ethalfrida March 18, 2015 Share March 18, 2015 I'm sensing some internalized self-hate coming from Davina. The first red flag was her insistence of white men only. The second, even though she's non-practicing Sikh, she won't consider anyone with an Eastern religion. This! Self hatred never bodes well for a relationship and is very unhealthy for the loather. It really says, about her, that she doesn't like being brown and will live her life vicariously as White through her mate. She insisted on a White mate which means she is also very closed off. She is also the only one I remember, lol, so will have to re-watch to get a better understanding of the players. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-940841
Mom2twoNonna2-3 March 18, 2015 Share March 18, 2015 You are all right. I just knew the nurse was with Davina, the Real estate guy with Jaclyn and the business owner with Jessica. For some reason, their names are confusing to me. But, it's not important enough for me to watch that trainwreck from last night again. I could barely stay awake through the first watching. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-940931
Bandolero March 18, 2015 Share March 18, 2015 (edited) Re: Sean being bullied. It is not always about being overweight. He probably was the weak looking skinny kid. Some kids prey on any perceived weakness. It's sad. Yeah... it is really annoying how much they dragged the show out. It is definitely a turn-off. Way too much commentary and unnecessary filler. Edited March 18, 2015 by Bandolero 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-940972
CindyBee March 18, 2015 Share March 18, 2015 If you can find a link to that information, I'd love to see it. I'm super surprised the show would pick someone with ties to the original participants. That just seems to be asking for trouble. FWIW, he's not listed as a friend of Doug's on FB but he is friends with Jason and Cortney. I just watched the matchmaking special on FYI while on the treadmill and during Sean's bit, he admits that he grew up with Doug and seeing him on the show and be happy with Jamie is why he applied. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-940980
Bellalisa March 18, 2015 Share March 18, 2015 Is jaclyn supposed to move in with his mom and niece? I mean if he gets his own place with her, then he is basically abandoning the niece. He IS her father, her father figure, her parent. You can still be a parent and live elsewhere alla all the divorced parents out there, but this might be pretty traumatizing for this girl, having him move out after what she has been through. I can't wait for Jaclyn's reaction when she finds out he lives with his mother and his niece. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-940996
absolutelyido March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) I just watched the matchmaking special on FYI while on the treadmill and during Sean's bit, he admits that he grew up with Doug and seeing him on the show and be happy with Jamie is why he applied. I follow Doug on Facebook & Twitter and he is friends with Tim Varrichio who is Sean's younger brother. At some point, Doug posted that he became an ordained minister because his friend Tim and fiance wanted to have a friend perform their wedding (I believe Doug referred to Tim as his best friend). If you go to Doug's Facebook page, a couple of days ago he posted a picture from his and Jamie's wedding and Tim is the second groomsman. Tim was Sean's best man in the episode last night. On MAFS-1st year, Doug celebrated his 32nd birthday in October. Sean is 35, so a couple years older than Doug. Anyway, I think Doug would best be described as Sean's brother's friend. Edited March 19, 2015 by absolutelyido 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-941374
cardigirl March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I just watched the matchmaking special on FYI while on the treadmill and during Sean's bit, he admits that he grew up with Doug and seeing him on the show and be happy with Jamie is why he applied. Thanks!!! I'll rewatch that. I admit I wasn't paying the closest of attention. ;) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-941384
MsPH March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Jaclyn is making Jamie look good. I think Ryan R is cute and seems like a total sweetheart. Yes, the accent is a bit annoying, but hardly the biggest issue when it comes to marriage with a stranger. He came off as the most genuine out of the whole lot and I'm bummed that he's stuck with a bitch now. I actually thought Jaclyn had a really nice smile, but it doesn't seem authentic now that she showed her true colours. I felt really bad for Ryan, since he totally noticed she wasn't feeling it. I have a massive girl crush on Davina. She's so gorgeous! That hair! She clearly has some issues too though. They kept mentioning her being bullied because of her ethnicity and then she was acting kind of racist towards her own background. That can't be healthy. Not saying she should date anyone she doesn't want to date, but the way she said those things gave me pause. And she sounds quite picky in other ways too. Sean seems nice, but I'm not sure he's as over his player days as he claims. I sensed some pride in there when he was talking about them, even though he was expressing regret. I thought Jessica's piercing was a mole too! I wondered if she got it removed, since it kept disappearing. She's pretty, but wears way too much makeup, and those eyebrows are bad. I like her, but the constant tears are gonna get old soon. I don't know if Ryan D will like her or not, but I sure wasn't buying what he was selling either. Maybe I'm just prejudiced, since he looks like a player, but he just seemed fake to me. The episode dragged on and on. I swear the brides were standing outside the door for the last 15 minutes. Way too much filler. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-941648
