AmandaPanda February 18, 2015 Share February 18, 2015 Equipped with their new information about Mona, the Liars decide they need to speak to Alison. But once the truth is out there, Aria quickly learns that Mike's involvement with Mona and this new revelation could have serious repercussions for her family. Determined to keep Mike safe and get Ali out of jail, the Liars intensify their search for information on "A." Meanwhile, Spencer heads to London for an important college interview, and Alison looks to someone surprising for help with her murder trial. Promo: Link to comment
Crim February 18, 2015 Share February 18, 2015 Really? The promo is teasing us with Aria in mortal peril yet again? Nice to see Ali would still throw anyone under the bus to save herself. Please don't rush to redeem Ali the moment she was revelied as not!A, show. It was obvious she was not, so it would just be tacky. 1 Link to comment
mercfan3 February 19, 2015 Share February 19, 2015 Also...I love for the first 5 seasons it was "Emily needs to make money for college" ...and now she's entering a contest for a 20,000 dollar scholarship...for someone else. Like, I love that she's doing it for Hanna..it's just funny. (Although, I personally think they just want shots of Shay Mitchell in pretty dresses...which I'm completely fine with. And probably more dancing. Which I'm also completely fine with.) 4 Link to comment
Crim February 19, 2015 Share February 19, 2015 I worried for a second that 10 minutes might pass with Emily not meeting a hot woman, but then she really went ahead and joined that competition. Hey, maybe she will meet another chick not quite ready to come out. The show doesn't seem to be bored with variations of that yet. 4 Link to comment
ElectricBoogaloo February 24, 2015 Share February 24, 2015 (edited) Can we talk about Aria's white bondage strap accessory because WTF? And why have the makeup people decided that Ali's skin should be as orange as her jumpsuit? Two more clips: Australian promo: Canadian promo: Edited February 24, 2015 by ElectricBoogaloo Link to comment
superman1204 February 24, 2015 Share February 24, 2015 (edited) So about the scene between Aria and Mrs. H, does the whole 'giving a lawyer a dollar so you have attorney client privilege' thing actually happen? I saw it first in Breaking Bad, but there it occurred between a corrupt lawyer and two meth dealers. I always had the feeling Spencer's parents were high end defense or corporate lawyers. I really couldn't see Mrs. H trying to defend her actions with something that sleazy sounding. Edited February 24, 2015 by superman1204 Link to comment
Jack Shaftoe February 24, 2015 Share February 24, 2015 (edited) Back in seasons one and two Veronica Hastings didn't even work criminal cases. Nowadays she seems to do little else. Ah, consistency, thy name is PLL! Also, it's silly in the extreme that Veronica would be hired to defend Ali of all people. Another variation of "I defend Garret to make him keep quiet about Melissa? Try something new, please, writers! I worried for a second that 10 minutes might pass with Emily not meeting a hot woman, but then she really went ahead and joined that competition. Hey, maybe she will meet another chick not quite ready to come out. I bet one of the judges will hit on Emily. Edited February 24, 2015 by Jack Shaftoe 1 Link to comment
ottoDbusdriver February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 (edited) How do you fake your way into a Burn Unit as a patient ? Were the nurses and the doctors in that ward on the take ? And apparently all the inmates in the women's prison are being paid off by 'A' -- is there anyone in this town not on A's payroll ? So I can't take 4 oz of shampoo in my carry-on luggage without it getting pitched, but the TSA didn't find a vial of blood in the X-ray of Spencer's purse. And then that vial made it all the way to Spencer's Oxford interview without breaking, and then when it broke it spilled about a quart of blood. Or did 'A' fly to London and pay off Wren's flatmate to plant the blood vial in her purse once Spencer got there ? Wren's flatmate talking down panicky Spencer just like he would with a 1st-grader -- sounds about right. Now that Talia is bunking at Emily's house, and Emily's mom is away, they are totally going to bang. So any hopes of getting rid of Talia any time soon are gone. And Hanna can kiss her college money goodbye, as any settlement would not match the 1st prize amount. Hanna is going to be pissed. So what ever happened to Mona's bestest friend ever Leslie (that she never mentioned to anyone) that was staying at Mona's house ? Did she just go home ? ETA: How could Aria not know how attorney-client privilege works ? She's been arrested before just like all other the PLLs. Edited February 25, 2015 by ottoDbusdriver 2 Link to comment
Meedis February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 All I could think was 'please' when A or A-minion decided to disguise him/herself as a burn patient to kill Cyrus. How the hell did A-minion get past security? Link to comment
KaveDweller February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 So about the scene between Aria and Mrs. H, does the whole 'giving a lawyer a dollar so you have attorney client privilege' thing actually happen? I saw it first in Breaking Bad, but there it occurred between a corrupt lawyer and two meth dealers. I always had the feeling Spencer's parents were high end defense or corporate lawyers. I really couldn't see Mrs. H trying to defend her actions with something that sleazy sounding. I've seen it in movies where kids hire lawyers, I think both The Client and My Sister's Keeper. But that was more a case where the lawyer was doing pro bono work and the dollar was symbolic. How do you fake your way into a Burn Unit as a patient ? Were the nurses and the doctors in that ward on the take ? And apparently all the inmates in the women's prison are being paid off by 'A' -- is there anyone in this town not on A's payroll ? Maybe Rosewood is actually some twisted version of The Truman Show, where it is all a plot to mess with the girls for the entertainment of millions of viewers. It is seriously the only thing that makes sense at this point. 2 Link to comment
