Past Plots Discussion: Whatever Happened To...

[Rafael]

8 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

All this would've been interesting compared to what we got but when JER came on I don't think he cared about Carly as much although I do agree she seemed to get preferential treatment.. I think this led to a Deidre Hall/Crystal Chappell feud at one point. I found it funny she returned right after Jarlena were written off the show.

Hold up? Crystal chapelle and deidre hall were feuding? 

[CanaryFan98]

13 hours ago, Rafael said:

Hold up? Crystal chapelle and deidre hall were feuding? 

This is an old article I found online talking about this it was from Star Magazine back in the day

Quote

 

IT'S WAR!  Deidre Hall and New Co-Star in Non-Stop Feud

Soap queen Deidre Hall and gorgeous co-star Crystal Chappell have
stunned Days of Our Lives colleagues with their poisonous rivalry- and
setsiders say the bickering is getting worse.

The warring beauties have declaired "Ths show ain't big enough for
both of us"

But execs, sick of the tensions gripping the set, hope the pair bury
the hatchet before bosses are forced to say who stays and who gets axed.

Blond Deidre, 45, has played Dr. Marlena Evans on and off for 17 years.
Dark-haired Crystal, 27, has been Dr. Carly Manning for just 3 years.

A source says: "Deidre and Crystal didn't get along from the start, but
things
are getting worse.  They're constantly having screaming matches.

"The other day, Crystal complained to the producers that she was sick of
wearing a doctors smock and wanted to wear glamourous gowns like Deidre"

"She said 'It's not fair that Deidre gets the best wardrobe.  She's older
and our audience would rather see me in sexy dresses rather than her'.

"Deidre overheard her and they started screaming at each other.  They
called each other names.  Eventually they calmed down and acted like they
were sorry, but every day it's something new".

The insider adds:  "They're very different people.  Deidre is easy-going
and relaxed.  Crystal is more uptight and serious.

"Deidre likes to kid around.  This bothers Crystal and she often says
'Excuse me, Deidre, but don't you think we should get some work done?'
Deidre trys to be undertanding.  But it happens so often that she finally
snapped 'Crystal, you need to chill out and learn to relax'"

The source says:  "Deidre recently announced she wouldn't wear the red
AIDS ribbon and said hte celebrities are sometimes forced to wear them.
This really upset Crystal.  She approached Deidre, and they started
screaming at each other."

"Deidre said, 'I'm entitled to my own opinions'.  But Crystal yelled
'You're entitled to them, but if you don't have anything intelligent
to say, you should keep them to yourself'".

"The two have even gotten jealous when they learn about each other's
storylines", reveals the insider.

"Although the producers realize these two women will never be best
friends, they've asked them to try their best to get along.  They
love both Deidre and Crystal and would hate to choose between them."

"Both are fine actresses and both are very popular with the sho's

 

 

[Irlandesa]

I mean, I can believe there might have been some tension but that from Star?  Sounds like fan fiction. 

[WendyCR72]

1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

I mean, I can believe there might have been some tension but that from Star?  Sounds like fan fiction. 

Could be. It is The Star. But egos run rife in the biz, so maybe the truth is somewhere in between.

[Pearson80]

1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

I mean, I can believe there might have been some tension but that from Star?  Sounds like fan fiction. 

I have to agree with you and I doubt the ladies would be screaming at each other in front of everybody...I do believe that the ladies did not care for one another. 

[CanaryFan98]

22 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Could be. It is The Star. But egos run rife in the biz, so maybe the truth is somewhere in between.

I remember in the past Crystal said they didn't get along which I can buy. I can buy DH not liking CC getting all the press and airtime back then when she returned but I also think they would professional.

[tribeca]

Marlena son and step son are both in love with women who tried to kill her.  Wonder what a good psychiatrist would say about that.    

[CanaryFan98]

Her daughter also married her rapist.

 

Belle is probably her most normal and loyal child in comparison.

[tribeca]

Belles the favorite. 

[DisneyBoy]

Nicole tried to kill Marlena? I know Kristen did, but Nicole didn't...did she?

[CanaryFan98]

9 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Nicole tried to kill Marlena? I know Kristen did, but Nicole didn't...did she?

Yes she did but I believe she tried to get someone else to do this while she was in prison.

I don't remember much of this storyline though.

[nilyank]

19 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Nicole tried to kill Marlena? I know Kristen did, but Nicole didn't...did she?

