S05.E11: It's Just A Scratch

[cooksdelight]

The HIPA laws prevent the hospital and their staff from revealing the truth, if she was admitted to detox from taking heavy pain meds "borrowed" from a dying ex husband or if she decided to have her boobs redone, they can not say otherwise even if her story is a lie. 

 

I think they are pretty loose in CA. I called a hospital in SoCal last week to inquire if my aunt was a patient. Why yes, she is. I asked what her current condition was. They told me everything. Never said a word about confidentiality.

[WireWrap]

I think they are pretty loose in CA. I called a hospital in SoCal last week to inquire if my aunt was a patient. Why yes, she is. I asked what her current condition was. They told me everything. Never said a word about confidentiality.

Your Aunt could sue them if she wanted to. I am sure that which ever hospital Kim was in, they will not reveal why she was there even if what she, Kim, is saying is untrue.

[walnutqueen]

I think they are pretty loose in CA. I called a hospital in SoCal last week to inquire if my aunt was a patient. Why yes, she is. I asked what her current condition was. They told me everything. Never said a word about confidentiality.

 

It wasn't a San Diego hospital, was it?  Just so I can avoid it!  :-)

[cooksdelight]

No, L.A. area. Kim, being a VIP, I am sure the rules will be enforced to the letter.

[polodog]

Thanks to all of you for pointing out Vince staring through the window.  I didn't catch that the first around, but that was hilarious.

[grittypearl]

I am hoping the meeting between LisaV and Kyle will be the start of endgame for Brandi.

[izabella]

Also, Brandi says they hate each other and Kim is saying I love you both. Brandi is just really creepy. And she calls Kyle two faced. Hmmmm

 

That whole thing with Brandi getting between Kyle and Kim was so high school.  And I wonder if Kim has been there many times before, with Kyle and Kathy pulling from different directions and Kim all high and drunk and woe is me, "I love both of them, waaa!" 

 

I think Kim LOVES the attention, and having two people "fighting" over her.

[thebestcasey]

I think they are pretty loose in CA. I called a hospital in SoCal last week to inquire if my aunt was a patient. Why yes, she is. I asked what her current condition was. They told me everything. Never said a word about confidentiality.

They are allowed to tell if someone is a patient unless the patient has specifically said not to. They can also give vague information about condition ie fair, serious, good, etc. unless the patient has said no, otherwise, they can't give out anything else. Your aunt can definitely sue. (Source: I'm a medical compliance officer in southern California -my job is to make sure things like this don't get out)

[polodog]

The things you learn on this board.

[WireWrap]

That whole thing with Brandi getting between Kyle and Kim was so high school.  And I wonder if Kim has been there many times before, with Kyle and Kathy pulling from different directions and Kim all high and drunk and woe is me, "I love both of them, waaa!" 

 

I think Kim LOVES the attention, and having two people "fighting" over her.

ITA!!! Kim loves the attention. I am sure that Kathy babies her just like she has Paris and her drug/alcohol issues/usage. Kathy travels a lot so it is not an issue for her, Kim's addictions, like it is for Kyle. It has been left, IMO, to Kyle to care for and clean up after Kim and her children for years.  Kathy gets to fly in then hug Kim after all the real work is done by Kyle.

[LotusFlower]

The HIPA laws prevent the hospital and their staff from revealing the truth, if she was admitted to detox from taking heavy pain meds "borrowed" from a dying ex husband or if she decided to have her boobs redone, they can not say otherwise even if her story is a lie.

I didn't even mean it in that way. I guess my lame Y & R reference fell flat! I just meant it in the sense that Kim didn't have bronchitis like she claimed; I don't think she even went there to detox. I think she just needed an excuse to explain her "ornery" behavior and pill popping after Game Night, Part 2, so hey - why not a hospital stay?! And I gather that's easier to arrange than I thought. V.I.P.'s pay a lot of money...

I think they are pretty loose in CA. I called a hospital in SoCal last week to inquire if my aunt was a patient. Why yes, she is. I asked what her current condition was. They told me everything. Never said a word about confidentiality.

Remember an Australian DJ called the hospital where Kate Middleton was in pretending to be the Queen? They not only got a lot of information on the sick, pregnant Duchess and the next-in-line, but it was broadcast! I know it's a different country, but still....

