S10.E13: Sex, Lies & Leeches

[Bebecat]

But Shannon did act very calmly and reasonably the first time Meghan approached her about the hoedown. To me, it just felt like Meghan was continually baiting her. How many times did Meghan need to pull aside Shannon aside at a public gathering to hash things out? Meghan was the one who talked about being offended by the phone call. Shannon definitely got reactive, but I didn't see her as being out-of-the-blue mean to meghan for no reason.

Imo,

Shannon tends to start a martyr act when she is approached in any way that does feel Zen to her. She can be a very delicate flower for being an OC native. Running away like she does is an odd reaction for a middle-aged, sophisticated woman. Meghan is the kind person it should be very easy for more mature women to handle, yet both Shannon and Icky reverted to childish behavior when faced with her nonsense. Says more about them than annoying Meghan to me.

[zoeysmom]

When Vicki asked for the apology, I am thinking where would Vicki get that idea. . . oh yeah Meghan asking Shannon for an apology.. . .Meghan should have realized she went too far with the old and bitter comment.  Although Meghan stands by her positions, it doesn't  make her a superior being, it just makes her closed minded. She states she does not care about Vicki's feelings and expects everyone to adopt a LeAnn vigil.  Most of these women have never met Leann, other than very superficially.  Meghan traveled with Vicki and works with Vicki and just doesn't get it. I don't think it is age with Meghan I think it is her personality.  She is just someone who forms attachments way too quickly and has taken grudge holding to a new level.  I don't know if it is a pattern that can be broken.  I recall a saying from the sixties-"don't trust anyone over 30."  Being 30 is not all that special. 

[FlyingEgret]

Jim is so over Meghan.  He's just biding his time.  He has the best of both worlds.  Lots of time away from Meghan, and babysitter for his daughter in SoCal.  When it's no longer convenient, he'll move on to wife #4.    I'm glad Vicki let them both have it. 

 

Totally agree - I was thinking he was just using Meghan while his daughter was in SoCal with her dying mother.  Now that Jimmy doesn't need her anymore she'll be out the door before they can get everything unpacked

[turbogirlnyc]

It was an oops and didn't bear repeating. She had never even met Shannon.

I see a pattern with Meghan she lays the groundwork and makes pretty outrageous claims, Shannon is upset over David and me at the Hoedown. Let me bring it up to her even though I have never met her. Let me claim that Shannon was rude on the telephone, although those sitting in the room who heard the phone call didn't agree, let me demand an apology at someone's party and then feign it was just a nightmare the way Shannon reacted. I think interrupting someone's conversation and demanding an apology is terribly rude behavior, of course I also found it amusing no one would get off the couch and let Meghan have a seat. Meghan throws out that she should have the same status as mom as a stepmother of four months, she complains about her slothful teenage stepdaughter and expects no one to comment (I have often wondered why if Vicki had said, "ooh you poor dear having to deal with all that and so young" if Meghan would have thought that prying and inappropriate.), her claiming Shannon pulled strings for Leann and Shannon correcting her saying, "no I made some phone calls." Another instance of Meghan trying to pit Shannon against someone.

Jim may be screaming (well tweeting), "editing, we are the victims of bad editing", but Meghan claims things such as demanding the apology she does all on her own. So over the next five episodes, we can see if all the pieces fit and we the viewers see that Brooks doesn't have cancer. If I were trying to pick a storyline it probably would not be on outing a person for claiming they had cancer and certainly not the only remaining original RH's boyfriend. Isn't there a saying in baseball about swinging for the fences? I think Meghan should have tried for a base hit. It just feels like she moved from one RH to the other with her pick-a-fight behavior.

So Jim is claiming bad editing after this episode? I wonder if he's reacting to negative comments about himself or Meghan? Maybe their marriage?

[Former Nun]

How many times did Meghan need to pull aside Shannon aside at a public gathering to hash things out?

 

 

As many times as the producers want her to (watch "Unreal").

[RedHawk]

I finally watched the end of the episode and the big fight between Vicki and Meghan. Geez, Meghan was so goading Vicki in a very immature, almost "playground" sort of manner that I haven't seen since I was age 12! So smug and sure of herself, even saying, "I'm right!" Well, so much of this drama is created for the show so what can I expect? Jimmy did come off as reasonable while talking to Vicki, and I loved that he said plainly, "I don't care." Meghan was stupid, and again, very mean-girl in her need to have her husband come over and "have her back" in an argument she was totally keeping going. 

