ElectricBoogaloo April 13, 2015 Share April 13, 2015 Jackie hopes to return to All Saints with assistance from her lawyer, who she cannot afford to pay. Promo: Clips: Link to comment
wrestlesflamingos April 15, 2015 Share April 15, 2015 Please take a moment to review our approach to the next episode previews. Thanks! http://forums.previously.tv/topic/25026-previews-where-to-speculate/?p=1036490 Link to comment
LuciaMia April 15, 2015 Share April 15, 2015 In the 'Ever Met Jackie' clip, Thor has quite the singing voice. (Do you think he was miffed at being passed over as head ER nurse?) Link to comment
Primetimer April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 And she's not gonna any more of your crap! Read the story Link to comment
LadyintheLoop April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Now I'm wondering if Kevin took the wedding money. 5 Link to comment
fliptopbox April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 I found this episode to be kind of boring. Also, I started to wonder if Kevin may not have some secret issue of his own that $150,000 just mysteriously disappeared, along with whatever that wedding purse thing his new wife accused Jackie of stealing. Speaking of, is that a new thing? I've never heard of people passing some donation bag around at weddings and it strikes me as really tacky, like begging for money. 2 Link to comment
The Solution April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Kevin's got some issues with money if he's wearing a $4K Rolex and driving a brand new Audi. 6 Link to comment
hatchetgirl April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Jackie and pharmacy guy are just awful. I see this ending badly. Link to comment
ElectricBoogaloo April 20, 2015 Author Share April 20, 2015 Speaking of, is that a new thing? I've never heard of people passing some donation bag around at weddings and it strikes me as really tacky, like begging for money. There are several variations of this (the money dance, the money tree, the money bag) but yeah, it's basically begging for money at your wedding. Mr. EB and I paid for our entire wedding ourselves so we had a very limited budget. As a result, several people recommended that we do one of these money things and both of us were like uh, no. It's fine if people want to give cash as a wedding gift, but we weren't going to actively solicit donations at our reception. The money tree is the most passive version. You have a tree (real or fake) somewhere at the reception and people can pin money to it. The money dance and the money bag are a bit more aggressive. With the money bag, the couple walks around with some kind of bag or purse during the reception so people can put money in it, kind of like passing the collection plate at church. With the money dance, people pin money to the bride's dress and then get to dance with her briefly while everyone watches. I started to wonder if Kevin may not have some secret issue of his own that $150,000 just mysteriously disappeared Between the wedding and the bar repairs, I could see him easily burning through $150K easily and then using whatever was left to get a bigger apartment. Did he say that he was renting or buying a new place? Either way, security deposits or putting money down on a place is a lot. Weddings are ridiculously expensive (and it was obvious that he didn't skimp on his wedding), as is commercial construction work. From that point of view, I don't think he was necessarily blowing huge wads of cash on hookers and blow. But that $4000 Rolex seemed to hint that something is going on, even if it's just Kevin wanting to live a lifestyle that's beyond his means. As terrible as it has been for him to deal with Jackie cheating on him and being an addict, it was really shitty of him to take out another mortgage on their house without telling her and then initially trying to claim that it was for the girls' living expense. Bitch, please! 3 Link to comment
Mama No Life April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Eddie is an idiot. That's apparently going to be my comment on every episode this season. Any speculation about Gloria being in on Jackie's little show was put to rest for me tonight. Jackie may have lured Gloria into berating her last week but Gloria was not in on the play. She's hurt just like Zoey. Asshole of the week is a contest between Kevin (and thank goodness his character is getting interesting), Thor (not nice singing that song) and of course, Jackie herself. Convenient that taking the woman's meds woke her up. We all know that's not WHY she took them, so it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if that had worsened the woman's condition. 1 Link to comment
ElectricBoogaloo April 20, 2015 Author Share April 20, 2015 I agree it wasn't nice for Thor and Zoe to chime in with Coop and the blonde, I balked when Eddie got all self righteous and said that Jackie never did anything to them. Besides lie to their faces? 3 Link to comment
LadyintheLoop April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 And throw Carrie under the bus over her own mistake? I hope they all realize that any one of them could be next. Kevin's "issue" may just be that he's a crappy businessman, and doesn't want his bride to know. Wasn't it her idea to make the bar a more upscale joint? 2 Link to comment
