A Case Of The Mondays: Vent Your Work Spleen Here

[DeLurker]

I had a manager who clipped his toenails in his office - foot propped up on the desk.  Thankfully, I did not see it myself, but got a full report from our Admin that he called in to his office to give her an assignment while he was in the middle of all this.

We worked at the corporate headquarters of the largest S & L at the time.  A very buttoned down environment.

[bilgistic]

My boss clips his nails in the office regularly, and does it when he's on the phone with clients(!!!), and so does the other "big producer" on the other row of cubes. My coworker and I are so grossed out by it. I'm just waiting to get beaned in the eye with a flying fingernail clipping.

[ari333]

OH DEAR GOD!!! [/ Frasier]

[tribeca]

One coworker who is favorite of our boss is bossy and talks down to the rest of the staff was recently promoted. Before she was promoted she had a council with district manager due to complaints from coworkers about her saying she wanted to punch another coworker in the face , watched a coworker get hurt decided not help since she doesn't like him and called in sick 4 Saturday in a row.   Lets just say I just don't get it 

[theredhead77]

On 2/19/2017 at 8:53 AM, janestclair said:

I have a meeting next week to talk to the superintendent about my supervisor and our vote of no confidence.

@janestclair how did your meeting go? Did I miss an update?

On 2/21/2017 at 9:01 PM, bilgistic said:

And speaking of salary and people not getting paid what they are worth...[bilgistic tap-dances across the stage...]

I'm getting a job reclassification/new title. I shall henceforth be known externally as our team's Marketing Director (go big or go home, I guess) and internally as Something Something Operations Analyst Something. I had zero to do with the naming. "Marketing Specialist" is more appropriate, but I'll cut that fart later.

I haven't gotten the word on my pay. My job reclassification will make me ineligible for overtime pay; I won't be an hourly employee any longer. My request was that my current regular pay plus OT was matched PLUS another $10K. All told, what I'm asking for is ~$32/hour or ~$67K (basically, $10 more/hour than my current base rate). I made $50/hour freelancing (with not enough steady work).

@bilgistic how are things going?

[bilgistic]

Nothing measurable has happened yet. No job reclassification (still entering my hourly timecard), I still do not know what my official title is, nor have I gotten word on the salary increase. Next Friday is my month deadline. I guess I need to remind everyone. The new hire (guy who's going to miraculously relieve us all) is supposed to start March 20.

As I mentioned, my "boss" told me the job reclassification was going to go through. He did so again in email, and said the "promotion was well deserved". That just keeps sitting with me. If it was well deserved, why did I have to threaten to leave to get it? I know I deserve it, but as @BookWoman56 (I think) said, a boss that doesn't recognize your value until you threaten to leave is a bad boss (paraphrasing). No surprise there, of course.

The atmosphere has otherwise been a little better. The micromanagement virtually stopped, shockingly enough. I worked from home today, making good on my request to do so one day a week, though I hadn't since President's Day. No one groused (to me) that I was working from home. I remain completely buried under the workload of two people, but I can see that small change has happened.

Edited March 9, 2017 by bilgistic

[Quof]

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I have a coworker who clips her nails in the office

She's doing it again.  How many times in a week does one have to trim one's fingernails?

Just had a horrifying thought. Since I never go look, how do I know it's her fingernails?

[theredhead77]

14 hours ago, bilgistic said:

Nothing measurable has happened yet. No job reclassification (still entering my hourly timecard), I still do not know what my official title is, nor have I gotten word on the salary increase. Next Friday is my month deadline. I guess I need to remind everyone. The new hire (guy who's going to miraculously relieve us all) is supposed to start March 20.

As I mentioned, my "boss" told me the job reclassification was going to go through. He did so again in email, and said the "promotion was well deserved". That just keeps sitting with me. If it was well deserved, why did I have to threaten to leave to get it? I know I deserve it, but as @BookWoman56 (I think) said, a boss that doesn't recognize your value until you threaten to leave is a bad boss (paraphrasing). No surprise there, of course.