[KLovestoShop]

I hated when Meghan flipped off Vicki just because she wore white.  That was just plain childish and mean.  And why was  Heather the only one not in a sex costume?  I know that Vicki's white dress wasn't technically a sex outfit, but it was sexy and see through, so it was a least more in a sex theme than Heather's red skirt and black top.  

 

It must be bad at Cut Fitness for them to have to make a commercial and have a sex party like they did.  To have dildos and other sex toys just screams desperation.

 

Why does Heather always back Meghan, no matter what?  I just can't figure that out.  It's not like they've been friends for years.  

 

Vicki needs to wake up and admit that she's not a size 4.  That white dress was at least two sizes too small.  But again, most of her clothes are two sizes too small.  

 

Jim is an absolute dickhead.  What an arrogant ass.  But like I said, when he played in Milwaukee, and we lived there too, he was a total and complete asshole.  We have a good friend who manages a place where the players like to hang out, and he said that JE was one of the worst players he's ever met.  A real hound dog with women.  I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.  

 

If Jim didn't want to be in the middle of things, why the hell did he agree to do this show?  The men of the Un-Real Housewives always get caught up in the stories.  

Edited September 4, 2015 by KLovestoShop

[The Mighty Peanut]

So Jim is claiming bad editing after this episode? I wonder if he's reacting to negative comments about himself or Meghan? Maybe their marriage?

He's retweeting Meghan's tweets lately, but yes, he's been crying editing in general.

Edited September 4, 2015 by The Mighty Peanut

[RedHawk]

Jim is a dork if he agreed for TWO of his wives to be on this show and never realized it was edited for maximum drama. Then again, I guess he just thought it was woman bidness and wouldn't much involve him. Welcome to your first season of Reality TV, Jim Edmonds!

[Former Nun]

Why does Heather always back Meghan, no matter what?  I just can't figure that out.

 

 

Maybe she sees things differently...like some of the posters on this forum.

Maybe she likes to give the "new guy" a break...like some of the posters on this forum.

[zenme]

She didn't give Shannon a break last year.

[WireWrap]

Maybe she sees things differently...like some of the posters on this forum.

Maybe she likes to give the "new guy" a break...like some of the posters on this forum.

I think Heather learned a hard lesson in the last 2 seasons and now tries to stay in the middle as much as possible. She has learned from her mistakes, which is more than I can say for the rest of these fools. LOL

 

She didn't give Shannon a break last year.

Heather and Shannon were getting along in the beginning until Tamra and Vicki started whispering in her ear last season about Heather. Shannon chose to believe Tamra/Vicki about Heather and Heather believed Tamra/Vicki about Shannon talking smack about her as well and the rest is now OC history. Remove Tamra/Vicki and I think Heather/Shannon would have had fun together without any problems. Follow all the fighting back and you will find Tamra and Vicki sitting with smug looks on their faces. JMO

[talula]

Maybe she sees things differently...like some of the posters on this forum.

Maybe she likes to give the "new guy" a break...like some of the posters on this forum.

A break just like Brandi had...and we know how that turned out.

In the event Brooks does not have cancer...who appointed Meghan judge, jury and executioner to imply that Vicki (who I don't care for) is a con-artist.

STFU Meghan!

Edited September 5, 2015 by talula

[turbogirlnyc]

A break just like Brandi had...and we know how that turned out.

In the event Brooks does not have cancer...who appointed Meghan judge, jury and executioner to imply that Vicki (who I don't care for) is a con-artist.

STFU Meghan!

Meghan's the most vocal but I'm sick of Tamra getting a pass for her role in this. Same old shit every. damn. season. Don't for one second think Tamra didn't feed the nonsense to her "spiritual advisor". Edited September 5, 2015 by turbogirlnyc

[talula]

I won't blame Heather for being friendly with Meghan cause I'd expect it of Mrs. Fancypants with leeches on her tummy! She and Terry were also Brooks' defenders in the past when most thought of him as nothing more than a grifter, lol.

[WireWrap]

Meghan's the most vocal but I'm sick of Tamra getting a pass for her role in this. Same old shit as every. damn. season. Don't for one second think Tamra didn't feed that nonsense to her "spiritual advisor".

LOL, Follow 95% of all the fighting back and you will find Tamra was/is the instigator with Vicki along side her much of the time.

