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9 hours ago, Lassus said:

Oh, I think he SHOULD go.  But I can see why in the "no such thing as bad publicity" way why they might not decide to do (or announce) that RIGHT NOW is all.

Let's be honest. This show was on life support before the news of the affair broke. I have admitted I stopped watching during Jax and Brittney's wedding season but, like Kristen, I'm back. No chance Sandoval is getting fired. And let's not forget, Andy never felt compelled to fire Jen Shaw, Teresa Guidice ir Erika Jayne, all of whom participated in hurting a lot of people financially. All Tom did was cheat. I'm not defending him, he is awful, but there is no crime here. And, clearly, it wouldn't matter if there was.

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11 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

My favorite moment was her telling the Sur assistant manager to mind her own business (might have been much stronger language than that), then defiantly lighting a cigarette. That, and her saying “I’m leaving my own damn house” when Katie and Stassi (I think) were tearing into Carter at the housewarming.

Come back, Kristen, all is forgiven, LOL.

If memory serves, Kristin told that manager to "Suck a dick" or "suck MY dick" whichever.  I still want to say that to my old boss (who was a total see you next tuesday)!

But... thank you Jeebus, the bitch found another job. YAY!

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11 hours ago, ZettaK said:

And again, we knew the reunion would have a million parts to take advantage of ratings. Some episodes this season had double the viewership than episodes during the last couple of years!

I'm still cynical enough to think there's not enough material for four parts and the best stuff will be in the first and last of them.

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15 hours ago, chlban said:

Let's be honest. This show was on life support before the news of the affair broke. I have admitted I stopped watching during Jax and Brittney's wedding season but, like Kristen, I'm back. No chance Sandoval is getting fired. And let's not forget, Andy never felt compelled to fire Jen Shaw, Teresa Guidice ir Erika Jayne, all of whom participated in hurting a lot of people financially. All Tom did was cheat. I'm not defending him, he is awful, but there is no crime here. And, clearly, it wouldn't matter if there was.

Unless she's a serious masochist, Rachel may likely be the one to leave because Lala and the gang will be throwing word daggers at her every second she's in the same room with them. Can she withstand that?

They will say cruel things to Sandoval, too, but he can take it. He is such an egotistical bastard that he will be desperate to repair his extremely damaged reputation.

I kept shaking my head at the crap coming out of Raquel's mouth throughout the episode because something is so not right with that girl. I can't imagine what she was thinking or that he's good enough in bed to soil her reputation like this. Does she think he's her forever guy? Stupid, stupid girl.

 

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What she is doing to Ariana is heartbreaking. The word friend has a very deep meaning to me, not something you hand out like samples at Costco. The vacant, dead look on her face, when talking to Ariana, is astounding. Curious how she reacts to her during the reunion. Raquel told us she does not have regrets in her life (convo w James), and appears to be unaffected by things other than beauty pageants, so mine would "be dead to me".

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13 hours ago, Gharlane said:

I'm still cynical enough to think there's not enough material for four parts and the best stuff will be in the first and last of them.

But Kristen will probably be in part 2 or 3! 😃

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I don’t think anyone should get fired. That’s kind of dumb honestly. The show is about drama. Tom is trash sure but this whole thing made the show interesting to watch again. I was thinking of quitting watching before the affair came out. I don’t think anyone should get cheated on how it happened but it’s not like Tom was beating on Ariana. Getting fired would be a bit extreme.

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The issue that I see with Tom is that now he has entered the 100% completely unlikeable zone. It’s not about cheating. It’s the complete package.

I cannot believe the things that Lisa has tolerated from her employees.

Raquel arrives 1.5 hours late to a meeting and is highly nonchalant about it due to being in a jacuzzi with the Tom’s??! And his responses to Lisa are highly disgusting and highly disrespectful. Referring to her as dude, laughing, and most of all His NONSTOP LIES. At this point, Tom’s behavior is impacting Lisa’s business. 
 

It is stunning what she tolerates from her crew. I’ve worked in restaurants and people have been fired for far less.

I don’t see the difference between Tom and Jax. Only Jax was more entertaining. Everything about Tom stinks. The work ethic is SHOCKING. His priorities are shocking. He drives a new Mercedes? Yet borrows money from his mother’s life savings? Oh sure, don’t forget his “brand.” Would Rachel fall for him hard if he drove a Honda? Jax is correct, everything about Tom is for show.

He cannot get his act together to focus on finishing the required restaurant issues, drinks names, etc… bc he is a self indulgent child. His nails are a priority? He leaves Arianna at home alone when her Grandmother died, and LIED nonstop about the reason? He could not comfort a friend?.!? He’s disgusting. 

He is a nonstop LIAR. The show will tank after this temporary hike in viewers.

Hurrah for Lala & Katie being 100% correct.

And YES, Arianna considered Rachel a close friend, like a little sister, as psycho Rachel led her on. Look at her disgusting lies at her birthday dinner. At some point when there is so much that is unlikeable, you enter a danger zone.