Nicole had "killed" Victor and wanted to frame his murder on Marlena who was arrested for "killing" all those people. In prison, Nicole contact someone that she had worked in porn industry with and she hired her to killed Marlena in prison before anyone found out what Nicole did to Victor.

[bannana]

5 hours ago, nilyank said:

Nicole had "killed" Victor and wanted to frame his murder on Marlena who was arrested for "killing" all those people. In prison, Nicole contact someone that she had worked in porn industry with and she hired her to killed Marlena in prison before anyone found out what Nicole did to Victor.

And this is the Saint that everyone has to bow to now. GMAFB. I am okay with Eric marrying her, good for both of them, but please do not push Nicole on us as this saintly wonderful person. Sami may be an idiot, but she is right on this count.

[Pearson80]

10 hours ago, bannana said:

And this is the Saint that everyone has to bow to now. GMAFB. I am okay with Eric marrying her, good for both of them, but please do not push Nicole on us as this saintly wonderful person. Sami may be an idiot, but she is right on this count.

Nicole also tried to infect Chloe with a flesh eating bacteria in order to get Brady away from her.  That is just sick and sociopathic, not only did she want to kill Chloe but she wanted her to suffer an agonizing death.  Nicole would have been a perfect candidate for a story  on the show about a female serial killer.  Female serial killers are rare but they do exist..

Edited August 17, 2020 by Pearson80

[Rafael]

On 8/16/2020 at 5:19 AM, tribeca said:

Marlena son and step son are both in love with women who tried to kill her.  Wonder what a good psychiatrist would say about that.    

I dont think anybody  knows about Nicole trying to get Marlena framed and killed.It will only be Jan Spears and Crystal Galore who know about this.

Its like Nicole's main hidden  dark secret .

Edited August 18, 2020 by Rafael

[Rafael]

If Jan Spears was to return ,I can see her revealing this bit of info causing Brady and Eric to despise her and Eric divorcing her .  

[methodwriter85]

Didn't Phil in Jay's second turn as him go cuckoo for coca puffs when Belle left him for Shawn?

[DaphneCat]

13 minutes ago, methodwriter85 said:

Didn't Phil in Jay's second turn as him go cuckoo for coca puffs when Belle left him for Shawn?

Yes.  And even though he gave away his own child, he tried to kidnap Claire when she was a baby.  Speaking of, you'll notice no one references the fact that Claire had a liver transplant.  Guess they forgot about that along with Phillip's amputated leg, his face transplant, and Brady's and Jennifer's heart transplant scars.  I'm STILL baffled as to how Jack is walking around without any of his internal organs.

[scarynikki12]

37 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

If the show would just close the chapter on the DiMeras and move on,

Stefano's death should have brought the end of the DiMera family and empire. Since Roman didn't get to kill him he should have been allowed to take down the empire. A lengthy story tracking his investigation and seeing henchmen and various DiMeras becoming informants to save themselves would have been interesting. So, naturally, they continued bringing on the latest of Stefano's endless surprise children and no one seems to care about taking down the empire anymore.

[DisneyBoy]

On 8/16/2020 at 9:10 PM, nilyank said:

Nicole had "killed" Victor and wanted to frame his murder on Marlena who was arrested for "killing" all those people. In prison, Nicole contact someone that she had worked in porn industry with and she hired her to killed Marlena in prison before anyone found out what Nicole did to Victor.

Woah...um, yipes. Adds a whole new level of awkward to that scene where Nicole hoped Mar would bless her union with Eric....

[Rafael]

On 8/24/2020 at 7:18 AM, scarynikki12 said:

Stefano's death should have brought the end of the DiMera family and empire. Since Roman didn't get to kill him he should have been allowed to take down the empire. A lengthy story tracking his investigation and seeing henchmen and various DiMeras becoming informants to save themselves would have been interesting. So, naturally, they continued bringing on the latest of Stefano's endless surprise children and no one seems to care about taking down the empire anymore.

I kinda agree with you . The only diMeras that should have been left are Chad ,Peter and Tony . I am also in favour of the legitimate DiMera empire going through the decline with Tony ,Chad and Peter fighting to save the DiMera legacy and barely managing to do so. 

Their decline  should be coinciding with the rise of the Alamain Empire under Nicholas Alamain's leadership   .

At this point the DiMeras are clowns and the dynasty has been dilluted with the forced additions of Stefan and Jake- additions this clan didnt need.

