S05.E11: It's Just A Scratch

[missyb]

The "first look" was really kind of creepy. Brandi could not keep her hands off of Kim and was corralling her around in a completely domineering fashion. Much like she accused Lisa V of doing  a season or two ago. This was not caring it was mad manipulation. A good friend doesn't have to boast about always being there for her friend or being her go to person. Brandi is desperately trying to rip Kim from Kyle. She relishes that Kim is single and troubled, just like her. But, when the chips are down, Kim will turn to her family, not Brandi.  But there will come a day, Kyle will not be there for her. It will take too big of a toll on her. 

 

Also, Brandi says they hate each other and Kim is saying I love you both. Brandi is just really creepy. And she calls Kyle two faced. Hmmmm

Edited January 23, 2015 by missyb

[GreatKazu]

So the best day of Brandi's life was when an out of it Kim called her at 2 am.  The second best day of her life was when she called Kyle  and told her she was concerned about Kim and Kim suggested Kim handle it.    I guess we now know Kyle has boundaries.

I know, right? It is this show where Kyle has to face Kim when she is at her worst. Otherwise, Kyle does remove herself fromt that mess. Much like Kim may be forced to attend these functions or else it won't rain dollar bills. I have a feeling Kyle has avoided Kim many times, and this is why Kim hooked up with Brandi. Brandi is there for Kim because Kyle won't be.

 

I was laughing so hard when my husband told me it was Vince whose face was peering out the garage window. Just as I am typing this, I have the giggles so bad just thinking of it and typing this out. He looked like the neighbor next door who is watching the neighborhood couple going at it. I rewinded that over and over. It was hysterical!!! The laughter was much needed because that was some fucked up shit going down on the driveway.

 

 

eileen posted on Twitter that it was indeed Vince. He thought everyone had left and was getting leftover pizza out of the fridge in the garage.

Oh lawd!! Reading this has me laughing like a damn hyena right now!!!  If Vince wanted pizza, he should have looked over in the foyer, underneath that bench. I think that is where Brandi's slice of pizza flew. Ohhhh, and Kim? Asking where her pizza slice was at! Really, Kim? After all of that bullshit that just went down and you want your damn pizza slice? Bitch must have had some weed too before she headed out to Eileen's. And then! The Bravo camera pans to the slice of pizza on the floor!!

 

 

LIsa R. isn't 'having it. Not at all.  I am so glad to hear someone point out what the whole world is thinking when they watch this: Brandi and Kim are some fucked up people. Period. No ifs, ands, or buts. Lisa R. mentioning how her spouse lost two brothers to addiction, was so damn sad.

 

Brandi, aside from her own alcoholism, is one scary bitch in the hanger-on department. She is a basket case. What is it with her being so needy and attaching herself to people the way she does? When Lisa V. dared to keep Scheana around as an employee and not conform to Brandi's demands of basically wanting Lisa to choose her over Scheana, Brandi went all beserk.  We've seen how she is bonkers over the whole Eddie mess. As much as she tells the world she is over him, she clearly isn't. Then, there she is following J.R., claiming he cheated on her when all it was, was sex. Now, she is all over Kim like she is the last bottle of wine within a 1000 mile radius. Brandi can't snag a man or have a normal friendship with women so, she chooses an addict who also has issues with maintaining friendships.

Edited January 23, 2015 by GreatKazu

[RedheadZombie]

So far, I'm a Lisa Rinna fan but did no one else get annoyed at her know-it-all chatter in the car with Kyle?  After all the noise and commotion at Eileen's, then the confrontation, I might've had to nicely ask Lisa to please shut her pie hole.  Just me?

 

I'm sure she meant well, but she acted like she was going to ride with Kyle to comfort her.  Instead, she just kept going on and on, and seemed unable to see how overwhelmed Kyle was.  Kyle probably didn't know Kim's microphone had picked up what Kim said, and wasn't about to state what Kim said on camera.  I don't blame her.

 

I don't really agree that Kim loved them fighting over her.  When Kyle first came out and was visibly upset, it was like Kim sobered up for a moment.  She took her arm and gently said, "come here, come here", like she was comforting Kyle.  The dysfunction is heartbreaking.  I believe seeing an emotional Kyle upset Kim, and it took much longer than we saw before she was happily cuddling with her new mother/enabler.

 

And I do think that Kim clearly (erroneously) thought she was really holding her shit together.  It surprised her when Brandi told her she wasn't making sense, and instead of denying it, she admitted that Lisa had said the same thing.  It made me wonder if she has an untreated mental illness going on.  What a mess.  The public was absolutely vicious when they attacked Amanda Bynes thinking she was simply an out of control drug addict.  Turned out she was severely mentally ill.

[jonesingjay]

Kim and Brandi are drug buddies, right?

[quinn]

And I do think that Kim clearly (erroneously) thought she was really holding her shit together.  It surprised her when Brandi told her she wasn't making sense, and instead of denying it, she admitted that Lisa had said the same thing.  It made me wonder if she has an untreated mental illness going on.  What a mess.  The public was absolutely vicious when they attacked Amanda Bynes thinking she was simply an out of control drug addict.  Turned out she was severely mentally ill.

