emmawoodhouse September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, ClassicShowsFan said: A PBS station in Minnesota just showed it recently as a matter of fact. Our local PBS station just showed it last Saturday. 😭 Link to comment
ClassicShowsFan September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said: Our local PBS station just showed it last Saturday. 😭 I just checked to see if our local PBS station is showing it, and it’s not. 😞 Link to comment
Lamb18 September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 16 hours ago, AimingforYoko said: So, the Chargers' team doctor punctured Tyrod Taylor's lung. The Chargers' doc is Dr. Nick? Also, everyone is having fun with Bill Belichick giving fewer fucks than usual: He looks like the guy in the commercial whose V-neck turned into a U-neck. 4 Link to comment
merylinkid September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 For those wanting to watch Brian's Song again -- it is streaming free on Pluto TV. It is also available to rent on Amazon Prime, Vudu, Youtube and Google Play. I will not be watching it. While I've seen clips of it often, I only watched it all the way through once. I'm still crying. 2 Link to comment
mojoween September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 I posted this on Facebook on 9/24/13 and for the life of me I cannot figure out who Ted is (the top part was my thought, the second is something I read somewhere, most likely Grantland). "Suck for Luck?" Funny. "Riggin' for Wiggins?" Not bad. But now it's gone TOO FAR... "Translation: Thanks to that trade, the Browns are officially in Drowney for Clowney AND Play Dead for Ted mode." Link to comment
xaxat September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, mojoween said: I cannot figure out who Ted Bridgewater? Same draft class as Clowney. Link to comment
mojoween September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, xaxat said: Bridgewater? Same draft class as Clowney. I wasn’t sure what class he was in because I did consider him. I didn’t think he was that highly regarded as a draft pick though! Link to comment
Moose135 September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said: Teddy Bruschi? No, he retired before that. He was drafted in 1996 in the third round. Bridgewater was a first round pick in the 2014 draft. Edited September 24, 2020 by Moose135 Link to comment
emmawoodhouse September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 My bad. I didn't notice the draft date info! Showing my age. 🙃 1 Link to comment
ClassicShowsFan September 25, 2020 Share September 25, 2020 New Orleans Saints legend Derland Moore dies at 68 https://www.neworleanssaints.com/news/new-orleans-saints-legend-derland-moore-dies-at-68 Link to comment
mojoween September 25, 2020 Share September 25, 2020 I missed an anniversary yesterday ... eight years since Fail Mary. 4 Link to comment
meowmommy September 25, 2020 Share September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, mojoween said: I missed an anniversary yesterday ... eight years since Fail Mary. Which probably would never have happened but for the officials lockout, and likely was the chief catalyst for ending it. 2 Link to comment
Popples September 25, 2020 Share September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, mojoween said: I missed an anniversary yesterday ... eight years since Fail Mary. It's been eight years already? Wow. Link to comment
mojoween September 25, 2020 Share September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, meowmommy said: Which probably would never have happened but for the officials lockout, and likely was the chief catalyst for ending it. I’m thinking it had to have been the number one catalyst. I mean, those officials are signaling TWO DIFFERENT CALLS. On Monday Night Football. In full view of god and sundry. 2 1 Link to comment
xaxat September 25, 2020 Share September 25, 2020 (edited) ESPN replayed the Fail Mary game earlier this year (when they were desperate for content). At first, I was wondering why they were airing it, and then realized it was that game. One thing I remember thinking when I watched it live was that that new kid at QB for the Seahawks didn't look that good. No wonder teams passed on him in the first couple rounds. 2 hours ago, mojoween said: I mean, those officials are signaling TWO DIFFERENT CALLS. And then they had to call the teams back to the field for the extra point! Packers' special teamers were running out of the tunnel and just randomly grabbing helmets off the equipment cart so they could get the thing over as quickly as possible. Edited September 25, 2020 by xaxat Link to comment
merylinkid September 26, 2020 Share September 26, 2020 20 hours ago, meowmommy said: Which probably would never have happened but for the officials lockout, and likely was the chief catalyst for ending it. Because the regular officials never blow a call? I mean everyone was screaming about that play and how the replacement refs blew it. But we just had a year of making PI reviewable because the regular refs blew that call so badly in the Saints' playoff game. 3 Link to comment
meowmommy September 26, 2020 Share September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, merylinkid said: Because the regular officials never blow a call? I mean everyone was screaming about that play and how the replacement refs blew it. But we just had a year of making PI reviewable because the regular refs blew that call so badly in the Saints' playoff game. Well, I'm not the one who made the decision to end the stalemate with the refs, but IIRC, this was basically the last straw, even for the cheapskate owners/league. There had been one crappy call after another in the first few weeks of the season and the Fail Mary, on national television, was a bridge too far. Although it was quite funny how fans cheered and applauded the regular refs when they came back...until the first blown call. Then they went back to being the usual hated zebras who were obviously in the tank for the other team. 4 Link to comment