[zoeysmom]

I didn't even mean it in that way. I guess my lame Y & R reference fell flat! I just meant it in the sense that Kim didn't have bronchitis like she claimed; I don't think she even went there to detox. I think she just needed an excuse to explain her "ornery" behavior and pill popping after Game Night, Part 2, so hey - why not a hospital stay?! And I gather that's easier to arrange than I thought. V.I.P.'s pay a lot of money...

Remember an Australian DJ called the hospital where Kate Middleton was in pretending to be the Queen? They not only got a lot of information on the sick, pregnant Duchess and the next-in-line, but it was broadcast! I know it's a different country, but still....

In the old days celebrities would be hospitalized for 'exaustion'.  I think the exhaustion was probably just as apt a diagnosis for the patient as the ones in charge of caring for them.

 

Sadly, the poor nurse who fell for the radio gag committed suicide. http://www.upi.com/blog/2012/12/07/Pranked-hospital-nurse-commits-suicide-radio-DJs-off-air/9241354891718/

[LotusFlower]

In the old days celebrities would be hospitalized for 'exaustion'.  I think the exhaustion was probably just as apt a diagnosis for the patient as the ones in charge of caring for them.

 

They still are (using the exhaustion excuse).

Re: the nurse who committed suicide - yes, that was sad and pretty weird. But it wasn't the nurse who spoke to the "Queen" on air, but rather the nurse/receptionist who first took the call and transferred it over to the appropriate floor. I thought that changed the story a bit. (Those DJ's got slammed for the prank).

[WireWrap]

I didn't even mean it in that way. I guess my lame Y & R reference fell flat! I just meant it in the sense that Kim didn't have bronchitis like she claimed; I don't think she even went there to detox. I think she just needed an excuse to explain her "ornery" behavior and pill popping after Game Night, Part 2, so hey - why not a hospital stay?! And I gather that's easier to arrange than I thought. V.I.P.'s pay a lot of money...

Remember an Australian DJ called the hospital where Kate Middleton was in pretending to be the Queen? They not only got a lot of information on the sick, pregnant Duchess and the next-in-line, but it was broadcast! I know it's a different country, but still....

I missed it, it was not you! LOL

[GreatKazu]

Re: the nurse who committed suicide - yes, that was sad and pretty weird. But it wasn't the nurse who spoke to the "Queen" on air, but rather the nurse/receptionist who first took the call and transferred it over to the appropriate floor

Exactly. The nurse was told it was "The Queen" on the phone, and therefore, gave all the info. That is different than someone calling a hospital and gathering all kinds of information about a patient. In that instance, the receptionist assumed it was the queen and it went from there.

 

Reading the question about how does Kim get a hospital to cooperate, made me think of Tori Spelling as well. If you have the money, the hospital has the means to take you in.

Edited January 26, 2015 by GreatKazu

[breezy424]

Brandi believes the show should be all about her because she is the wittiest, and the prettiest, and the best mom, and the best friend, and the best sister, and the best daughter, and the best model, and the best cook, and a far better wife than any of them.  Brandi feels she drives the show and if she tries hard enough she can get those she doesn't like FIRED-like Adrienne.  With all her talent it will become a one woman show where she will cycle her BFFs through and they can sit around all day and talk about how fabulous Brandi is and jealous LeAnn and Eddie are of her. 

 

Brandi is very calculating and writes scripts in her head of what she thinks are shocking or funny one liners-like the one about Lisa having a sore tail bone because of anal sex.  See it didn't work in real life but Brandi's BFFs would be rolling.  BTW ain't no way Kim is invited on the Brandi show.

Yeah, I agree.  I guess I wonder what the drive is underneath this.  Her parents said to Lisa V that's she's always has had this explosive type of temper (or something to that effect) and then she's 'sorry'.  I wonder what the relationship is with 'her' sister, the one she told the world was molested.  Hm.  Maybe that's part of the reason she's trying to break up Kyle and Kim.  Ok.  That's a stretch.  But she's so F upped I sometimes you can't help but wonder.

 

Funny.  I think Kim can salvage her life.  I see Brandi on a downward spiral that could end up much worse than Kim.  Especially if they decide to get rid of her or reduce her to a friend next season.  Any other reality show she could go on would be a downgrade and she's not going to handle it well.  Sad.