I've wondered the same thing a time or three. Kim is clearly has issues with substances plural, I am not an expert but there have been times when I've seen Kim act out and thought she was drunk/wasted/high and other times that I've seen her and thought that it was some kind of mental health episode.

ETA:

It may not even be untreated, unless Kim is refusing treatment or she's treatment resistant, because in a previous scene with Paul she listed meds she was on and some if not all of what she listed were psych meds.

Edited January 23, 2015 by quinn

[Satchels of gold]

I love how Brandi told the story of calling Kyle at 2 AM, worried about Kim, and Kyle saying it's not her problem - thinking that this would make Kyle look bad. When in reality, I'm hearing the story, thinking that "Kim's not herself" is code for "high as a kite," and thinking - Kyle - be strong, it's not your problem.

Nice try, Brandi.

I know, right?!? I was thinking the same thing! Instead of being horrified, as Brandi would like, I was thinking maybe Kyle isn't as emeshed as she appears and that's a good thing (tm Martha Stewart). Also kudzu, to whoever called it that Kim hates Kyle. It appears many of those late night phone calls to Brandi must include how awful Kyle is.

[ryebread]

I'm sure she meant well, but she acted like she was going to ride with Kyle to comfort her.  Instead, she just kept going on and on, and seemed unable to see how overwhelmed Kyle was.  Kyle probably didn't know Kim's microphone had picked up what Kim said, and wasn't about to state what Kim said on camera.  I don't blame her.

 

That's an excellent point about Kyle not knowing yet that Kim's mic was on. So yeah, she's sitting there trying to process Kim's revelation plus everything else, and Lisa just.won't.stop.

 

Because she's perfection in almost every other way, that's going to be the quality production will zoom in on when it's her turn for the requisite bad edit. She talks a lot.  Loudly.  And interrupts even more.  Even if only a handful of us see it, production has - they're around her much more than we.  

 

Run, Lisa, ruuuuuuuun.

[ryebread]

I've wondered the same thing a time or three. Kim is clearly has issues with substances plural, I am not an expert but there have been times when I've seen Kim act out and thought she was drunk/wasted/high and other times that I've seen her and thought that it was some kind of mental health episode.

 

Yes.  Either she's high in most of her THs or there's another mental health issue going on.

 

Somebody help me out.  In a recent episode, can't remember which, Kim was doing a TH and she was trying to imitate Lisa VP's accent and saying something like, "I hope they like me" (referring to Lisa and Ken)  and then she repeated it.  It was so odd sounding and her face and mannerisms were bizarre. I remember thinking, there is something really wrong with her.

[slade3]

I usually skip the First Looks, but I'm glad I watched this one. Eileen was awesome. I was feeling badly for her because, like another poster here, I thought there were some flirting vibes between Vince and Brandi and I don't want to watch Eileen worry about that. But she was a tough, smart cookie handling Brandi and Kim afterward. She showed the appropriate amount of concern for Kim because Kim was her guest, therefore Eileen's responsibility until she left her property, but not so much concern that I was tricked into believing she cared. And her comments to every ridiculous thing Brandi said were spot on. Clearly, she just wanted both of these silly women away from her home and didn't want Brandi to touch her.

 

I also loved how Lisa R got out of there, volunteering to ride home with Kyle. I know she did not want to be stuck riding home with Kim. Good for her.

 

Sadly, though, I believe Brandi about Kyle not wanting anything to do with Kim when the cameras aren't rolling, but showing "concern" when they are with friends and being filmed. The problem, though, is that Brandi hasn't been around to see what Kyle has gone through. I've never liked Kyle and believe she's a phony mean girl who sucks up to whomever is in favor at the moment, but I bet she's had enough of Kim over the years and Brandi is only now seeing what happens when a family member just can't take it anymore.

[motorcitymom65]

I usually skip the First Looks, but I'm glad I watched this one. Eileen was awesome. I was feeling badly for her because, like another poster here, I thought there were some flirting vibes between Vince and Brandi and I don't want to watch Eileen worry about that. But she was a tough, smart cookie handling Brandi and Kim afterward. She showed the appropriate amount of concern for Kim because Kim was her guest, therefore Eileen's responsibility until she left her property, but not so much concern that I was tricked into believing she cared. And her comments to every ridiculous thing Brandi said were spot on. Clearly, she just wanted both of these silly women away from her home and didn't want Brandi to touch her.

 

 

 

I am all kinds of in love with Eileen at this point. I thought she was brought on to compete with Lisa for the title of The Queen, but it looks more like she might be the single voice of reason with Brandi. All of these other gals have too much history with Brandi to really do the job effectively. They've done stuff to her, she's done stuff to them. There is entirely too much emotion between them all. Not with Eileen.  Sure, she had some wine thrown in her face, but at this point she doesn't know Brandi very well. She is an observer who is just watching the horrible display that is Brandi and making astute observations that would fall flat or sound just bitchy from the other gals. 

[Avaleigh]

That's an excellent point about Kyle not knowing yet that Kim's mic was on. So yeah, she's sitting there trying to process Kim's revelation plus everything else, and Lisa just.won't.stop.

