walking around.

[DangerousMinds]

I assume they had be altered somehow to fit her short squat legs.

[Petunia13]

28 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I assume they had be altered somehow to fit her short squat legs.

Well they were originally knee high boots and those aren't actually laces but the seams straining. 

[iwasish]

Watching the Iceland trip, Kim never wanted to see Kanyes shoot. She wanted to take selfies in her bathing suit in the Blue Lagoon, and strolling around getting her picture taken.

if the video was so important she could have let Simon and Jonathan entertain Kourt, but Kim didn't want to miss out on the fun, standing on a cold glacier wasn't on her bucket list.

As a matter of fact, . Kourtney even said that the song he was making the video for was her favorite, I thought Kourtney was going to see the making of the video as part of her birthday celebration.

Kim knew all along she wouldn't get there in time. Her phone never left her hand, we are to believe Kanye never got in touch with her?

She blew him off, just like she did to Kris in Vail. And then makes big promises to make it up to him.

[Petunia13]

She did that to Reggie too. Sensing a pattern.  

[nkotb]

I firmly agree that Reggie was the love of Kim's life beyond a shadow of a doubt. Everything about her lit up when she saw him. In fairness, damn, he is way-past-hot. Honestly though, watching old episodes, even when she was with Hump, she had a ton more personality. Since that breakup, she has lost every ounce of her spark - I remember an episode when she saw Hump for the first time in a few weeks, and she jumped into his arms. That would never happen with Princess Kanye (that's not a dig at her post-baby weight at all, just that she's not that excited about Kanye, and he's not the kind of guy that would allow her to jump in his arms). Even when she looks at her kids, there is no semblance of spark there, just vapidness (it's a word, I said so). I also think she's getting worn-down having to defend the crazy that Kanye spouts. For all of her faults, she knows how to play the media to make herself look good, and he just starts beefs left & right. Their divorce will be epic. E.P.I.C.

I will never, ever, ever believe that Kimye is some great love story. No one can convince me that they have such a hot sex life, or that either of those precious babies were conceived the old-fashioned way, on a sink. I firmly believe that while good friends, their marriage is a business arrangement, and there is no sexy-times at all, with each other in the room. Kim wanted the stature of being Mrs. Kanye West, and all that it allowed her access to (Met ball, Vogue cover, Grammies, etc.), and she wanted pretty babies, and a man who would always be able to provide for them financially. Kanye wanted the world's hottest woman on his arm and to mother his children. Before all of her surgical-work, Kim was one of the most naturally-beautiful women in the world. Now, not so much. As awful as both of them are, those babies sure are pretty, and North seems so smart & well-adjusted. Poor little Saint will likely be the Rob to North's Kim, but hopefully they have great nannies.

[Scarlett45]

2 hours ago, nkotb said:

I firmly agree that Reggie was the love of Kim's life beyond a shadow of a doubt. Everything about her lit up when she saw him. In fairness, damn, he is way-past-hot. Honestly though, watching old episodes, even when she was with Hump, she had a ton more personality. Since that breakup, she has lost every ounce of her spark - I remember an episode when she saw Hump for the first time in a few weeks, and she jumped into his arms. That would never happen with Princess Kanye (that's not a dig at her post-baby weight at all, just that she's not that excited about Kanye, and he's not the kind of guy that would allow her to jump in his arms). Even when she looks at her kids, there is no semblance of spark there, just vapidness (it's a word, I said so). I also think she's getting worn-down having to defend the crazy that Kanye spouts. For all of her faults, she knows how to play the media to make herself look good, and he just starts beefs left & right. Their divorce will be epic. E.P.I.C.

I will never, ever, ever believe that Kimye is some great love story. No one can convince me that they have such a hot sex life, or that either of those precious babies were conceived the old-fashioned way, on a sink. I firmly believe that while good friends, their marriage is a business arrangement, and there is no sexy-times at all, with each other in the room. Kim wanted the stature of being Mrs. Kanye West, and all that it allowed her access to (Met ball, Vogue cover, Grammies, etc.), and she wanted pretty babies, and a man who would always be able to provide for them financially. Kanye wanted the world's hottest woman on his arm and to mother his children. Before all of her surgical-work, Kim was one of the most naturally-beautiful women in the world. Now, not so much. As awful as both of them are, those babies sure are pretty, and North seems so smart & well-adjusted. Poor little Saint will likely be the Rob to North's Kim, but hopefully they have great nannies.