txhorns79 April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 There are several variations of this (the money dance, the money tree, the money bag) but yeah, it's basically begging for money at your wedding. Mr. EB and I paid for our entire wedding ourselves so we had a very limited budget. As a result, several people recommended that we do one of these money things and both of us were like uh, no. It's fine if people want to give cash as a wedding gift, but we weren't going to actively solicit donations at our reception. They are less tacky when it's a young couple, just starting out. They are very tacky when an older, already established couple tries to pass the plate. As terrible as it has been for him to deal with Jackie cheating on him and being an addict, it was really shitty of him to take out another mortgage on their house without telling her and then initially trying to claim that it was for the girls' living expense. Bitch, please! I kind of hated this development. It seemed like the writers taking a lazy route to try and equalize things between Kevin and Jackie. 4 Link to comment
Blakeston April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 (edited) As terrible as it has been for him to deal with Jackie cheating on him and being an addict, it was really shitty of him to take out another mortgage on their house without telling her and then initially trying to claim that it was for the girls' living expense. Bitch, please! Not to mention literally forging her signature! He's a jerk and a moron at the same time. I'm not sure I buy Kevin doing that, honestly - even though I've never liked him. It doesn't seem particularly consistent with what we've seen from the character before. Edited April 20, 2015 by Blakeston Link to comment
dangwoodchucks April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Kevin's got some issues with money if he's wearing a $4K Rolex and driving a brand new Audi. I think that Kevin is doing the renovations, buying the Rolex and car, paying for a big wedding etc, in order to impress Mia, either on his own or because she wants him to look more impressive to her friends & family. I kind of hated this development. It seemed like the writers taking a lazy route to try and equalize things between Kevin and Jackie. I feel like this was contrived to give Jackie a way to get the cash she needed for the lawyer. It's interesting that Jackie was getting ready to take money out of the house without Kevin's permission when she found out he had beat her to it. So she was going to forge his signature? Why is the vehicle Jackie drives in Kevin's name and the house still in both? Shouldn't the divorce have taken care of splitting up these assets? Was Grace on drugs when she came to see Jackie, she seemed so agreeable and even (gulp) happy. Pretty pathetic that Jackie sold that frame and didn't even take out the photo of Nana first. Does Jackie know no other way than to lie to people she loves. She's not even using and still she lies. She sent the frame out to be polished? Eddie's comment that Jackie never did anything to them, ugh, made me feel stabby. Not a single one of them is aware of all the things Jackie's done, but each of them knows enough to know Eddie's comment was BS. Zoey seems like she is wisely being careful about continuing her friendship with Jackie. If it weren't for Zoey keeping quiet about the Nancy Wood ID, Jackie would be facing jail time. She owes Zoey a lot, but I don't remember if she's ever really owned anything she did to Zoey, or apologized for it. I'm still angry Jackie wasn't exposed and punished for stealing Carrie's DEA number. This helping out the elderly woman was nothing more than trying to show us good Jackie. Helpful Jackie. Too bad the daughter will just get another nurse who will resume giving her the meds. Oh, and Jackie sells the drugs of course. It would have been nice to have a shot of Jackie being tempted by them, her sobriety looks way too easy this time. 1 Link to comment
Beezella April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 I have sure come to dislike the character Jackie. (LOVE the actress!) In the past I admired her for making her patients' needs so much a priority. From the previews for this episode I thought the woman she was caring for had died, or had a terrible setback after Jackie traded her drugs for candy. So at least that was good. But I can't see this ending well. 1 Link to comment
The Solution April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Kevin's got some issues with money if he's wearing a $4K Rolex and driving a brand new Audi. Actually, I'm wondering if he's traded one wife with addiction issues for a new wife with different addiction issues (spending). 3 Link to comment