[talula]

Meghan's the most vocal but I'm sick of Tamra getting a pass for her role. Same old shit as every. damn. season.

I hear ya turbogirlnyc! Tamrat is usually behind the scenes busy orchestrating something outlandish to win her orange each year. She has also claimed Meghan as her mini-me...Tamra would do anything for a story...even finding religion!

Edited September 5, 2015 by talula

[Raven1707]

Does Vicki do kind and thoughtful?

 

Uh, no. But thanks for the laugh!

[zoeysmom]

Maybe she sees things differently...like some of the posters on this forum.

Maybe she likes to give the "new guy" a break...like some of the posters on this forum.

I think you are being kind-I think she and Terry like sucking up to celebrities.  I have never gotten why she and Tamra are such kindred spirits.  I think Ms. Dubrow is dialing in her performance this year, she performed the producer's request she go on RH before Terry got his show and now that he has his show no need for her to perform.  I am not making this up terry has said the same on Brandi's show. 

[The Mighty Peanut]

Meghan's the most vocal but I'm sick of Tamra getting a pass for her role in this. Same old shit every. damn. season. Don't for one second think Tamra didn't feed the nonsense to her "spiritual advisor".

I concur so hard. She started the rumors with the psychic, she was thrilled when Vickie said the thing about Meghan and Jim's marriage, and I think she shaded Shannon's drinking when they were on vacation -- something about her being used to drinking straight vodka, or am I making that up? In any case, she's the pot, the stirrer, and the shit.

Edited September 5, 2015 by The Mighty Peanut

[Rainny]

And that I can get. I really can and then I would say so, along the lines of "Oh! I didn't even put it together! Of course. How can I help." I would not go all bug eyed in a TH, implying what sort of woman would do such a thing. While on speakerphone! With children present! As I have said, Shannon is just way to much of a delicate flower for me.

True. You're right, but then Meghan should also have said, "I'm sorry, I made a mistake and said my maiden name, I need your help with this charity if you don't mind". 

 

Anyway, this was one of those dumb things that the producers use to cause drama for the show in my opinion. Both of them could have handled it better. 

[PhilMarlowe2]

Heather and Shannon were getting along in the beginning until Tamra and Vicki started whispering in her ear last season about Heather. Shannon chose to believe Tamra/Vicki about Heather and Heather believed Tamra/Vicki about Shannon talking smack about her as well and the rest is now OC history. Remove Tamra/Vicki and I think Heather/Shannon would have had fun together without any problems.

 

Didn't things start going south between Shannon and Heather at Javier's when Heather tried to steal Shannon's chair and then tried to spin it like Shannon was the one freaking out about the chair? I don't think Vicki or Tamra had anything to do with that. Though, yes, I do agree Tamra definitely fanned a lot of those flames by playing both sides against each other throughout the season ("Pick a side," "Take down the Beadors," etc).

[Snarky McSnarky]

Jim is a dork if he agreed for TWO of his wives to be on this show and never realized it was edited for maximum drama. Then again, I guess he just thought it was woman bidness and wouldn't much involve him. Welcome to your first season of Reality TV, Jim Edmonds!

All of the people who complain about "bad editing" can easily resolve the indignities they suffer by simply walking away from the show.  But they return year after year.

[WireWrap]

Didn't things start going south between Shannon and Heather at Javier's when Heather tried to steal Shannon's chair and then tried to spin it like Shannon was the one freaking out about the chair? I don't think Vicki or Tamra had anything to do with that. Though, yes, I do agree Tamra definitely fanned a lot of those flames by playing both sides against each other throughout the season ("Pick a side," "Take down the Beadors," etc).

Shannon started questioning Heather at Tamra's Halloween party. She was upset that Heather did not tell her it was a "costume" party because Heather painted a third eye on her forehead to cover a pimple. Right after that, Tamra and Vicki warned Shannon that Heather was judgmental, competitive and a snob and Shannon started to question everything Heather has said to her, which laid the ground work for everything that happened after.