 

Why wouldn't Kyle think that Kim's mic was on though? I thought that was the entire point of her whispering? I was under the impression that both mics were on hence Kyle's whispering. Kim was too out of it and loaded to care about whispering and only worried about it well after the fact. 

 

Also, isn't the rule for reality shows typically that if one person heads into a bathroom (or any room) then they don't have to film but two people in a bathroom or whatever room = having a scene? Having at least two people is the magic number to get the cameras to follow you so I feel like on some level Kim had to have known that there would be some sort of focus on her confronting Kyle in that bathroom. I suppose though it's expecting rather a lot to have Kim remember stuff like this.

[chlban]

The "first look" was really kind of creepy. Brandi could not keep her hands off of Kim and was corralling her around in a completely domineering fashion. Much like she accused Lisa V of doing  a season or two ago. This was not caring it was mad manipulation. A good friend doesn't have to boast about always being there for her friend or being her go to person. Brandi is desperately trying to rip Kim from Kyle. She relishes that Kim is single and troubled, just like her. But, when the chips are down, Kim will turn to her family, not Brandi.  But there will come a day, Kyle will not be there for her. It will take too big of a toll on her. 

 

Also, Brandi says they hate each other and Kim is saying I love you both. Brandi is just really creepy. And she calls Kyle two faced. Hmmmm

This. I have said it before, I will repeat. This cannot end well for Brandi. She is an idiot for thinking she can get between sisters and have anything good come from it. Kim is a pain in the ass, spoiled, self indulgent and weak but she is Kyle's sister and for better or worse Kyle loves her, even when she hates her. Thing that Brandi the moron doesn't grasp is that Kim also loves Kyle. You don't get between sisters. Period. 

[CaughtOnTape]

I would've laid Brandi out for the second time in the driveway.  

 

What.a.bitch

[Carolina Girl]

Funny how Brandi always seems to want to blame someone else for her bad behavior.  Remember last season, when cornered about her outrageous remarks, she piled on with how she was being used by Lisa as an attack dog; yet, I've never seen Lisa be hesitant about speaking her own mind about something.  Lisa didn't put her up to that BS with Adrienne.  That was pure Brandi.  Lisa did not run around claiming Brandi was being sued by Adrienne - that was Lisa believing BRANDI's account of the letter.  I think all the BS out of Brandi's mouth is pure Brandi, and if someone suggests a way for her to blame someone else for it, she jumps on it, true or not.

 

Interesting that Lisa predicted that eventually Kyle was going to see the real Brandi and damned if she didn't.  I really hope there is a Kyle/Lisa VP lunch in the near future where she admits that Lisa was right about this two-faced bitch.  It's time for Brandi AND Kim to be retired from this show.  I would much rather watch the two Lisas, Eileen and Kyle.

[ryebread]

Why wouldn't Kyle think that Kim's mic was on though? I thought that was the entire point of her whispering?

 

You are correct.  I guess in my head when redheadzombie mentioned it, I was thinking that Kyle had no idea if anyone had heard the convo or not. 

[bichonblitz]

Brandi with her arms around Kim, hugging her, pawing at her and telling her she loves her, for chrissakes she practically had Kim in a head lock!. WTF!   

[Duke2801]

Who calls a friend or sister at 2 am confused to say they are overwhelmed?

 

 

Addicts. 

 

That's an excellent point about Kyle not knowing yet that Kim's mic was on. So yeah, she's sitting there trying to process Kim's revelation plus everything else, and Lisa just.won't.stop.

 

 

Yeah, I really do believe she was just trying to help, but she did seem to be a bit..errr... relentless in going on about addiction. I have a friend like that, though, that after a few drinks, she WILL go on (and on and on...) about a topic, so maybe Lisa R. was a bit buzzed herself?  I mean she can't weight much more than 110 pounds--it probably doesn't take much!  

 

I still really like her though.  And Eileen?  LOVE.  Her shading of Brandi in the driveway was beautiful and perfect.  Almost poetry. 

[CaughtOnTape]

I tend to think that Lisa R was just trying to fill the silence.  She seemed very shell shocked by what had gone on and since it doesn't seem she knows Kyle well she wasn't comfortable just sitting in the car with her and maybe holding her hand or something while she cried.  Situations like that cause heightened emotions and people don't know what to do with themselves.  I don't get that Lisa R is presented with scenarios like that in her life so it seemed to me like she thought she was being helpful.  It also seemed to me like she was working things out in her own head about what she just witnessed and also that she was accused of doing something she didn't do.

 

What she didn't realize was that Kyle knew very well what had just happened, was scared, embarrassed and confused and felt betrayed (not only by Kim but Brandi as well).  Rehashing it probably wasn't #1 on her list of things she wanted to do.

[sistermagpie]

Who calls a friend or sister at 2 am confused to say they are overwhelmed?  I mean maybe you make one of those phone calls in a life time. If you find someone who will take them more power to you.  It was not Brandi's place to indulge Kim and then try and guilt Kyle into taking over the Brandi's indulgence.

 

 

Yes, while Kyle hasn't completely changed all her habits with Kim, it's kind of fascinating to me that it seems like she has really tried to adjust her behavior. Kim punished her for a long time for limogate where Kyle wasn't allowed to speak to her and had to be oh so very respectful of Kim's boundaries etc. So of course now Kyle's being criticized by Kim and Brandi for having slightly healthier boundaries apparently. 