sleekandchic March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) Well, knowing that Sean is friends with last season's Doug and his brother confirms to me that this super duper CIA/FBI-worthy testing and matching are not completely legit. What are the chances that with 7,000 applicants, one guy would be chosen who is close friends with a guy from last season? Additionally, Jessica Castro was one of the finalists chosen in Season One, but she didnt make the final six. I remember Dr C really liking Jessica and expressing disappointment that they couldn't use her last season. So, again, I think it's another calculated move to have Jessica on this time around. The experts make a huge deal out of their objective and blind-matchmaking skills, but it seems to me that a decision was made upfront to include both Jessica and Sean, and so they matched them with whomever they thought best in the pool. If there weren't any ppl who were truly good matches for them, the experts just didn't care. They forced the pieces to fit. It's basically what they did with Jamie Otis. Somebody in production knew her from The Bachelor etc, and wanted her on the show no matter what, in my opinion. It's not a deal breaker for me, but it makes me distrustful of the process. They should be honest and add a little asterisk to say "*for dramatic purposes, only." Edited March 19, 2015 by sleekandchic 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-941973
ramble March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Ryan R. (who I remember as Ryan the Realtor) caused me to have an instant reaction of dislike & distrust. I can't identify why & since so many of you got a good guy vibe from him I find it even stranger. My immediate thought regarding him was 15 minute seeker with a dash of what the hell thrown in. Jaclyn is so intensely on that I grew tired watching her. I wasn't surprised she wasn't attracted to her Ryan, I found him bland & I predict she will not be at all impressed with his mother & deep family connection. (I found her mom to be so pretty.) Jessica & Ryan Hair Gel just seem destined to crash & burn. I can envision a lot of heat that flames out quickly without leaving anything to build on, but hey, what do I know. Didn't she say something about being at the right place in her career for this? Wasn't her career listed as receptionist? Ok then. Add me to those who thought Jessica had a mole not a piercing. I thought maybe the show felt nostalgic over S1 & made sure to cast to include a facial mole. I have a bit of a crush on Sean, the non-Ryan. I think he's kind of hot. He also seems more together than the other guys, which could totally be editing, but I like it. Davina is georgeous & seems driven not only to succeed in life but in this relationship experiment. (I just can't use the stupid social experiment label.) I'm the most interested in them at the moment. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-942494
CindyBee March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Ryan R. (who I remember as Ryan the Realtor) caused me to have an instant reaction of dislike & distrust. I can't identify why & since so many of you got a good guy vibe from him I find it even stranger. My immediate thought regarding him was 15 minute seeker with a dash of what the hell thrown in. Jaclyn is so intensely on that I grew tired watching her. I wasn't surprised she wasn't attracted to her Ryan, I found him bland & I predict she will not be at all impressed with his mother & deep family connection. (I found her mom to be so pretty.) My biggest red flag with Ryan R is that he admitted that he likes going to casinos. I have no idea if that means he has a gambling problem but I had a promising relationship end due to the fact that the guy loved his bookie more than me, so I'm always very wary of guys that love to gamble. Will be interesting to see if that comes up during the filming of the show. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-942870
Nancybeth March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I thought it was awfully convenient that they conducted a "nationwide" search and ended up with 6 participants that all apparently live in the NY/NJ area. I mean, it would almost HAVE to be that way -- let's say they had someone from California that they really wanted to match with a New Yorker. One of them would have to give up a job (even just temporarily) and relocate across the country which would definitely "affect" the outcome of the relationship, you know. That's a lot of pressure. That being said, I think it would be interesting if they picked a different metro area for next season -- DC, LA, Chicago, etc. Or even had couples living in different cities. It would add a new dynamic. I kept getting confused because Ryan R.'s brother looked a LOT like Ryan D. Jaclyn probably would have liked the brother better. There's something a little off about Ryan R...not sure if it's the teeth, the hair, the voice or some combination thereof. I'm putting $ down now that Sean and Davina will be the most successful couple. I don't think it will be EASY for them, but I think they have potential. Did the experts talk this much last season about race and religion? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-942890