I'd reply to the email and ask the ETA of your job reclassification and if your raise is retroactive or when effective date of your raise is. And start working on your resume. 

[Lisin]

34 minutes ago, Quof said:

She's doing it again.  How many times in a week does one have to trim one's fingernails?

Just had a horrifying thought. Since I never go look, how do I know it's her fingernails?

Heee. I just clipped mine in the office. Though, to be fair to me I'm literally the only person here today and I did it because I broke one really badly moving a box of files and then decided to even them all up. I wouldn't do it if people could hear me though. Oh, I also did it in the bathroom. 

[bilgistic]

I'll allow it.

[bilgistic]

7 hours ago, theredhead77 said:

I'd reply to the email and ask the ETA of your job reclassification and if your raise is retroactive or when effective date of your raise is. And start working on your resume. 

I've updated the resume because of that one weird job interview. I'm getting attention (recruiters contacting me) on LinkedIn, but it's largely commercial real estate, which booooooooooo!

This new guy that is starting March 20 graduated from college in 2014. And he's a frat boy. The guys hired another clone, in other words. So I'll have three young, entitled men to deal with on a daily basis. I. Need. Out. Another planet, maybe.

Apologies to anyone who was in a fraternity. I'm sure you're lovely.

[raven]

On 3/8/2017 at 7:30 PM, DeLurker said:

I had a manager who clipped his toenails in his office - foot propped up on the desk. 

I....I.....I.....speechless. 

YUCK.  WHY??? (that's rhetorical btw).

[BookWoman56]

On 3/8/2017 at 11:06 PM, bilgistic said:

As I mentioned, my "boss" told me the job reclassification was going to go through. He did so again in email, and said the "promotion was well deserved". That just keeps sitting with me. If it was well deserved, why did I have to threaten to leave to get it? I know I deserve it, but as @BookWoman56 (I think) said, a boss that doesn't recognize your value until you threaten to leave is a bad boss (paraphrasing). No surprise there, of course.

Yes, that was me. And I still stand by that comment. So while I sincerely hope your boss delivers on what was promised, he still sucks as a boss. 

The situation reminds me of a pet peeve that is work-related, though. For years I've seen all these articles and books around toxic employees and other types of employees, and the implication always seems to be that if you aren't getting ahead in your career, then something is wrong with  you. What about the concept of toxic employers? There should be self-help articles on how to recognize that you work for an employer who is horrible or where the corporate culture is terrible, and strategies for getting away from those types of employers before they completely suck the life force out of you. 

ETA: On the subject of clipping nails in the office, one of the grossest stories I've ever heard was when a former colleague described how he had inherited someone's cube, complete with desk. When he opened the top drawer (the small one where you would normally keep a few pens or whatever), there was a layer of nail clippings across the entire bottom of the drawer. So not only had his predecessor routinely clipped nails in the office, he/she couldn't even be bothered to put them in the trash.

Edited March 10, 2017 by BookWoman56

[bilgistic]

Nail clippings in a desk drawer. I'm shivering!

[janestclair]

Oh god. Who does that?

No updates on my supervisor yet...which might be a good thing.  A similar change already was approved for another department last month, but no similar change for her/our department.  I do think my meeting went fairly well, and that some of the things I mentioned knocked her for  a loop.  We were actually hoping to hear something today, but nothing yet.  They only do these kinds of hiring/firing/personnel issues meetings once a month though, so we're all going to be dead by the next one, just from the waiting.  

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[ratgirlagogo]

19 hours ago, BookWoman56 said:

The situation reminds me of a pet peeve that is work-related, though. For years I've seen all these articles and books around toxic employees and other types of employees, and the implication always seems to be that if you aren't getting ahead in your career, then something is wrong with  you. What about the concept of toxic employers? There should be self-help articles on how to recognize that you work for an employer who is horrible or where the corporate culture is terrible, and strategies for getting away from those types of employers before they completely suck the life force out of you. 

Behold:

https://www.amazon.com/Revised-Expanded-Idiots-Insanity-Incompetency/dp/160163191X

Not a recommendation really but just saying there are mainstream books out there that do deal with the topic.