[Leroux]

That whole thing with Brandi getting between Kyle and Kim was so high school.  And I wonder if Kim has been there many times before, with Kyle and Kathy pulling from different directions and Kim all high and drunk and woe is me, "I love both of them, waaa!" 

 

I think Kim LOVES the attention, and having two people "fighting" over her.

 

100% she loves it , it gives her validation. Season 3 wasn't she so proud and smirking when her BF Ken the bullmastiff would go toe to toe with Kyle and let her know that they didn't care about her concerns to their shenanigans? Ken was just another addict like Kim and also enabled Kim , he also went against Kyle and Kim fully enjoyed it, you could see it in her face.

 

I am sure that Kyle was blasted by her big sister Kathy when she exposed Kim's alcoholism, Kathy was not concerned one bit about Kim being an alcoholic but about everybody knowing about it, I am sure Kyle got a lot of flack from it and the fact that about the same time Mauricio decided to open his own firm and leave the Hilton's might have to do with it as well. It is obvious that Kathy and Kim are much closer than Kathy and Kyle, like somebody else pointed uptread Kathy swoops twice a year and can afford to be the "good cop" while Kyle has been left with no other option than being the "bad cop" , Kim knows that Kyle regrets what happened in that limo and will not do it again and she is pushing and pushing, acting like an awful drunk but daring Kyle to even say a word about it.

 

Kim IMO loves her sister but also hates Kyle's life, she wants all that Kyle has and that gives her more will to constantly play a guilt trip on her sister. Kim acts like a spoiled brat child who takes great pleasure is rub her misbehavior in your face and almost dares you to "what are you going to do about it?" because she knows your hands are tied.

 

Kim's brain are so toasted that she doesn't seem to grasp that her own life is at stake here, one overdose might be all it takes, but I can surely imagine Kim as Julia Robert's sister, she will leave a nice letter blaming all her issues on her sister and making sure than nobody ever forgets that her sister was her tormentor without realizing that she herself was her own worst enemy.

[ryebread]

I am sure that Kyle was blasted by her big sister Kathy when she exposed Kim's alcoholism, Kathy was not concerned one bit about Kim being an alcoholic but about everybody knowing about it,

 

If Kathy and Kim are so close, why do you think Kathy is not concerned one bit about her being an alcoholic?

 

Also, why do so many think Kim and Kathy are closer than Kim and Kyle?  Is this speculation based on what we've seen on the show or did I miss a TH?

[WireWrap]

If Kathy and Kim are so close, why do you think Kathy is not concerned one bit about her being an alcoholic?

 

Also, why do so many think Kim and Kathy are closer than Kim and Kyle?  Is this speculation based on what we've seen on the show or did I miss a TH?

IMO, just mine, Kathy acts different to Kyle, colder, and has done so since before Mauricio left her husband's RE Brokerage but she is much warmer to Kim. She and Kim always seem to be more relaxed around each other and Kim does not mind if Kathy skips out on a promise, like planning/hosting Kimberly's graduation party last season but let Kyle is held to a different standard.

 

I am not sure Kathy is not concerned about Kim's drug/alcohol abuse/addictions but she is never around while Kyle is left to pick up the pieces. Heck, look at Kathy's own daughter's, Paris, drug/alcohol issues. There is a history of addiction/abuse on both sides of that family, Richards/Hilton.

[Satchels of gold]

I hate my old brain because often I get the jist or the essence of something but the details are lost. Last year when Kathy brought over the prom dresses to Kim's it was definitely stated that Kim and Kathy are closer. The exact statement? Lost in my noggin somewhere along with various passwords.

[zoeysmom]

I hate my old brain because often I get the jist or the essence of something but the details are lost. Last year when Kathy brought over the prom dresses to Kim's it was definitely stated that Kim and Kathy are closer. The exact statement? Lost in my noggin somewhere along with various passwords.

I think Kyle said that it rotates which two sisters are closer at the time.  For years Kim was Kyle's problem as the Hilton had problems with "all four of their children".  Nicki and Paris are doing fine right now but the boys are screwed up.  Once Kim left rehab she stayed at on of the Hilton hotels for a period of time until she found a home.   Guess Rick Hilton got to pick up the tab for that house.