I would have preferred resurrecting Renee DuMonde and Megan Hethaway rather than having Jake and Stefan forced into the DiMera fold. 

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by Rafael

[tribeca]

I remember reading here once that Nicole had a one night stand with Roman.  I hope that’s not true. 

Edited August 25, 2020 by tribeca

[boes]

1 hour ago, tribeca said:

I remember reading here once that Nicole had a one night stand with Roman.  I hope that’s not true. 

I bet Roman feels the exact same way.

[nilyank]

1 hour ago, tribeca said:

I remember reading here once that Nicole had a one night stand with Roman.  I hope that’s not true. 

True. When Nicole first left Salem years ago on her last night, she showed up at Roman's room with some champagne and the implication was they slept together.

[bannana]

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

True. When Nicole first left Salem years ago on her last night, she showed up at Roman's room with some champagne and the implication was they slept together.

You know, I think I remember this now.  She slept with her husband's father, and tried to kill/frame her husband's mother?!

[Rafael]

On 8/25/2020 at 8:17 PM, tribeca said:

I remember reading here once that Nicole had a one night stand with Roman.  I hope that’s not true. 

It did happen. Roman and Kate's divorce got finalised and so was Nicole and Victor's divorce  . So they ran into each other at Maggie's restaurant and drank martinis and they both supposedly went their seperate ways until Nicole showed up at roman's house wearing provocative  red dress and Roman welcomed her in and closed the door and that was it for Nicole.

That was The last time we saw her until she returned to Salem back in 2008. 

Edited August 27, 2020 by Rafael

[howmanywords]

Hope mentioning Zack's death today made remember how heartbreaking that story was. I wanted to see if there were clips online and sure enough..here is the scene where Bo, Hope and Shawn find out he passed away. 14 years later that scream Hope lets out still gives me chills and makes me sob

 

[Silver Raven]

6 minutes ago, howmanywords said:

Hope mentioning Zack's death today made remember how heartbreaking that story was. I wanted to see if there were clips online and sure enough..here is the scene where Bo, Hope and Shawn find out he passed away. 14 years later that scream Hope lets out still gives me chills and makes me sob

 

Kristian cried for over a week in that storyline.  I've always felt she must have been sick and exhausted when it ended.

 

[Rafael]

Nicole's handiwork . Look at chloe's face. 

 

And ofcourse there is a pic of Nicole disguised as a nurse in order to sabotage Chloe's facial reconstruction surgery. 

Edited August 30, 2020 by Rafael

[Rafael]

Whatever happened to Thomas Edward Kramer (TEK) ? 

Did they ever confirm that He actually died when the car he and Lexie  were riding was rammed off the road ? We know that lexie returned a couple of months later after being kidnapped by Andre DiMera but they never told us whether or not TEK survived the car crash. ...

[Rafael]

Do you guys recall this steamy hot number ? when Kate and "Tony" stole the show at Maggie's restaurant by doing  the tango . Ofcourse Kate wanted to make Roman jealous. But afterwards the following morning , they showed Kate exiting the mansion . Did she and "Tony" engage in a one night stand ? 

[Rafael]

Is Jo Johnson -Scofield still alive ? Is her husband Vern Scofield also still alive  ?

Edited September 12, 2020 by Rafael

[CanaryFan98]

Jo is alive off screen she's been referenced.

Vern they never said either way but the actor died in 2008.

[Rafael]

Whatever Happened To Lynne Burke ? the nurse who gave sami that atrocious idea to rape Austin by drugging him. infact ,she even blackmailed sami after she had just become pregnant with Will . she was later hired by Kate to look after Victor after he was struck down by stroke. later on ,she secretly worked for Stefano while she was hired to be Laura Horton's private nurse. 

whatever happened to her ?

[Pearson80]

On 9/12/2020 at 1:13 PM, CanaryFan98 said:

Jo is alive off screen she's been referenced.

Vern they never said either way but the actor died in 2008.

Jo should have been recast with a strong veteran soap actress in 2006 when Steve and Jack both came back from the dead..  I think she would have been a grounding force for the Johnson/Devereaux/Kiriakis clan... Perhaps, it would have prevented the show from killing off Jack over the years.. 

Edited September 13, 2020 by Pearson80

[WendyCR72]

7 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

Jo should have been recast with a strong veteran soap actress in 2006 when Steve and Jack both came back from the dead..  I think she would have been a grounding force for the Johnson/Devereaux/Kiriakis clan... Perhaps, it would have prevented the show from killing off Jack over the years.. 