iMonrey April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Yeah, it felt like everyone was being thrown under the bus just to make Jackie look better. I could maybe see Coop and Roman making Jackie jokes but getting Thor and Zoey to join in was a stretch. The whole scene felt very forced. Everyone got taken down a peg this episode while Jackie "redeemed" herself by helping the elderly woman - even though if that lady had been on downers for a long time and Jackie replaced them all with candy, she'd be going through some serious withdrawal. I kind of wish it had turned out the whole fight last week between Gloria and Jackie had been staged because that, too, sort of makes Gloria look like she's in the wrong for making a scene like that. The only people who weren't thrown under the bus were Jackie and Eddie - which also happen to be the two people who have done the most wrong. 2 Link to comment
pbutler111 April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Now I'm wondering if Kevin took the wedding money. The wedding money was meant for Kevin and his new wife. Him taking it was sort of the objective. This helping out the elderly woman was nothing more than trying to show us good Jackie. Helpful Jackie. I don't think Jackie took the meds to be either good or helpful. She took it to get money once the daughter made it clear none of the meds were actually needed to sustain life. The good outcome for the woman's mother was nothing more than a happy bonus. 1 Link to comment
dangwoodchucks April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 (edited) I think she intended it to be mutually beneficial. Once she questioned the daughter about the meds and realized what was going on, Jackie was told she wouldn't be needed the next week or something. So Jackie helped the older lady get back to normal and at the same time gave a big fuck you to the daughter. She got money for the drugs but I don't think that was her prime reason (it wasn't a big payoff). She saw what the daughter was doing keeping the mother drugged up and thought it was wrong. Jackie has been shown to do things for patients or others she sees being wronged or that need help, but it's usually at the expense of someone else with Jackie often getting a benefit as well. A couple examples come to mind: She helped the girlfriend of the deceased bike messenger by stealing cash from the diplomat who had stabbed a prostitute. She got the sports star who swallowed his drugs to buy an expensive machine for the hospital. Jackie kept the drugs as her bonus. I personally think the writers threw it in there to say, "see, Jackie's a good person". To me she was totally unlikeable last season and it's looking the same way this season. I hope both she and Eddie get caught for everything they've done. Edited April 20, 2015 by dangwoodchucks 1 Link to comment
LuciaMia April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Yes, I think the incident with the old lady was to show us that Jackie can still think like a nurse, putting her patients first. Bad daughter is foiled trying to stick her mother in a nursing home. And having the surplus drugs to sell was a bonus. But at first, when the daughter said 'never should have let you come near her', i thought it was going to be a case of: lady gets off the heavy downers,(damn, there were like 30 script bottles there, all from one doctor?) feels better, gets up and falls and breaks a hip. 10,000 dollar retainer? Wow. Maybe Jackie should have called her nurse's union and asked for the second-best lawyer. That creepy act of the pawn shop lady grabbing Jackie's hand and praying was so weird, I wonder if that had ever happened in real life to any of the writers. If anyone feels they can tough out a three-month probationary period, I'm sure it's Jackie. Scut-work and daily pee tests, bad enough. But a 2/3 pay cut? Ouch! A happy looking Grace? Sure bet she's there as a plant to spy on Kevin's behalf. And hasn't he descended into a total dickwad. 2 Link to comment
Fisher King April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Everyone's made some good points. I would argue that this isn't the first time Kevin's shown to be on the shady side. There was the time when Jackie was about to be exposed & Kevin fessed up to having the affair. I remember folks complaining that that was very contrived. I agree that it seemed like a cheap, easy out for the writers, but it made for a twisty, dramatic finale. And I can't say I'm surprised that the show went to that well again. Did Kevin take that wedding money and not tell his new wife? I also don't trust Grace at all. As horrible as Jackie is, being a great nurse is the only thing that she values of herself and can use to justify her selfish, shitty, deceitful behavior. I'm not sure if it's a characteristic borne of addiction or if it's simply ego or both. I believe that Jackie manipulated the elderly woman's meds not only to keep her job but her natural instinct forced her to do the right thing by the woman's health. Maybe selling the pills just made sense. Nothing excuses Jackie's behavior but it's obvious that Showtime wants her to come out on top. What's her probationary period? Three months? It'll fly by and she'll have her license back before the last episode. Eddie will probably go down though. 3 Link to comment