[zoeysmom]

Heather didn't have issues with Shannon until after Thanksgiving weekend.  Heather contend she felt left out of an invite to the USC/UCLA game when Shannon, David, Tamra, Eddie and Heather McDonald are her husband went and posed for pictures.  Because Heather McDonald and Shannon are USC alums she blamed Shannon not Tamra.  Heather claimed they were out of town for Thanksgiving and then said they flew back in the day of the game.  I can see why Heather was feeling left out-after all she dragged the hags to Hawaii and the next thing you know they are all about Shannon.  Things went downhill for Heather after Javier's when she lost ground with her "perceptions' of Shannon's behavior.  I felt like Heather just kept digging the hole deeper and deeper culminating in suggesting emergency helped be summoned for Shannon at Lizzie's party.  Needless to say, the finale dinner just nailed the coffin shut for she and Terry last season.  I will say because Heather is to RHOC  as Bethenny is to RHONYC she has done a pretty good job of trying to recover her previous popularity.  They gave her the Napa trip which was great and the luncheon.

[Former Nun]

Didn't things start going south between Shannon and Heather at Javier's when Heather tried to steal Shannon's chair and then tried to spin it like Shannon was the one freaking out about the chair?

 

 

"Tried to steal Shannon's chair"?  I didn't see it that way.  It's possible she sat down in a chair that appeared free.

[Rainny]

"Tried to steal Shannon's chair"?  I didn't see it that way.  It's possible she sat down in a chair that appeared free.

 

I thought what happened was Heather got to the restaurant, sat in a chair but got up to do something when Shannon got there and sat in that chair. Then, Shannon got up to use the ladies room and Heather took the seat back. Then Shannon came back and the argument ensued. 

[zoeysmom]

"Tried to steal Shannon's chair"?  I didn't see it that way.  It's possible she sat down in a chair that appeared free.

I think Heather felt being squeezed out of the good camera angles.  She was and got caught trying to sneak back in.  Heather is smart she wants to be right in the middle so she can feign shock, surprise, dismay or outrage.  Vicki asked Heather to move and she did Heather did not handle it well and tried to twist it into Shannon making her move.  It is pretty tacky to take someone's chair when they go to the bathroom.  Here is a refresher:   http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-9/videos/rhoc-season-9s-craziest-moments?clip=2781484

[Former Nun]

Sometimes I'd like to have my original chair back too--and I don't care about camera angles.  On me, there's no good angle.

I didn't see Heather blaming Shannon. Perhaps I remember the scene incorrectly, but my memory is the same as Rainny's...and now WE are fighting over a chair.

[PhilMarlowe2]

What happened was that Vicki asked Heather to move one chair down because she (Vicki) and Shannon were in the middle of a discussion, and Vicki wanted to sit across from her (Shannon). When Shannon went to the bathroom, Heather announced she was "taking [her] chair back," despite the fact that Vicki asked her to move one over. When Shannon came back from the bathroom, she told Heather she had been sitting there. Heather got into a huff about it, insisting she had been there first and was asked to move. It was weird because Heather was angry with Shannon even though it was Vicki who asked her to move. Shannon then offered the chair back  since Heather was clearly upset about it, and Heather played the "No, you have it if it's such a big deal to you" card, which was ridiculous, because the person making an issue out of it was Heather. The whole thing was ridiculous, but, IMO, Heather really was the driver of that particular conflict. It was particularly irksome because this was the first example of Heather trying to make Shannon seem crazy - in an interview, she said that Shannon's over-the-top reaction was "scary" to her. There was really nothing scary about it.

Edited September 5, 2015 by PhilMarlowe2

[Former Nun]

Heather really was the driver of that particular conflict

 

 

Maybe not.  If Shannon left the room, the conversation with Vicki was probably over.  Perhaps Heather didn't think it was a permanent move.  I feel as foolish even discussing it as any Real Housewife...all of whom are crazy.

[zoeysmom]

Maybe not.  If Shannon left the room, the conversation with Vicki was probably over.  Perhaps Heather didn't think it was a permanent move.  I feel as foolish even discussing it as any Real Housewife...all of whom are crazy.

The oddest thing of the whole scene was they hadn't ordered drinks.  A RH first.

Edited September 5, 2015 by zoeysmom

[tulip555]

I hated when Meghan flipped off Vicki just because she wore white.  That was just plain childish and mean.  And why was  Heather the only one not in a sex costume?  I know that Vicki's white dress wasn't technically a sex outfit, but it was sexy and see through, so it was a least more in a sex theme than Heather's red skirt and black top.  

 

It must be bad at Cut Fitness for them to have to make a commercial and have a sex party like they did.  To have dildos and other sex toys just screams desperation.

 

Why does Heather always back Meghan, no matter what?  I just can't figure that out.  It's not like they've been friends for years.  