AmandaPanda February 25, 2015 Author Share February 25, 2015 I'm definitely not a legal expert, but I guess if money was exchanged, then Veronica could claim attorney-client privilege in order to help Aria. She could just say she reduced her rates to fit the needs of the client or something. Loved Spencer's freak out at the flat. "I'm not having a panic attack. This is just how I pack!" Troian does an awesome breakdown. I'm starting to come around to Aria and Andrew as a couple. I just really like Andrew, especially since he likes All the President's Men. That move by Talia is going to end up biting Emily in the ass eventually. Somehow, it's going to get turned around as Emily extorting the judges. I felt like this episode dragged a little bit. I'm hoping the rest of the season is going to be more eventful. I'm dying to know what Veronica saw in the folder that made her freak out about Spencer. Link to comment
racked February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 So about the scene between Aria and Mrs. H, does the whole 'giving a lawyer a dollar so you have attorney client privilege' thing actually happen? I saw it first in Breaking Bad, but there it occurred between a corrupt lawyer and two meth dealers. I always had the feeling Spencer's parents were high end defense or corporate lawyers. I really couldn't see Mrs. H trying to defend her actions with something that sleazy sounding. There's no need at all to exchange money to retain someone as a lawyer and even conversations made in an effort to determine if you want that person to represent you are privileged so long as the communciation meets the other requirements of the law. But it looks cooler to slide a dollar over. So A has an exceptional international data plan to be stalking spencer in London. Link to comment
GaT February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 So now A knows exactly what Spencer is doing in ENGLAND??? Are they hooked into the traffic webcams over there? It's just ridiculous. And A somehow has someone in the jail rolling cans (did anyone else think it was going to explode when she opened it?) into Ali's cell? And can sneak into a burn ward of a hospital? Now we've got "Varjack" to wonder about, do they even have a plot anymore? Or do they just think of random crap to shove at us, all the while running BIG A REVEAL bullshit commercials? So what ever happened to Mona's bestest friend ever Leslie (that she never mentioned to anyone) that was staying at Mona's house ? Did she just go home ? I forgot all about her, what was the point of bringing her on the show? Because we don't have enough red herrings? 3 Link to comment
hqtextbook February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I do not like Andrew. He is so aggressively following Aria around (what was he doing in her house?? in the woods around her house?? In her brothers room?), can't take no for an answer, and does not look a day under 37. Also he clearly took advantage of her vulnerable moment and went in for the kiss ew. I HATE this show for making me dislike a possible ezzzzzzra replacement, but I just cannot get on board with this creeper. 4 Link to comment
Agent Dark February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 So now A knows exactly what Spencer is doing in ENGLAND??? Are they hooked into the traffic webcams over there? "You are being watched. The Government has a secret system - a machine - that spies on you every hour of every day...". Person of Interest crossover k go. A is Samaritan. Where did Spencer go in this episode again? I wasn't quite sure... I think they could have used some more obvious hints next time. The 26minutes of the flatmate listing English slang and the 278 UK flags in the background were a little too subtle imo. They didn't even use the title as dialogue in the episode! Maybe they should go to Australia next, just so someone can text them saying "Where the bloody hell are ya?" lol at Emily - she's going from breaking up marriages to blackmailing beauty pageants. Pretty good fake-out on the "we have concerns because you are friends with a murderer. Lesbian? Who cares?" Actually, I know why Talia was that insistent on blackmailing the pageant - Emily would get so much tail if she entered, that Talia wouldn't stand a chance. 1 Link to comment
SadieT February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Another episode where basically nothing happened. Anyone else think it was odd how at ease Spencer was with staying in an apartment with a total stranger for a few days? Not even from a being stalked by A standpoint, but from a normal human being standpoint... he's still a random older dude she's never met. Loved Spencer's freak out at the flat. "I'm not having a panic attack. This is just how I pack!" Troian does an awesome breakdown. I felt like this episode dragged a little bit. I'm hoping the rest of the season is going to be more eventful. I'm dying to know what Veronica saw in the folder that made her freak out about Spencer. I loved that line, too. Gotta love a good Spencer freak out. Me too. I'm tired of having to wait several episodes for even the smallest of revelations. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I do not like Andrew. He is so aggressively following Aria around (what was he doing in her house?? in the woods around her house?? In her brothers room?), can't take no for an answer, and does not look a day under 37. Also he clearly took advantage of her vulnerable moment and went in for the kiss ew. I HATE this show for making me dislike a possible ezzzzzzra replacement, but I just cannot get on board with this creeper. I always liked the idea of Andrew and Spencer... he was sweet and smart and not all broody like Toby. But yeah, he's kind of creepy with Aria. He comes on too strong and hasn't backed down despite her turning him down a couple of times. 3 Link to comment