CindyBee March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 Did the experts talk this much last season about race and religion? I don't remember but I think they got some flak for putting Vaughn and Monet together to make sure they had one minority couple and we all know how that worked out. Notice in the matchmaking special they went through all the African-American girls for that one guy and realized that NONE were going to be a match for him cause he was a free spirit and the ladies all wanted a successful man. I do think both Sean and Jessica are ringers and agree that they were going to be cast no matter what. Sean for his connection to the Hehners and Jessica cause she's a wannabe actress and will bring the TEARS and drama to make sure she gets lots of camera time. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-943033
Bellalisa March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) Well, knowing that Sean is friends with last season's Doug and his brother confirms to me that this super duper CIA/FBI-worthy testing and matching are not completely legit. What are the chances that with 7,000 applicants, one guy would be chosen who is close friends with a guy from last season? Additionally, Jessica Castro was one of the finalists chosen in Season One, but she didnt make the final six. I remember Dr C really liking Jessica and expressing disappointment that they couldn't use her last season. So, again, I think it's another calculated move to have Jessica on this time around. The experts make a huge deal out of their objective and blind-matchmaking skills, but it seems to me that a decision was made upfront to include both Jessica and Sean, and so they matched them with whomever they thought best in the pool. If there weren't any ppl who were truly good matches for them, the experts just didn't care. They forced the pieces to fit. It's basically what they did with Jamie Otis. Somebody in production knew her from The Bachelor etc, and wanted her on the show no matter what, in my opinion. It's not a deal breaker for me, but it makes me distrustful of the process. They should be honest and add a little asterisk to say "*for dramatic purposes, only." I agree completely that they wanted those 2 on the show. Also one of the biggest requirements, one that they never mention, is they need to be good on TV- that is, well spoken, look good on camera, more or less attractive. Note the people they pick for Survivor, the Bachelor and these types of shows vs. who is on Hells Kitchen. Hells Kitchen is the only show that casts pretty average man-on-the-street. Most reality shows need types that are going to film well and have a certain camera charisma. The average person doesn't pass this test- my features fade on TV, I look too average, I have back rolls, and I don't speak clearly enough. Yall would HATE me. Any couple really in the pool to be chosen for the top 6 also needs this TV charisma quality. On top of that, I wonder about the "attractiveness matching" - if they do it. You can't pair a 9 with a 3. Who determines if they are a match looks-wise? The spiritual guy? They should have average people rate the applicants on a scale of 1-10. I mean I guess Dr. Pepper thought Ryan R was a 9 for Jacklyn who thinks she is a 9, but he is actually only a 6. Edited March 19, 2015 by Bellalisa 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-943055
MsPH March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 On top of that, I wonder about the "attractiveness matching" - if they do it. You can't pair a 9 with a 3. Who determines if they are a match looks-wise? The spiritual guy? They should have average people rate the applicants on a scale of 1-10. I mean I guess Dr. Pepper thought Ryan R was a 9 for Jacklyn who thinks she is a 9, but he is actually only a 6. On one of the questionnaires they fill out, there are pics of other applicants and they have to rate their attractiveness. That's why it's sort of weird that they'd be paired up with people they don't find physically attractive. But I guess the experts think that as long as they're a match in other ways the attraction will come later like it did with Jamie and Doug. Or the applicants themselves overrate people in order to not seem picky and full of themselves. Who knows. I think Ryan R is more attractive than Jaclyn. She looks way older than she is. I thought she was talking to her sister at one point and it turned out to be her mother. Yikes. I wonder what she looks like without all that makeup. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-943136
qtpye March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I think Jessica's piercing is called a Monroe piercing. It is supposed to imitate Marilyn Monroe's famous beauty mark, but be more sparkly. It is not a good look on her... as I thought it was an unfortunate looking mole for the longest time. In fact, I was thinking she might want to go see a doctor for a skin cancer screening. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-943172
