S07.E08: Tea With A Side Of Squashed Beef

[cooksdelight]

Phaedra prepares for life as a single mom; Kenya agrees to sit down with NeNe, Cynthia and Porsha.

[cooksdelight]

I think Claudia's grandma could whoop Joyce's ass. And then some. She's Moms Mabley's long lost sister.

Loved the upside down Heinz ketchup bottles on the table at this upscale restaurant which NeNe picked to wear her Daisy Dukes and high heels. They must have been there a long time, it was daylight when they arrived and dark when it was over.

NeNe couldn't apologize if her life depended on it. Just nod her head and say "Um hmm" over and over. She initiated the meeting. You'd think the person extending the invitation would be the one most willing to make amends.

And Porsha can't apologize either. She can only allow Kenya to accept responsibility. Lord have mercy, keep these woman away from alcohol.

[poeticlicensed]

I hope Kandi is ashamed of herself and things she said about Sharon. I hope she realizes now how stupid and petty MJ is. 

 

Porsha is a dumbass with a potty mouth

[CaughtOnTape]

It may not have happened perfectly and clearly some people don't know how to apologize, but at least they can all shutup about their petty nonsense now.  Kenya rose up a few notches in my book for squashing it even though Porsha was wrong for what she did.  For once in a very long time it's nice to watch this show.

 

Although next week it looks like it's gonna go right back to the way it was before.  I don't understand these women....it looks like Kenya was all good with kissing NeNe's ass at dinner only to turn around next week and decide she's not going to anymore.  Like accepting an apology is one thing, it doesn't mean they need to be best friends now.  It seems like both Kenya and Cynthia expect that NeNe's supposed to greet them as if nothing happened.  I'm not saying she was blameless but I just don't think her acceptance of an apology (whether she made one in return or not) means she's suddenly supposed to go back to the way things were before.  And not for nothing but both Kenya and Cynthia also seem to have issues with confronting NeNe when she's in front of them and then talking shit in their TH's or when she's not around.  

 

Kandi....seriously?  Don't start none, won't be none huh?  Why did you tell your mother what Sharon said?  And then you blame it on Sharon....."Well she told me to."  WTF?  You are a grown ass woman.  Make your own damn decisions.

 

Kandi and Cynthia can both take a flying leap.  I'm done with their hypocritical bullshit.

[Lakewood27]

Nene looks stupid refusing to apologize for anything and just bobbing her struggle Marcel wave up and down. She thinks winning means never saying the words "I'm sorry". She is wrong.

[Brooklynista]

I sure do hope Kandi had the wedding of her dreams. I hope the dress was everything she wanted. Hope the DJ played every tune she wanted to hear. Hope the photographer got every family shot she needed in the album. Cause just about EERBODY in this room can see that that marriage is so very done.

Todd could not be more over the bullshit and I think it's more obvious to him that Kandi is never going to back him up against his mother. For a woman to expect you to accept her mother calling you the product of a whore and a pimp? And laugh it off and want you to do the same? That says something and Todd hears it loud and clear. The editing room is clearly Team Todd and they are they are framing his scenes w Kandi and her scenes with them bitches to help him move on out the door.

They really feel like the universe should just eat Joyce's shit and be glad to do it. And you had bet not say nan word to against her.

Edited December 29, 2014 by Brooklynista

[Bronzedog]

During some of this show, I felt like I was watching a foreign movie that needed subtitles. Trying to figure out what Kandi's aunts were saying almost gave me an amarism but Fortunately I take pills to keep The pressure down.I have to agree with Aydan when he told Mr. President "the world needs you."

[Pop Tart]

I was distracted by Porsha's backside whenever she was on screen. She looks like she had implants put in. Even seated there was this weird jutting out that I've never noticed before. That and she's Atlanta's Brandi.

[cooksdelight]

Pop Tart! Welcome! Have you met Toaster Strudel and EggoWaffles? :)

[quetzal]

Nene reaches out to Cynthia to meet up and discuss their issues. Cynthia apologizes, Nene blows her off and acts as if she's holier than thou and will need a couple years before they can get together for lunch or someshit. Bitch, bye.

[Pop Tart]

Thanks cooksdelight. One other note about Kandi. For someone who can't stand conflict when it comes to her own relationships, she sure does love to cause it in other people's relationships. There was no reason on earth for her to tell her mom what Sharon had said. She could have left it at "Sharon wants an apology" and been done with it. The rest was just to stir things up again.