 

And I do think that Kim clearly (erroneously) thought she was really holding her shit together.  It surprised her when Brandi told her she wasn't making sense, and instead of denying it, she admitted that Lisa had said the same thing.  It made me wonder if she has an untreated mental illness going on.

 

 

It's probably hard to tell with Kim after so many years of drug abuse that's probably both altered her chemistry and just given her no practice in having normal human interactions. But I didn't take Kim as admitting anything when she said Lisa said the same thing. She was eagerly grabbing onto Brandi's cover story. The two of them were trying to act like they were completely practical and sober and were figuring out just what was slightly wrong with Kim that made others suspect ridiculous things like her being on drugs. So when Brandi gave her the story about how she was just under so much stress and it made her incoherent Kim put on her thoughtful-and-totally-reasonable voice and wondered at how Lisa had said the same thing so yes, perhaps in her stressful state she sounded a bit incoherent. Admitting to Lisa also having noted she was babbling isn't admitting that she was high and not getting away with it, it's making herself into the reasonable person who's generous about understanding Lisa's mistaken impression. 

Edited January 23, 2015 by sistermagpie

[Bronzedog]

Vince looking thru the garage, window reminds me of old Alfred Hitchcock movies in that Alfred Hitchcock appeared in some random scene in all of his movies. Or like Where's Waldo?

[jinjer]

 

She is a basket case. What is it with her being so needy and attaching herself to people the way she does? When Lisa V. dared to keep Scheana around as an employee and not conform to Brandi's demands of basically wanting Lisa to choose her over Scheana, Brandi went all beserk.  We've seen how she is bonkers over the whole Eddie mess. As much as she tells the world she is over him, she clearly isn't. Then, there she is following J.R., claiming he cheated on her when all it was, was sex. Now, she is all over Kim like she is the last bottle of wine within a 1000 mile radius. Brandi can't snag a man or have a normal friendship with women so, she chooses an addict who also has issues with maintaining friendships.

It also makes her the perfect companion for Kim who needs someone to "have her back" and serve as her guard dog .  All those late night talks had to include a lot of talk about Kim's relationship with Kyle.  And I think a lot of the spew about Kyle that Brandi uttered came directly from those late night talks. Kim gives Brandi an actual purpose in her own life, not just a storyline.  I don't think Brandi cares so much about the storyline stuff.  A few posters have noted that Brandi is empty, lonely, alone etc. I think she latches onto other people because there are so many voids in her own life/mind. She did it with Lisa and now with Kim. And it makes her an easy target for an addict to manipulate.  I think Kim is playing Brandi.  But Kim also fills a huge emptiness in Brandi's life.  Brandi feels needed, she gives guidance and understanding and protection. Sure, in reality it's all misguided and probably damaging to both of them, but it makes Brandi feel good and like she has a purpose.

 

If Brandi were smart and cared about a continuing storyline, she would've stuck with Kyle.  Kyle will always be a lead on RHBH no doubt.  Brandi had just made up with her. Conflict is one thing, war is another. Going to war over Kim is not good.  Getting in between the Richards sisters is a no-win situation. If Kyle cuts off Brandi, Lisa has cut her off, Yo is sick and likely to be friend-of or dropped, then where does that leave Brandi show-wise?  That's why I think Brandi isn't doing this for a storyline.

 

Also, from a non-reality show standpoint, Brandi should know better with Kim.  She helped her friend Jen Gimenez get sober. Addicts don't need enabling.  But I think Brandi's own addiction issues/substance abuse issues probably have changed since the Jen G. stuff. And Brandi is getting as much out of this enabling relationship as Kim is emotionally.

[walnutqueen]

Eileen read Brandi to perfection :  "She's toxic".

[zoeysmom]

http://stoopidhousewives.com/2015/01/23/rhobh-girls-night-fights-its-drunkotis-v-hagfacekyle-stlucianidol91-kylerichards-brandiglanville/

 

Here is the First Look-in case someone missed it.

[cooksdelight]

Remember how when you were a kid, you'd come back up behind someone and stick your knee into the back of theirs, causing them to fall? I was wanting someone to do that to drunk, staggering Brandi.

And I agree, Peeping Vince was hilarious!

[ryebread]

Eileen read Brandi to perfection :  "She's toxic".

 

Agreed.  It's amazing how we, myself included, can spend time paragraphing/listing Brandi's faults.  And along comes Davidson and Rinna with, "She's toxic" and "If that's not some white trash I don't know what is."  If only I could be so succinct.

 

Some might think it's because they don't know her and aren't as invested.  I just think some people are less wordy than others in their assessments.

[walnutqueen]

Remember how when you were a kid, you'd come back up behind someone and stick your knee into the back of theirs, causing them to fall? I was wanting someone to do that to drunk, staggering Brandi.

And I agree, Peeping Vince was hilarious!

 

You are a MUCH better person than I, cooksdelight.  Because even though I've never laid a finger on anyone, I want to bitchslap and then fucking punch Brandi in her trying-for-the-plastic-surgery-cat-lady's face.  Perhaps I need some anger management intervention?