cpcathy March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I too am having a hard time keeping everyone straight. Don't know which Ryan that Jaclyn is with, but he doesn't seem so awful to me. Doug was homelier, frankly. Jaclyn certainly is no prize, the eyeliner is what gets me, I get that some women just don't understand their own eyebrows! To be honest, in the first half hour or so of the show, I thought they were going to set Sean up with one of the Ryans! Whoops, wrong! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-943487
sleekandchic March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 On one of the questionnaires they fill out, there are pics of other applicants and they have to rate their attractivenessAh, I find this so interesting! To me, at the least, it means that when those Essex House conference room doors open, it's possible that the bride and groom are not entirely surprised by who they see. It's possible one or both may recognize the other from the questionnaire pics. This could explain why last year's Jamie and this year's Jaclyn, maybe saw Doug and Ryan R waiting at the altar and thought, "shit! That's the guy I rated the lowest on the looks scale! What's going on here, experts!" I mean Jamie almost collapsed, and Jaclyn got openly surly. Now I wonder if their reactions were not just disappointment, but, worse, disappointment mixed with betrayal? To be honest, in the first half hour or so of the show, I thought they were going to set Sean up with one of the Ryans! Whoops, wrong!Ha, I thought the same thing! It was early on, in one of Sean's talking heads. He recited what he thought of as the best qualities a husband could have. I later realized it was the editing and taking his stream-of-consciousness out of context, but in the moment, I thought, "oh! I'm glad we're getting a gay couple this time!" Sean' s interview just sounded as though HE was looking for a husband. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-943764
cpcathy March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 And strangely, the interviews with Sean and Ryan didn't specifically say "wives" or "women," it was really super vague, like "what kind of person are you looking for." Weird. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-944012
Bellalisa March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 (edited) Also Jacklyn has a New York/New Jersey accent herself. Listen to the way she says "married"! I could see if she was from somewhere else in the US. I am originally from Long Island and I live in Atlanta - 1/2 my life in each place and She has A NEW YORK ACCENT! His is only Mildly stronger...You can really hear it when she says "married"- it's almost like in Princess Bride "maw-wage"!!! Is Jessica Latina? her accent is Latina, but they never said that she was latina. I think Jessica's piercing is called a Monroe piercing. It is supposed to imitate Marilyn Monroe's famous beauty mark, but be more sparkly. It is not a good look on her... as I thought it was an unfortunate looking mole for the longest time. In fact, I was thinking she might want to go see a doctor for a skin cancer screening. This is too much! Also Cindy Crawford has one. I think it looks horrible! I was wondering why she didn't have the mole removed? To think she did it on purpose. I don't think the Ryan they picked for her is going to find her attractive at all! In fact they look related, like brother and sister! Edited March 19, 2015 by Bellalisa Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-944312
Ohwell March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I don't like any of these people. Guess I'll wait for next season (if there is one). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-944865
cpcathy March 19, 2015 Share March 19, 2015 I'm going to put up with them, mostly because I love the sociology aspect of a show like this. I like less the reality show element, the bait and switches, the pauses of something gasp-worthy right before going to commercial. I almost wish this were some sort of PBS or HBO doc. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-945000
Bellalisa March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 The real cliff hangar is will the Mole be on her face at the wedding? She looks 100% more attractive without it. She must think it makes her look like something special so maybe she will let her husband see her fake mole at first sight..... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-945543
roamyn March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 This is too much! Also Cindy Crawford has one. I think it looks horrible! I was wondering why she didn't have the mole removed? To think she did it on purpose. I don't think the Ryan they picked for her is going to find her attractive at all! In fact they look related, like brother and sister! Cindy Crawford's IS a mole. It's her trademark. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-945575
JellyFishQueen March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 (edited) IT was just sooooo boring... How long did they stretch out the couples simply looking to get married and scared and nervous marrying a stranger? There! I did it in one sentence! Not an hour! It took me two days to finish... And all the couples blend together; at least last season you can tell them apart and their personality as well. This season...blah all the men and women look and act the same. Here hoping it gets better though with last season I only watched the first ep and waited until the season end to marathon the rest. So maybe I'll do that again? Does anyone know if these couples will do Married at first sight the first year show as well? I kinda wish they feature this show with couples from Boston. I'm going to put up with them, mostly because I love the sociology aspect of a show like this. I like less the reality show element, the bait and switches, the pauses of something gasp-worthy right before going to commercial. I almost wish this were some sort of PBS or HBO doc. Are you going to watch FYI new show arranged? It seems to be more sociology area Edited March 20, 2015 by JellyFishQueen 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-946008