 

Sometimes I think Kim just says ridiculous things about how she grew up.  Last week it was about stealing Kathy's clothes-I am sorry but what does an eight year steal to wear from an 18 year old?   To me, Kim hallucinates a great deal of her childhood trauma, where Kyle try to take the good of it she remembers, her mom being proud of all three girls, and applies to her life. Regardless of the situation between the sisters the cousins seem to maintain their support for one another.

[ryebread]

I am not sure Kathy is not concerned about Kim's drug/alcohol abuse/addictions but she is never around while Kyle is left to pick up the pieces.

 

But for all we know,  Kim starts it, Kyle blows it up onscreen and Kathy is left to deal with all of it in the off season.  Now there's a reason I could see why Kathy wouldn't be close to Kyle. But who knows.  As awful as I think Kathy is, because they all fall from the same terrible tree, I think she probably is left to pick up some of those pieces.

 

If I weren't so sick of Kim and Kyle's dysfunction, I'd say bring on Kathy Hilton and let's see how this plays when she's around.  But nah. Because then, somehow, Paris would end up on my TV. 

[RealityTVSmack]

I was researching Kathy Hilton and found this. I didn't realize she was a half sister to Kyle & Kim and that she didn't watch the show in 2012 because it made her cry! Though it appears since her kids grew up she's been working. Her two daughters seem to be raking it in also.

NET WORTH: $300 MILLION--DATE OF BIRTH MARCH 13, 1959--PLACE OF BIRTH NEW YORK CITY--PROFESSION: ACTOR, FASHION DESIGNER, PRESENTER, BUSINESS PERSON

CATEGORY--RICHEST CELEBRITIES

Kathy Hilton net worth: Kathy Hilton is an American: actress, home shopping personality, fashion designer and philanthropist who has a net worth of $300 million. Kathy Hilton is probably best known for being the mother of Paris Hilton.

Since marrying into the Hilton family, Kathy began working on home-shopping network QVC in 2002, and 3 years later she hosted the reality television program I Want to Be a Hilton on NBC. Two years after that, she began selling skincare products on rival home-shopping network HSN. Her latest venture was in 2008, when she made a cameo appearance on the soap opera, The Young and the Restless as herself and in 2011 she also appeared on The World According to Paris. Hilton's half-sisters, Kim and Kyle Richards, are both cast members on the hit Bravo reality series, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, In 2012, she commented that she refuses to watch her sisters on the show because they cause her to fall apart and break down in tears.

Since 2012, she has designed the Kathy Hilton Collection of party dresses, sold in four hundred stores worldwide, including Neiman Marcus, Saks Fifth Avenue and Nordstrom. She and her husband, Richard Hilton, are living in Bel Air and have four grown children, daughters Paris and Nicky, and sons Barron and Conrad.

Paris: http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/models/paris-hilton-net-worth/

Nicki: http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/models/nicky-hilton-net-worth/

**Update--A poster on another site just informed me some of this info is inaccurate...so I've corrected it.

Edited January 26, 2015 by RealityTVSmack

[quinn]

It makes sense that Kim would be closer Kathy than Kyle is to Kathy, Kathy is ten years older than Kyle. My first exposure to Kyle was related to Paris Hilton, so between that and Mauricio working for Rick Hilton and even Kyle working for him, I have no doubt there is a relationship.

I don't blame the Hiltons, Brinsons, Davises, Jacksons and any leftover Richards for being pissed, very pissed at Kyle over the limo reveal. Kim's addictions and other issues may have been a burden to the family, and the family's way of dealing with it is questionable to say the least, but Kyle deciding to have a showdown with her sister on the last day of filming of their reality show was all kinds of wrong.

Kim definitely said that she's closer to Rick than Mauricio, at the time I saw that as Kim being manipulative and getting back at Mauricio for something or the other, but I can actually see that being the case given how long Rick has been in her life. However, I think that there was an agenda, and not a good one, with her saying it on camera.

[Tara Ariano]

Drama continues at Eileen's poker party when Kyle and Brandi feud over Kim. Elsewhere, Lisa Vanderpump returns from vacation; Lisa Rinna presides over a jewelry party; and Kyle receives shocking news about Kim.