Carey September 26, 2020 Share September 26, 2020 IIRC, the night before, New England fell victim to a bad call by the replacement refs. It was a foregone conclusion that the regular refs would be coming back. Those awful calls took away wins from two of the best QB's at the time in addition to the best coach in the sports history at the time (and currently, and maybe going forward!) Link to comment
Johannah September 26, 2020 Share September 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, Carey said: IIRC, the night before, New England fell victim to a bad call by the replacement refs. It was a foregone conclusion that the regular refs would be coming back. Those awful calls took away wins from two of the best QB's at the time in addition to the best coach in the sports history at the time (and currently, and maybe going forward!) Are you being sarcastic that they brought back the regular refs because favorites were affected? If you're being serious, then I have to say, that as frustrating as it is to have an untimely bad call, and, yes, I would complain, too, but you generally don't lose a game based on one referee call. Maybe it was the dropped pass, bad route run, missed tackle or wrong play call earlier in that same game. I think a bad call or bad gameplay at the end of a game are sometimes overblamed. The first 3 quarters have to have some impact on the game. Not that I wasn't totally pissed that Atlanta had apparently never heard of an onside kick. Link to comment
Carey September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, Johann said: Are you being sarcastic that they brought back the regular refs because favorites were affected? If you're being serious, then I have to say, that as frustrating as it is to have an untimely bad call, and, yes, I would complain, too, but you generally don't lose a game based on one referee call. Maybe it was the dropped pass, bad route run, missed tackle or wrong play call earlier in that same game. I think a bad call or bad gameplay at the end of a game are sometimes overblamed. The first 3 quarters have to have some impact on the game. Not that I wasn't totally pissed that Atlanta had apparently never heard of an onside kick. As much as I'm being sarcastic, I am serious. In other words, it's a combination of both. It could be a coincidence, but based on the past (and the future), I think it's fair for people to question the timing of some decisions. For example, they updated the rules protecting QBs whenever Brady went down Season 89, Week 1 (2008 season). It was rather unnecessary, but it was legal and fair enough at the time. Three seasons earlier, Carson Palmer suffered an even worse injury in a much, more meaningful game. That was also legal at the time, but if that happened today, it would've been much more blatant than what Pollard did with Kansas City against New England. Nothing changed in 2005-2006. To be fair, New England has struggled against Baltimore, a team that has been known to mess with other teams and fool them with several trick plays. As soon as New England did that at a much higher level against Baltimore a couple seasons after their demise in 2012, the NFL changed the rules at their expense. There is favoritism amongst teams in all sports, Johann. It isn't really blatant, but if it's borderline, or if the star of a league suffers, then that league will do anything it takes to prevent that from happening again. That being said, I do agree about the end of games and how a bad call is more of an excuse and less of a reason why a team losses a game they had won. In fact, I'm a bid time supporter of that. I've said in the past that teams need to blow out other teams (if not separate themselves) to secure victory. I have had backlash with that due to keeping things competitive for maximum interest, but it's no crime to win by (at least) twice the spread. Who wants to have a game come down to something unusual? Despite all of that, the end of that Green Bay & Seattle game was just not good. They would've changed it regardless. New England blew a two possession lead in 2012, but Seattle was actually dominating Rodgers and company. Both teams were playing great where it was anyone's game (not much offense). As for Atlanta? They might be playing for Trevor Lawrence, but it's a matter of when, not if, in terms of Danny Quinn's survival 2 Link to comment
Irlandesa September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Johann said: Are you being sarcastic that they brought back the regular refs because favorites were affected? It wasn't exactly that favorites* were affected, IMO, even though there is definitely favoritism in the game. And it wasn't because the refs didn't call OPI on Tate even though he clearly pushed off a GB defender. They never call that, especially not during a hail Mary attempt. And it wasn't because the refs made two different calls. That happens in a game. They usually defer to the ref with the best on field angle or whatever will get them a review. (So if it's between a TD and an incomplete, the tend to err on the TD sound to double check). Both calls would have gotten a booth review at that point. I think it's because it was a high profile game (that also happened to involve popular teams/players) and because they got the chance to review their call and doubled down. I think it would have been one thing if they made a bad call, like holding, but wouldn't be able to review it. It sucks. People would complain but it wouldn't have been famous eight years later. It's that they DID get a chance to review the play from multiple angles and still came to the same conclusion when very few people would put forth a good faith argument that it was Tate with possession. I think the only two people who have ever made that claim were the ref (who won't stop talking about it) and Golden Tate. Even Wilson was something like "well I trust my receiver and if he says he did.....etc." And yes, while I also agree that one bad call shouldn't be your excuse, the NFL also doesn't want to give the impression that the last second doesn't matter. Edited September 27, 2020 by Irlandesa 2 Link to comment