Now I realize that the producers probably encourage her to be this tattletale so that things get stirred up, but she doesn't have to play along time and time again.

[Chrissytd]

Joyce looked like a damn fool when she walked into her sister's house waving her keys.

 

I'd take Grandma Lillian over Joyce any day.

Edited December 29, 2014 by Chrissytd

[Ubiquitous]

I've said it before: Kandi and Todd's marriage is DOOMED!

 

Porsha is a foul-mouthed moron.

 

Claudia's grandmother reminds me of "outragious" Auntie-Mamma.

 

Does this meeting of the mionds mean you won't hear their bash (re)hash any more?

[Bronzedog]

Umm, Joyce is a damn fool.

[cooksdelight]

I have a key to my father's house. He has one to mine. It's in case of emergency. He's elderly, and I check on him regularly. I was out of town once and my trip home was delayed, and he came over to check on and feed my cat.

I would like to think that's why Kandi wanted a key. Not to catch Joyce and her boyfriend nekkid.

The aunt wanting them to stop talking about keys and nekkid men cracked me up.

[drivethroo]

Kandi:

Kandi is the problem. Not Joyce. Kandi feels this need to runteldat to everyone, then act surprised people are upset. There was no need to Kandi to discuss Todd/Sharon/ToddDad with Joyce, them runteldat to Todd. There was no need for Kandi to runteldat to Joyce, Bertha & Nora about what Sharon said.

Not to mention how nasty she was during the pre-nup negotiations.

Kandi is the problem, and Todd is done.

Kandi can now say she was married. Go on and get the divorce. I hope the Bedroom Kandi keeps you warm at night.

Phaedra:

Instead of asking why Apollo married up, you need to ask yourself why YOU married down? Why would a college educated successful attorney marry a barely literate serial criminal who didn't want to work?

Phaedra got what she wanted, 2 kids born in wedlock. Apollo gone, move on chile. Fix it, Jesus.

Nene/Kenya/Cynthia/Porsha:

Fake, fake, fake but if Nene didn't want Kenya butting in she shouldn't have told Cynthia to bring Kenya.

Back on Kandi:

Kandi is so used to being the man and in control that she expects everyone (except her momma) to jump to it and it doesn't work that way. Good luck next time, girl.

[announcergirl]

I absolutely love Claudia's 90 year old grandma! She can hang with me anytime.

Claudia's points with me went up exponentiallly after seeing her mom and granny. I already liked her even though I think she likes Kenya but bites her tongue with her. I have a friend who I disagree with about values and etc. but I bite my tongue for the sake of peace and trying not to be judgmental. So, I think I see it in that relationship.

[The Mighty Peanut]

I think I get why Nene brought Porsha along...that way, when she didn't apologize for anything ever she still managed to look humble in comparison to the woman who can't admit it was wrong to pull another human being across a soundstage by the hair. But she ACKNOWLEDGES it so who cares. I acknowledge that at some point on a certain day in which I was alive events may have occurred; LOL, how magnanimous, Porsha. The statue of limitations on apologies must've run out.

Edited December 30, 2014 by The Mighty Peanut

[Chicklet]

It's official, I have moved from distaining Kandi, and her jackass of a mother, to actual hate. She's killing this marriage and she doesn't even care because She's Right in her own mind.

Her motto makes sense now. She don't start none (with her mother) and there won't be none (with her mother). Everyone else can just jump off a bridge.

[Brooklynista]

I wanted Kandi to speak to knowing she just bought Joyce and HER MAN a house. Dumb ass. How does she knowingly buy an upgrade house for the man who tore up the original house. Joyce got herself a real good sucker in Kandi.

Edited December 29, 2014 by Brooklynista

[announcergirl]

Kandi is definitely the issue. She is emtionally immature and does not know how to have a discussion and to compromise.

[cooksdelight]

WTF was up with Kandi blaming Todd for not solving the problem with her no-sale of tickets to her play? Blame the asshole you hired as a PR man, Kandi.

[cyberfruit]

Ayden continues to be the light of my life every Sunday evening. Lord, that boy is so precious. 

[Bronzedog]

Run Todd! Run! You know you want to!

[LotusFlower]

WTF was up with Kandi blaming Todd for not solving the problem with her no-sale of tickets to her play? Blame the asshole you hired as a PR man, Kandi.