Edited March 11, 2017 by ratgirlagogo

[backformore]

On ‎3‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 8:49 PM, ratgirlagogo said:

Behold:

https://www.amazon.com/Revised-Expanded-Idiots-Insanity-Incompetency/dp/160163191X

Not a recommendation really but just saying there are mainstream books out there that do deal with the topic.

I just imagined if I had bought that book "How to work for an Idiot:  survive & thrive without killing your boss"  and kept it on my desk at my last job! 

[backformore]

At that previous job, there was a receptionist/office manager who was VERY LOUD.  I was three offices down from her, and I could hear her on the phone all day, unless I closed my door.  

The worst, though, was if you sneeze.   If I sneeze, and someone who is with me at the time, says "bless you", well, Ok, that's polite.  But if I'm in my office, working, maybe on the phone, I do not need to hear someone shout BLESS YOU!  from all the way down the hall.  Especially since I am allergy prone, and might sneeze several times over the course of a day - sometimes several times in a hour. EVERY sneeze got a loud BLESS YOU. It would startle me at times, because it was so loud.     I used to try  to sneeze as quietly as I possible could, to avoid being yelled at, I mean, "blessed".

I even once told her I' an atheist, I don't need a blessing -  and she laughed. 

[MargeGunderson]

10 hours ago, backformore said:

I just imagined if I had bought that book "How to work for an Idiot:  survive & thrive without killing your boss"  and kept it on my desk at my last job! 

I bought a book called "Working for You is Killing Me." It was helpful. More helpful - my manager no longer being my manager.

[theredhead77]

Guess who pulled the same MIA stuff on Monday? That was my final straw. I saw my boss briefly yesterday and pointed to the circle of feelings (click here if you want to see it) and said just so you know, I'm currently right around here (between 2 and 3) I'd like to chat when you have a spare minute because I'm really not happy about some things. Of course he didn't make time yesterday, so when I  left, instead of my normal cheery bye, I just muttered bye as I walked past his office. This morning I scheduled a meeting.

I brought up how I've been feeling like I have to beg for the resources and information to do my job. Examples: he password protects some files that I need to get in to and never sends me the data I'm requesting; I have to ask 3-4 times for a list of new customers so I can contact them (he says he's going to do it but never does and this is tied to my goals). I continued on to I shouldn't have to beg for a call back, how he told me to text him and he doesn't text back, I prefer to have a conversation instead of email since he misconstrues what I'm saying in email. I ended with I feel like he's trolling me (because he's an internet troll) and I'm tired of feeling like he's irritating me on purpose so I react and reiterated that obviously I'm very comfortable working for him or I wouldn't bother having this meeting or calling this stuff out.

I think it was a decent meeting and I felt heard. He told me I'm doing a great job for the company, he knows everything I'm doing and he approves of it all, even if I don't manage my time in a way he thinks I should (but I get my stuff done, just in a different order).

[bilgistic]

28 minutes ago, theredhead77 said:

He told me I'm doing a great job for the company, he knows everything I'm doing and he approves of it all, even if I don't manage my time in a way he thinks I should (but I get my stuff done, just in a different order).

Bolding for my emphasis. No one but insecure bosses and HR use the tired "time management" lingo. It chaps my ass. The notion that anyone should work in the exact same way as another is garbage. Unless you work on an assembly line, what's it to anyone how you "manage your time" if you are getting your work done?

[theredhead77]

1 hour ago, bilgistic said:

Bolding for my emphasis. No one but insecure bosses and HR use the tired "time management" lingo. It chaps my ass. The notion that anyone should work in the exact same way as another is garbage. Unless you work on an assembly line, what's it to anyone how you "manage your time" if you are getting your work done?

It's really not a micromanagement thing. We've been really busy and I've been extra stressed. It's his way of trying to help. I like to check our orders throughout the day starting when I come in and he does that see a point to check them before 10. He prefers I call customers between 8 and 10 but I prefer to make my calls around 10, gives people a chance to settle in and handle urgent matters.