I believe that their marriage is primarily a business arrangement, but Kanye had liked Kim for a LONG TIME. The "thrill of the hunt" is more exciting than the actual relationship, and for a man like Kanye, now that he "has his prize", there's no need to put forth so much effort. I do think their kids were probably conceived the old fashioned way, Kim is way to into herself to marry a guy who couldn't meet her sexual standards, and Kanye was willing to give her the status she wanted. Oddly they may stay married for a good long while (at least by Hollywood standards) because they want the same things out of the relationship. 

[nkotb]

That is completely true, Kanye liked Kim forever. I remember him kind of chasing her while she was with Reggie and she wouldn't give him the time of day. Maybe they do have a real, sexual relationship, but my assumption is that they sort of have an open-relationship, in that they are very discreet when they're both with others, & my guess is that they both have one main person on the side (& my guess is that both are dudes). I could be wrong, but I see no lovey-dovey looks, and little to no affection when they're together. My hubs & I have been married 5 years, and we have 2 small kids & no nannies for help, but as I was writing this, I was thinking that there's always some indication we're together, his hand on my back, something like that. I don't think I've ever seen any natural affection between Kim & Kanye, other than staged, raunchy pix, except maybe right after they first started dating. On the show, he's like one of her sisters, except that both Kim & Kanye look miserable all the time. Also, in my opinion, I think if he truly loved her & valued her as a sexual partner, he wouldn't want to bring up Ray J like he does in "Famous". Of course, neither were virgins when they got together, but for him to specifically discuss the man she made a sex-tape with is sort of disrespectful (that's probably not the right word, but sort of like bringing it to everyone's attention again). Plus, the lyric about Taylor owing him sex is just gross for any husband to say about another woman.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that this business arrangement was probably built to last for several more years. She's not ready up to give up that lifestyle yet, no matter how crazy his Twitter rants are.

[laurakaye]

Kim and Kanye, Kourtney and Scott, Rob and BC, Kris and Bruce, Kris and Corey (LOL), Khloe and Lamar...I would be hard-pressed to classify any of these relationships as the lovey-dovey, true "soul-mate" type of love.  The only family members I see as having a true, loving relationship are Brandon and Leah.  The rest are awkward, co-dependent, or business arrangements.

[iwasish]

18 minutes ago, nkotb said:

That is completely true, Kanye liked Kim forever. I remember him kind of chasing her while she was with Reggie and she wouldn't give him the time of day. Maybe they do have a real, sexual relationship, but my assumption is that they sort of have an open-relationship, in that they are very discreet when they're both with others, & my guess is that they both have one main person on the side (& my guess is that both are dudes). I could be wrong, but I see no lovey-dovey looks, and little to no affection when they're together. My hubs & I have been married 5 years, and we have 2 small kids & no nannies for help, but as I was writing this, I was thinking that there's always some indication we're together, his hand on my back, something like that. I don't think I've ever seen any natural affection between Kim & Kanye, other than staged, raunchy pix, except maybe right after they first started dating. On the show, he's like one of her sisters, except that both Kim & Kanye look miserable all the time. Also, in my opinion, I think if he truly loved her & valued her as a sexual partner, he wouldn't want to bring up Ray J like he does in "Famous". Of course, neither were virgins when they got together, but for him to specifically discuss the man she made a sex-tape with is sort of disrespectful (that's probably not the right word, but sort of like bringing it to everyone's attention again). Plus, the lyric about Taylor owing him sex is just gross for any husband to say about another woman.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that this business arrangement was probably built to last for several more years. She's not ready up to give up that lifestyle yet, no matter how crazy his Twitter rants are.

I think Kanye is starting to cause problems in the family. Kim didn't tell her mom to give Kanye a heads up about any deals she was making but to tell HER. This tells me she wants to approach him in the way that will cause the least ranting. 