[psychoticstate]

You know, I was a fan of Kim's from the first season because I remembered her as a child actress and I always wanted her gorgeous, long hair.  I had sympathy for her myriad of problems because I would imagine the combined fucknuttery of being a child actress (and the main support of your family) with Big Kathy as a parent, Kathy as an older sister and Paris as your niece would be more than anyone should have to endure.  However . . . as exhausted as I've been over the last five seasons, I can't even comprehend what Kyle's emotional and mental exhaustion must be.

 

I think she was already emotionally strung out from dropping Alexia at college and then feeling guilty over the wine tasting and then to have this happen.  Ugh.  I'm certainly no Kyle apologist but this was just horrid.  And as quickly as Kim was flipping the switch between being uber-aggressive and confrontational to weepy and confused and then flat out not remembering what happened less than an hour earlier . . . it's not alcohol. 

 

Brandi was completely and utterly out of line to get in between what was happening with Kyle and Kim.  Kim wasn't asking Brandi for her protection or to keep Kyle away from her.  It's obvious that Brandi wanted to be Kim's "savior" and demonstrate that Kyle wanted nothing to do with Kim unless the cameras were rolling.   Maybe Brandi has been Kim's support system for six months but she should try more than 40 years.

 

I will forever and always be a fan of Eileen's after this.  She didn't get into the fray and she told Brandi to shut up.  Excellent right there but then she topped it off by telling Brandi to get a grip and get some Neosporin.  She is fucking awesome.  She and LisaR can helm this show as far as I'm concerned.  I love them.  Can I have their lives?  Please?   

You are a MUCH better person than I, cooksdelight.  Because even though I've never laid a finger on anyone, I want to bitchslap and then fucking punch Brandi in her trying-for-the-plastic-surgery-cat-lady's face.  Perhaps I need some anger management intervention?

 

You are nicer than I am, walnutqueen, because I wanted to punch Brandi in her rejuvenated cooch.  She is toxic and she is trash.

[ryebread]

Remember how when you were a kid, you'd come back up behind someone and stick your knee into the back of theirs, causing them to fall?

 

Why, no, cooksdelight.  I don't remember that. LOL

 

I found sticking by foot behind their ankle worked just as well and posed less risk of injury to myself.  ;-)

[walnutqueen]

You know, I was a fan of Kim's from the first season because I remembered her as a child actress and I always wanted her gorgeous, long hair.  I had sympathy for her myriad of problems because I would imagine the combined fucknuttery of being a child actress (and the main support of your family) with Big Kathy as a parent, Kathy as an older sister and Paris as your niece would be more than anyone should have to endure.  However . . . as exhausted as I've been over the last five seasons, I can't even comprehend what Kyle's emotional and mental exhaustion must be.

 

I think she was already emotionally strung out from dropping Alexia at college and then feeling guilty over the wine tasting and then to have this happen.  Ugh.  I'm certainly no Kyle apologist but this was just horrid.  And as quickly as Kim was flipping the switch between being uber-aggressive and confrontational to weepy and confused and then flat out not remembering what happened less than an hour earlier . . . it's not alcohol. 

 

Brandi was completely and utterly out of line to get in between what was happening with Kyle and Kim.  Kim wasn't asking Brandi for her protection or to keep Kyle away from her.  It's obvious that Brandi wanted to be Kim's "savior" and demonstrate that Kyle wanted nothing to do with Kim unless the cameras were rolling.   Maybe Brandi has been Kim's support system for six months but she should try more than 40 years.

 

I will forever and always be a fan of Eileen's after this.  She didn't get into the fray and she told Brandi to shut up.  Excellent right there but then she topped it off by telling Brandi to get a grip and get some Neosporin.  She is fucking awesome.  She and LisaR can helm this show as far as I'm concerned.  I love them.  Can I have their lives?  Please?   

 

You are nicer than I am, walnutqueen, because I wanted to punch Brandi in her rejuvenated cooch.  She is toxic and she is trash.

 

psychoticstate - I think I lurve you (no creepy Brandi stalker shade intended).   :-)

[imjagain]

I have never loved a person(on a reality show) more. When Eileen said "shut up Brandi" in the most matter fact way. I loved it!

[glasscaseofemotion]

So, when I grow up, I want to be Eileen. Calm, cool, collected and able to throw shade and snark so well, the person receiving it doesn't even know just how much they'll need neosporin for the burn they just got. Maybe her demeanor comes from her years on a soap but between that and her rocking, 55 year old bod, I have serious Eileen envy right now.

 

Instead, I'm too much like Lisa Rinna, and don't know when to shut up, and too much like Kyle, and get emotional and flighty. So, I have a long ways to go!

 

I wish Kyle had ripped a page from Eileen's playbook and handled everything more calmly. I wish, after Kim said "thanks a lot for that", Kyle had just said "Kim, I don't know what you mean by that but we'll discuss it later. Right now, it looks like you are leaving, so please be safe and text me to let me know you made it home. And, I'll call you tomorrow and we can talk more then. Bye, love you". That would have disarmed Brandi, showed that Kyle cared and not continued to play this addict/enabler dance that she and Kim know all the steps to by now.