Johannah September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 41 minutes ago, Carey said: As much as I'm being sarcastic, I am serious. In other words, it's a combination of both. It could be a coincidence, but based on the past (and the future), I think it's fair for people to question the timing of some decisions. For example, they updated the rules protecting QBs whenever Brady went down Season 89, Week 1 (2008 season). It was rather unnecessary, but it was legal and fair enough at the time. Three seasons earlier, Carson Palmer suffered an even worse injury in a much, more meaningful game. That was also legal at the time, but if that happened today, it would've been much more blatant than what Pollard did with Kansas City against New England. Nothing changed in 2005-2006. To be fair, New England has struggled against Baltimore, a team that has been known to mess with other teams and fool them with several trick plays. As soon as New England did that at a much higher level against Baltimore a couple seasons after their demise in 2012, the NFL changed the rules at their expense. There is favoritism amongst teams in all sports, Johann. It isn't really blatant, but if it's borderline, or if the star of a league suffers, then that league will do anything it takes to prevent that from happening again. That being said, I do agree about the end of games and how a bad call is more of an excuse and less of a reason why a team losses a game they had won. In fact, I'm a bid time supporter of that. I've said in the past that teams need to blow out other teams (if not separate themselves) to secure victory. I have had backlash with that due to keeping things competitive for maximum interest, but it's no crime to win by (at least) twice the spread. Who wants to have a game come down to something unusual? Despite all of that, the end of that Green Bay & Seattle game was just not good. They would've changed it regardless. New England blew a two possession lead in 2012, but Seattle was actually dominating Rodgers and company. Both teams were playing great where it was anyone's game (not much offense). As for Atlanta? They might be playing for Trevor Lawrence, but it's a matter of when, not if, in terms of Danny Quinn's survival Thanks for responding. I agree that there are favorites when it comes to referees and rule changes. I wasn't clear. My issue was with blaming a loss on one call by a ref, which, I think makes us in agreement. Link to comment
mojoween September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 Oh my god I am so sick of the goddamn Bills. Yes, I know the Giants suck. But they are still my team, and I want to watch them for one goddamned Sunday. Fuck Buffalo and their stupid TV deal in the Syracuse area. And switching to DirectTV is not an option, but could I get Sunday Ticket anyway? Link to comment
merylinkid September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Irlandesa said: the NFL also doesn't want to give the impression that the last second doesn't matter. As a Cowboys fan -- boy oh boy, do those last seconds matter. I think it took a good hour for my heart to start beating last week. to me, bad calls are as much a part of the game as weather, injuries and the turf. You get what you get. You still gotta play the game. 4 Link to comment
Fukui San September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Carey said: For example, they updated the rules protecting QBs whenever Brady went down Season 89, Week 1 (2008 season). It was rather unnecessary, but it was legal and fair enough at the time. Three seasons earlier, Carson Palmer suffered an even worse injury in a much, more meaningful game. That was also legal at the time, but if that happened today, it would've been much more blatant than what Pollard did with Kansas City against New England. Nothing changed in 2005-2006 They changed the roughing the passer rules after both the Carson Palmer hit and the Tom Brady hit. 2006: Low hits on the quarterback are prohibited when a rushing defender has an opportunity to avoid such contact. “Preventing guys from being around your feet is a big one for longevity.” 2009: Clarified rule regarding low hits on passers: A defender cannot initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit the passer in the knee area or below, even if he is being contacted by another player. This is known as the “Brady rule,” because it was implemented after Brady was knocked out for the entire 2008 season by the play below: Link to comment
Magog September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 (edited) The Not Worth A Damn Falcons were up 16-3 on the Bears. Its now 16-10 at halftime. I wonder how those losers are going to choke this away like they did last week. Edited September 27, 2020 by Magog 2 Link to comment
Carey September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Magog said: The Not Worth A Damn Falcons were up 16-3 on the Bears. Its now 16-10 at halftime. I wonder how those losers are going to choke this away like they did last week. Looks like Buffalo might have taken care of a blown game. Really, the Bills could not have done it any better, maybe as a tribute to Atlanta! Link to comment
Bastet September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 By the time I got up, made my Bloody Mary, and turned on the TV, the Rams were down 28-3 to the Bills (I hate when one of my teams plays at 10:00 a.m.). That was such a fun comeback … right up until the Rams defense gave up the first down on 3rd and 22. Then the failure to take Allen down for a big loss? Thank goodness he was stupid enough to grab a face mask. Those final few minutes were rough on my blood pressure, especially that pass interference call. Fuck. But if you let yourself get down by 25 points, you set yourself up to lose. Now we've switched to Chicago at Atlanta, so we'll see if the Falcons blow another lead. Link to comment
