NFL Thread

[grommit2]

4 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Tom and Gisele are splitsville according to TMZ.   Settlement reached (I knew it wouldn't be messy, he does these things quietly).   Papers to be filed today.

https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/28/tom-brady-gisele-bundchen-divorce-florida/

No one ever says on their deathbed, I should have spent more time working.   Some day Tom will actually retire from football and want to be a part of his kids' lives.   And they will be all "oh sorry Dad, too busy for you, why don't you go watch some game film."   

"The cats in the cradle..."  Poignant song, eh?

[roamyn]

5 hours ago, merylinkid said:

No one ever says on their deathbed, I should have spent more time working.   Some day Tom will actually retire from football and want to be a part of his kids' lives.   And they will be all "oh sorry Dad, too busy for you, why don't you go watch some

Or they will just sing him "Cat's in the Cradle" on his deathbed & funeral.

1 hour ago, grommit2 said:

"The cats in the cradle..."  Poignant song, eh?

GMTA!

[Chit Chat]

7 hours ago, Carey said:

The fact is, I'll never count out a team with TB12 until they're actually out.  As mentioned, there are reasons, and Tom does get the benefit of the doubt.  It's just that Brady always seems to find a way. 

TB can't carry the team all by himself.  They've got too many injuries.  We have lost hope for this season.  We have seen this scenario play out time and time again with our Bucs, so we're used to it.  Good on TB if he can rally the team, but given the injuries, it's not looking good. 

As I've said before, I still think that TB & Giselle were having problems for a while and his retiring/unretiring was the final straw.  I'm sure they both have their own issues they bring to the marriage, so I'm not going to say it was one person's fault over the other.  Each person has to take accountability for their share of the issues.  

1 hour ago, roamyn said:

Or they will just sing him "Cat's in the Cradle" on his deathbed & funeral.

From what I've read, he does spend time with his kids.  I believe that he was at his son Jack's football game a couple of weekends ago (the weekend that he went to the wedding of Robert Kraft).  

[Lady Whistleup]

Hes very devoted to his son Jack. I know someone whose son goes to the same school as Jack who says that hes a very involved parent. Like teachers can call him for problems with Jack.

[chessiegal]

Does anyone know why Thursday Night Football exclusively on Prime also showed up on one of our ABC affiliates? Not sure if it was DC or Baltimore.

[mojoween]

I don’t know why I didn’t wonder this before, but WHY did Robert Kraft get married in the middle of the football season?

[ebk57]

2 hours ago, chessiegal said:

Does anyone know why Thursday Night Football exclusively on Prime also showed up on one of our ABC affiliates? Not sure if it was DC or Baltimore.

The games are still broadcast on free TV in the local market, so you probably got the Baltimore channel.  We have the DC channels, so we didn't have it on free TV.

[Bastet]

31 minutes ago, mojoween said:

I don’t know why I didn’t wonder this before, but WHY did Robert Kraft get married in the middle of the football season?

I read somewhere it's because that's the only weekend Elton John was available, and apparently it was more important to be able to say Elton John performed at their party than wait until the season half the guests participate in was done?  But that was just something a friend passed on to me, so I don't know if it's credible.

[voiceover]

21 hours ago, twoods said:

John Harbaugh is 60???

We’re the new 50, baby 😎

[Carey]

Here come my Week 8 picks.  This time, it's half picking the slated losers and half not.  Part of that reason is that there are several games where both teams within a game aren't very good (i.e. Broncos & Jaguars).  Nothing I decide is going to lead to perfection, but the predicting is worthwhile!

Predictions: Jacksonville, Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, Arizona, New Orleans, New York Jets, Philadelphia, Houston, Washington, San Francisco, New York Giants, Buffalo, Cleveland

I'll do my stuff ATS later for the London Game, the PA Game, the GOTW, SNF, and MNF

[Danielg342]

7 hours ago, ChitChat said:

TB can't carry the team all by himself.  They've got too many injuries.  We have lost hope for this season.  We have seen this scenario play out time and time again with our Bucs, so we're used to it.  Good on TB if he can rally the team, but given the injuries, it's not looking good. 

I suppose the good news- oddly enough- is that, despite being 3-5 and losers of four of their last five, the Bucs will exit Week 8 either tied for the lead in their division or one game back. It's highly conceivable that Tampa Bay wins the division like the Seattle Seahawks did 11 years ago with a sub-.500 record, if not doing so with 10 losses.