[zoeysmom]

It makes sense that Kim would be closer Kathy than Kyle is to Kathy, Kathy is ten years older than Kyle. My first exposure to Kyle was related to Paris Hilton, so between that and Mauricio working for Rick Hilton and even Kyle working for him, I have no doubt there is a relationship.

I don't blame the Hiltons, Brinsons, Davises, Jacksons and any leftover Richards for being pissed, very pissed at Kyle over the limo reveal. Kim's addictions and other issues may have been a burden to the family, and the family's way of dealing with it is questionable to say the least, but Kyle deciding to have a showdown with her sister on the last day of filming of their reality show was all kinds of wrong.

Kim definitely said that she's closer to Rick than Mauricio, at the time I saw that as Kim being manipulative and getting back at Mauricio for something or the other, but I can actually see that being the case given how long Rick has been in her life. However, I think that there was an agenda, and not a good one, with her saying it on camera.

Obviously it was not a brilliant move on Kyle's part but I don't think it was an agenda item.  I think Kim just pressed way too  many buttons when it came to Mauricio and Kyle lost it.  Let's face secretive works both ways-Kim thought nothing of throwing out a big lie saying Mauricio stole her house. 

 

I don't know that Kim's entire stable of people were mad at Kyle because some of that very same stable has talked about Kim's addictions long before Kyle ever outed her. I think the disappointment was limited to Kathy and Paris because they like to keep things secret.  Except things like sex tapes.

 

Since 2012 Kathy has had a few appearances on the show  so I think she is back to watching it  and probably happy Kim has a source of income and some exposure.  Obviously Kathy and Rick could, if they chose, to fully support Kim financially but I think both sisters feel that Kim needs handle things on her own so she can be happy and somewhat self-sufficient. I have never seen Kim with Rick or heard her speak of him.  They are one strange family.

[Avaleigh]

Kim definitely said that she's closer to Rick than Mauricio, at the time I saw that as Kim being manipulative and getting back at Mauricio for something or the other, but I can actually see that being the case given how long Rick has been in her life. However, I think that there was an agenda, and not a good one, with her saying it on camera.

 

 

Oh, I think it was a full on dig at Kyle and Mauricio because of Kyle's comments about Mauricio treating Kim like a "second fucking wife" and Mauricio calling Kim on all of her lying bullshit in Hawaii. 

 

I know Kyle wants to talk about Lisa but IMO it's Kim who is the epic grudge-holder on this show. Unless of course we're talking about [her relationship with] Brandi and in this case we're just talking about it being a waiting game.

Edited January 26, 2015 by Avaleigh

[mwell345]

 

Funny.  I think Kim can salvage her life.  I see Brandi on a downward spiral that could end up much worse than Kim.  Especially if they decide to get rid of her or reduce her to a friend next season.  Any other reality show she could go on would be a downgrade and she's not going to handle it well.  Sad.

I agree with you about both, and it just reinforces why I think they should both be removed from the show.  It goes beyond a dislike/distaste for Brandi and being tired of seeing Kim's addiction played on my TV.

 

Kim, given privacy, support, and the opportunity to get the help she needs without the added pressure of RHOBH, just might turn it around.  On the other hand, I fear we may end up reading something  terrible about Brandi if she continues on the downward spiral she's on.  And this too, goes beyond the show - all of the "drunk Brandi" photos, stories, etc.

 

Bravo is not doing either woman a favor by keeping them on this show.

[izabella]

Kim, given privacy, support, and the opportunity to get the help she needs without the added pressure of RHOBH, just might turn it around.

 

I doubt that, personally.  Kim had all that privacy, support and opportunity to get help in the decades before she appeared on RHoBH, and she never turned shit around.   Did anyone pay any attention to Kim before she came on the show?  No, not since her glory days, so she had decades of time out of the spotlight to get help.  It's not the pressure of the show that is preventing Kim from getting sober.  It's that she is an addict who won't even admit to anything except alcoholism, and won't go into real therapy with a psychiatrist to help her with her MAJOR issues.

Edited January 26, 2015 by izabella

[charming]

Kim has been an addict for most of her adult life. She's been in and out of rehab multiple times. Being on Bravo or not being on Bravo won't have an impact on her sobriety.