[ParadoxLost]

I have accumulated 1100 unread emails in the last week.  That's just the ones I haven't been able to read yet not all the ones I got.

I hate work email.  I seriously hate it.  People are stupid about it.  

Do you know how many times a week I tell someone that if something is urgent that sending me three different "you haven't answered my email" emails isn't going to help get them an answer if I haven't waded my way through all the useless fyi crap I receive to find their first email yet.  And yet not one of these 1100 emails is urgent enough to merit an IM or a phone call.

I have a job that I won't actually accomplish if I read email all day.  And I swear, if I read one email, I get five more before I'm done.  Triage with the urgent tags doesn't work because everyone thinks everything is urgent for someone even if you've copied one person that needs to do something and twenty that don't.

I think there should be one day a week where you are limited to sending only ten emails a day to train people about communicating efficiently.

And while we are at it.  One day a week where no meetings get scheduled.

I seriously thought about building a pareto chart today to send out to my top email offenders.  The subject line would be... Did you seriously have more than 100 things you needed to tell me in 4 days.

That's depressing.  There are multiple people who are emailing me every 20 minutes, every day.

[theredhead77]

I feel ya @ParadoxLost. We have a dedicated request mailbox (I've ranted about here). People can send a single email with name, account number and email address. That's all I need and I know what it's for. Instead they email me, they email my boss and then they wonder why their shit doesn't get done.

[bilgistic]

And how about let's stop sending email at night. How about spending time with your families, people? Just stop working. You don't get a prize for "busiest"!

I get relatively little email and am an "Inbox Zero" person. I left work yesterday evening at 7. I had six un-dealt-with emails in my inbox. There were 47 emails in my inbox at 9 this morning. People were emailing at 9, 10 and 11 pm. That's absurd. It takes me hours to get through the few I have because they are all, "Do this thing for me that I think takes five minutes but really takes 45. Later I will complain that you haven't gotten finished with what I think are the only things you do, but are in fact only a minor part of your job. Signed, Crap Committee Chief."

If I had 1100 emails, I would have to quit. The anxiety would be too crushing.

[janestclair]

The worst emails are the ones that are sent to the entire distribution list and someone does a reply all with something inane like, "Thanks!" It makes me rage.  

My supervisor marks every single one of her emails as urgent and neglects to put a subject in about 75 percent of the time. I delete all of them without reading.  If everything is urgent, then nothing is, in my book.  Only once in 5 years have I missed something important.  

While I'm on the topic, the rumor mill has it that because of everything going on with us writing narratives and speaking to the superintendent about her incompetence and general failure as a human being, that she is resigning at the end of the year.  I will believe it when I see it; however, all signs do seem to point in that direction.  She seems like she is completely out of fucks to give.  Which is fine with me.

[Petunia13]

I literally feel the frustration of @theredhead77 since you're not entirely being heard. And the frustration you have and @bilgistic that's the problem when you are hypercompetent and a problem solver your reward is doing multiple people's jobs for them - plus your own tasks yay! I'm a manager however paid by the hour but guilt tripped constantly. And deal with a lot of fuckshit on top. And the invisible crap that comes along with being a woman and POC in a mass of white men. And some women I work with don't help the matter - playing dumb daily or flirting with them while being an asshole to women for no legit reason hinders and undermines everything. 

[bilgistic]

The new kid has been with us a week. He worked for a couple years in our Atlanta office in the financing department, and our managing director (guess the race, socioeconomic status and gender) had a hand in him moving to our office.

New Kid has been out of school almost three years. He's a financial analyst on our team. He worked as a broker before that, after college. He is 17 years my junior, which means he has 17 fewer years of experience than I do. I have 11 years of experience in commercial real estate; he has three-ish.

This week, we were all working on a Very Important Proposal that ONCE AGAIN, my boss and the pissy other financial analyst (now "associate"--more on that shortly) would not give me time--or "allow" me--to review. This is a portfolio of buildings we are trying to win the opportunity to sell; their sale price would be ~$90 million. We were spending literal thousands on putting together this pitch, BUT NOT LETTING ME REVIEW IT for spelling, syntax, grammar and punctuation errors. What is happening? How do people not care if we look like uneducated morons?