Crim February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 I forgive the show the lame blackmailing scene for the awesome "moral character" moment. Best in the episode for me - though I didn't particularly like the writing in this one: loads of overwriting (so many things were so, so spelled out, as if for children; and did we really need minirecaps of recent events instead of just mentioning them?) and the beats were either just too predictable (for example, Ali asking Mrs Hastings to help her was so obvious from the flow of the conversation, yet it had all those pauses that just made it cringe-worthy; Aria asking Mrs Hastings "what if it was murder?" as if she couldn't fuckin' imagine the consequences of it - more on this later) or raised eyebrows. Worst: Since Aria ended up telling Mrs Hastings that a guy was hiding information about a murder, it was completely obvious what murder this was. Then Mrs Hastings visited Ali in prison, and Ali again said that she was innocent and the Liars came to believe her. Yet Mrs Hastings acted as if she hadn't recently become aware that someone Aria knew might be hiding information about the murder. It was so wtf for me that I wondered if the scenes were written by two different people or were initially supposed to happen in a different sequence. I agree that Andrew is aggressively pursuing Aria, which is an impression I didn't get from his interactions with Spencer. But it is, sadly, pretty normal for a teenage guy - on most shows it would be nothing out of the ordinary, though not on PLL. The kiss was obviously taking advantage of the moment even though they settled on being friends just the night before, and I hope the show won't gloss over this aspect. Anyway, it's not Andrew's insistence that raises a red flag for me as much as his unusual presence and interference in plot-related situations. I see only 2 options: he is the next long-term relationship for Aria and the writers want to avoid having her S.O. isolated from the main plot again, or he is working for A to some extent. He could be, for example, the one who worked on the weights in Mike's room. Telling Aria it was no accident just spared A the effort and expense of a text message. Speaking of text messages, when the flat mate told Spencer that Wren and Melissa were out of town and hadn't told her, then Spencer immediately grabbed her phone, I thought for sure she was checking out that this information is true. But no, she was trying to contact the Liars? I can't even. 1 Link to comment
ElectricBoogaloo February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 (edited) The pageant committee is called the Glass Slipper Collective? Really? It sounds like a group of weirdo Cinderella fetishists. Am I supposed to feel sorry for Talia? Oh, no, you told your husband the truth about how you aren't in love with him and aren't attracted to him and he shockingly doesn't want to be married to you anymore? BOO HOO. She can also STFU about all the weird pageant stuff with Emily. When she said that nobody works that hard at dancing for money for a friend, I just rolled my eyes. Obviously a self centered dick like Talia who has been lying to both her husband and her high school girlfriend wouldn't know a selfless act if it punched her in the face can't possibly understand that yes, you can work really hard at something in the hopes of winning $20K for a friend who thinks she can't afford college. But for her to then say in her dead monotone voice, "It was a compliment," was so annoying. Telling someone that you don't believe what they're saying is a compliment? The longer she's on the show, the more I dislike her both as a character and an actress. She always has the same blank look on her face and the same monotone voice. When Hanna and Aria found out that Cyrus was in the burn unit, I thought maybe they were going to use one of the storylines from the books when Hanna volunteered at the burn clinic. Book spoiler: Hanna was trying to keep an eye on Graham, a guy who Aria briefly dated and was in the burn clinic after an explosion. Ali murdered one of the female patients at the burn clinic so she could pose as the girl she murdered (her face was completely wrapped in bandages) and talk to Hanna. Ali then killed Graham and left the clinic. I got kind of excited when I saw that completely bandaged body in the next bed get up and walk over to Cyrus because it was almost like the book plot! On another book note, Colin (Melissa and Wren's flatmate) is a name used in the books. Book spoiler: When the Hastings are in Florida for Christmas break, Spencer meets a tennis player named Colin. Melissa encourages Spencer to pursue him but then she goes behind Spencer's back to get a date with him. Eventually Spencer convinces Colin to dump Melissa and date her, but while she is at dinner with him he leaves the table to allegedly go to the bathroom and doesn't come