 

Vicki needs to wake up and admit that she's not a size 4.  That white dress was at least two sizes too small.  But again, most of her clothes are two sizes too small.  

 

Jim is an absolute dickhead.  What an arrogant ass.  But like I said, when he played in Milwaukee, and we lived there too, he was a total and complete asshole.  We have a good friend who manages a place where the players like to hang out, and he said that JE was one of the worst players he's ever met.  A real hound dog with women.  I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.  

 

If Jim didn't want to be in the middle of things, why the hell did he agree to do this show?  The men of the Un-Real Housewives always get caught up in the stories.

[tulip555]

I hated when Meghan flipped off Vicki just because she wore white.  That was just plain childish and mean.  And why was  Heather the only one not in a sex costume?  I know that Vicki's white dress wasn't technically a sex outfit, but it was sexy and see through, so it was a least more in a sex theme than Heather's red skirt and black top.  

 

It must be bad at Cut Fitness for them to have to make a commercial and have a sex party like they did.  To have dildos and other sex toys just screams desperation.

 

Why does Heather always back Meghan, no matter what?  I just can't figure that out.  It's not like they've been friends for years.  

 

Vicki needs to wake up and admit that she's not a size 4.  That white dress was at least two sizes too small.  But again, most of her clothes are two sizes too small.  

 

Jim is an absolute dickhead.  What an arrogant ass.  But like I said, when he played in Milwaukee, and we lived there too, he was a total and complete asshole.  We have a good friend who manages a place where the players like to hang out, and he said that JE was one of the worst players he's ever met.  A real hound dog with women.  I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.  

 

If Jim didn't want to be in the middle of things, why the hell did he agree to do this show?  The men of the Un-Real Housewives always get caught up in the stories.

Imo, Vicki makes such a fool of herself in her selection of clothing....wonder why she can't see how she looks....me thinks Vicki is a tad delusional....in many areas of her life. I just wonder how long her relationship with Brooks will last.

[RedheadZombie]

Arguments can be made that both Shannon and Heather were at fault with the chair.  BUT, Heather clearly had an agenda in her TH, and it was to begin the "Shannon is crazy" storyline. And re-watching that clip - Heather has never looked uglier to me, than when she paused, dramatically pushed her lower jaw out, and called Shannon "scary".  It was the first episode I ever watched in this franchise, and Heather impressed me so negatively, I'm only now cutting her some slack.

 

ETA:  And damn, Shannon looked good in that clip - as skinny as Heather, but not drawn looking (like Heather).   I personally think that Heather's problems with Shannon are rooted in Shannon's wealth, connections, and a lifetime of upper class experience.  I think Heather's closeness to Tamra and Vicki are because Heather will always be the richest, most sophisticated, smartest, and the "classiest" in that threesome.

Edited September 5, 2015 by RedheadZombie

[KLovestoShop]

Tulip, according to an article in US about two weeks ago, they reported that Vicki and Brooks broke up a few weeks ago.

[walnutqueen]

What happened was that Vicki asked Heather to move one chair down because she (Vicki) and Shannon were in the middle of a discussion, and Vicki wanted to sit across from her (Shannon). When Shannon went to the bathroom, Heather announced she was "taking [her] chair back," despite the fact that Vicki asked her to move one over. When Shannon came back from the bathroom, she told Heather she had been sitting there. Heather got into a huff about it, insisting she had been there first and was asked to move. It was weird because Heather was angry with Shannon even though it was Vicki who asked her to move. Shannon then offered the chair back  since Heather was clearly upset about it, and Heather played the "No, you have it if it's such a big deal to you" card, which was ridiculous, because the person making an issue out of it was Heather. The whole thing was ridiculous, but, IMO, Heather really was the driver of that particular conflict. It was particularly irksome because this was the first example of Heather trying to make Shannon seem crazy - in an interview, she said that Shannon's over-the-top reaction was "scary" to her. There was really nothing scary about it.

 

 

Maybe not.  If Shannon left the room, the conversation with Vicki was probably over.  Perhaps Heather didn't think it was a permanent move.  I feel as foolish even discussing it as any Real Housewife...all of whom are crazy.

 

 

OMG - a CHAIR, a SEAT?  Seriously, who DOES this shit?  And who gives a shit?  Except for the cameras, or blindly drunk, what the fuckety fuck is all this aboot??  Reeeediculous.