(Side note- if Tampa Bay wins the division at 7-10 or 6-11, that would be a small bit of irony given the Bucs have the longest stretch of losing ten games or more in a season)

I actually feel bad for you and other Bucs fans (my brother is one too, has been since the creamsicle days). The team has been an absolute joke for most of their history, save for the Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden years (and a short stint under John McKay).

Let's not forget, before Tom Brady, the Bucs hadn't been to the playoffs in 13 years.

With Brady in the fold, Tampa Bay was again relevant. It was always destined to be short given Brady's age, but I think Bucs fans were hoping for more than just two years of excellence and one Super Bowl. The latter may still happen, but, nonetheless, this season has been difficult.

My brother says the hardest part are all the memes that revel in the failures of Tampa and Brady. He laments that the Bucs are back to their losing ways but this time, that doesn't evoke sympathy. The Bucs- because of Brady, I imagine- get thrown into the mix of "hated" franchises like the Cowboys and the Steelers, which I'm not sure is all that fair. I get the Brady hate, but the Bucs haven't exactly been "world beaters" in the past or the present, so, to me, making fun of them feels like kicking a dog when it's down.

Maybe all that is just the emotions of the moment, which can be eased if the Buccaneers go on a playoff run and reach the Super Bowl in February, which, as said earlier, is still very possible.

Still, this idea that the Bucs are somehow mockable is intriguing to me. It, too, feels like acquiescing to the emotions of the moment, because from the moment that Tom Brady first put on that Tampa uniform it seemed like everyone thought the Bucs had been a winning franchise for most of their existence. The reality is far different, and watching a team that had been hopeless flirt with glory and then fall so rapidly, has been difficult to watch.

10 hours ago, ChitChat said:

As I've said before, I still think that TB & Giselle were having problems for a while and his retiring/unretiring was the final straw.

This is probably true. If the problem was, solely, Tom Brady wanting to play football again then I'm sure that Brady and Giselle Bundchen would just come to an agreement over how many years Brady will play for, because I doubt Brady would want to go for so long that Giselle couldn't wait it out.

There has to be deeper problems, stuff we're not privy to as the public. Perhaps- and this is me thinking off the top of my head here- Giselle isn't pleased that Brady signed the broadcasting deal, since that would also take him on the road during football season and, while it's less physically demanding, the time commitment would still be roughly the same. Maybe Giselle hoped that once Brady retires from football he'd take a year or two off before going to the booth, so maybe the prospect of Brady being away from his family for ten more years (at least) was really the straw that broke the camel's back.

[mojoween]

I never hated the Bucs, actually rooted for them against the Raiders.

Until…

[merylinkid]

12 hours ago, mojoween said:

I don’t know why I didn’t wonder this before, but WHY did Robert Kraft get married in the middle of the football season?

I seriously wondered that too.   Apparently Bobby Beatherd did that once upon a time too.   People we know when football season is.   Plan accordingly.  Even if it means not having Elton John at your wedding, or postponing to a time he is available later.

[DrSpaceman73]

I don't care on way or another about Tampa 

But his whole career brady has been pretty damn lucky snd blessed with a defense to help him. Stupid decisions by others, the tuck rule, other players bailing him out but it's always been brady is so great!  And he whines to refs when things don't go his way and doesn't get calls.  Him having to actual struggle and lose games like most every other player, including hall of fame qbs, for at least one season is fitting and enjoyable to me. 

[Chit Chat]

6 hours ago, Danielg342 said:

I actually feel bad for you and other Bucs fans (my brother is one too, has been since the creamsicle days). 

You summed up how we feel pretty well!  Mr. Chat has been a fan since they came into the league.  He liked the pirate logo!  Even though we've had more losing seasons than winning ones, we're not fair-weather fans.  We'll stick with them through thick and thin!  The difference is that before Brady, we'd record the games and if we lost, we just wouldn't watch it.  The Bucs could be ahead 48-0 going into the 4th quarter and still lose the game!  It's not worth the aggravation!  So, we're back to that once more.  Sigh.  

1 hour ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

But his whole career brady has been pretty damn lucky snd blessed with a defense to help him.

One thing that was smart of Brady in his career was to take a lesser salary in order to get quality players around him, especially on the O-line.  If you can keep your QB healthy, you have a better shot at the team being successful.  

There's still a slim chance they can pull themselves together, but if that doesn't happen, we'll say what we always say (and other losing teams say), maybe next year.  ;)

[Carey]

7 hours ago, Danielg342 said:

There has to be deeper problems, stuff we're not privy to as the public.