back. Spencer goes looking for him and finds him in the parking lot with his wife and kid. She also learns that he is 33. She and Melissa get revenge on him by putting Viagra in his water bottle right before an important tennis match. I know it's not a unique enough name that I should assume that any of book Colin's storyline will be used for tv show Colin's storyline. So Andrew is a good student, a tutor, in a million clubs, and an amateur paramedic! Aria finds a high school boy to like but he still looks at least a decade too old for her. On a shallow note, I kind of enjoy seeing Ali all plain in jail. It's not that I mind seeing Aria with full eye makeup even in pajamas, but it's nice to see a teenage girl without a ton of eyeliner and mascara. So now A knows exactly what Spencer is doing in ENGLAND??? Are they hooked into the traffic webcams over there?"You are being watched. The Government has a secret system - a machine - that spies on you every hour of every day...". Person of Interest crossover k go. A is Samaritan. Ha, I was going to say that A is working with the Machine but it makes more sense that A is actually Samaritan. I did enjoy imagining Harold trying to deal with Ali and referring to her as Miss DiLaurentis. when the flat mate told Spencer that Wren and Melissa were out of town and hadn't told her, then Spencer immediately grabbed her phone, I thought for sure she was checking out that this information is true. But no, she was trying to contact the Liars? I can't even. I KNOW! There were so many red flags in that situation. First, you didn't even know your sister got a roommate. Secondly, you didn't know that your sister would be gone while you stayed at her place. Third, A is everywhere yet it somehow seems okay to stay with a total stranger? This is like some L&O: SVU type situation where he has murdered the current tenants and is living in their place. I mean, I don't think that's what actually happened but considering how much the PLLs have been through, you'd think that Spencer would be a bit more cautious about this entire situation and immediately text or call her sister to verify this guy's story. Hell, if I were her, I would facetime Melissa to make sure that Colin hadn't kidnapped or murdered her and had her phone so he could reply for her. Yes, this is what years of watching PLL and SVU will do to a person: TOTAL PARANOIA. Edited February 25, 2015 by ElectricBoogaloo 3 Link to comment
Chaos Theory February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 (edited) So A can break into a locked burn unit and a locked prison and the liars can't even lock their phones. Emily you are a innocent soul. It is called blackmail. Use it. Oh yeah. Living with Talia now. You move fast. Yes Aria the shit you (and your brother) have been doing is illegal and can land you all in jail. So get those dollar bills ready. You are going to need a bunch of them. Even across the pond Spencer loses her shit. But English guy was hot so....or was he creepy. I get those two confused on this show. Edited February 25, 2015 by Chaos Theory 1 Link to comment
Kaboom 2.0 February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Sigh. I miss Caleb. I did NOT miss Ezra at all. Andrew may be pursuing Aria a little too hard but hasn't he always liked her? Even Hanna pouting about Ted having the gall to need time to process what Ashley had told him wrt her cheating on him could not make me hate on Hanna. Still love her! Why is Talia still around? She's truly awful. Get rid of her and let Emily be single for a while. Every ep should have a Spencer freakout, Troian rocks them so well. 3 Link to comment
Peanut6711 February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 So now A knows exactly what Spencer is doing in ENGLAND??? Are they hooked into the traffic webcams over there? It's just ridiculous. And A somehow has someone in the jail rolling cans (did anyone else think it was going to explode when she opened it?) into Ali's cell? And can sneak into a burn ward of a hospital? Now we've got "Varjack" to wonder about, do they even have a plot anymore? Or do they just think of random crap to shove at us, all the while running BIG A REVEAL bullshit commercials? This is the conclusion I've come to as well. They are just dragging it out making the girls look stupider each week. I understood at times in the past why they didn't go to the authorities or parents but at this point I think Hannah's mom would listen; Spencer's mom is an attorney; and Toby is a freakin' officer--together they should be able to help the girls and come up with a plan of action. At this point what are they afraid A is going to do that he/she won't do anyways??? In the beginning it was 'high school' secrets they didn't want spilled but not it's like a life or death matters--time to get help. And A has become such a joke. He's like Jason Voorhes as the Friday the 13th movies progressed--nothing can stop him, nothing can kill him. I forgot all about her, what was the point of bringing her on the show? Don't feel bad. I'm sure MK forgot about her too. I'm pretty sure the show has forgotten a good 60% of what they've written. 1 Link to comment
Primetimer February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Spencer makes a bloody mess and doesn't even offer to get a towel. Read the story Link to comment
Writing Wrongs February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Nurse to Hannah: "Wear some pants next time." LOL This show is so ridiculous now. 1 Link to comment