[zoeysmom]

Arguments can be made that both Shannon and Heather were at fault with the chair.  BUT, Heather clearly had an agenda in her TH, and it was to begin the "Shannon is crazy" storyline. And re-watching that clip - Heather has never looked uglier to me, than when she paused, dramatically pushed her lower jaw out, and called Shannon "scary".  It was the first episode I ever watched in this franchise, and Heather impressed me so negatively, I'm only now cutting her some slack.

 

ETA:  And damn, Shannon looked good in that clip - as skinny as Heather, but not drawn looking (like Heather).   I personally think that Heather's problems with Shannon are rooted in Shannon's wealth, connections, and a lifetime of upper class experience.  I think Heather's closeness to Tamra and Vicki are because Heather will always be the richest, most sophisticated, smartest, and the "classiest" in that threesome.

The problem with Heather is she is never interesting-so shoving Shannon off to the side to hear some BS small talk between Heather, Tamra and Vicki.  Heather had zero issues with putting Shannon out of camera range.  Instead Heather should have been developing the other end of the table.

 

To me I think Heather was a little intimidated with Shannon's wealth and needed to have the bigger home and better view.  Terry's income is limited as a surgeon and TV personality but David as a freeway contractor possibilities are endless.  So although both Heather and Shannon have done the mansion thing it now comes down to who will take the next step and it what direction.  I picture Beadors going to Harbor Island and the Dubrows having to begrudgingly having to attend a party on the island at gasp. . .David and Shannon's.

[tulip555]

Tulip, according to an article in US about two weeks ago, they reported that Vicki and Brooks broke up a few weeks ago.

KLovestoShop....thank you much! I wonder how long that will last, ha ha

[WireWrap]

Imo, Vicki makes such a fool of herself in her selection of clothing....wonder why she can't see how she looks....me thinks Vicki is a tad delusional....in many areas of her life. I just wonder how long her relationship with Brooks will last.

They broke up again a few weeks ago. Vicki still has the lawsuit hanging over her and they broke up a few times directly before something related to the lawsuit was to happen. I fully expect to hear they are dating once again when this Vicki's Vodka lawsuit is finished for good. LOL

Arguments can be made that both Shannon and Heather were at fault with the chair.  BUT, Heather clearly had an agenda in her TH, and it was to begin the "Shannon is crazy" storyline. And re-watching that clip - Heather has never looked uglier to me, than when she paused, dramatically pushed her lower jaw out, and called Shannon "scary".  It was the first episode I ever watched in this franchise, and Heather impressed me so negatively, I'm only now cutting her some slack.

 

ETA:  And damn, Shannon looked good in that clip - as skinny as Heather, but not drawn looking (like Heather).   I personally think that Heather's problems with Shannon are rooted in Shannon's wealth, connections, and a lifetime of upper class experience.  I think Heather's closeness to Tamra and Vicki are because Heather will always be the richest, most sophisticated, smartest, and the "classiest" in that threesome.

IMO, the THs don't count because they are filmed way after the fact AND they are asked questions by a producer that we never hear. LOL

 

The problem with Heather is she is never interesting-so shoving Shannon off to the side to hear some BS small talk between Heather, Tamra and Vicki.  Heather had zero issues with putting Shannon out of camera range.  Instead Heather should have been developing the other end of the table.

 

To me I think Heather was a little intimidated with Shannon's wealth and needed to have the bigger home and better view.  Terry's income is limited as a surgeon and TV personality but David as a freeway contractor possibilities are endless.  So although both Heather and Shannon have done the mansion thing it now comes down to who will take the next step and it what direction.  I picture Beadors going to Harbor Island and the Dubrows having to begrudgingly having to attend a party on the island at gasp. . .David and Shannon's.

Heather and Terry bought the property and were already planning/designing their OTT house before Shannon joined the cast so Shannon was never her competition in that regard IMO.

[tulip555]

They broke up again a few weeks ago. Vicki still has the lawsuit hanging over her and they broke up a few times directly before something related to the lawsuit was to happen. I fully expect to hear they are dating once again when this Vicki's Vodka lawsuit is finished for good. LOL

IMO, the THs don't count because they are filmed way after the fact AND they are asked questions by a producer that we never hear. LOL

 

Heather and Terry bought the property and were already planning/designing their OTT house before Shannon joined the cast so Shannon was never her competition in that regard IMO.