candall March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 Jaclyn, baby, there was a professional makeup artist right there. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-946522
ChristmasJones March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 IT was just sooooo boring... How long did they stretch out the couples simply looking to get married and scared and nervous marrying a stranger? There! I did it in one sentence! Not an hour! It took me two days to finish... And all the couples blend together; at least last season you can tell them apart and their personality as well. This season...blah all the men and women look and act the same. Here hoping it gets better though with last season I only watched the first ep and waited until the season end to marathon the rest. So maybe I'll do that again? Does anyone know if these couples will do Married at first sight the first year show as well? I kinda wish they feature this show with couples from Boston. Are you going to watch FYI new show arranged? It seems to be more sociology area what show is this? thx! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-948206
Bellalisa March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 I don't like any of these people too much but I am fascinated with this show! I wouldn't miss it for the world. I guess Jaclyn thought she was gonna get a love story like Jason and Courtney. Who did she picture would be her husband? I am just laughing so hard and I cannot wait for the next episode. I doubt any of these couples will have sex the wedding night alla Vaugn and Monet..and didn't Jason and Courtney do it too on the first night? Maybe not that night but they did not wait long. I don't see any of these 3 couples having that kind of sexual chemistry and openess. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-948278
Gigi43 March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 Davina screams "baggage" to me. Anyone who seems to shun their own race is always fishy too me. It just screams self-hate/issues. Maybe I have a cold heart but Sean going on about being bullied... in highschool? What was that, 15, 20yrs ago and it's still a focus in his life? I feel like they're going to be such a depressing couple they may just work feeding into each others stuff... but not in a way I want to watch. I did like Ryan D. saying "those could be her kids who knows." I think both Ryan's had good attitudes at the alter. I keep mixing up Jessica and Jaclyn though. Which one's mother stood up and clapped? I liked her/that. It was a cute welcome. Over all though, this wasn't nearly as good as the first episode of the first season. Maybe too much pre-wedding stuff? I don't know, I just cared about the other couples so much more from the get-go. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-948496
zxy556575 March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 I should re-watch the casting special to be grateful for all the crazy we didn't get. I remember the BDSM guy, Asian women-liking guy, very butt-specific guy, ditzy, horse-faced blond whose friend was mocking her for the long list of physical attributes, and stoner black guy. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-950058
shopper73 March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 I am fascinated by this show, and I love to read everyone's posts. Here are a few of my thoughts. I agree with the poster that it is a red flag that Ryan R. mentioned his habit of frequenting casinos and meeting a couple of women there in the past, it does sound like it could be a big problem. Otherwise he seems very nice. I think Jacquelyn's expectations of instant attraction to a man could be the reason she has been "single" for seven years, besides the fact that she has a hard look for only 29 years old. Jessica has got to stop crying, and it was her mom who clapped approval when she saw Ryan D. at the alter - so much rests on looks, apparently! I can't believe Sean cannot meet a mate at work when he is in a predominantly young, single woman's profession, and he is attractive and put together. Dating in a hospital is not as taboo as in an office, I don't think. I am a nurse and I used to work in a hospital, but it was a while ago. I don't think his mom will be very happy when she finds out Davina is Indian, even though the sexologist "expert" is wrong, it is not an interracial marriage. Indians are Caucasians. I agree that it is a red flag that she rejects her background, but she has found a pseudo-family, which I have seen other people do in my circle. I think the biggest flaw in the thinking of the show is the experts' insistence that shared experiences, such as Sean and Davina's bullied childhood, are a big factor in a successful marriage. I don't think mutual hobbies, experiences, etc. are the key. Maybe to a friendship, but not a romance. What is the key? Maybe part of it is readiness, maturity, and openness to feeling attraction and letting your partner win you over. It wasn't just Vaughn who was difficult, but Monet was in love with her single life and not ready for marriage, in my opinion. I am interested to see how these couples do! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-950263