[mwell345]

 

I don't know that Kim's entire stable of people were mad at Kyle because some of that very same stable has talked about Kim's addictions long before Kyle ever outed her. I think the disappointment was limited to Kathy and Paris because they like to keep things secret.  Except things like sex tapes.

 

I think Kyle keeps things secret too.  I think she puts forth a persona (and they probably all do, to some degree) and we see Kyle's life as Kyle wants us to see it.  I think that for the most part, she is calculated in what she says and does on air.  And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but that's why  I think they limo scene was as real as reality gets - Kyle was fed up and blew up. I don't think her original intention was to out Kim on TV and this was probably one of those instances where one really did forget the cameras were rolling.

[zoeysmom]

Here is another First Look-the conversation between Yo and Brandi;  http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/brandi-glanville-explains-fight-with-kyle-richards-i-got-pissed-2015261

[zoeysmom]

Oh, I think it was a full on dig at Kyle and Mauricio because of Kyle's comments about Mauricio treating Kim like a "second fucking wife" and Mauricio calling Kim on all of her lying bullshit in Hawaii. 

 

I know Kyle wants to talk about Lisa but IMO it's Kim who is the epic grudge-holder on this show. Unless of course we're talking about [her relationship with] Brandi and in this case we're just talking about it being a waiting game.

Unfortunately for Kyle she has surrounded herself with two epic grudge holders.  Lisa seems to be loosening up but Kim continues to this day to show she can't let go of a grudge.  The fact Brandi claims she "would beat Kyle" if she saw her in Utah and that somehow she is knows the Hiltons and Richards more so than Kyle because she went to their Christmas party and Kyle didn't (Paris and Nikki were missing as well) to shows Kim won't step in and stick up for her family. Let it go Kim. . .your family grudges stink.  Kim comes off so desperate around Brandi -she either has never had a friend or is showing the world why she has no friends.  Cloying. . . . .

[WireWrap]

Unfortunately for Kyle she has surrounded herself with two epic grudge holders.  Lisa seems to be loosening up but Kim continues to this day to show she can't let go of a grudge.  The fact Brandi claims she "would beat Kyle" if she saw her in Utah and that somehow she is knows the Hiltons and Richards more so than Kyle because she went to their Christmas party and Kyle didn't (Paris and Nikki were missing as well) to shows Kim won't step in and stick up for her family. Let it go Kim. . .your family grudges stink.  Kim comes off so desperate around Brandi -she either has never had a friend or is showing the world why she has no friends.  Cloying. . . . .

Kim, Brandi, Kyle and Yolanda hold grudges just as long, and some longer, than Lisa.

 

Here is another First Look-the conversation between Yo and Brandi;  http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/brandi-glanville-explains-fight-with-kyle-richards-i-got-pissed-2015261

Hmmmmm, Yolanda is starting to sound like Lisa about "mothering" Brandi! LOL Another one bites the dust, Another on bites the dust, and another one........Introducing Brandi's story of How to Ruin Friendships! LOL

[polodog]

I'm tired of the fighting.  I just want house porn. Watching a family implode is not my idea of fun--see, NJ.  However, Yolanda's infinity pool is.

Edited January 26, 2015 by polodog

[Found A Peanut]

Yeah, Yolanda is a bit of a bore but that house, yowza. I'd love to know how much of the design, both architectural and interior, Yo was genuinely responsible for. How she can think of giving up the view from that bedroom, I don't even know. If you're really bedridden as often as you say, Yo, think about it!

[Giselle]

I am hoping the meeting between LisaV and Kyle will be the start of endgame for Brandi.

From your mouth to Karma's ears.

 

I'd love this season to be the last one for Lurch and Baby Jane.

Yeah, Yolanda is a bit of a bore but that house, yowza. I'd love to know how much of the design, both architectural and interior, Yo was genuinely responsible for. How she can think of giving up the view from that bedroom, I don't even know. If you're really bedridden as often as you say, Yo, think about it!

 

I love, love, love Yo's house, lemons and all.

Edited January 27, 2015 by Giselle

[Umbelina]

Kim said some things in interviews that indicated she was much closer to Kathy than to Kyle.  Didn't she also go stay with Kathy for a while when she left rehab?  It was a while ago, so my memory is foggy, but I know I've heard her or read her make comments like that more than a few times.