It's possible, maybe even probable, that the guy hired to promote the play dropped the ball. But isn't it also possible that ticket sales were soft because no one wants to see an autographical play about Kandi and Mama Joyce called "A Mother's Love?" Just two minutes of these two on screen and I'm ready to change the channel. Joyce and her sisters are horrible, and watching Kandi disrespect Todd and his mother makes me cringe. "A Mother's Manipulation" is more like it. I'll pass on this ticket and wait for the next tour of Dreamgirls, thank you very much.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

:sits and waits for Kandi's turn with the RHOA's Divorce Attorney:

[cooksdelight]

It's possible, maybe even probable, that the guy hired to promote the play dropped the ball. But isn't it also possible that ticket sales were soft because no one wants to see an autographical play about Kandi and Mama Joyce called "A Mother's Love?" Just two minutes of these two on screen and I'm ready to change the channel. Joyce and her sisters are horrible, and watching Kandi disrespect Todd and his mother makes me cringe. "A Mother's Manipulation" is more like it. I'll pass on this ticket and wait for the next tour of Dreamgirls, thank you very much.

Good point. The play ran last fall, the season previous to this one ran and we all got to see Joyce at her finest. That may have been the real nail in the coffin. But I still don't get why Kandi felt the need to bitch at Todd for not coming up with a plan to save it.

[ToukieSmith]

Todd knew who Kandi was before he married her.  I have no sympathy.  I don't want to hear Kandi whining about her mother's attitude when she is enabling it.  I have no sympathy.

 

Porsha's attitude is terrible.  The apology is not about Kenya.  When you are wrong, you apologize.  Period.

 

Why do these people keep saying "Roger Bob?"  Isn't his first name sufficient?  His name is said more than Nene's........

 

I finally figured out who Claudia reminds me of.....Jayne Kennedy.

Edited December 29, 2014 by ToukieSmith

[HunterHunted]

It's possible, maybe even probable, that the guy hired to promote the play dropped the ball. But isn't it also possible that ticket sales were soft because no one wants to see an autographical play about Kandi and Mama Joyce called "A Mother's Love?" Just two minutes of these two on screen and I'm ready to change the channel. Joyce and her sisters are horrible, and watching Kandi disrespect Todd and his mother makes me cringe. "A Mother's Manipulation" is more like it. I'll pass on this ticket and wait for the next tour of Dreamgirls, thank you very much.

Especially when we've seen the bulk of the story already on RHoA during the past 2 years. Generally, I'm just done with Kandi. If she wants ruin her marriage so be it. I just don't want to watch her doing it.

[LotusFlower]

Good point. The play ran last fall, the season previous to this one ran and we all got to see Joyce at her finest. That may have been the real nail in the coffin. But I still don't get why Kandi felt the need to bitch at Todd for not coming up with a plan to save it.

Because Kandi doesn't see it as we do. I think she sees her mother and aunts as endearing or entertaining, or at the very least, her momma, and looking out for her is the right thing to do. In her mind, she's right and Todd is wrong. In our minds, Kandi is delusional.

[Chicklet]

 

But I still don't get why Kandi felt the need to bitch at Todd for not coming up with a plan to save it.

 

If you consider who raised Kandi ,Todd should consider himself lucky that he isn't blamed for tornadoes, hurricanes, or blizzards. Well he already got tagged with having having a "pimp and a prostitute" as parents.

MJ isn't responsible for anything so the nut didn't fall far from that tree.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Todd knew who Kandi was before he married her.  I have no sympathy.  I don't want to hear Kandi whining about her mother's attitude when she is enabling it.  I have no sympathy..

 

 

         Todd  now realizes the price for a come up, is too high to pay.

 

         The fact that he's stalling on the baby plans, speaks volumes. 

          When this marriage ends, he plans to escape w/o anything to tie him to Kandi.

          Like a child would.

[Brooklynista]

I'm so not looking forward to another Reunion of Kandi sitting on the couch, crying about how much she love her momma and what we all see/say about Joyce is wrong and she ain't gonna turn her back in Joyce for anybody.

We can't all be wrong Kandi.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

I'm so not looking forward to another Reunion of Kandi sitting on the couch, crying about how much she love her momma and what we all see/say about Joyce is wrong and she ain't gonna turn her back in Joyce for anybody.

We can't all be wrong Kandi.

 

 

        Think the next tears will be due to the dust cloud, from Todd's car when he hits the gas and leaves her simple ass.  

[LotusFlower]

We can't all be wrong Kandi.

This is so true. Does she read the blogs? I know she gets slammed on Twitter. And the show's edit is not her friend either. Will she ever get it?

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Claudia's Grandma is so messy, in a good way.