Blakeston April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Pretty pathetic that Jackie sold that frame and didn't even take out the photo of Nana first. I assumed she took the photo out before she sold the frame. But because the frame was gone, she didn't have the photo on display anymore. All of this makes me wonder if we've ever heard anything about Jackie's family, other than Kevin and the girls. Was she an only child whose parents are both dead? Did she cut off all ties with her family? If she had any family alive who she's in touch with, you'd think she'd have hit them up by now for money, if nothing else. Actually, I'm wondering if he's traded one wife with addiction issues for a new wife with different addiction issues (spending). If so, then I'd say she's bringing out spending issues in him, too - considering the Rolex. 2 Link to comment
LuciaMia April 20, 2015 Share April 20, 2015 Wondering how Jackie's gonna make it on a salary cut by 2/3's. Only three months, but still. Wonder if Zoey will offer her a loan Link to comment
Cosmocrush April 21, 2015 Share April 21, 2015 Eddie is an idiot. That's apparently going to be my comment on every episode this season. Any speculation about Gloria being in on Jackie's little show was put to rest for me tonight. Jackie may have lured Gloria into berating her last week but Gloria was not in on the play. She's hurt just like Zoey. I kind of wish it had turned out the whole fight last week between Gloria and Jackie had been staged because that, too, sort of makes Gloria look like she's in the wrong for making a scene like that. The only people who weren't thrown under the bus were Jackie and Eddie - which also happen to be the two people who have done the most wrong. Yep, last week I was SURE that Gloria's OTT rant to Jackie was part a plan but now we know she was just that outraged and hurt. Even after all these years, this is the actually the first time I'm not rooting for Jackie; she seems to have no bottom. I guess losing her nursing license might be rock bottom but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. At least her sobriety seems to be sticking. Ironically, I've always suspected Kevin was a dirtbag and this week he confirmed it for me. 1 Link to comment
dangwoodchucks April 21, 2015 Share April 21, 2015 I assumed she took the photo out before she sold the frame. But because the frame was gone, she didn't have the photo on display anymore. All of this makes me wonder if we've ever heard anything about Jackie's family, other than Kevin and the girls. Was she an only child whose parents are both dead? Did she cut off all ties with her family? If she had any family alive who she's in touch with, you'd think she'd have hit them up by now for money, if nothing else. If so, then I'd say she's bringing out spending issues in him, too - considering the Rolex. My mistake on Nana's photo, I thought it was still in the frame. That's a good question about Jackie's family. I don't recall ever seeing any family members, and also don't recall if we know how or why Jackie's addiction began. Link to comment
LuciaMia April 21, 2015 Share April 21, 2015 and also don't recall if we know how or why Jackie's addiction began. In the very first episode, Jackie makes a joke about "What do you call a nurse with a bad back? Unemployed." So the back pain and the pain pills may have been legit at the beginning, but like so many others , it mushroomed up from that. 1 Link to comment
DrivingSideways April 21, 2015 Share April 21, 2015 This is a dark season, I don't think it is going to end with a redemption. I've always thought Edie Falco has no connection with her TV fam - I don't know if it's bad writing (a lot of Kevin and the kid's dialogue has been awful, and Jackie always talks to the kids like they are special needs toddlers), or bad chemistry, but Jackie's home life has always been a weak point for me. I'm fine with it now that I see it falling apart along with her work life. She may be hitting rock bottom, but Edie Falco has never looked hotter than she has this season. And kudos to her and the writers for going there and making her downright unlikeable. 2 Link to comment
rubinia April 21, 2015 Share April 21, 2015 She may be hitting rock bottom, but Edie Falco has never looked hotter than she has this season. She does look great this season, but the opening credits remind me how much I like that pixie hair cut on her. 5 Link to comment
iMonrey April 21, 2015 Share April 21, 2015 I would like to know the status of her arrest. Wasn't she charged with drug trafficking? And certainly DUI. Is she out on bail and still due back in court for a hearing or have they already had one and she's just on probation or something? Gloria said her nursing license had been "suspended" for 3 months. That seems to indicate all she got for her crimes were three months probation, and that seems awfully insignificant. If Eddie managed to cover for the drugs we need to know more about that. 1 Link to comment