On Wednesday, I got to do literally ONE review out of dozens of turns, which were still happening up to the last minute today at 2pm.

That fucking kid sent edits to the proposal at midday today. I thought I would go through the roof. One of his comments was that the portfolio was the "most rare" of assets. MOST RARE. WHAT THE FUCK!

Oh, I casually glanced through the proposal just before my boss was going to send it and found a huge error. Ten other people didn't see it. I said to him, "This is why we let me check these things." Silence.

In related news, I told you all that I got a title upgrade. Well, so did my coworker; he just happens to be transitioning into a different/better title at the same time I am. Funny that! I got to thinking about that. Any time I've gotten a bonus, so has he (plus several more that I haven't gotten). I hope he appreciates my constantly speaking up and asking for recognition, because it's certainly helping advance his career. (He's 28, by the way.) My boss's talk of "recognizing my value" rings hollow when others are rewarded for my accomplishments. It's like when parents have two young children and one has a birthday, but they give the non-birthday kid a gift "so they won't feel left out".

And that "raise" I was supposed to get? I asked for $10,000 more, meaning more than I make now, period. I was clear in what I meant--more than hourly plus overtime pay. They're giving me $10,000 more than my current base hourly pay...in April at annual increase time, not when I asked for it in February. So I won't be making any more money because my current overtime pay is nearly $10,000. Yes, it'll be good if we have a downturn and I no longer have overtime, since I will no longer be paid for it. I will be going to a salaried position from an hourly. But I am expected to work overtime, so who wins here?

Exactly what I said was going to happen with this new kid has already happened after a Single. Fucking. Week. It's so incredibly depressing. I'm exhausted from constantly having to fight. I'm just fucking exhausted.

Edited March 25, 2017 by bilgistic

[theredhead77]

28 minutes ago, bilgistic said:

Exactly what I said was going to happen with this new kid has already happened after a Single. Fucking. Week. It's so incredibly depressing. I'm exhausted from constantly having to fight. I'm just fucking exhausted.

That royally sucks! You got hosed. You gave them a fair shake, time to move on.

Edited March 25, 2017 by theredhead77

[emma675]

Bilgistic, you've given them more than enough chances, time to dump them and let them flounder. You deserve better and a workplace that values you.

[ABay]

Maybe it's time to take the risk of starting the school/training program you were looking into?

[shanndee]

...I changed my mind!...I have vented enough about my issue!

**is there a "delete post" option?...I can't seem to see one?**

Edited March 25, 2017 by shanndee
nothing to see here!

[BookWoman56]

@bilgistic, if I understand the situation correctly, your $10K salary "increase" is not really an increase at all, as it only offsets the overtime pay you would have received as an hourly employee. As a salaried employee, you're expected to work as many hours as needed to get the job done, with no additional pay. So, from a bottom line perspective, there's no fucking increase in the amount of wages the company will be paying you on an annual basis, and thus no financial benefit to you. The only thing that has actually changed is your title, and that change is of value only if you intend to stay in your current field long enough to leverage the promotion into a higher salary/better job elsewhere. 

As for your colleague, that situation reminds me of the one I was in a few years ago, when my former Manager Asshat hired someone completely unqualified, strictly on the basis of knowing him from church, to fill a regular full-time position that I had been assured would go to me to change my status from contractor to FTE, with benefits, etc. I had to watch with increasing rage as this new doofus came in, fucked up virtually everything he touched, alienated almost everybody he worked with, but was still being fast-tracked by Manager Asshat to move up the corporate food chain. And then Manager Asshat was shocked when doofus left the company for a different job; the rest of us had known since day 1 that the guy would jump ship as soon as there was an offer that paid a dollar more than his current job. A few months prior to the departure of doofus, I was converted from contractor to FTE; I stayed in that position for slightly over a year, and then moved to my current position in a completely different part of the company, which entailed a promotion, a significant salary bump, and the right to work from home full-time. 