I don't see anything wrong with her making the Puma deal with Kylie. Why should Kylie tie herself to a deal with him? This way she's ( if I understood the deal) not just modeling the shoes and clothing, she's working on design too. Kris had issues before with conflicting deals (Kendall with Cosmo), and had to do some fancy footwork to get her on the cover. Giving Kanye ANY control over one of her clients would be nuts. And Kris isn't giving up control of her newest biggest money maker.

Kim was embarrassed by Kanye and wants her mom to help keep him from flipping out again.

[DangerousMinds]

I think Kimmy is obsessed with lookin "sexy," but doesn't really like sex. See: her sex tape.

[iwasish]

15 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I think Kimmy is obsessed with lookin "sexy," but doesn't really like sex. See: her sex tape.

I so agree. I think she'll fuck Kanye on a sink or in a dressing room while people wait outside to finish her "glam", because it's stereotypically "sexy" not because she's so hot for him. 

[Jellybeans]

24 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I think Kimmy is obsessed with lookin "sexy," but doesn't really like sex. See: her sex tape.

I have never seen her sex tape so I will have to take your word for it lol.

[iwasish]

50 minutes ago, Jellybeans said:

I have never seen her sex tape so I will have to take your word for it lol.

It was boring. Lots of writhing and moaning. Ray J did his best..... But..

Let's just say she fucks as gracefully as she dances, but with less enthusiasm.

[lightbeam]

On August 5, 2016 at 9:05 AM, heatherchandler said:

But when is the devil going to collect??  He needs to come and get them now.  

Sadly, he gets more done through her right now. 

[Scarlett45]

5 hours ago, nkotb said:

That is completely true, Kanye liked Kim forever. I remember him kind of chasing her while she was with Reggie and she wouldn't give him the time of day. Maybe they do have a real, sexual relationship, but my assumption is that they sort of have an open-relationship, in that they are very discreet when they're both with others, & my guess is that they both have one main person on the side (& my guess is that both are dudes). I could be wrong, but I see no lovey-dovey looks, and little to no affection when they're together. My hubs & I have been married 5 years, and we have 2 small kids & no nannies for help, but as I was writing this, I was thinking that there's always some indication we're together, his hand on my back, something like that. I don't think I've ever seen any natural affection between Kim & Kanye, other than staged, raunchy pix, except maybe right after they first started dating. On the show, he's like one of her sisters, except that both Kim & Kanye look miserable all the time. Also, in my opinion, I think if he truly loved her & valued her as a sexual partner, he wouldn't want to bring up Ray J like he does in "Famous". Of course, neither were virgins when they got together, but for him to specifically discuss the man she made a sex-tape with is sort of disrespectful (that's probably not the right word, but sort of like bringing it to everyone's attention again). Plus, the lyric about Taylor owing him sex is just gross for any husband to say about another woman.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that this business arrangement was probably built to last for several more years. She's not ready up to give up that lifestyle yet, no matter how crazy his Twitter rants are.

I get what you're saying. I admit I'm not a physically demonstrative person, touch is my last "love language", so I don't put much in store with affection as perhaps most of the population. Given that's how I am I don't see the lack of what you described above as a lack of sexual attraction. But I acknowledge that I'm a weirdo. ?  

[nkotb]

12 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I get what you're saying. I admit I'm not a physically demonstrative person, touch is my last "love language", so I don't put much in store with affection as perhaps most of the population. Given that's how I am I don't see the lack of what you described above as a lack of sexual attraction. But I acknowledge that I'm a weirdo. ?

Not at all! I was actually thinking last night, I should've been more clear. I don't think Kourt is a physically-demonstrative person except with her kids, but there was always just something when she & Scott were together that made it obvious about their feelings for each other, maybe the way they looked at each other and the way they communicated, they were just a team. For all of their faults, I never doubted that Khloe & Lamar were crazy in love with each other. I know, he was a horrible husband, but at the beginning, especially, they were smitten with each other. Kris & Bruce were not so affectionate on any level, but we know what that was about. Kim truly was affectionate with the other men she was with, but the only affection I've seen between her & Kanye not in a staged photo shoot, is when they have North walking between them & they're holding her hands. They don't share glances, nothing. Plus, they both look miserable all of the time. I just can't imagine living like that.

I totally agree with the poster upthread, the most natural couple in that world is Leah & Brandon.