Disagree here. I personally think Jo should have never been recast with Marilyn McIntyre. She was a decent actress, but Joy Garrett's sort of sad gravitas could not be duplicated, and she played Jo's tragic past with a great balance of strength and sadness. With McIntyre, she just became Average Soap Mother #230, IMO.

When Joy Garrett died, so too should have Jo. And I would have loved to see the reactions from all three Johnson kids, but especially Jack, since he spent so much time denying her of a relationship. (Though he did help her when she went after Lawrence for "killing" Steve.)

As an aside, Garrett was only six years older than Stephen Nichols who, of course, played her eldest son. Sad to see she only lived to 47.  😞

As I recall, she died suddenly the night of that year's Soap Opera Digest Awards (remember those?) and Matt Ashford won for something, and he was almost in tears telling about her death and thanking her.

[Pearson80]

1 hour ago, WendyCR72 said:

Disagree here. I personally think Jo should have never been recast with Marilyn McIntyre. She was a decent actress, but Joy Garrett's sort of sad gravitas could not be duplicated, and she played Jo's tragic past with a great balance of strength and sadness. With McIntyre, she just became Average Soap Mother #230, IMO.

When Joy Garrett died, so too should have Jo. And I would have loved to see the reactions from all three Johnson kids, but especially Jack, since he spent so much time denying her of a relationship. (Though he did help her when she went after Lawrence for "killing" Steve.)

As an aside, Garrett was only six years older than Stephen Nichols who, of course, played her eldest son. Sad to see she only lived to 47.  😞

As I recall, she died suddenly the night of that year's Soap Opera Digest Awards (remember those?) and Matt Ashford won for something, and he was almost in tears telling about her death and thanking her.

That would have been cool to see with Jo dying after reuniting her family. It would have added an additional layer of sadness to Jo's journey in life.

The actress who played Jo died because her liver was compromised for years due to her alcoholism. She had been an alcoholic just like her character Jo.. 

[CanaryFan98]

14 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Disagree here. I personally think Jo should have never been recast with Marilyn McIntyre. She was a decent actress, but Joy Garrett's sort of sad gravitas could not be duplicated, and she played Jo's tragic past with a great balance of strength and sadness. With McIntyre, she just became Average Soap Mother #230, IMO.

When Joy Garrett died, so too should have Jo. And I would have loved to see the reactions from all three Johnson kids, but especially Jack, since he spent so much time denying her of a relationship. (Though he did help her when she went after Lawrence for "killing" Steve.)

As an aside, Garrett was only six years older than Stephen Nichols who, of course, played her eldest son. Sad to see she only lived to 47.  😞

As I recall, she died suddenly the night of that year's Soap Opera Digest Awards (remember those?) and Matt Ashford won for something, and he was almost in tears telling about her death and thanking her.

I remember she died of liver failure.

[bannana]

On 8/30/2020 at 3:00 AM, Rafael said:

Nicole's handiwork . Look at chloe's face. 

 

And ofcourse there is a pic of Nicole disguised as a nurse in order to sabotage Chloe's facial reconstruction surgery. 

And Chloe and Nicole became besties after this how?

[nilyank]

10 minutes ago, bannana said:

And Chloe and Nicole became besties after this how?

Because they both hated Sami and got involved with Lucas and EJ.

[CanaryFan98]

The actresses are BFFs in RL and it spilled on screen despite how unrealistic even by soap standards this was.

[Rafael]

22 hours ago, nilyank said:

Because they both hated Sami and got involved with Lucas and EJ.

It was absolutely laughable. Lucas and Chloe I mean. Rubbish pairing randomly thrown together even though I still think Lucas should have hooked up with Nicole in the elevator .

Yeah ,Sami despised Chloe that time for allegedly getting Brady hooked on drugs . 

[Rafael]

On 9/13/2020 at 10:06 PM, Pearson80 said:

Jo should have been recast with a strong veteran soap actress in 2006 when Steve and Jack both came back from the dead..  I think she would have been a grounding force for the Johnson/Devereaux/Kiriakis clan... Perhaps, it would have prevented the show from killing off Jack over the years.. 

In addition to Jo ,TIIC should have brought back Lawrence Alamain that same period as well to explain why he switch/stole Steve's body instead of finishing him off. 