All of this to say: Your boss has done nothing substantive to give you what you requested. The company has not actually increased your take-home pay; all they've done is stroke your ego a bit by giving you a different title, which costs them precisely nothing. The only financial advantage you would see is that in the event that the company decides nobody is allowed to work overtime, your salary will not be affected by the loss of overtime hours.  On their part, the change is simply a head game to make you feel as if they have recognized your abilities and hard work, when in fact they've done virtually nothing. Unless I'm missing something here, I don't see how your situation is any different from what it was when you were ready to quit. And I'm not advocating for you to quit, but just to give serious thought to whether you want to hang out in your current job long enough to use your new job title to move on to a better job elsewhere, or if you can continue to hang on to the current job indefinitely knowing that not much is going to change.

[ari333]

59 minutes ago, shanndee said:

...I changed my mind!...I have vented enough about my issue!

**is there a "delete post" option?...I can't seem to see one?**

I was looking for a delete too. Even when I tried to edit (before I got my virus protection) the screen froze on me in the edit feature. Even the cursor froze. Seems ok now tho.  

[theredhead77]

I have this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia

I know I do. I showed the link to my boss and he was like yep, you have sound rage. Doesn't everyone want to beat the shit out of people who pop and snap their gum?

Anyway, I'm falling behind on calls I have to make because the woman next to me chews her gum like a fucking cow, popping and snapping it. I told my  boss this is why I asked if I could work in your office when you aren't coming in (I did for a couple days but I guess someone said something to him and now he said I can't anymore). The days I did I made 40 calls. All other days I'm lucky if I make 3. So now I get to book a conference room and make calls from there (using my laptop screen instead of two monitors) or drive to another office 15 miles (but an hour) away to sit in an office with two monitors if all I do is make my calls all day. I told him I'd drive to the other location if I could expense my mileage. WHY can't he just talk to this woman's boss and perhaps ask her to refrain from chewing gum in a professional setting, or discuss the noise level in that department with their manager? They have birthday celebrations several times a week. It's so fucking disruptive!

I woke up so irritated I called out sick.

[AgentRXS]

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I have this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia

Omg. So do I. I never knew their was an actual diagnosis for it.  One of the (many) reasons I am happy that I no longer work in an office setting.

[bilgistic]

On 3/24/2017 at 4:33 PM, janestclair said:

If everything is urgent, then nothing is, in my book.

I almost put this very thing as my IM status at work the other day.

BTW, the micromanagement is back in full force. I'm again being asked if I'm doing recurring tasks I've done for three years. (and again, those tasks the dumbass would know I've done if he checked his goddamned email). It was a nice five weeks off from that. I'm seriously considering talking to the managing director about it all. I don't know if it will make a difference, but it can't get any worse at this point.

Did I tell you that new kid left at 4:40 on his first day? (I rarely leave before 6:30.) I seriously can't deal with him. The entitlement wafts from him. He walks the halls constantly. I am going to have to put a hall monitor on him. Oh, but, he's supposed to take so much work off me and the guys! Do you think he's asked me once if I needed anything? He's done nothing to for the first property book on which he was supposed to help. Act surprised!

[Blergh]

Here's a working pet peeve: If I'm having to juggle four chainsaws with only two hands, it is NOT a good time to expect me to start engaging in banal offtask chit-chat with you and get upset if I only say 'Hello!' before  immediately going back to said juggling!

[theredhead77]

Someone (not me!) left a note on gum poppers desk. Someone complained ot my boss. It took 5 minutes and pissed off tears to convince my boss it wasn't me. I told him, don't I always tell you the truth, even when I fuck up? Why would I lie about this. I'd  was contemplating asking her to stop with the gum popping but I haven't said a peep.

[ari333]

16 hours ago, theredhead77 said:

Someone (not me!) left a note on gum poppers desk. Someone complained ot my boss. It took 5 minutes and pissed off tears to convince my boss it wasn't me. I told him, don't I always tell you the truth, even when I fuck up? Why would I lie about this. I'd  was contemplating asking her to stop with the gum popping but I haven't said a peep.