It's Gisele & AB's affair.  Not really, since the latter would not have to try to un-disclose that tidbit!

[roamyn]

21 hours ago, ChitChat said:

From what I've read, he does spend time with his kids.  I believe that he was at his son Jack's football game a couple of weekends ago (the weekend that he went to the wedding of Robert Kraft). 

Yeah I know.  I was just making a joke.

There was an article in Parents interviewing Bridget Monihan abt their co-parenting.  It really puts Giselle in a nice light, too.

[Chit Chat]

23 minutes ago, roamyn said:

There was an article in Parents interviewing Bridget Monihan abt their co-parenting.  It really puts Giselle in a nice light, too.

I think that they all made the best out of a challenging situation.  Not all parents & stepparents could handle it the way they did.  TB & Giselle's kids seemed to get along well with Jack, so I hope that they'll all be able to continue to see each other during school/holiday breaks.  

[xaxat]

The Kanye West owned agency Donda Sports, is facing scrutiny and losing athletes because of Kanye's recent behavior. 

The president of Donda Sports is Antonio Brown, which, given both men's history, simultaneously makes no sense and all of the sense in the world.

[Danielg342]

22 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

His whole career brady has been pretty damn lucky snd blessed with a defense to help him. Stupid decisions by others, the tuck rule, other players bailing him out but it's always been brady is so great!  And he whines to refs when things don't go his way and doesn't get calls.  Him having to actual struggle and lose games like most every other player, including hall of fame qbs, for at least one season is fitting and enjoyable to me. 

I get that. Tom Brady, like him or not, has that air of arrogance to him so I can get reveling in seeing that smug smile getting knocked off his face. Especially considering he's never faced the kind of adversity that he is facing now.

The thing about him being lucky though...on one hand, I can see it but on the other hand, winning usually does require a good bit of luck. I know it's been said that Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers only had a top tier defence maybe once or twice in their careers while Brady has, essentially, always had one, but I have to wonder if that's just simply because the New Orleans Saints and Green Bay Packers didn't do enough to help out their quarterbacks whereas the New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers did. I'm sure if you were to look at all the teams that won a Super Bowl- especially ones that had sustained success, like the '90s Cowboys team or the Steel Curtain- they'd be just like Brady and the Patriots in that they too have both a top tier offence and defence.

You're just not going to win a lot of games- let alone the championship- without a base competence on both sides of the ball.

Besides- as I brought up in the Eli Manning Hall of Fame discussion- there just may be too much importance placed on winning championships when viewing one's individual legacy because winning a championship is a team accomplishment. Brady, yes, does have a significant part to play in his team's success, but it's not the only part. The other 52 players on the team have to pull their weight too.

If Brady is overrated because he happened to be on a lot of winning teams, then maybe LeBron James is underrated because he was on a lot of teams where had to do all the lifting himself and that hurt his title opportunities. Perhaps Brady gets too much credit for his team's successes but I think he should still get the credit he deserves for the part he played in his team's successes.

21 hours ago, ChitChat said:

You summed up how we feel pretty well!  Mr. Chat has been a fan since they came into the league.  He liked the pirate logo!  Even though we've had more losing seasons than winning ones, we're not fair-weather fans.  We'll stick with them through thick and thin!  The difference is that before Brady, we'd record the games and if we lost, we just wouldn't watch it.  The Bucs could be ahead 48-0 going into the 4th quarter and still lose the game!  It's not worth the aggravation!  So, we're back to that once more.  Sigh.  

I'm glad I captured your sentiment so well, and good on you for sticking with the team through all the rough stuff. I too, actually like the pirate logo and wish the team would bring it back- hands down, I think it's the best logo in all of sports because of how detailed it is.

I suppose the Failures of Brady feels like yet another moment of horrible luck for one of the NFL's most snakebit franchises. Just when you have glory at your fingertips, all you get is a taste before it's yanked from you again. A bitter pill to swallow.

20 hours ago, Carey said:

It's Gisele & AB's affair.  Not really, since the latter would not have to try to un-disclose that tidbit!

Considering AB has a problem hiding, um, himself, if Antonio Brown was shacking with Giselle we'd know about it by now. Though I guess you never know...

[mojoween]

Wait.  So there is a game in London today, and it’s not even on regular teevee?