[JaneDigby]

The Steve and Kayla reunion inspired me to rewatch classic S&K. Now I'm in the horror zone: the Marina Toscano story. The awfulness is more epic than I remembered. Hunter Tylo is an odd actress in any role and in the poorly written role she's a train wreck. The story arc makes no sense but the daily dialogue is painful. Who thought having Steve complain about "that damn Marina" every episode was a good idea? Every time he says it I think he's complaining about high mooring fees and less-than-fresh nightcrawlers at the baitshop.  

I do have a question. Did the show ever bother to fill in the copious plot holes? Did Steve ever explain why he married Marina? What was Marina trying to achieve in the first round of "Find the Key"? Why can't anyone just pick the damn lock? No, seriously, did Steve ever explain any of this to Kayla? 

The Shane & Kim story at that time was bad too but the plotholes weren't axle breakers, at least.

[WendyCR72]

15 hours ago, JaneDigby said:

The Steve and Kayla reunion inspired me to rewatch classic S&K. Now I'm in the horror zone: the Marina Toscano story. The awfulness is more epic than I remembered. Hunter Tylo is an odd actress in any role and in the poorly written role she's a train wreck. The story arc makes no sense but the daily dialogue is painful. Who thought having Steve complain about "that damn Marina" every episode was a good idea? Every time he says it I think he's complaining about high mooring fees and less-than-fresh nightcrawlers at the baitshop.  

As I said, the only good thing about Marina was the introduction of her sister, Isabella, and her subsequent friendship with Jack and romance with RoJohn.

[FnkyChkn34]

I have a "whatever happened to..." question:

Whatever happened to all the nice old sets?  Does anyone still live in the Horton House, with the living room and entryway?  That was an iconic set, and I haven't seen it in many months!  Bo and Hope's house was a great living room, and they used to even have a kitchen.  Why does Hope now have only a closet-sized den?  What happened to that loft apartment where all the annoying college kids lived (Ciara, Claire, Tripp, etc.) and why doesn't anyone still live there?  And why does everyone just live at the Salem Inn????

Sorry, I guess that turned into a mini-rant.  But seriously... whatever happened to the nice, spacious sets?   

[JaneDigby]

16 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

As I said, the only good thing about Marina was the introduction of her sister, Isabella, and her subsequent friendship with Jack and romance with RoJohn.

I had to go back and re-watch some of this crap again to try to figure out what the point of this all was. So everybody was obsessed with stealing a key yet no one had any clue what that key opened. Yep, Jack had to side-eye Isabella on that one. The plot was beyond dumb and the idea that it took a full year to tie it all up is just beyond me. I liked Isabella but did anyone need a full year of "the key, the key, the key" and "the diary, the diary, the diary"? 

I'll wager the behind the scenes on this was way more interesting but, then, the bill from my dry cleaners is more interesting. I shouldn't be surprised that the same geniuses who thought the audience was eager see Shane go camping the Appalachians and wanted to see Emilio dance thought having a story in which not a single person ever answers a direct question with an equally direct answer equaled mystery.  Hunter Tylo was beautiful but I'm here to tell you she delivered "Steve, I need you" and "Steve, you still love me" exactly the same way she delivered "Caroline, you have leukemia" on B&B a year later. Not a ton of range there. I've seen Stephen Nichols create vastly different characters and demonstrate a sexual spark with pretty much anyone who enters the same zipcode so why Steve always looked at Marina with the same annoyance and weary incomprehension I'd expact him to summon up for someone who dinged his car and refused to hand over their insurance info is beyond me. Even the flashbacks look like a restraining order was on the books. This story did not need to be this inept. They didn't even let us enjoy Marina's death.

If you want a laugh, look at the episodes when MBE was on sick leave and SN had to open the show to explain that, no, MBE didn't win the coin toss allowing her to stay home while he hauled this crapfest uphill. It's hilarious because you know he wants to say "I know this story sucks but I have to memorize this crap, you just have to watch it once."

[Pearson80]

1 hour ago, JaneDigby said:

I had to go back and re-watch some of this crap again to try to figure out what the point of this all was. So everybody was obsessed with stealing a key yet no one had any clue what that key opened. Yep, Jack had to side-eye Isabella on that one. The plot was beyond dumb and the idea that it took a full year to tie it all up is just beyond me. I liked Isabella but did anyone need a full year of "the key, the key, the key" and "the diary, the diary, the diary"? 

