Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[ginger90]

NEW and FIRST music video. 🤦‍♀️ The other videos weren’t “music”? What a confession!

[crazy8s]

1 hour ago, BradandJanet said:

The Rods also recorded once in a professional studio because someone offered it for free. Is Jill going to pay for studio time and lots of auto-tuning? Nah.

In Jill's pitch for the newest CD at a grift stop she mentions they recorded it themselves and she thinks it sounds just as good as the one they studio recorded. 😂

The comments so far

[oliviabenson]

Jill would make $ selling ear plugs during her performing at churches. Ahhhh no hearing the rodpod screech during church. You just have the visuals of Jill and kids performing for $/free food.

[BradandJanet]

I thought selling Plexus is the solution to every family's income needs. Jill has bragged about her awesome Plexus salary and all that it provides for her and the family. 

Why do the Rodlets and their mother need to sell recordings? Plexus should be enough if Jill has been telling the truth. Cough, cough. 

Should they make any money, guess who gets it all? How many bands have had acrimonious splits over money? It's a good thing the Rodlets never complain, especially Nurie. 

[Picture It. Sicily]

3 hours ago, Minivanessa said:

Yeah. An alert snarker on reddit pointed out that this harks back to an SNL skit where Kris Jenner crashed a thing with the three Kardashian sisters [her daughters] claiming to be a fourth sister. Same lame cringey stuff. 

Agree, those Temu fashions for Jesus are cr*p.

That is EXACTLY what popped into my head! Kristen Wiig as Kris! 🤣

[Madtown]

I can't imagine being my parent's pawn, to try to get them money because they are lazy assholes, that clearly can't support their family on their own. No one wants to listen to that drizzle, except Jill.

Tessie looks like she's screaming for someone to rescue her. Renee has been screaming that for years!

[Absolom]

3 hours ago, merylinkid said:

He's a married man now with a job that keeps him from being dependent on her.    To  want control and being unable to assert it is the worst thing for someone like Jill.

Plus he now has a wife and a MIL who aren't afraid of Jill, aren't cowed by her methods, and seem to both have her number and plans to counter her narcissistic maneuvers. 

[oliviabenson]

Poor Renee is now in charge of running all the chores and making jewelry and gif knows what else. Only escape is to get married. Then again look at the 2 older sisters that married. They are still Jill’s sisters and under her thumb. 

[crazy8s]

1 hour ago, oliviabenson said:

Poor Renee is now in charge of running all the chores and making jewelry and gif knows what else. Only escape is to get married. Then again look at the 2 older sisters that married. They are still Jill’s sisters and under her thumb. 

Renee also maybe be writing a book of poems. 🙄

Referencing the Mayberry pics, someone commented "Renee, you will never get your book of poems done using that old typewriter" or something close to that.

Edited September 28 by crazy8s

[Salacious Kitty]

What makes them think Renee's a poet? That wretched ode to BME? Phillip and Tim have offered up equally awful poems, yet no one suggested they compile them. 

Renee girl, you have a talent deep down there somewhere. Find it and use it as your ticket out of Rodville. 

[Notabug]

6 hours ago, crazy8s said:

In Jill's pitch for the newest CD at a grift stop she mentions they recorded it themselves and she thinks it sounds just as good as the one they studio recorded. 😂

The comments so far

In this instance, she might be correct.  There is no amount of professional recording assistance that could improve their sound because they are minimally talented hacks who were taught by their untalented mother.

It isn't so much that the new recording is as good as the professional one; it's that it is equally bad.

[crazy8s]

50 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

What makes them think Renee's a poet? That wretched ode to BME? Phillip and Tim have offered up equally awful poems, yet no one suggested they compile them. 

Renee girl, you have a talent deep down there somewhere. Find it and use it as your ticket out of Rodville. 

The comment was from someone in Jill's downline so who knows.

But can't you just hear Jill pitching a Poetry for Young Ladies book by Renee.

While our sweet Renee is enjoying this season of life, while waiting for the perfect man I choose, ummm I mean god sends to her, she enjoys helping her siblings with their schooling, organizing, cooking and currently she is writing a book of poetry for young ladies. It is available on pre order for $3.