Chaos Theory February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 (edited) Nurse to Hannah: "Wear some pants next time." LOL This show is so ridiculous now. Yes but it is a good kind of ridiculous.I realized how much I don't miss Ezra. Aria is the best when he is not gumming up the works. Edited February 25, 2015 by Chaos Theory 2 Link to comment
Artsda February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 The episodes lately seem like filler. No Caleb, Ezra, Spencer's in London with A still tracking her? Really? Link to comment
Black Knight February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 I missed Caleb. And tonight was the one night where Hanna kind of annoyed me, in regards to Ted needing some time to think over getting back with Ashley and making her wait... um, yes Hanna, he did. He wasn't going to just let himself be engaged to someone who had cheated on him. Maybe that's the adult in me who kind of got bugged there. Teenagers don't seem to understand that the world is full of greyish areas that need to be thought upon. That annoyed me too until I realized Hanna wasn't really talking about Ted at all, but about herself, and she was self-aware enough to realize that. She was criticizing herself for not going to see Ali. Melissa is even more anal-retentive than Spencer, so her not letting Spencer know she and Wren would be away and that she'd be staying with their flatmate seemed highly uncharacteristic to me. He's probably just supposed to be temporary eyecandy like 95% of the boys the PLLs encounter, but I do think there's a good chance he's the one who put the blood vial in Spencer's bag and is keeping A updated. Melissa and Wren will come home and be like, "What flatmate?" I liked seeing Ali with no visible makeup - between that and her orange jumpsuit, all the mystique is gone. I don't know how much to believe, and I'll be shocked if she's not back to some of her old ways once she's out, but it's an interesting look for her right now. And honestly I'm impressed she's sitting on her knowledge of Mike for even a nanosecond. I don't think even people who are much nicer than Ali would be willing to continue to sit in jail and go on trial for a murder they didn't commit to protect that dumbass. On the other hand, Mike did go to visit her, so maybe they've had conversations about this already and have agreed on a plan, and she just pretended to the PLLs like she didn't know. So is Emily the Aria this half of the season? Inappropriate older love interest, boring relationship, not much to do with the mystery? If so, boo. I did laugh when Hanna said Emily was popping and locking Hanna's way to college. I also laughed at the fakeout where Emily was working up a head of righteous indignation over being told to drop out and learned it wasn't about her being gay, but about her being a PLL. She should just be relieved the pageant lady didn't seem to know anything about her getting caught with a shovel, which was truly the most heinous crime Rosewood has ever seen. 2 Link to comment
mac123x February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Maybe Rosewood is actually some twisted version of The Truman Show, where it is all a plot to mess with the girls for the entertainment of millions of viewers. It is seriously the only thing that makes sense at this point. That's a common theory, and as good an explanation as any. I wonder if they'll go all meta with it: in season 18 (Graduation Day) when Uber-A is finally revealed, it'll turn out to be Marlene King as herself. She'll tell the girls that they have been part of a television show, and that they're torment has been entertainment all for the benefit of (turns to the camera) "you, the audience at home. Hope you've enjoyed the ride!" Smashcut to black. 1 Link to comment
lion10 February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 That's a common theory, and as good an explanation as any. I wonder if they'll go all meta with it: in season 18 (Graduation Day) when Uber-A is finally revealed, it'll turn out to be Marlene King as herself. She'll tell the girls that they have been part of a television show, and that they're torment has been entertainment all for the benefit of (turns to the camera) "you, the audience at home. Hope you've enjoyed the ride!" Smashcut to black. That same night, legions of tween fans stage riots across the country. 1 Link to comment
lion10 February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Talia is so creepy. Even if Emily is 18, she's a high school student and Talia has to at least be 23-24. I feel bad that her husband threw her out though. Link to comment
cuddlingcrowley February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 (edited) Where did Spencer go in this episode again? I wasn't quite sure... I think they could have used some more obvious hints next time. The 26minutes of the flatmate listing English slang and the 278 UK flags in the background were a little too subtle imo. They didn't even use the title as dialogue in the episode! Maybe they should go to Australia next, just so someone can text them saying "Where the bloody hell are ya?" LOL. I'm sure I'll find it funny in the rewatch but I spent Spencer's scenes torn between cringing and in a state of utter disbilief in regards to what I was watching. And the closest I've come to England is watching way too many BBC shows, but even I know the accents were way too exaggerated and the dialogue was horribly unrealistc. I was also torn about how I felt about Collin. He's hot and all, but the dialogue was truly horrible. Still, he gave me shades of Sebastian Roche, especially in his last scene, so I appreciated that. I'm not gonna do a detailed post about the episode because I'm very tired but can someone explain to me what the hell Talia is still doing on this show? And why Emily was