I'll wager the behind the scenes on this was way more interesting but, then, the bill from my dry cleaners is more interesting. I shouldn't be surprised that the same geniuses who thought the audience was eager see Shane go camping the Appalachians and wanted to see Emilio dance thought having a story in which not a single person ever answers a direct question with an equally direct answer equaled mystery.  Hunter Tylo was beautiful but I'm here to tell you she delivered "Steve, I need you" and "Steve, you still love me" exactly the same way she delivered "Caroline, you have leukemia" on B&B a year later. Not a ton of range there. I've seen Stephen Nichols create vastly different characters and demonstrate a sexual spark with pretty much anyone who enters the same zipcode so why Steve always looked at Marina with the same annoyance and weary incomprehension I'd expact him to summon up for someone who dinged his car and refused to hand over their insurance info is beyond me. Even the flashbacks look like a restraining order was on the books. This story did not need to be this inept. They didn't even let us enjoy Marina's death.

If you want a laugh, look at the episodes when MBE was on sick leave and SN had to open the show to explain that, no, MBE didn't win the coin toss allowing her to stay home while he hauled this crapfest uphill. It's hilarious because you know he wants to say "I know this story sucks but I have to memorize this crap, you just have to watch it once."

Stephen Nichols hated the Marina story and that led to him clashing with the showrunners a lot, it played a factor in his departure. Also, he and Hunter did not get along. I hated Marina too but her chemistry with Jack was combustible... I thought the Victor/Marina dynamic had potential as well..  The show took too long with the damn key.. 

[JaneDigby]

22 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

Stephen Nichols hated the Marina story and that led to him clashing with the showrunners a lot, it played a factor in his departure. Also, he and Hunter did not get along. I hated Marina too but her chemistry with Jack was combustible... I thought the Victor/Marina dynamic had potential as well..  The show took too long with the damn key.. 

I some research and found the headwriter, Anne Howard Bailey, calling the whole storyline her "grapes of deception" story and complaining that she was forced to write the part about Marina being Steve's first wife. Well, it certainly played like noone was wanted to be involved. It also played like they started tinkering with it early on.

I found Hunter Tylo's little "tell all" book in which she claims SN was hitting on her. Not sure I buy that. She also refers to her husband at the time coming to the Days set to "spray his scent" around or something. The mind reels. 

The Jack-Isabella angle was great but it looks like they were going for a Marcus-Isabella angle early on. How the show never managed to do anything with Marcus amazed me then and still does. The Marina/Jack chemistry was smoking, the show should have explored that, I also would have been down for a Jack-Isabella romance but that would have been too many innocent maidens for Jack. A Jennifer/Jack/Marina triangle would have smoked. Victor and Marina would have been interesting too but then Roman would have had to have a go at Marina, because that was the rule back then - if Victor dated a woman, Roman had to bed her too. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by JaneDigby

[Pearson80]

15 minutes ago, JaneDigby said:

I some research and found the headwriter, Anne Howard Bailey, calling the whole storyline her "grapes of deception" story and complaining that she was forced to write the part about Marina being Steve's first wife. Well, it certainly played like noone was wanted to be involved. It also played like they started tinkering with it early on.

I found Hunter Tylo's little "tell all" book in which she claims SN was hitting on her. Not sure I buy that. She also refers to her husband at the time coming to the Days set to "spray his scent" around or something. The mind reels. 

The Jack-Isabella angle was great but it looks like they were going for a Marcus-Isabella angle early on. How the show never managed to do anything with Marcus amazed me then and still does. The Marina/Jack chemistry was smoking, the show should have explored that, I also would have been down for a Jack-Isabella romance but that would have been too many innocent maidens for Jack. A Jennifer/Jack/Marina triangle would have smoked. Victor and Marina would have been interesting too but then Roman would have had to have a go at Marina, because that was the rule back then - if Victor dated a woman, Roman had to bed her too. 

I gave Hunter Tylo the side eye because when she got with her husband, he was married and so was she.. Then she became a fundamentalist, how are you a fundamentalist and you act on a soap. The cognitive dissonance is something else.. 

I could envision a scenario where Jack in his self-hatred mode having a tryst with Marina while pushing Jennifer away.. Marina could decide that Steve is no longer the man for her and make a go at it with Jack. I could see Carly and Jennifer teaming up to get the goods on Marina.. Also the dynamic between Marina and Isabella needed to be explored more... Marina could have been so much more but the show screwed it up.. I could see Marina messing with Bo and Hope as well, in addition to Steve and Kayla..