[babyhouseman]

The Bates are fine after Helene in Tennessee and Florida. Gil's parents farm got some damage.

[oliviabenson]

Now the rod boys and Nathan wear long leggings under their shorts to swim/play baseball. I am laughing at why??? They used to wear regular shorts to swim now leggings and shorts for the men. David was not swimming in the pool. 

[Lady Edith]

So Ellen has her own team and downline.  Wasn’t she in Jill’s downline?  Does this mean Ellen jumped off the Rod wagon or is she still technically “under” Jill (shudder)?

Also, Bernice is SILVER, y’all!  Can we have some love for this paragon of Plexus?

[oliviabenson]

Did Jill get a new victim for her down line?

[libgirl2]

11 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Now the rod boys and Nathan wear long leggings under their shorts to swim/play baseball. I am laughing at why??? They used to wear regular shorts to swim now leggings and shorts for the men. David was not swimming in the pool. 

Yes, they used to just wear knee length shorts. I bet Jill made them wear the leggings to prove how they are better Christians than the rest. What is next, burkas for the girls? 

[crazy8s]

11 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Now the rod boys and Nathan wear long leggings under their shorts to swim/play baseball. I am laughing at why??? They used to wear regular shorts to swim now leggings and shorts for the men. David was not swimming in the pool. 

It seems like tights would fall under the clothing that pertaineth to women catagory by Jill's own standards.

The boys wore board shorts for swimming and boating in florida in March this year. i think even when they did the two week non vacation in florida in July the guys were wearing regular shorts.

Maybe Brianne told them she was being defrauded by their lack of standards on dress for men. 😂

[BradandJanet]

59 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Yes, they used to just wear knee length shorts. I bet Jill made them wear the leggings to prove how they are better Christians than the rest. What is next, burkas for the girls? 

Jill doesn't like the boys any more than she likes the girls. She's clamping down on her little cult in response to her hurt ego from the Teidi wedding snubs. 

As for the daughters, check the preview of Jill's new hostage video with feet music video with "the sisters." Jill's coming unglued. 

Edited September 29 by BradandJanet

[merylinkid]

11 hours ago, Lady Edith said:

So Ellen has her own team and downline.  Wasn’t she in Jill’s downline?  Does this mean Ellen jumped off the Rod wagon or is she still technically “under” Jill (shudder)?

Ellen is probably still in Jill's downline, but she can also add people who are under her.   Jill still benefits as anyone Jill adds is part of her downline, but not directly.   Its how these things work.   Jill is also under someone.    look at the picture.   Imagine the person Jill is under at the tip, then Jill is on the next line on the left.   Ellen would be on of the two directly under her, then this new person would be under Ellen.

Jill gets money from everyone under her downline, but not from everyone below the person the same level.   But her upline, gets money from them all.   All the up to the top -- the founder.   Who doesn't even have to sell Plexus anymore because she sucks in all the commissions from the entire downline.

                                                   

[mythoughtis]

14 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

Ellen is probably still in Jill's downline, but she can also add people who are under her.   Jill still benefits as anyone Jill adds is part of her downline, but not directly.   Its how these things work.   Jill is also under someone.    look at the picture.   Imagine the person Jill is under at the tip, then Jill is on the next line on the left.   Ellen would be on of the two directly under her, then this new person would be under Ellen.

Jill gets money from everyone under her downline, but not from everyone below the person the same level.   But her upline, gets money from them all.   All the up to the top -- the founder.   Who doesn't even have to sell Plexus anymore because she sucks in all the commissions from the entire downline.

                                                   

Yes. Multiline marketing - that image is what it means. Tupperware( back in the day), Pampered Chef, etc.   You become a consultant ( ambassador) under someone. That person has already signed up under someone and then recruited you.  The person who’s at the top of each chain is the person making a percentage from the sales/purchases of everyone under her/him. 

Edited September 29 by mythoughtis

[GeeGolly]

MLMs are legal versions of pyramid schemes. The very few at the top make the money and the many, many folks at the bottom lose money.

Edited to add: Jill is as the level where she's constantly enticed with praise and freebies because she is "this close" to the next level. A level she will likely never get to.