hitting on her all over again even though, last episode I thought we all agreed she's the worst? What are you doing Emily?? Are you having a breakdown??? Is this what you look like having a breakdown??? So is Emily the Aria this half of the season? Inappropriate older love interest, boring relationship, not much to do with the mystery? Don't forget the random new ability. I don't even mind terribly how Emily's dancing was introduced, I'm just extremelly sick of watching it. It was cute for one episode and Hanna did a great job of distracting me from Shay's porn faces but I'm completely done at this point. I actually fast-fowarded through some of her scenes. I don't even fast-foward through Ezria!! This was a good episode for the AriA+ theory. Okay, with that said, as grumpy as I may sound, I liked the episode. Especially the Ali bits and the Mama Hastings bits. Edited February 25, 2015 by cuddlingcrowley 2 Link to comment
Jack Shaftoe February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 (edited) Did Talia actually say the line "Nobody works that hard for just the money"? Yes, Talia, nobody except millions and millions of people. And how could she know how hard Emily was working when all she did was watch her dance for like a minute? Shut up, Talia. Speaking of dances, I suggest a new rule - at least one Emily dance in an episode. I also suggest next time they use a stripper pole too. The over the top British-ness anvils reminded me of that god-awful Bones two-parter that took place in the UK and made me drop that show forever. The Liars are virtually bipolar now. First, they are all "Ali is murderer", never mind how often they have been wrong about various people being guilty and then Mike says that Cyrus told him Alibi had an alibi and suddenly they are adamant that Ali isn't a killer after all. Girls, if that college thing doesn't work out for you, I am sure you can join officer Toby in the Rosewood police, they make that kind of "logical" conclusions all the time too. Cry me a river, Ali. Treating people as if they are your slaves isn't a good thing to do, you say? Amazing discovery of the human condition, please, tell me more. Why the heck did Emily need a parent permission? I am pretty sure she is 18 now. Ashley was celebrating her engagement to Ted and yet there was no wine to be seen in that beautiful kitchen of hers? My world is all askew! Edited February 25, 2015 by Jack Shaftoe 1 Link to comment
ElectricBoogaloo February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Why the heck did Emily need a parent permission? I am pretty sure she is 18 now.If she's still underage, Talia doesn't mind so why should the pageant people? I kid, I kid. Sort of. 3 Link to comment
Crim February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 Talia is so creepy. Even if Emily is 18, she's a high school student and Talia has to at least be 23-24. I feel bad that her husband threw her out though. I would feel bad for her in almost any other situation, but not when she lied to everyone involved about almost everything. This isn't on the same level as cheating (which he claimed to be ok with) or realizing you are gay and not immediately coming out (because he knew about her attraction to women, and even about Emily, and was just in the dark about the fact that Talia had actually checked out of the marriage). Separation was the only sane option here. I only wish Emily also separated from Talia and from this entire storyline! I'm impressed she's sitting on her knowledge of Mike for even a nanosecond. I don't think even people who are much nicer than Ali would be willing to continue to sit in jail and go on trial for a murder they didn't commit to protect that dumbass. Ali might be practical: she actually has no proof, and she is known as a liar. Mike could save her, but only if he testified. Right now everyone is willing to help her again, so Ali might just want to stay on their good side as much as possible. 1 Link to comment
chelsie February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 I'm pretty sure the london eye and the big ben is not in oxford. 2 Link to comment
Jack Shaftoe February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 (edited) I still don't see how Mike testifying would change anything much - some guy comes out months after the "murder" and says the suspect couldn't have done it because another guy, who, by the by is sketchy as hell and unwilling to testify, supposedly said she has an alibi. The only thing Mike can really influence is the matter of Mona being presumed dead, but then again, even the worst lawyer in the world could have ripped apart that nonsense, so Edited February 25, 2015 by Jack Shaftoe 1 Link to comment
Chaos Theory February 25, 2015 Share February 25, 2015 (edited) I still don't see how Mike testifying would change anything much - some guy comes out months after the "murder" and says the suspect couldn't have done it because another guy, who, by the by is sketchy as hell and unwilling to testify, supposedly said she has an alibi. The only thing Mike can really influence is the matter of Mona being presumed dead, but then again, even the worst lawyer in the world could have ripped apart that nonsense, so Mike can testify to Mona framing Ali. Which is technically all Ali would need for reasonable doubt. There was never any body. Just a buttload of blood enough for anyone to assume Mona was dead. Mike has information that puts that in doubt. A conspiracy that Mona is actually still alive which means Ali didn't kill her. Edited February 25, 2015 by Chaos Theory 2 Link to comment