[Chit Chat]

1 hour ago, Danielg342 said:

I'm sure if you were to look at all the teams that won a Super Bowl- especially ones that had sustained success, like the '90s Cowboys team or the Steel Curtain- they'd be just like Brady and the Patriots in that they too have both a top tier offence and defence.

I used to dislike Brady, but I'll admit that it was because he and the Patriots were always winning!!  Sour grapes for one, please!  Once he came to Tampa Bay, I saw a different side to him.  Again, lowering your own salary so that you can have great players around you is a pretty smart move.   I think that some of the criticism of him is that he comes across as an a**hole because he demands so much from his teammates.  That's what a leader does.  I'm not saying that he should berate his teammates, but I think some of the sideline frustration is blown out of proportion.  

1 hour ago, Danielg342 said:

Just when you have glory at your fingertips, all you get is a taste before it's yanked from you again. A bitter pill to swallow.

There are several teams that have the kind of luck we do, so it's not so bad knowing that we're not the only ones who suck!  We relish the wins that much more! 

1 hour ago, Danielg342 said:

I suppose the Failures of Brady feels like yet another moment of horrible luck for one of the NFL's most snakebit franchises

The frustration for us is mainly with the injuries they keep racking up week by week.  

[Carey]

21 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Wait.  So there is a game in London today, and it’s not even on regular teevee?

I've never felt so happy over something I'd be mad about in the past.  The NFL really blew it with overrating the Denver Broncos in the off-season, which was a bad idea anyway regardless of Russell's arrival.

They've had, I think, nearly a dozen stand alone games, and we're not even at the midway point of the NFL season

[meowmommy]

11 minutes ago, Carey said:

I've never felt so happy over something I'd be mad about in the past.  The NFL really blew it with overrating the Denver Broncos in the off-season, which was a bad idea anyway regardless of Russell's arrival.

Me too, and here I am up at 6:30 MST, so I could have watched, but I don't much care.  When they start moving KC-Buffalo or something on that level to a London game on a subscription channel, then that would be a problem.  As it is, probably eleven or twelve people might be watching the Denver-Jax game right now.

Wasn't part of the reason Congress gave the NFL such a huge exemption from anti-trust laws was that viewing was pretty much always on free teevee?  IIRC, it was a big deal when MNF went to ESPN, which at least is part of virtually every cable and satellite package, but an even bigger deal when playoff games went there.  And now you have Spamazon and ESPN+ taking away games.  What happens when playoff games inevitably get moved to niche channels? 

As a Sunday Ticket subscriber, too, I'm supposed to get "every out of market" game.  That used to mean anything but games that were on the local channels, and now it means anything that isn't on free teevee somewhere else.

[Crs97]

Tom Brady has always struck me as “born on third base, thinks he was unfairly denied a home run.”

[mojoween]

22 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

As it is, probably eleven or twelve people might be watching the Denver-Jax game right now.

It me.  After powering up the PS4, going to ESPN+, trying two different passwords that were incorrect, going online and changing my password, then logging in to ESPN+ on the PS4, I am watching the game.

I have to say that sweet Disney cash makes for a better streaming experience on the PS4 than Bezos’s crapass Prime app.

[Carey]

Picks ATS, courtesy of FanDuel

Eagles over Steelers by 11.5
O/U 42.5
Eagles cover & over hits

Rams over Niners by 1
O/U 41.5
San Francisco Wins outright, under hits

Bills over Eagles 10.5
O/U 46.5
Bills cover, over hits

Bengals over Browns 3.5
O/U 45.5
Cleveland wins outright, under hits

Philly could be favored by 57.5 and I'd still pick them to cover.  Even if the roles were reversed where the Steelers were coming off of a bye and the Eagles had just traveled back from a night game the week before, the 2017 NFL Champs would still win.  I wonder if some of the Phillies contigent show up.  It'll be super ugly for the 2020 AFC North champs.  The best thing (outside of winning) would be for them to lose 2-0.  A loss of something like 18-20 is not beneficial.

As mentioned, despite a winless mark in Philadelphia for the Black & Gold over the past 57 years, it's irrelevant to this year.  The thing is there are certain places that are difficult for teams despite their record.  For Pittsburgh, it's Oakland and Philly.  For instance, 2016 is a fair example as the Steelers had double-digit wins in that season while the Eagles ended up being a dumpster fire.  2008 both teams make it to the conference title game with Pittsburgh winning out.  At the end of the day, when the Eagles win, it'll be because they're the better team, and not due to the mentioned schedule benefit or other past trends.  The Eagles are a great team; the Steelers are not.