 

The sex talk was hilarious and her mother's reaction was priceless.

[HunterHunted]

This is so true. Does she read the blogs? I know she gets slammed on Twitter. And the show's edit is not her friend either. Will she ever get it?

I think Kandi may think she gets a bad edit because Todd came from production and they still have loyalties to him. While that might be true, the show can't use what you don't give them. And Kandi gives the show plenty of foolishness.

Edited December 29, 2014 by HunterHunted

[CaughtOnTape]

I have a key to my father's house. He has one to mine. It's in case of emergency. He's elderly, and I check on him regularly. I was out of town once and my trip home was delayed, and he came over to check on and feed my cat.

I would like to think that's why Kandi wanted a key. Not to catch Joyce and her boyfriend nekkid.

 

This is also true for me.  My father still lives in the house I grew up in and I have ALWAYS had a key and freely walk in and out as if I still live there.  He is in failing health and has spent the better part of the last two years putting my brother's and my name on EVERYTHING to make sure we are denied access to nothing if something happens to him.  No doctor will ever tell me they can't talk to me without my father's permission and that goes double for his bills.  This is for safety.  Not because I'm interested in keeping tabs on my father and using the information against him.  The fact that Kandi doesn't see a big red flag by the attitude her mother displays about the key is sad.  

 

I hope the old broad keels over in her kitchen when she's all alone and ends up croaking because no one can get in the house.

[twilightzone]

Because Kandi doesn't see it as we do. I think she sees her mother and aunts as endearing or entertaining, or at the very least, her momma, and looking out for her is the right thing to do. In her mind, she's right and Todd is wrong. In our minds, Kandi is delusional.

But the big difference is that viewers only see edited glimpses of their relationships - where the drama is heighten for "reality tv".  If everyone got along, then viewers would say it's boring.  And people love to talk about Kandi, MJ, etc.

[HunterHunted]

It makes me wish Joyce would have an amarism and no one would have a key to the house.

Edited December 29, 2014 by HunterHunted

[Brooklynista]

Joyce can't let Kandi have keys to this new house. What if Kandi pops up and sees how Benny has torn up this house too. Keeping her in the dark is for her own good.

Joyce and Benny can prance around in their drawers as they strip the plumbing out of the place.

[cooksdelight]

Joyce won't allow anything to happen to a house that's in her name. I bet the BF doesn't have a key either.

[swankie]

Ayden continues to be the light of my life every Sunday evening. Lord, that boy is so precious.

 

 

He is one adorable little boy.  And Mr. President seems to be very jealous of his big brother.  This isn't the first time we've seen him try to clobber Ayden.  Mr. President looks JUST LIKE PHAEDRA!  Even his facial expressions are just like his mom's.  They are both very cute kids.

 

I cracked up at how the demeanor of the Old Lady Gang changed when Kandi revealed that Sharon said she would hit Joyce in the mouth.  The expressions on their faces said, "Oh hell no!!! It's on bitch!"  Kandi is such an idiot and is very immature.  I would never have relayed that message to her mother if for no other reason than to make sure that when Sharon and Joyce do happen to be in the same room, there is no attempt at a physical confrontation.  By telling Joyce that, she's insuring that an altercation will happen.  I wonder how Kandi feels now watching this after Sharon's death.  I hope she feels shame, but I doubt it.  She probably feels disappointed that there won't be anymore storyline between Joyce and Sharon for her to revel in.  smdh

Edited December 29, 2014 by swankie

[LotusFlower]

But the big difference is that viewers only see edited glimpses of their relationship...

It's true. I bet the unedited version shows tons more manipulation on MJ's part. And a lot more ugliness, too. And from Kandi - even more passivity and eye-rolling.

[HunterHunted]

I'm not saying I want Marlo back, but Nene desperately needs her now that "the gays" have issued a fashion fatwa. That wig, her contouring mess, those cut-offs, those men do not care for her and it shows. They are handing her potato sacks, mop heads, and clown make up and going fierce! Yesssss hunty! While they laugh and kiki behind her back.

[hoosier80]

Todd had a line about how it was Joyce that started the entire problem - after Kandi tried to say shit about his mother - well she told me to tell my mama.  He is so over it all.  I think that he was thinking/hoping that once they were married, Kandi would start to have his back.  Nope it's she's my mama, I have to do everything for her, no matter what.  You can love your mother, but if they do something that is inappropriate, you can have an adult conversation and tell them you think they were inappropriate.  The problem is that Kandi is immature and Joyce is a shebeast.  