There was a person in a place where I worked who popped gum and made another person crazy. It slightly bugged me too. Anyway, this person was sensitive to sounds or food sounds or IDK what, but he would go to the free snack area where chips and snacks were  laid out for people to take. He'd get all the chip bags and smash all the chips so they'd be only chip dust so he wouldn't have to listen to people crunching chips. No really. I never got to eat a whole uncrunched chip there unless I brought it myself.

The Cheetos were just orange powder, but the bags were still intact.

This person also told me that I "swallowed too loudly." Yikes. What the hell can I do about that? I get it that folks can close their mouths while eating or do other polite things to be quiet and mannerly. But SWALLOWING too loudly?

That's like saying "blinking too loudly."

[theredhead77]

Sounds like that guy had severe Misophonia but HR should have intervened when he was destroying things!

It's not that a sound slightly bugs you, or you find it annoying (like nails on a chalk board). Misophonia makes you want to go to any length to make that noise stop. 

[backformore]

My misophonia is restricted to people WHISTLING.   I can't stand it, especially BAD whistling.

[ari333]

3 hours ago, theredhead77 said:

Sounds like that guy had severe Misophonia but HR should have intervened when he was destroying things!

It's not that a sound slightly bugs you, or you find it annoying (like nails on a chalk board). Misophonia makes you want to go to any length to make that noise stop. 

I see your  point, but if it bothers a person that badly, why not leave the snack area so people who want to have a snack can have it in peace? Crunchy chips make a crunch noise in a snack area . It happens. Also, people have to swallow. :-)

[ennui]

[theredhead77]

2 hours ago, ari333 said:

I see your  point, but if it bothers a person that badly, why not leave the snack area so people who want to have a snack can have it in peace? Crunchy chips make a crunch noise in a snack area . It happens. Also, people have to swallow. :-)

If eating is regulated to the snack area, then sure. I've never worked in an office who has policed eating at your desk. I'm not defending his actions, destroying the snacks was wrong but I feel for him. His fight or flight reaction probably kicked in and I'd wager some imaginary money he had no idea why he was acting like that.

[bilgistic]

Ugh, y'all. I got my official "merit increase" letter today. Fuck off with that. I scheduled a meeting for Tuesday with the managing director. I plan to show him the stack of commendations I have from brokers, coworkers, vendors, etc. I will tell him exactly how much I have helped sell and how much work I do, and why I shouldn't have to fight to be properly compensated for it. The worst that can happen is I lose my job, and that wouldn't be that bad.

[Petunia13]

The worst they could so I'd think is disagree or stall you. 

[theredhead77]

1 hour ago, bilgistic said:

Ugh, y'all. I got my official "merit increase" letter today. Fuck off with that. I scheduled a meeting for Tuesday with the managing director. I plan to show him the stack of commendations I have from brokers, coworkers, vendors, etc. I will tell him exactly how much I have helped sell and how much work I do, and why I shouldn't have to fight to be properly compensated for it. The worst that can happen is I lose my job, and that wouldn't be that bad.

I agree with the PP. The worst they can do is continue to lead you on, make promises they have no intention of keeping until you quit. If they terminate you for things other than stealing, fraud, and a handful of other reasons, you can get unemployment. If you quit, it's nearly impossible.

[AgentRXS]

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The worst they can do is continue to lead you on, make promises they have no intention of keeping until you quit. If they terminate you for things other than stealing, fraud, and a handful of other reasons, you can get unemployment. If you quit, it's nearly impossible

This. @bilgistic after reading through your posts the past few months, it definitely sounds like they are creating a hostile work environment so you'll quit. The last office job I held had such a hostile work place that it drove my health into tailspin. They fired me over a bullshit reason (Fl is an right-to-work state so they they don't need to give you a reason unless you are unionized). But they did everything in their power to try to bully me to quit before that.

I wouldn't give them anymore chances to talk things out. I would be going into overdrive trying to get out of there.

[theredhead77]

If you do decide to quit, document, document document, going back as far as you can recall. Discussions, times, dates, print emails if you can. Include the raise and title change. So if you quit you can show what led up to it.