If there is ever a game that Los Angeles can win to break the streak over San Francisco, this is the game.  Until they do it, I'll keep picking the Niners (too make up for the opposite in seasons past).

Similar to Pittsburgh, Green Bay gets to travel to a hostile environment against a team that didn't play the week before.  Similar to Pittsburgh, if they lose, it'll be because Buffalo is a great team and the Packers are not.  The Bills are the better team right now.

Similar to the LA/San Fran matchup, I'll pick Cincinnati to beat the Browns when it happens.  As mentioned, there is often a venue or a team that is a nightmare for someone.  One where they can't ever win, and a team that just has the number of the other

[Xeliou66]

Eagles up 7-0 on the Steelers, Hurts with a nice TD pass to Brown.

Cowboys up 14-0 on the Bears, looking dominant early.

Panthers up 3-0 on the Falcons.

Lions up 14-0 on the Dolphins.

Vikings up 7-3 on the Cards.

Jets up 3-0 on Pats

[meowmommy]

Delay of game on defense, Philly?  Really?  What a bonehead move that leads to a Pgh TD.

[Xeliou66]

3 TD completions from Hurts to AJ Brown today against the Steelers as the Eagles lead it 21-7.

Lions up 24-14 on the Dolphins in a surprising result so far.

Cowboys up 28-7 on the Bears. 

Panthers up 10-7 on the Falcons. Come on Falcons, let’s fucking get a win!!

[Xeliou66]

Falcons with a pick six just before halftime, Lorenzo Carter picks off PJ Walker and takes it to the house!! Falcons lead it 14-10 at halftime.

[DrSpaceman73]

4 hours ago, meowmommy said:

Me too, and here I am up at 6:30 MST, so I could have watched, but I don't much care.  When they start moving KC-Buffalo or something on that level to a London game on a subscription channel, then that would be a problem.  As it is, probably eleven or twelve people might be watching the Denver-Jax game right now.

Wasn't part of the reason Congress gave the NFL such a huge exemption from anti-trust laws was that viewing was pretty much always on free teevee?  IIRC, it was a big deal when MNF went to ESPN, which at least is part of virtually every cable and satellite package, but an even bigger deal when playoff games went there.  And now you have Spamazon and ESPN+ taking away games.  What happens when playoff games inevitably get moved to niche channels? 

As a Sunday Ticket subscriber, too, I'm supposed to get "every out of market" game.  That used to mean anything but games that were on the local channels, and now it means anything that isn't on free teevee somewhere else.

Sunday ticket does piss me off that way. And I hate I have to search around for a game rather than just clicking on the channel its on for Sunday ticket. I know the tv is supposed to search and find it and change but it never does. You have a Pay channel and 'sorry blacked out in your area'...OK f**** you nfl and directtv what's the difference what channel I watch on?  I paid lots of money for this.  Why do I have to search around for the game all over the directory??  

[Popples]

1 hour ago, meowmommy said:

Delay of game on defense, Philly?  Really?  What a bonehead move that leads to a Pgh TD.

That was the first touchdown the Steelers have scored in Philadelphia in 25 years. With Boswell not playing, I thought we'd be shutout.

[meowmommy]

25 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

And I hate I have to search around for a game rather than just clicking on the channel its on for Sunday ticket. I know the tv is supposed to search and find it and change but it never does.

I quit DirecTV when I moved in 2018 so I watch Sunday Ticket on the streaming app.  That means toggling between the app and the cable box on my Roku to get the games on the local CBS and Fox channels.  Annoying, to say the least.

I will say that either the technology or my internet connection has vastly improved since I started streaming games.  The quality used to be atrocious, and now, for the most part, I don't see any difference between games I get by streaming and those I see on cable.

Bears just scored.  I was afraid of a blowout in that game, but not happening so far.

[meowmommy]

16 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

Bears just scored.  I was afraid of a blowout in that game, but not happening so far.

Of course I spoke too soon.  The Bears are very Bearish today, as the Jets are very Jetsy and the Lions are Lionish.  <sigh>

[Bastet]

My parents had Sunday Ticket for one year, when they first signed up with DirecTV and it was free as an enticement to sign.  This was in the late '90s some time.  So I came over sometimes if the Giants game wasn't being shown here.  It just ... had all the games.  All listed in a row, and you just picked which one you wanted.  (It was cool, but they didn't keep it, because we got a lot of Giants games on network TV back then and they wouldn't use it a ton on their own.)  Fast forward to this season, when I was over at a friend's house for a day of football, and for the afternoon game we wanted to watch, they couldn't access it via Sunday Ticket, but had to do all sorts of shenanigans to get it going through something else.  I was stunned; I thought paying out the ass for Sunday Ticket meant what it used to -- you could watch any game.