 

I think someone needs to submit a reunion question for Kandi - ok so I heard your mama was a ho and your daddy was her pimp.  So you were the result.  How do you feel?  Do you feel like laughing?  You are basically laughing about the fact that your husband has been called the product of a ho and a pimp - and laughed at it.  Then you reward your mama, who said the heinous remarks by buying her and her boyfriend (who tore up the other house) a new more expensive house.  Will you be laughing as your marriage falls apart?  Are you laughing at your husband's pain and his deceased mother's pain?

 

Porsha is as dumb as a box of hair - actually hair has a function.  Nene needs a stylist (or a new one).  Little dutch boy ho is not a look.

[islandgal140]

Wow, this show was actually an hour this week. No tacked on WWHL.

 

I am done with Kandi.

 

So Todd pressed the pause button, which could amount to a stop button considering Kandi's age, on the baby issue and NOW is suggesting that they spend holidays separate and apart from each other? Kandi' response??! Basically respond that everyone has to eat whatever shit Joyce is serving. She refuses to curb that rabid, mushroom wig wearing pitbull of a mother of her. What kills me is that Todd isn't even asking her to wrap a choke chain around her neck (probably wouldn't hurt though) or have her put down but stop giving her fucking Scooby snacks and snausages (i.e. a house) every time she shits on the rug and bites someone.

 

That separate holiday suggestion was a cry for some action from Todd. He was giving her one last chance to squash this shit and make Joyce feel consequences for her bad behavior. A test which Kandi failed miserably.

 

Kandi your ass betta get used to that scene of you, your Kraken ass moms, dinosaur Aunt Baby "Not the mama" Sinclair, and shaky voiced aunt  eating fried chicken, biscuits and mashed potaoters and not a veggie in sight, 'cause that is about to be your life. Well, that tremendous weight gain & diabetes if y'all continue to eat like that. Damn, Kandi couldn't even wait for the prayer. But I digress. You about to be without a huzzbin. The only thing missing from that scene was a bubbling cauldron. Kandi telling that story with all that funk in her voice was an ugly sight to behold.

 

Todd was really acting like he gave not a fuck about you or your "Mother's Love" problems. I don't blame his ass for not offering up any advice. Look what happened the last time he gave some business advice to Kandi which had her employees up in arms about it. It really doesn't pay to be Kandi's husband. 

 

For a minute there when Joyce came into the house jingling some keys I thought Kandi rewarded her with a new car. 

 

 

Kandi is the problem. Not Joyce. Kandi feels this need to runteldat to everyone, then act surprised people are upset. There was no need to Kandi to discuss Todd/Sharon/ToddDad with Joyce, them runteldat to Todd. There was no need for Kandi to runteldat to Joyce, Bertha & Nora about what Sharon said.

 

Not exactly. Kandi is runtelldat with shit that doesn't blow back or make her moms look bad. Her ass was quiet as a church mouse about Joyce calling Todd's mom a ho. Todd didn't know about that shit until the show aired. This makes me dislike her ass even more. She is complicit in her mom's nastiness. 

 

I like Derek J but I really wish the film crew would stop filming him from behind. Tired of looking at that pack of franks on the back of his neck.

 

Anyone else peep the picture of a young Derek J who seemed to be about 50-75 lbs lighter in his salon? I died.

 

LOL! Nene coming into the restaurant and saying she was looking for someone with a lot of weave.

 

Kenya's buttinski antics were getting on my nerve too (screaming CYNTHIA how many times from across the table?) but damn at Porsha's reaction. 

 

Nene's attitude and failure to make apologies for her bad behavior is an ugly sight to behold. Much like Nene in anything backless or in those cut off shorts and heels.

Edited December 29, 2014 by islandgal140

[ToukieSmith]

 

Anyone else peep the picture of a young Derek J who seemed to be about 50-75 lbs lighter in his salon? I died.

I caught that.  He looked like a young Lorraine Toussaint in that photo, loll.

[cooksdelight]

I loved the drag queen bar scenes with Claudia and her mom and Granny. I was watching the streets she was nearing once she got into town to try to figure out where she was headed.

[poeticlicensed]

This show confounds me. When they showed the name of the restaurant where the howives were having drinks, I looked it up. It's all the way out in Duluth, which is easily 30 miles outside Atlanta. I have heard some of the complaining on this and other franchises that they had to drive a long way to film. Why would they choose to fil so far out of the city when I believe most of the live inside the perimeter.