 

Kathy and Rick were (are?) BIG TIME into drugs, booze, and partying.  House of Hilton went into that quite a bit, and didn't it also cause him to be cut off from part of the Hilton inheritance?  I remember thinking, "no wonder Kim prefers them" at the time, since Kathy loves her drugs and booze too.

 

Meanwhile, anyone think this will teach Kyle to keep her damn hands to herself?  To stop grabbing people, and pointing her finger in their faces?  Nah, me neither.

[rehoboth]

The way Brandi presented it, sober Kim is starting to get overwhelmed and needs Kyle's support, and while Kyle is not obligated to become involved, I see it as a negative against Kyle if she blew off Brandi's request to check on her sister. The thing is that I don't believe Brandi.

You know, at first, I also thought that it portrayed Kyle in a negative light.  But upon reflection I've changed my mind.

 

When you get a phone call at 2 am from someone who brought all this on themselves saying they are overwhelmed, you say back to them "Call me back in the morning and we'll go over it."  When you are called second-hand at 2 am by someone who thinks that someone else may be in over their heads by their own doing, a sane person goes back to sleep.  Kim certainly can call Kyle if she truly needs her.

 

Don't forget, Kim has three grown daughters who can help her with the wedding (and those girls know their mom is "special").  Monty has other family.  Kim has event-planner extraordinaire Kathy to call.

 

Maybe I just hate having my sleep interrupted?

[bosawks]

I think you have to cut that shit short with Brandi and her 2 am phone calls of Sturm and Drang, otherwise you'd never get a good night's sleep ever again.

 

Who wants to talk to her everyday at 2 pm let alone 2 am...

[Bronzedog]

Plus, it sounds more like Brandi drunk dialing more than anything. Suddenly, she's so concerned about Kim! Kyle must act! Now! Something you might do in your early 20s.

[WireWrap]

Kim said some things in interviews that indicated she was much closer to Kathy than to Kyle.  Didn't she also go stay with Kathy for a while when she left rehab?  It was a while ago, so my memory is foggy, but I know I've heard her or read her make comments like that more than a few times.

 

Kathy and Rick were (are?) BIG TIME into drugs, booze, and partying.  House of Hilton went into that quite a bit, and didn't it also cause him to be cut off from part of the Hilton inheritance?  I remember thinking, "no wonder Kim prefers them" at the time, since Kathy loves her drugs and booze too.

 

Meanwhile, anyone think this will teach Kyle to keep her damn hands to herself?  To stop grabbing people, and pointing her finger in their faces?  Nah, me neither.

Well, it was Kathy that introduced Faye, when she was snorting, to the family! LOL

[rehoboth]

 "Where's my pizza?" is Absolutely Fabulous!.  AbFab came first, RHOBH next and now Kim has brought it all back home again.

 

Kim:  'Were you fighting?'

Brandi: "Kyle pushed me and I had to push her back."

Kim: "Where's my pizza?"

 

She forgot the Darling or sweetie part but that's ok.  In future Kim it's "Where's my pizza dahling?" while she's stumbling down the driveway.
 

[charming]

Kathy and Rick were (are?) BIG TIME into drugs, booze, and partying.  House of Hilton went into that quite a bit, and didn't it also cause him to be cut off from part of the Hilton inheritance?  I remember thinking, "no wonder Kim prefers them" at the time, since Kathy loves her drugs and booze too.

 

Yeah they are very shady. Last year the cops raided a plane on a private airstrip on an estate in Costa Rica they have interest in. They found 400 kilos and 1.5 million in cash. Of course they had nothing to do with that, not at all. 

 

Paris was rumored to be a drug dealer to other spoiled rich kids.

 

That whole family is messed up. 

[DeeplyShallow]

Yeah they are very shady. Last year the cops raided a plane on a private airstrip on an estate in Costa Rica they have interest in. They found 400 kilos and 1.5 million in cash. Of course they had nothing to do with that, not at all.

Paris was rumored to be a drug dealer to other spoiled rich kids.

That whole family is messed up.

Wow, really?! How have I not heard of this?

Edited to add: not the Paris part, that's pretty well known.