fliptopbox April 21, 2015 Share April 21, 2015 Well in the first episode we saw Eddie forging some kind of documentation with Akalitus' signature so I assume he took care of covering for all the pills Jackie had on her, but besides Jackie's chats with the public defender and that Barry guy there haven't been any court scenes. So really, we don't know what's happened yet. The 90 day probation could just be preliminary from the nursing board, while they investigate. Or it could be that diversion thing Jackie was offered from last season. I dunno. This particular episode felt like a throw-away and I'll bet we never see that sweet, overmedicated old lady ever again. And I'm sure we'll be seeing plenty more of that idiot dealer dude. Link to comment
marceline April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 (edited) I agree it wasn't nice for Thor and Zoe to chime in with Coop and the blonde, I balked when Eddie got all self righteous and said that Jackie never did anything to them. Besides lie to their faces? Right?! Not just lie, she made Zoey complicit in a crime by using the pic Zoey took of the nun for her fake ID. She used Roman's DEA number to call in her drugs. I'm sure she's done equally awful things to Coop and Thor but I don't want to do the research. Eddie is screwing over Akalitus by falsifying reports so he needs to STFU on trying to shame anyone. Edited April 22, 2015 by marceline 8 Link to comment
albaniantv April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 I'm still missing best friend, Eve Best, who left for London to have her baby at home. That's why, IMHO, Jackie has to fall back on Eddie for all advice, support etc. Although now that she can see the daughters, they might help Jackie emotionally with why she has to get straight for good. Basically, she's used up all her "credit" with work and family and this is it. Gloria might change her mind and be supportive if she sees Jackie really taking this last chance seriously. But this all sounds pretty boring--will be interesting to see where the humor comes from! 1 Link to comment
Fisher King April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 That's a good question about Jackie's family. I don't recall ever seeing any family members, and also don't recall if we know how or why Jackie's addiction began. I'm pretty sure Jackie admitted to Charlie - or in group session - that the pills began with a back problem. Wasn't Jackie's father in a couple of episodes some time back? It's vague but I think I recall that he had called the hospital for Jackie, Zoey gave her the message. Jackie wanted nothing to do with him but Zoey convinced her to finally see him. Am I imagining this? 1 Link to comment
Dobian April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 I didn't get her lawyer's argument that there wasn't a shred of proof about her drug abuse? Wasn't she on mandatory drug testing at the hospital before? Hadn't she she admitted her drug use before, did I miss something? Jackie certainly shouldn't come out on top at the end of this, she doesn't deserve to. And if her coming out ahead means throwing Akalitus under the bus I will curse this show after it's over. Link to comment
LuciaMia April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 Wasn't Jackie's father in a couple of episodes some time back? There was an episode where he sent her flowers on her birthday and she spent most of the day trying to get rid of them. You got the feeling they weren't on good terms. 2 Link to comment
Blakeston April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 (edited) I would like to know the status of her arrest. Wasn't she charged with drug trafficking? And certainly DUI. Is she out on bail and still due back in court for a hearing or have they already had one and she's just on probation or something? Gloria said her nursing license had been "suspended" for 3 months. That seems to indicate all she got for her crimes were three months probation, and that seems awfully insignificant. If Eddie managed to cover for the drugs we need to know more about that. When we were told that Jackie's nursing license was suspended, it was before she had any opportunity to go to court, or work things out with prosecutors. The suspension is either an immediate response to her arrest, or it's the result of her walking out of the hospital at the end of last season without taking the drug test. Does Akalitus know about Jackie going to jail? If she doesn't know about that, but she knows that Jackie's license has been suspended, then I guess the suspension is due to Jackie's failure to take the drug test. So far as we know, the only thing that's happened with Jackie's criminal case is that she was released on bail. So presumably she's still facing the DUI charge, and the drug trafficking charge. I didn't get her lawyer's argument that there wasn't a shred of proof about her drug abuse? Wasn't she on mandatory drug testing at the hospital before? Hadn't she she admitted her drug use before, did I miss something? There was mandatory drug testing for some (if not all) employees at the end of season 3, after some pain drugs went missing. Akalitus knew that Jackie was likely to fail, so she ended up throwing out Jackie's urine sample. Then Jackie went to rehab the next season, and told her coworkers that she was going to Disneyworld or Disneyland. Her drug problems were eventually revealed, but I don't recall her taking a drug test at the hospital afterward (although I could be wrong about that.) So far as I remember, it wasn't until the end of last season that she faced any official repercussions from the hospital regarding her drug use. Edited April 23, 2015 by Blakeston 1 Link to comment