 

I think in the car with Kyle, Lisa R. went into actress mode. The cameras were still rolling and the show must go on so I think she was talking to talk and fill the uncomfortable air around them. Yes, it felt really blabby but, I hate to say it, I probably would have done exactly the same thing given the circumstances, my nature, and being with someone like Kyle who I didn't know too well.

[psychoticstate]

psychoticstate - I think I lurve you (no creepy Brandi stalker shade intended).   :-)

 

walnutqueen, you can come sit by me on the bus and we can hold hands and sign friendship contracts so long as you promise not to show up with a janky wig and expect me to hide in the bushes while we stalk someone.  Unless it's RDJ.  Then I'm game for whatever.

[glasscaseofemotion]

You know, I was a fan of Kim's from the first season because I remembered her as a child actress and I always wanted her gorgeous, long hair.  I had sympathy for her myriad of problems because I would imagine the combined fucknuttery of being a child actress (and the main support of your family) with Big Kathy as a parent, Kathy as an older sister and Paris as your niece would be more than anyone should have to endure.  However . . . as exhausted as I've been over the last five seasons, I can't even comprehend what Kyle's emotional and mental exhaustion must be.

 

I think she was already emotionally strung out from dropping Alexia at college and then feeling guilty over the wine tasting and then to have this happen.  Ugh.  I'm certainly no Kyle apologist but this was just horrid.  And as quickly as Kim was flipping the switch between being uber-aggressive and confrontational to weepy and confused and then flat out not remembering what happened less than an hour earlier . . . it's not alcohol. 

 

Brandi was completely and utterly out of line to get in between what was happening with Kyle and Kim.  Kim wasn't asking Brandi for her protection or to keep Kyle away from her.  It's obvious that Brandi wanted to be Kim's "savior" and demonstrate that Kyle wanted nothing to do with Kim unless the cameras were rolling.   Maybe Brandi has been Kim's support system for six months but she should try more than 40 years.

 

I will forever and always be a fan of Eileen's after this.  She didn't get into the fray and she told Brandi to shut up.  Excellent right there but then she topped it off by telling Brandi to get a grip and get some Neosporin.  She is fucking awesome.  She and LisaR can helm this show as far as I'm concerned.  I love them.  Can I have their lives?  Please?   

 

You are nicer than I am, walnutqueen, because I wanted to punch Brandi in her rejuvenated cooch.  She is toxic and she is trash.

 

Right there with you, sistah. I have given Kim such a pass for so long because of everything that must've gone down with being a child star, her crazy stage mom, etc. I also felt like "how could it be possible that she wouldn't end up messed up", you know? It's Hollyweird!

 

But, last night, when Brandi says "I had to push Kyle, because she pushed me". And Kim's response? "Where my pizza?"  Ugh! Enough!

 

My husband and I were watching the poker table scene (because everyone has to end up watching what I watch if they decide to plop down on the couch with me - thems the rules!) and were trying to figure out what she was on. When I told him that is was pain pills given to a stage IV cancer patient (I already knew because this was my second viewing), he went with oxycodone. I went with dilaudid. He said "hmmm, maybe, since it's synthetic heroin". Whatever it is/was, it was not alcohol. Brandi was drunk. Kim was something else entirely.

[quinn]

"Shut up... try some Neosporin" is going to be my favorite quote for some time to come.

[walnutqueen]

walnutqueen, you can come sit by me on the bus and we can hold hands and sign friendship contracts so long as you promise not to show up with a janky wig and expect me to hide in the bushes while we stalk someone.  Unless it's RDJ.  Then I'm game for whatever.

 

As long as your palms aren't sweaty and you don't try to slip me the tongue, I'll go along with the friendship contract.  But I must warn you, I was a P.I. long ago, and you never know when my inner stalkerish tendencies might take over when I spot some delicious BH trashiness unfolding before our bus.  You grab the bus driver, I'll grab the wheel.   And don't forget the camera & sunglasses, eh.  :-)

[motorcitymom65]

 

 

I wish Kyle had ripped a page from Eileen's playbook and handled everything more calmly. I wish, after Kim said "thanks a lot for that", Kyle had just said "Kim, I don't know what you mean by that but we'll discuss it later. Right now, it looks like you are leaving, so please be safe and text me to let me know you made it home. And, I'll call you tomorrow and we can talk more then. Bye, love you". That would have disarmed Brandi, showed that Kyle cared and not continued to play this addict/enabler dance that she and Kim know all the steps to by now.

 

 

 

Eileen is a rock star in my book. Love, love, love her.  She handled the whole thing with perfection. I don't think we can compare Kyle in this situation, however. I am going to make a bet that before the season is over we will see Eileen lose her cool about something. That is just the way it all works out. It might not be something as emotional to her as a sibling or a family member, but I bet she will lose it. 

 

It reminds me of how shocking it was to see Carole lose control on the NY show. We were so use to her being calm in most situations, just providing the right amount of snark. That was until someone went after something she cares deeply about (her career). Then she just kind of lost it. 

[ryebread]

But, last night, when Brandi says "I had to push Kyle, because she pushed me". And Kim's response? "Where my pizza?" 