cuddlingcrowley February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 (edited) Anyone in search of a good laugh should check the Ezria tag on tumblr after this episode, which I did immediately after seeing the Andrew/Aria kiss. I hope this isn't against the rules but I really felt it was my duty to share this little gem and this one. It truly amazes how warped the perception of some of the kids watching this show has become that Aria cheating is easily seeing as worst than Ezra stalking and getting involved with her in order to write his book, knowing full well what her age was and while he was her teacher. Edited February 26, 2015 by cuddlingcrowley 3 Link to comment
hqtextbook February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 AMAZING. "There was the book thing, of course, but she had already assured him several times that taking a bullet for her had been enough to warrant his forgiveness." Thank you for making my day. (Actively not thinking about how sad it is that kids think this is a healthy relationship) 3 Link to comment
Mabinogia February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 How did Aria even cheat? Didn't Ezra pretty much break up with her? (I remember some scene of them blabbing something to each other and she was crying and he said something about letting her finally be her age instead of being part of some old couple) And she just kissed Andrew, not even a big make out session, just a smooch. And that is worse than purposely hooking up with her to write a tell all book about her and her friends, spying on her for years and not helping her with the crazed stalker who is threatening her and her friends? um, yeah, Ezzzzria fans terrify me. I adore Andrew. I really prefer him with Spencer, but hell, I prefer everyone with Spencer. That girl oozes chemistry. But I will take him and Aria since this is the most I've enjoyed Aria in...like...ever. Spencer was adorable at the Oxford interview and I loved her freak out. Not sure what to think about Ali. All her "repentant" behavior came after she got the dust text that "Mona told everything" so I'm not sure I'm buying it completely. I found Hanna's reaction to Ashley and Pastor Ted's engagement a bit odd. Link to comment
Law Mom February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 Right now I don't think it matters much how the vial got into Spencer's bag. Whether Colin is for real or a hired hand or a full fledged A minion, the point of the blood incident was to send the message that Spencer, and by extension all the Liars, aren't safe anywhere. That must have been such a blow, no wonder she had a panic attack. Which leads to to my current theory. It seems pretty clear at this point that A is tapped in everywhere. I am beginning to think that while once A was a person, Mona or whoever, A is now a computer program or artificial intelligence. Somewhere along the line, genius Mona wrote some kind of program to spy on the girls and pull various pranks ranging from harmless but scary (like the dolls) to threatening. The program used texts to gather minions so no one ever had to deal with MonA or any other A directly. Cyber A at first just tracked A's own surveillance, but the program was instructed to find additional sources, so it learned to tap into Ezra's network, city traffic cameras, computers, cars, etc. Somewhere along the line Cyber A got too good at its job, and now it mindlessly works to fulfill its directive to expand its reach and make the Liars' lives miserable. It has become so powerful that not even its own programmer recognizes it. All the bees buzz around but the queen isn't even real. I call this the Skynet Theory. 3 Link to comment
hqtextbook February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 "He must have done something wrong, he figures, to drive her to that kiss, so he wracks his brain." I'm dying 3 Link to comment
scarynikki12 February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 I call this the Skynet Theory. So we should expect John Connor to show up at the end? I would forgive all of my issues with the show if this turned out to be a really roundabout Terminator story. Link to comment
Agent Dark February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 Right now I don't think it matters much how the vial got into Spencer's bag. Whether Colin is for real or a hired hand or a full fledged A minion, the point of the blood incident was to send the message that Spencer, and by extension all the Liars, aren't safe anywhere. That must have been such a blow, no wonder she had a panic attack. Which leads to to my current theory. It seems pretty clear at this point that A is tapped in everywhere. I am beginning to think that while once A was a person, Mona or whoever, A is now a computer program or artificial intelligence. Somewhere along the line, genius Mona wrote some kind of program to spy on the girls and pull various pranks ranging from harmless but scary (like the dolls) to threatening. The program used texts to gather minions so no one ever had to deal with MonA or any other A directly. Cyber A at first just tracked A's own surveillance, but the program was instructed to find additional sources, so it learned to tap into Ezra's network, city traffic cameras, computers, cars, etc. Somewhere along the line Cyber A got too good at its job, and now it mindlessly works to fulfill its directive to expand its reach and make the Liars' lives miserable. It has become so powerful that not even its own programmer recognizes it. All the bees buzz around but the queen isn't even real. I call this the Skynet Theory. Like I said earlier in the thread, this is pretty much the premise behind Person of Interest. 'The Machine' is an Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) that was built for the Government to stop terrorist attacks. But luckily it is a benevolent entity, and helps it's creator stop "irrelevant" crime to ordinary citizens. But there is a rival ASI emerging called 'Samaritan', which is far more ruthless in it's goals. This is why I think a PLL/PoI crossover would be great :) Not that I wound want to impose the terribly loose plotting and characterisation of this show onto the amazing writing that Person of Interest has lol. Definitely for a fanfic. 2 Link to comment