[Xeliou66]

Eagles remain unbeaten with a dominant 35-13 win over the Steelers, Hurts with 285 yards and 4 TD passes. Eagles are a strong team all around and are having a great season.

Dolphins come back and beat the Lions, 31-27, Tua with one of the best games of his career.

Falcons up 31-28 on the Panthers, let’s get this win Falcons!!

[Xeliou66]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT TO HELL FALCONS, YOU ALLOW PJ FUCKING WALKER TO THROW A 60 YARD TD PASS AND ALLOW MOORE TO GET BEHIND YOUR DB’S?!!! GODDAMN IT. FUCK OUR WORTHLESS DOG SHIT DEFENSE. WE DO NOT DESERVE TO FUCKING WIN THIS GAME OR BE IN THE DIVISION LEAD. BEYOND FUCKING EMBARRASSING. FUCK THIS SHIT.

[Salacious Kitty]

No dog in the fight, so I can say the Falcons/Panthers game is insane! 

Sorry @Xeliou66, I didn't realize you were a Falcons fan. At least your team wasn't shut out by the shitty Saints. 🙄

Edited October 30, 2022 by Salacious Kitty

[Xeliou66]

XP MISSED!! Moore fucked up terribly there, game tied at 34, let’s fucking pull this out Falcons!!

[Salacious Kitty]

Carolina kicker shanks a short FG attempt. OT goes on...

[Xeliou66]

KOO WINS IT FOR THE FALCONS!!!! YES!!!! WHAT A FUCKING GAME, AMAZING THAT WE WON IT AFTER THE CHOKE AT THE END!! FALCONS LEAD THE FUCKING DIVISION!!

[mojoween]

Oh that kid for Carolina.  That is going to be a loooooong flight home.

[Perfect Xero]

[DrSpaceman73]

Carolina.  

Tie game on a hail Mary. Then dj Moore rips helmet off in celebration. Personal foul. 48 yard extra point and misses. 

Then kicker misses a chip shot in overtime to win.  Falcons win

Missed two kicks to win

[Xeliou66]

In the late games 

The Rams lead the Niners 14-10, big NFC West showdown.

The Commanders lead the Colts 7-3

Titans lead the Texans 7-3

Seahawks lead the Giants 10-7 in a battle of surprise teams.

[Calvada]

On 10/29/2022 at 2:56 AM, Danielg342 said:

I actually feel bad for you and other Bucs fans (my brother is one too, has been since the creamsicle days). The team has been an absolute joke for most of their history, save for the Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden years (and a short stint under John McKay).

Let's not forget, before Tom Brady, the Bucs hadn't been to the playoffs in 13 years.

Tell this to my nephew, whose head is imploding at the same rate as the Packers' season.  He was a 5 year old when Ron Wolf and Mike Holmgren made the Packers relevant in the NFL again, but he has no memory of years when the Packers were horrible.   I keep telling him it's the cycle of the NFL.  But he gets no comfort from that.  Perhaps by the time he's the age I am now, he will be more philosophical about the rise and fall of sports teams.  For now, like jangling the car keys in front of a baby, I try to distract him by pointing out how exciting it is to watch the Milwaukee Bucks.

[Court]

1 hour ago, Xeliou66 said:

XP MISSED!! Moore fucked up terribly there, game tied at 34, let’s fucking pull this out Falcons!!

Absolutely insane. We were lucky to get the win.

1 hour ago, mojoween said:

Oh that kid for Carolina.  That is going to be a loooooong flight home.

I'm happy he missed. But I feel bad for him because that missed extra point is on Moore. 

[roamyn]

40 minutes ago, Court said:

I'm happy he missed. But I feel bad for him because that missed extra point is on Moore.

Yeah if I was Wilkes, there’d be a suspension and fines coming.  You know better than to remove your helmet on the field!

[JTMacc99]

Thank goodness the Giants have their bye next week. Losing three more starters to injuries on offense last week has turned this offense from okay to ugh. Maybe a couple guys will get healthy. 

And maybe a new punt returner while they’re at it…