Edited September 29 by GeeGolly

[Dehumidifier]

Sunday, even a dead horse deserves a break.

Thus, I assign some homework for genealogists near and far.

It is 1846. Oneida, NY, about 100 miles east of Jill Noyes Rodrigues' birthplace of Rochester, NY. John Humphrey Noyes founds the Oneida Community, near the town. The commune has some practices and beliefs unusual for its time. Well, unusual for most times. I present two pages from Weird U.S.A. The Odyssey Continues.

Could it be that Jill is descended from this man, and that a streak of fanaticism runs in the family? Could it be that she feels guilt over her ancestor and thus has an obsession with "purity." 

Anyone on Ancestry who has run out of relatives to research and can answer this puzzle?

[Dehumidifier]

The man of the hour. Any resemblance? 

 

[CalicoKitty]

Very interesting.  FYI, the Oneida brand name was sold several years ago, and Oneida products are now made "overseas". Same for Lenox and Fenton, among a lot of others.  (Despite what QVC tries to tell you, Lenox does not make anything in the USA anymore). I don't know about dishes, but the only USA made flatware  is made at the old Oneida factory under the brand LIBERTY TABLETOP.  All other "name" brands are made somewhere else.  Liberty Tabletop has expanded over the last few years, and they have a lot of beautiful flatware patterns.  I have had mine for several years and am very happy.  I had never heard of the Noyes community before.  Thanks for that info.

[satrunrose]

Another fun fact: Charles Guiteau, future assassin of president James Garfield was an enthusiastic member of the Oneida community and follower of Noyes. Unnnnfortunately, he was so...unique... that he kept getting rejected, even in a free-love commune.

 

Edited: Oops, should have read the whole article before posting! Anyway, if they are related, maybe the "can dish it out, but can't take it" is genetic.

Edited September 29 by satrunrose

[Lady Edith]

I have heard the story of the Oneida commune but I didn’t know about the leader. I dunno, it kind of makes sense that Jill has crazy running in her family. 

If someone has the spare time to look up possible lineage, I would definitely be interested in learning more. 

[AstridM]

2 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Ellen is probably still in Jill's downline, but she can also add people who are under her.   Jill still benefits as anyone Jill adds is part of her downline, but not directly.   Its how these things work.   Jill is also under someone.    look at the picture.   Imagine the person Jill is under at the tip, then Jill is on the next line on the left.   Ellen would be on of the two directly under her, then this new person would be under Ellen.

Jill gets money from everyone under her downline, but not from everyone below the person the same level.   But her upline, gets money from them all.   All the up to the top -- the founder.   Who doesn't even have to sell Plexus anymore because she sucks in all the commissions from the entire downline.

                                                   

That’s why they call it a pyramid scheme.

[Meow Mix]

JRod, I have low vision and even I can tell you are not your daughters' sister.  Give it up.  And still laughing at hostage video with feet.

[lianau]

16 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Now the rod boys and Nathan wear long leggings under their shorts to swim/play baseball. I am laughing at why??? They used to wear regular shorts to swim now leggings and shorts for the men. David was not swimming in the pool. 

Because their legs are too sluttish. 

[CalicoKitty]

1 hour ago, Lady Edith said:

I have heard the story of the Oneida commune but I didn’t know about the leader. I dunno, it kind of makes sense that Jill has crazy running in her family. 

If someone has the spare time to look up possible lineage, I would definitely be interested in learning more. 

I did a quick Ancestry search, but all I could find is their marriage listing.  I'm guessing that her parents haven't kept up with the family tree, and I don't know the names of aunts or uncles.  There are several Noyes trees on line, but I don't know any connecting names.

 

[mythoughtis]

13 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I did a quick Ancestry search, but all I could find is their marriage listing.  I'm guessing that her parents haven't kept up with the family tree, and I don't know the names of aunts or uncles.  There are several Noyes trees on line, but I don't know any connecting names.

 

If you Google Theodore Noyes Oneida, you will find an ‘interesting’ lineage document . Basically, it appears that John believed that people named  Noyes should marry each other to keep the lineage pure.  No idea if Jill’s branch is descended from that particular branch or not.   Seems there were several Noyes families in the area. 