Black Knight February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 Right now I don't think it matters much how the vial got into Spencer's bag. Whether Colin is for real or a hired hand or a full fledged A minion, the point of the blood incident was to send the message that Spencer, and by extension all the Liars, aren't safe anywhere. That must have been such a blow, no wonder she had a panic attack. And the irony is that Spencer was realizing this even as her mother was ordering her not to leave London. Clearly she thinks Spencer would be in danger of some sort if she came back to Rosewood - I'm guessing there's something in the file she read that implicates Spencer in something, so she wants Spencer across the ocean where she can't be questioned so easily by the Rosewood police. I really want one of the Liars - I have a feeling that Hanna would be the likeliest to do this - to make arrangements to go to the most remote, impassable place on the planet. Like, a tiny island that requires four flights just to get close and then renting a boat, or maybe climbing all the way up Mt. Everest. Something like that. And of course when the Liar arrives, A makes contact. So what do we think about the A tag? My theory is that it's A's way of putting a hit out on Ali: The various inmates will get their Bibles, find the $100 bill at the vengeance passage, and understand the $100 to be a down payment on the money that can be collected by whoever successfully shanks Ali. "Mona told everything" and Ali's reaction is intriguing. "Mona told everything" and that's why A murdered her? Or, A's been holding Mona captive and now Mona has told everything? Something else? If it's the second possibility, that would imply that Mona and Ali were actually in cahoots on this plan. That doesn't quite jibe with everything that we've seen onscreen, but it wouldn't be the first time for this show, and it would be a legitimately shocking twist. A turning up in the burn unit reminded me of one of the creepiest moments on this show ever, when some of the PLLs were in the morgue stealing Ali's autopsy report or something like that, and the body under a sheet on one of the slabs turned out to be A. Heh. Link to comment
mercfan3 February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 I agree with the above..Emily should always dance. In every episode. I didn't even mind Talia when Emily was dancing. I have to say..and maybe it's just because I'm an older sister...I think the move A pulled on Aria/Mike was one of his/her worst. Had Mike been the one to use that equipment, and there was no way for A to think he wouldn't have been..Mike would have been killed. A made up for not ever attacking Aria in that move..And it's even scarier because obviously it's not going to stop there. Poor Spencer. I don't really care how A does what he/she does. They'll loosely explain it (spy equipment and hiring people..) but the point is more the message. Excited for the finale. I think the show is reaching it's climax. Link to comment
superman1204 February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 So for me, there were really only three things that stood out this episode. Every time Alison is on screen the writers try to give the scene a dramatic air but it always falls flat for me, because we all know Alison is still lying and keeping secrets, so I don't get why I should care what Alison says or does. That being said I really liked the scene between Hanna and Alison. Their relationship is the only one that has changed and developed over the shows run, so I actually bought into the dramatic weight of the moment. Hopefully the writers don't go and ruin that by having Alison and Hanna be best friends by the start of season six. The scene were Talia blackmail the pageant lady really should have set off warning lights for Emily. Emily has known her for like a few weeks at the most, and in that time, Talia dated Emily without telling her she is married, lied to both Emily and her husband about the nature of the relationships she was in, and then blackmailed someone, presumable for thousands of dollars. Is Emily trying to replace Alison by finding some just as manipulative as her? Lastly, I liked when the pageant lady explained why they wanted Emily to dropout. Shay's expression of "fuck that's actually a valid reason" was funny. 2 Link to comment
ElectricBoogaloo February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 I thought it was kind of funny that Aria completely gave up on whatever piece of paper on Mike's dartboard was so fascinating. She could have had Andrew get it for her (he practically offered when he said he's a human stool). Link to comment
hqtextbook February 26, 2015 Share February 26, 2015 I thought it was kind of funny that Aria completely gave up on whatever piece of paper on Mike's dartboard was so fascinating. She could have had Andrew get it for her (he practically offered when he said he's a human stool). Yeah! what was that? Something meant to catch Aria's eye so she'd step on the trap? A coupon for tiger print clothes? Feathers? 3 Link to comment
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