Dobian April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 I don't see how Jackie can beat the rap on the drug arrest. She has no evidence of arranging anything with the hurricane relief group or whatever to bring them a pile of drugs. In order to bring them a pile of drugs, there would have to be documentation at the hospital about the reason for all these drugs, not just some receipts at the pharmacy. There would be emails with the relief organization, formal letters, requests for drugs, etc. On close inspection, Eddie's forgeries will be shown to be fake. Link to comment
40Love April 23, 2015 Share April 23, 2015 Right?! Not just lie, she made Zoey complicit in a crime by using the pic Zoey took of the nun for her fake ID. She used Roman's DEA number to call in her drugs. I'm sure she's done equally awful things to Coop and Thor but I don't want to do the research. Eddie is screwing over Akalitus by falsifying reports so he needs to STFU on trying to shame anyone. Well..he is kind of stupid, crazy in love with Jackie (despite all the nonsense she's pulled him into). He considers her a good friend. So it's really more about loyalty. Sure she's lied to Zoe and Thor's faces. But, they're supposed to be her friends. They can be mad her... keep their distance... even end the friendship. But making jokes about her with those two heartless, self-centered ass hole doctors was mean and IMO out of character, especially for Zoe. I am insanely loyal to my friends. Even when they're wrong. I might privately read them the riot act. But I'd never side with or join someone making fun of them or mocking them like that in public. So I get Eddie's indignation. He was just sticking up for his friend. 6 Link to comment
A Boston Gal April 23, 2015 Share April 23, 2015 (edited) Yay for getting to see Leslie Uggams! strut her stuff down the church aisle. And even though last week's previews were a complete misdirection (Daughter fires Jackie because of stolen drugs?), and Jackie gets to save the elderly as well as undeservedly shine, I am able to forgive the writers a teeny tiny bit because of this. Yes, I'm old and unexpectedly seeing childhood icons still able to get work makes me smile. Edited April 23, 2015 by A Boston Gal 6 Link to comment
Dobian April 24, 2015 Share April 24, 2015 Yay for getting to see Leslie Uggams! strut her stuff down the church aisle. Wow, I didn't even know that was Leslie Uggams. I guess I never watched anything she was on in her later years. Kizzy! And I remember her being a ubiquitous presence on 70s game shows when I was growing up. 1 Link to comment
Fisher King April 24, 2015 Share April 24, 2015 (edited) Wow! I didn't recognize LU either. Good eye, Boston Gal, ( and whoever else recognized her) ! Edited April 24, 2015 by Fisher King 2 Link to comment
flutist4fun May 24, 2015 Share May 24, 2015 Just catching up on S7 now and I'm surprised to hear people calling Kevin a dick. I've never liked him, but I understand his behaviour. Jackie betrayed him over and over, and I'm sure he feels justified in screwing her over now with the second mortgage. It's not right, of course, but being betrayed by the person you love makes you crazy with hurt and anger. I totally see where he's coming from. Same with her "friends" at work. They know they've been lied to and betrayed, especially Zoey. Laughing at Jackie is just a way of blowing off a little steam, getting some of the anger out. I think also that the show is saying, this is the mess an addict makes in life: Everybody gets pulled down because of the lies and the muck. Edie Falco is great, but yes, Jackie is a force of chaos and destruction--actually, a hurricane! 2 Link to comment
SororitySue March 23, 2016 Share March 23, 2016 I liked the scene where Jackie called out Kevin on the mortgages. She's a junkie and a liar, but she still has rights and Kevin violated them. He deserved it. Link to comment
Duke2801 April 5, 2017 Share April 5, 2017 On 4/21/2015 at 10:06 AM, dangwoodchucks said: My mistake on Nana's photo, I thought it was still in the frame. That's a good question about Jackie's family. I don't recall ever seeing any family members, and also don't recall if we know how or why Jackie's addiction began. She first said (in the group rehab) that the pill addiction began with a bad back. But then, after the drug counselor called her on her BS, she admitted that her addiction began after Grace was born. Grace cried nonstop as a baby and they got no sleep. She started with the pills to be able to function during the day. No we never saw any of Jackie's family members. Only mention was of her father when he sent her flowers on her birthday and she kept trying to throw them out. There were some lines throughout the episode that alluded to the fact that her whole family was fucked up. Lastly, yes, I realize I am responding to this 2 years later... Just recently binged the whole series. 3 Link to comment
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