Edited September 29 by mythoughtis

[Dehumidifier]

The happy (?) wife.

[CalicoKitty]

If you read the Wikipedia entry, it explains a lot of the beliefs and background.  Be prepared to be stunned.  Think  Warren Jeffs, but even stranger.

[ChiCricket]

2 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

If you read the Wikipedia entry, it explains a lot of the beliefs and background.  Be prepared to be stunned.  Think  Warren Jeffs, but even stranger

 Wow.

"The community believed that Jesus had already returned in AD 70, 

making it possible for them to bring about Jesus's millennial kingdom themselves, 

and be perfect and free of sin in this world, not just in Heaven (a belief called perfectionism)."

"Women over 40 were to act as sexual "mentors" to adolescent boys,

 because these relationships had a minimal chance of conceiving."

  "Once children were weaned (usually at around the age of one), they were raised communally in the Children's Wing."

"If the (children's)
department suspected a parent and child were bonding too closely, they would enforce a period of separation,because the group wanted to stop the affection between parents and children."

[ChiCricket]

3 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

The happy (?) wife.

She died of drowning,btw.

[Natalie68]

On 9/28/2024 at 6:27 PM, oliviabenson said:

Now the rod boys and Nathan wear long leggings under their shorts to swim/play baseball. I am laughing at why??? They used to wear regular shorts to swim now leggings and shorts for the men. David was not swimming in the pool. 

So are men's leggings a thing? 

[crazy8s]

4 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

So are men's leggings a thing? 

Husband is a runner and he and all the runners in his group, wear the athletic tights for running in cold weather under shorts.

I have never seen men wear them before under regular shorts for modesty purposes. Never, ever seen a guy wearing the white ones like gabe was wearing for any reason. Black is the color of choice.

ETA - no runners wear the tights for modesty, they are just the option for cool weather in between shorts and heavier running pants. Watch any local 5k and you will see loads of people of all ages wearing the tights.

Edited September 30 by crazy8s

[Future Cat Lady]

Hey Jill, if you really want to show us how to dress modestly, you’re gonna have to ditch the makeup and bright color clothing. Look at your future DIL, that’s how you should dress.

[crazy8s]

6 minutes ago, Future Cat Lady said:

Hey Jill, if you really want to show us how to dress modestly, you’re gonna have to ditch the makeup and bright color clothing. Look at your future DIL, that’s how you should dress.

Jill does have a dilemma. Renee needs a courting partner and Tessie and Hannah will also need that in the next few years.(by fundie standards) Their options are already limited by mama's crazy. We have seen the older girls in slightly less modest clothing, going back to the layers and layers or Brianne's cos play type of dressing will only limit that further.

Jill has a grift to run and it will not look good if she has a bunch of adults she can't find suitable mates for.

I put money on Nathan never wearing tights again unless Jill he is with his MIL.

[GeeGolly]

Where were they? That slide ends in what looks like a basin of sewer water.

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Where were they? That slide ends in what looks like a basin of sewer water.

It looks like something out of a horror movie. The end being so small surrounded by concrete is really something else.Was this at a church camp? It makes me think of something out of 1960-1970 or even earlier.

[ginger90]

[crazy8s]

I think it is something the church has on their property. Both the Pastor and Jill mentioned the water slides in the sunday service while the family was on stage.

[ginger90]

3 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I think it is something the church has on their property. Both the Pastor and Jill mentioned the water slides in the sunday service while the family was on stage.

At their church or somewhere they went on “retreat “?

[crazy8s]

18 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

At their church or somewhere they went on “retreat “?

At their church.

I think most of their retreat was at the church.

Someone mentioned the church has a school and the pool the family swam in was the pool there,

The baseball field was most likely there as well.

Edited October 1 by crazy8s

[BradandJanet]

At least there don't appear to be any filters on the water slide pool that the Rodlets can clog up with their dirty denim street clothes and their long hair. 

What else could go wrong?

[mythoughtis]

59 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

At their church or somewhere they went on “retreat “?

My understanding is that they went to North Carolina for their ‘retreat’.   So I think it was at a church or church camp there. 

[ginger90]

I find this ironic. Or is my brain foggy this morning?

[skatelady]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

This gives Action Park vibes!