roamyn March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 In my senior year sociology class, I did my final on three types of marriages: interracial, inter-religious, and inter-age. The most successful was interracial, the least successful was inter-religious. Even those that aren't practicing. When the kids come, that's where problems lie. I also got the impression that Ryan Douchebag's family was still practicing. And in the Jewish faith, children's rearing follows the mother's faith. Of course that's just tradition. But if I'm right abt his family, how will that affect Jessica's relationship with her in-laws? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-950987
ChristmasJones March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 Given that all of these people live in the same general area, it makes me much more skeptical of the reasons they were chosen as matches by the "experts" - 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-951126
Neurochick March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 I'm sensing some internalized self-hate coming from Davina. The first red flag was her insistence of white men only. The second, even though she's non-practicing Sikh, she won't consider anyone with an Eastern religion. Why is she self hating? Because she wants to marry a man of another race? Maybe she just knows what she wants. Anyway, the show. I think the premise is interesting. In the beginning one of the experts commented that people have too many choices today. I thought that was interesting. Years ago, people were restricted by race, religion, geography. Now a lot of those barriers have disappeared and people have more choices than ever, maybe that has made things more difficult. I also think our eyes blind us and our ears make us deaf to other people. Jacquelyn took one look at Ryan and thought, "no" based on his looks alone. I get where she was coming from, but in reality looks fade, everybody ages, some men lose their hair, some people gain weight. I don't think anything is wrong with being a receptionist, everybody can't be a doctor, lawyer or business person. I watched some of last season and I had a strange feeling that the two black people were matched just because they were both black. Sometimes experts that aren't POC don't get that people of color have different personalities just like white people. I'll be interested to see what happens. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-951133
Bellalisa March 21, 2015 Share March 21, 2015 Apparently all the thousands of questions they answered would make them matches on more than just the bullying in childhood. Like maybe they have common political beliefs common childrearing ideas, and hobbies. Also what about their personality traits? They did mention how one of them dealt with anger and how that might be a problem..They just did not tell us any of these things. I think they limited it to people in the NYC area, so that alone does not make it suspect to me. if only 1 out of 3 of these pairs makes it, that will give this show a 50/50 chance, which I think would be no different that if you took two people of the same age, race, geographical area and threw a dart. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-951470
honeywest March 22, 2015 Share March 22, 2015 "They were both bullied as children" does not seem like a solid basis for a marriage. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-952617
ketose March 22, 2015 Share March 22, 2015 It looks like the FYI version of MAFS is 10-15 minutes longer. I will be watching the A&E version from now on. Seriously, this show is famous for filler, but the last half hour of the wedding prep was freakin' endless. Whatever "extras" are in the long version, I don't need them. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-952711
shopper73 March 22, 2015 Share March 22, 2015 Exactly.............the whole emphasis on being bullied in childhood as the thing worth mentioning for the show escapes me. Dr. Pepper said something like it would create intimacy between them. I don't see how. In the last season, the show did somehow tie in childhood difficulties to the new relationships. Maybe the show is overly based on psycological theories, and not relationship rules. I would say that marriage and relationships are not the same as therapy! Some of the individuals may benefit from therapy, but it is not the spouse's job to do it. It seems that Jamie did so well with Doug because she played hard to get, and at the very end of the first year Courtney was doing that too, and it was helping to turn things around with Jason. Monet gave in too soon sexually and there weren't real feelings there between her and Vaughn, ever. But back to this season, we'll see if the "experts" have a handle on these matches. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-953268
ketose March 22, 2015 Share March 22, 2015 It seems that Jamie did so well with Doug because she played hard to get, and at the very end of the first year Courtney was doing that too, and it was helping to turn things around with Jason. Monet gave in too soon sexually and there weren't real feelings there between her and Vaughn, ever. But back to this season, we'll see if the "experts" have a handle on these matches. That's an interesting theory, because it would support that something like the old book "The Rules" is an effective guide for women to get a man. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-953362