 

Yes.  Spoke volumes.  She just caused that entire shitstorm and once again, all she's worried about is herself.

[quinn]

But, last night, when Brandi says "I had to push Kyle, because she pushed me". And Kim's response? "Where my pizza?"  Ugh! Enough!

I'm horrible but I loved that and makes all the sturm and drang worth it! Kim was everything wrong and wonderful in that sequence - wanting her pizza, wailing about being caught between her sister and best friend, trying to extricate herself from Brandi to continue talking to Kyle, i.e., having drama with Kyle, and then upon realizing that Kyle was leaving for good, returned to Brandi's waiting arms and expressed concern over Brandi's booboo, be still my heart Kim Richards! Again I'm horrible, hell in a hand basket, yadda yadda. Edited January 23, 2015 by quinn

[Persnickety1]

So, when I grow up, I want to be Eileen. Calm, cool, collected and able to throw shade and snark so well, the person receiving it doesn't even know just how much they'll need neosporin for the burn they just got. Maybe her demeanor comes from her years on a soap but between that and her rocking, 55 year old bod, I have serious Eileen envy right now.

 

Instead, I'm too much like Lisa Rinna, and don't know when to shut up, and too much like Kyle, and get emotional and flighty. So, I have a long ways to go!

 

I wish Kyle had ripped a page from Eileen's playbook and handled everything more calmly. I wish, after Kim said "thanks a lot for that", Kyle had just said "Kim, I don't know what you mean by that but we'll discuss it later. Right now, it looks like you are leaving, so please be safe and text me to let me know you made it home. And, I'll call you tomorrow and we can talk more then. Bye, love you". That would have disarmed Brandi, showed that Kyle cared and not continued to play this addict/enabler dance that she and Kim know all the steps to by now.

 

I think in the car with Kyle, Lisa R. went into actress mode. The cameras were still rolling and the show must go on so I think she was talking to talk and fill the uncomfortable air around them. Yes, it felt really blabby but, I hate to say it, I probably would have done exactly the same thing given the circumstances, my nature, and being with someone like Kyle who I didn't know too well.

 

Well, that first look was one of the few first looks I've seen that actually was worth watching.

 

I agree.  I think everyone's emotions were all over the board and Lisa clearly was concerned about Kyle when she went to go ride with her.

 

I think she was trying to fill an awkward silence during which the cameras were still rolling, and I think she brought up Harry's brothers to show Kyle that she, Lisa, understood what dealing with an addict is like and that she had some personal experience in dealing with what Kyle was going through in that moment.

 

As for Brandi's assertions about Kyle's response about Kim's 2 am phone calls...It came from Brandi, not exactly a bastion of truth in spite of her self-proclaimed truth cannon status and who also appears to be inebriated greater than half of the time, so who knows if even really happened.  

 

It could also very well be that Kyle was setting boundaries based on the advice of a trained therapist in regards to dealing with Kim's antics.

 

On a lighter note, Eileen and Vince won the world last night, what with Eileen's telling Brandi to shut up and advising to get some Neosporin, and Vince for that window peeking.  Can you even imagine thinking all the guests have left, going in to nom on some tasty leftover pizza, and discovering there's all that fuck and awe going on in your front yard?

 

He's now officially my favorite house husband.  Curious enough to watch it unfold, smart enough not to stick his nose in the ladies' bullshit.  

Edited January 23, 2015 by Persnickety1

[quinn]

As for Brandi's assertions about Kyle's response about Kim's 2 am phone calls...It came from Brandi, not exactly a bastion of truth in spite of her self-proclaimed truth cannon status and who also appears to be inebriated greater than half of the time, so who knows if even really happened.

The way Brandi presented it, sober Kim is starting to get overwhelmed and needs Kyle's support, and while Kyle is not obligated to become involved, I see it as a negative against Kyle if she blew off Brandi's request to check on her sister. The thing is that I don't believe Brandi.

[glasscaseofemotion]

Eileen is a rock star in my book. Love, love, love her.  She handled the whole thing with perfection. I don't think we can compare Kyle in this situation, however. I am going to make a bet that before the season is over we will see Eileen lose her cool about something. That is just the way it all works out. It might not be something as emotional to her as a sibling or a family member, but I bet she will lose it. 

 

It reminds me of how shocking it was to see Carole lose control on the NY show. We were so use to her being calm in most situations, just providing the right amount of snark. That was until someone went after something she cares deeply about (her career). Then she just kind of lost it. 

 

Yeah, I get that Eileen could act detached because for her, it wasn't an act, she really was completely detached from the histrionics taking place in her driveway. For Kyle, it's a totally different scenario. But, Kyle should go get some therapy and work with a therapist on some roleplaying so she can learn to act concerned but aloof when this crap comes up - and it will definitely come up again.

[ryebread]

It reminds me of how shocking it was to see Carole lose control on the NY show. We were so use to her being calm in most situations, just providing the right amount of snark.

 

You just had to bring up that bitch Carole Radziwill, di'nt ya.  LOL

 

This is always my fear about the Hos.  Kyle is a good, current example.  She's getting a ton of love right now, when not too long ago, she was Vyle Kyle.  Bestie of the morally corrupt Faye Resnick.  Our opinions shift like the wind.  Which brings me to Eileen and Lisa.