Edited January 27, 2015 by DeeplyShallow

[breezy424]

Kim said some things in interviews that indicated she was much closer to Kathy than to Kyle.  Didn't she also go stay with Kathy for a while when she left rehab?  It was a while ago, so my memory is foggy, but I know I've heard her or read her make comments like that more than a few times.

 

Kathy and Rick were (are?) BIG TIME into drugs, booze, and partying.  House of Hilton went into that quite a bit, and didn't it also cause him to be cut off from part of the Hilton inheritance?  I remember thinking, "no wonder Kim prefers them" at the time, since Kathy loves her drugs and booze too.

 

Meanwhile, anyone think this will teach Kyle to keep her damn hands to herself?  To stop grabbing people, and pointing her finger in their faces?  Nah, me neither.

 

Brandi was the one who was doing a body block between Kyle and Kim so I don't have a problem with Kyle touching Brandi.  And then later we have Brandi grabbing Kyle's wrists out in the driveway against the garage.  That's a real problem.

 

I do agree that Kim and Kathy have been closer than Kyle.  Maybe Kathy has been much more tolerant of Kim's 'problems' than Kyle.  From the little I know of the Hilton family, that wouldn't surprise me.

[Lemondrop 16]

Joanna Krupa was an ugly drunk in Miami. Every bit as bad as Brandi. She was told by her family, boyfriend (I can't remember his name but it was spelled like a vegetable I think), and co-stars that she was an embarrassing bitch when she drank. I think it was at the reunion of that year (after seeing herself on film) she said she wouldn't be drinking on camera anymore. It goes without saying that she "brought it" when she was so out of control. She stuck by her pledge though and didn't drink the next year (or at least she didn't get drunk ). That self awareness and effort redeemed her a bit in my eyes.

Brandi said something similar towards the end of last season. The fight with Lisa seemed a little out of hand and she wanted to keep her wits about her. She said she wanted to be careful and so she wouldn't be drinking around the other women. She was sober for the last part of the season. Now she seems to be drinking as much as ever. She's done worse (in my opinion) this year throwing wine, a physical altercation, being BFFs with the mess that Kim has become. Still she drinks. She's drinking because she doesn't care how she comes off, she wants to "bring it" to each and every event she attends and, I think, she just can't stop anymore. The little self awareness she had seems to be gone.

[WireWrap]

Brandi was the one who was doing a body block between Kyle and Kim so I don't have a problem with Kyle touching Brandi.  And then later we have Brandi grabbing Kyle's wrists out in the driveway against the garage.  That's a real problem.

 

I do agree that Kim and Kathy have been closer than Kyle.  Maybe Kathy has been much more tolerant of Kim's 'problems' than Kyle.  From the little I know of the Hilton family, that wouldn't surprise me.

Kathy is not around all that much, it has been left to Kyle to clean up Kim's messes and pay her bills. Kathy flies into town, pats Kim on the head, tells her she understands, gives her a hug and then flies off again. Kathy cares about Kathy/husband/kids and that is it. I think "tolerant" is a kind way of saying they got high/partied together for years. LOL

[ryebread]

Joanna Krupa was an ugly drunk in Miami. Every bit as bad as Brandi. She was told by her family, boyfriend (I can't remember his name but it was spelled like a vegetable I think), and co-stars that she was an embarrassing bitch when she drank.

 

LOL.  Romain.

 

And yes, Joanna was an ugly drunk.  Ugly and sloppier than we've ever seen Brandi on camera.  That said, she was smart enough to see that her relationship and future earnings as a model were on the line and exercised some self control.  She gets points for that and a double bonus points for suing Brandi.

[myname2use4now]

Did anyone else catch the look on Brandi's face in the preview (with Kim, Kyle and Brandi in the driveway) when Kyle (or was it Kim) said to Brandi, "You're not family"? She looked shocked. I think Brandi is desperate for a family to call her own again (nevermind she has two boys), but I find it telling that she's always accusing Kyle of being jealous of Kim (huh?) when I think that Brandi has raging jealousy issues herself. I hoping that Kim and Brandi get cut loose next season, although I think they'll both take it really hard.

 

I get the impression that Kyle was much closer to her mother and that Kathy and Kim are closer to each other. I really want to see Kyle disengage from Kim. If Kim is so good at taking care of everyone else (yeah, right), let her take care of herself. After all, she can always fall back on her BFF of six months, Brandi.