Thanks, Wire ..... forgot about those lawsuits...good old Vicki; she certainly does lead an "exciting" life, ha

[Former Nun]

So although both Heather and Shannon have done the mansion thing it now comes down to who will take the next step and it what direction.

 

 

Maybe one of the couples will head to Divorce Country and the other will continue stepping down Nice Relationship Road..

Edited September 6, 2015 by Former Nun

[zoeysmom]

They broke up again a few weeks ago. Vicki still has the lawsuit hanging over her and they broke up a few times directly before something related to the lawsuit was to happen. I fully expect to hear they are dating once again when this Vicki's Vodka lawsuit is finished for good. LOL

IMO, the THs don't count because they are filmed way after the fact AND they are asked questions by a producer that we never hear. LOL

 

Heather and Terry bought the property and were already planning/designing their OTT house before Shannon joined the cast so Shannon was never her competition in that regard IMO.

There still was a little rub Heather was a bit snotty over the green thing and I don't care what questions were asked -Heather called Shannon's house a grandma's house. No way to make a new friend. They are using the same builder so there is a bit of a rub.

It is kind of like Heather's wardrobe the first two years exquisite. Last year didn't like the collars, this year too many short dresses. It doesn't mean next year she won't go back to my opinion of exquisite.  Terry will always have to be the biggest and the best even if it makes little sense.  It would not surprise me if Beadors or some new housewife comes along and has beachside home that Terry won't flip the house and build his dream down there.

[WireWrap]

There still was a little rub Heather was a bit snotty over the green thing and I don't care what questions were asked -Heather called Shannon's house a grandma's house. No way to make a new friend. They are using the same builder so there is a bit of a rub.

It is kind of like Heather's wardrobe the first two years exquisite. Last year didn't like the collars, this year too many short dresses. It doesn't mean next year she won't go back to my opinion of exquisite.  Terry will always have to be the biggest and the best even if it makes little sense.  It would not surprise me if Beadors or some new housewife comes along and has beachside home that Terry won't flip the house and build his dream down there.

But no one (HW) would not have known what Heather said until the season was done with filming. It's not like Shannon heard Heather say that during filming. LOL Also, what happened during filming before she did her THs would have influenced her opinions about Shannon and visa versa. My gut instinct says that had it not been for Vicki and Tamra in their ears, Shannon and Heather would have been friends last season.

 

IMO, it IS Terry that want's the OTT house, not Heather. I am not saying that she doesn't want a large, fancy house but I really think it doesn't matter as much to her as it does Terry, the same way I don't think Heather is into being a HW on the show as much as Terry is. IMO, Heather would much rather be playing bit parts on several sitcoms than doing this show and she does it because it is important to her husband. He is by far the biggest fameho of all the husbands on all of the HW shows and is even more so than a few HWs themselves. LOL

[Former Nun]

He is by far the biggest fameho of all the husbands on all of the HW shows

 

 

I enjoy Terry on this show and on Botched.  If he is fame-needy, maybe it's a carryover of his young years when his brother, the late Kevin Dubrow was a rock star (Quiet Riot).  He just wants to be in some area of showbiz.  I'm fine with it.

[breezy424]

Vicki was the one who asked Shannon to move over to talk to her.  When Shannon went to the ladies room, Heather took the chair back.  IMO, it was Heather who made a unnecessary big deal about it.  And IMO, it was because the chair was in the 'center' of the group as opposed to being at the far end.  Heather also went on and on about Shannon getting angry but I really didn't see that at all.

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-9/videos/rhoc-season-9s-craziest-moments?clip=2781484

[LibertarianSlut]

The dumbest thing I ever heard--and believe--about this Javier chair controversy is that Heather wanted to sit between Vicki and Shannon for aesthetic reasons. On one side of the table sat Lizzie, Tamra, Danielle aka brunette, blonde, brunette. On her side of the table, Heather wanted it to be Vicki, Heather, Shannon aka blonde, brunette, blonde. Shannon trading chairs with Heather ruined the symmetry damnit!

I believe this theory because it's Heather.

[Trooper York]

Wait a minute. I'm confused.

I thought Vicki was the one that had a leech attached to her?

[Former Nun]

I thought Vicki was the one that had a leech attached to her?

 

 

Oh, Shannon?  No, she's a suck UP not a suck-ER.

Edited September 6, 2015 by Former Nun

[Trooper York]

No Shannon is attached to a cold fish not a leech. Just sayn'