 

For me, Eileen is perfection.  The only flaw I've seen thus far (and I hesitate to call it a flaw) is she has...'eccentric' taste. Decorating-wise. Imo. 

I don't think Bravo will mess too much with Eileen because she is TV royalty.  But I'm worried they're going to have Rinna for dinna.

[motorcitymom65]

http://stoopidhousewives.com/2015/01/23/rhobh-girls-night-fights-its-drunkotis-v-hagfacekyle-stlucianidol91-kylerichards-brandiglanville/

 

Here is the First Look-in case someone missed it.

So much to digest in this First Look.  For me, the part at the 4:40 mark is telling. Kim is trying to go after Kyle but Brandi tries to hold her. She says "who is gonna be there at 2AM"? Such manipulation.  Kim is a piece of shit for sure, but it looked like she was worried about Kyle and Brandi's words literally stopped her in her tracks. 

 

Interesting timing as well.  Brandi mentions in her TH that Kim has a lot going on because she is planning this wedding. We saw the wedding a few episodes back. 

[Satchels of gold]

I love that Elieen can say anything she wants to Brandi and nary a shut the fuck up in sight. How does she do it?? I guess thatBrandi is too drunk to even process what's she saying helps.

[ryebread]

I'm horrible but I loved that and makes all the sturm and drang worth it! Kim was everything wrong and wonderful in that sequence - wanting her pizza, wailing about being caught between her sister and best friend, trying to extricate herself from Brandi to continue talking to Kyle, i.e., having drama with Kyle, and then upon realizing that Kyle was leaving for good, returned to Brandi's waiting arms and expressed concern over Brandi's booboo, be still my heart Kim Richards! Again I'm horrible, hell in a hand basket, yadda yadda.

This is my most favorite post of the week.

 

You're not horrible, you're divine.  And absolutely right!  I used to watch these shows through eyes like that.  I take them way too seriously now.  Silly rabbit.

 

A couple weeks ago I wandered into the Vanderpump Rules forum. Quit watching last season because I decided I was just too damn old for that shit.  But reading the snark over there made me see those losers in a different light.  Don't get me wrong - they're still losers but they're losers that no longer pissed me off and made me weep for the future.  The brilliant posters over there are having a ball with them. They see all that is wrong and wonderful and are just playfully taking the piss out of them.  It's hilarious.

 

So, Kim wondering where her pizza was pissed me off, but what your post made me realize is that it really was awesome. I need to lighten up about these fame Hos.  And if there's one thing all of us should agree on is every last one of them are there for the fame.

Edited January 23, 2015 by ryebread

[cooksdelight]

I know where her pizza is. It's upside down on the tile floor. Where Brandi left it (in spite of her saying "I dropped it on the ground over there.")

[ryebread]

For me, the part at the 4:40 mark is telling. Kim is trying to go after Kyle but Brandi tries to hold her. She says "who is gonna be there at 2AM"? Such manipulation.

 

I was all squirmy trying to watch that.  So uncomfortable.  Like watching an emotional abuser.

[Leigh3]

I normally skip First Looks, but I am sooo glad I watched this one. LOVE LOVE Eileen! She seems to be the voice of reason. Personally I feel like she is the most relatable. She says things that we would all say..and many times do while yelling at the tv. The fact that Vince was peaking out the garage window, while grabbing leftover pizza, was the best  I only hope Eileen stays grounded and herself, but as history has shown if Bravo Andy says to get more airtime and increase chances of staying on the show she needs to get pissy and show her ass, she might change.

Also what was the deal with Brandi staring at the cameras while "helping" Kim? Anytime she had any dealings with Kim she would
break the 4th wall" and just stare at the camera. Odd. Looking for ward next week's episode  

[janie2002]

Jumping on the Eileen love train.

Brandi is sluring her words "I willllllll kill her" (like she is so bad ass)

And Eileen looks over with disgust and simple says "Shut Up"

 FAB. 

[walnutqueen]

Yes.  Spoke volumes.  She just caused that entire shitstorm and once again, all she's worried about is herself.

 

And pizza.  Let's not forget the pizza, which must've been hella good since she & Vince wanted some (or more).  :-)

 

 

 

I'm horrible but I loved that and makes all the sturm and drang worth it! Kim was everything wrong and wonderful in that sequence - wanting her pizza, wailing about being caught between her sister and best friend, trying to extricate herself from Brandi to continue talking to Kyle, i.e., having drama with Kyle, and then upon realizing that Kyle was leaving for good, returned to Brandi's waiting arms and expressed concern over Brandi's booboo, be still my heart Kim Richards! Again I'm horrible, hell in a hand basket, yadda yadda.

 

My sister.  My BFF.  My pizza.  Wait, who am I?  Where am I?  What are we doing, again?  I'm sooo confused.  Where's my purse?

 

I hope that's a handbasket built for two, quinn.  :-)

 

Come to the dark side, ryebread.   The VPR forum is even better than the show, which is so bad/good it is ridiculous!

 

Eileen is a goddess.  But this is Bravo - I almost want to stop watching before they do what they do.  Please let her be the exception to the Bravo rule.