mojoween September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 According to my Facebook feed, both Buffalo and LA were completely screwed by the refs and no one won. 3 Link to comment
Carey September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, Bastet said: Now we've switched to Chicago at Atlanta, so we'll see if the Falcons blow another lead. Just when I thought NFL Nation spoke too soon, so did I. Link to comment
DrSpaceman73 September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 No one blows a lead like the falcons. Two weeks in a row 1 1 Link to comment
emmawoodhouse September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 That was a spectacular fail. To the Bears (who wisely benched Trubisky) of all teams! Link to comment
AimingforYoko September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 They gotta fire Quinn, right? And how about them Vikings? 1 Link to comment
Silver Raven September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 Are the Giants so bad that they get crushed by a 49er team that's running on three wheels? 1 Link to comment
Bastet September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 Gee, I guess we know why Metcalf doesn't have the number one WR slot. What a stupid, stupid move! Link to comment
merylinkid September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, mojoween said: According to my Facebook feed, both Buffalo and LA were completely screwed by the refs and no one won. Glad you chimed in. After the Giants game, I was little concerned. Link to comment
Carey September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, Silver Raven said: Are the Giants so bad that they get crushed by a 49er team that's running on three wheels? To be fair, Barkley was not available, but to be fair to the Niners, they'd probably crush New York with Barkley. Similar to Washington, the Giants are rebuilding 1 Link to comment
mojoween September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, merylinkid said: Glad you chimed in. After the Giants game, I was little concerned. I couldn’t watch any of it so the pain was minimal. 1 Link to comment
meowmommy September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, Bastet said: Gee, I guess we know why Metcalf doesn't have the number one WR slot. What a stupid, stupid move! Very reminiscent of that time on a Monday night game where DeSean Jackson hotdogged it on the way to the end zone, flipping the ball behind him in celebration...except he hadn't crossed the goal line yet. Link to comment
xaxat September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, AimingforYoko said: They gotta fire Quinn, right? I don't know. I've still got Gace going first. Not sure they are going to let him on the plane back to NY after today's game. Link to comment
mojoween September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 Also, unlike another team I won’t mention, at least with the Giants, I go into every game with no hope. Link to comment
xaxat September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 The Colts' defense has outscored Jets' offense 16-7. 3 Link to comment
Silver Raven September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, xaxat said: The Colts' defense has outscored Jets' offense 16-7. How does a defense score 16 points? Link to comment
Silver Raven September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, xaxat said: Two pick sixes and a safety. That's 14. 1 Link to comment
Bastet September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 According to Ian Rapoport, the five coaches fined for not wearing masks correctly last week have appealed, and there will be a hearing later this week. I'm interested to hear on what grounds, since it's clearly not "I had my mask on consistently and properly" -- they're on camera quite decidedly failing to follow protocol. So I wonder if they're going to challenge the requirement itself (saying the communication equipment the league provides doesn't work adequately with masks, or that it's unnecessary given all the tests and isolation coming into the game, and players don't have to wear one)? 2 Link to comment
twoods September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 (edited) Yeah just take your medicine and pay your fine because there is video evidence you weren’t wearing your mask. Pete Carroll was the worst last week. Idiots. Im not a Jets fan but I feel really bad for how many injuries they have. No wonder their offense is terrible, and then their D gets tired. I wonder how many games they will win this year. Edited September 27, 2020 by twoods Link to comment
xaxat September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Silver Raven said: That's 14. I know kickers are considered offensive players, but I'm not going to give the offense cheap points for something they had nothing to do with. ETA Holy crap! Joe Montana, wife block attempted kidnapping of grandchild Edited September 27, 2020 by xaxat 1 Link to comment
Irlandesa September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, xaxat said: I know kickers are considered offensive players, but I'm not going to give the offense cheap points for something they had nothing to do with. Aren't they considered special teams? Special teams usually has players from both sides of the ball. But if we lump the extra point in with the offense total after a score, I think it's fair the extra point is credited to the defense after a score as well. No one talks about the offense scoring 18 unanswered points after 3 TDs in a row; they say 21 unanswered points. 4 Link to comment
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