Adeejay March 23, 2015 Share March 23, 2015 (edited) Davina is Indian, even though the sexologist "expert" is wrong, it is not an interracial marriage. Indians are Caucasians. I live in NYC. With all due respect, the Indians I see and work with on a daily basis do not look Caucasian. Edited March 23, 2015 by Adeejay 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-954261
shopper73 March 23, 2015 Share March 23, 2015 Europeans, Indians and Arabs are all Caucasians. Italians and Swedes can look very different but still the same race. I don't think it is that important, but I just think the experts should know better if they are thinking it is worth mentioning. I think a lot of people confuse ethnicity with race. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-956235
Bellalisa March 23, 2015 Share March 23, 2015 Race is actually an arbitrary concept. Indian is not a race- she was incorrect to call it inter-racial. Indians are considered caucasian, if you agree with the concept of race. Indian is an ethnic group. It is an inter-ethnic marriage. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-956268
shopper73 March 23, 2015 Share March 23, 2015 It just bothers me that the "experts" are selling us the idea that they have an interracial couple on their show, when they are loose with the facts. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-956704
girlplease March 23, 2015 Share March 23, 2015 (edited) Hi all! New to the forum, but not to the show...so excited to get a second season of this trashy goodness! A few thoughts on the new couples: Ryan R's veneers are unfortunate, and I was definitely side-eyeing Jaclyn's 29...but I like her boisterous personality, and I think he seems like a decent guy. I don't think they're a great match for each other - my guess is that she is looking for someone a little flashier. I'll be interested to see whether he's able to unearth some vulnerability under her brash exterior. I thought Ryan D and Jessica were a good match lookswise, though I bet he thinks he's the pretty one. He seemed like Jason 2.0 to me - lots of platitudes and not much substance. I think Jessica really needs to resolve her issues with her failed engagement - she's kind of setting herself up to fail in this "experiment". Goodness. I thought Sean and Davina both needed therapy more than marriage. I'm reading Davina as tough exterior/super scared + insecure interior. She rejects people before they can reject her, thus the "pickiness". I hope I'm wrong. Sean seems too passive a match for her - I kind of feel like their insecurities will just feed off each other. I also shuddered at the key/hole metaphor and was just thankful it wasn't reversed. And as others mentioned, I am super envious of Davina's hair! tl;dr Looking forward to a fun season with y'all! Edited March 23, 2015 by girlplease 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-957403
JellyFishQueen March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Race is actually an arbitrary concept. Indian is not a race- she was incorrect to call it inter-racial. Indians are considered caucasian, if you agree with the concept of race. Indian is an ethnic group. It is an inter-ethnic marriage. see I always thought Indians were Asian :O 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-959233
realityjunkie March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Is jaclyn supposed to move in with his mom and niece? I mean if he gets his own place with her, then he is basically abandoning the niece. He IS her father, her father figure, her parent. You can still be a parent and live elsewhere alla all the divorced parents out there, but this might be pretty traumatizing for this girl, having him move out after what she has been through. I can't wait for Jaclyn's reaction when she finds out he lives with his mother and his niece. No! I think it was dr.pepper? She went to his place. I believe the niece lives with his mother , but he's a father figure because his sister and brother in law passed. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-959720
ketose March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Doesn't he have other siblings as well? I don't know if the niece is as isolated as the show implies. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-960024
CindyBee March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Doesn't he have other siblings as well? I don't know if the niece is as isolated as the show implies. Yes Ryan R has a brother--not sure if there are other siblings. I personally think the mom is more attached to him than the niece. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-960102
Adeejay March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 see I always thought Indians were Asian :O I thought so too. I just can't for the life of me image that when polled about her race, Mindy Kaling would check the box marked "Caucasian". Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-960697
shopper73 March 24, 2015 Share March 24, 2015 Caucasus mountains are north of Turkey. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/23742-s02e00-matchmaking-special-s02e01-wedding-preparations/page/2/#findComment-960915
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