At least tasting the sandwiches seemed fun. Arianna must be depressed, despite trying to stay busy. May she stay strong.
 

 

 

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2 hours ago, MaggieG said:

I actually like the funky décor. I really like the starry night ceiling thing. The prices however.

I think the starry night ceiling was what they were fixated on even before work started on that place. Like the restaurant shot, but the lounge is just a little much for me…

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17 hours ago, nexxie said:

It is in a strip mall, and not an upscale one, but that's what the Toms wanted, the lounge to be at a "hip" neighborhood. 

I called the decor maximalistic weeks ago. 

It's nice the music is good because that's important for a bar (and this is a bar that offers some food, not the other way around).

At least the drinks are good because that's supposedly their specialty.

I consider the prices average (not really expensive). They are similar to the prices here (Palm Beach County, Florida), and not at the most upscale places. The lounge is in Los Angeles after all. 

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The Toms were supposed to film Winter House S3 in Colorado, but specifically Sandoval couldn't make it because of the after season filming for VR (Scandoval). Schwartz was seen in Colorado, and it's possible Sandoval eventually made it at the end of filming. 

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Okay, not really “staff in the media,” but SUR itself, including up-close photos of the goat cheese balls.

This Is What It's Actually Like Visiting SUR — The OG Los Angeles Restaurant From "Vanderpump Rules" — In 2023
A full decade after the show's premiere, the goat cheese balls are a must, Peter still works there, the bathroom is confusing as hell, and nothing costs less than $12. Not even bread and butter.

Read in BuzzFeed: https://apple.news/AfQF1SHBQR82sb3tfNq7DqA

 

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This one is pretty interesting! Sounds like production also tried to get Ariana to see the problems with Tom but she was completely resistant to hearing anything from anyone about him. 


Lala Kent: Ariana Madix had 'meltdown' about relationship pre-Scandoval
"She says, 'I'm not doing this. Production always tries to do this to my relationship,'" Kent claimed Madix said while filming last week's episode.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/A_gH6BDzWQ426pYHQy2ckKg

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I heard somewhere Jax and Brittany are coming back to VPR in season 11. It was on tiktok and Heather McDonald said it I think. Does anyone know if this is actually true. I tried googling but didn’t really find anything.

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1 hour ago, Marley said:

I heard somewhere Jax and Brittany are coming back to VPR in season 11. It was on tiktok and Heather McDonald said it I think. Does anyone know if this is actually true. I tried googling but didn’t really find anything.

I can't see Lisa wanting them back, so probably not.

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17 minutes ago, aussieinsydney said:

I can't see Lisa wanting them back, so probably not.

Haha the only reason she wanted Jax gone was because he had the nerve to call it "his" show on camera - enough time has passed; they're back in the limelight due to the "scandoval" and I'm sure enough "Lisa's so wonderful and does so much for us . . . Thank you Lisa"'s have gone on for them to be welcomed back 😄

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6 hours ago, JenE4 said:

This one is pretty interesting! Sounds like production also tried to get Ariana to see the problems with Tom but she was completely resistant to hearing anything from anyone about him. 


Lala Kent: Ariana Madix had 'meltdown' about relationship pre-Scandoval
"She says, 'I'm not doing this. Production always tries to do this to my relationship,'" Kent claimed Madix said while filming last week's episode.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/A_gH6BDzWQ426pYHQy2ckKg

I read that production followed Ariana's lead- her version of nothing happening with Sandoval and Raquel. 

3 hours ago, Marley said:

I heard somewhere Jax and Brittany are coming back to VPR in season 11. It was on tiktok and Heather McDonald said it I think. Does anyone know if this is actually true. I tried googling but didn’t really find anything.

It's possible Kristen might be asked to return. I don't want to see Jax and Brittany. 

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I cannot wait.  I was cracking up at Arianna calling them "sub-human" and then James chimes in "poo poo heads."  Dead.  I cannot wait.  (Even though I know they're going to make it eleventy billion hours long with only 20 minutes of juicy footage.)

Does anyone know what Andy gives Scheana?

ETA:  Hmmh, it looks like Raquel and Scheana aren't on the stage at the same time.

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1 hour ago, lasu said:

I cannot wait.  I was cracking up at Arianna calling them "sub-human" and then James chimes in "poo poo heads."  Dead.  I cannot wait.  (Even though I know they're going to make it eleventy billion hours long with only 20 minutes of juicy footage.)

Does anyone know what Andy gives Scheana?

ETA:  Hmmh, it looks like Raquel and Scheana aren't on the stage at the same time.

I think it's the stupid restraining order.

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Also, I couldn't believe my ears when she tried to compare herself and Tom to Lala and James, calling them hypocrites. It was another example of how fucking stupid she is because Lala was not her friend and as I recall was extremely dismissive of the dim-wit. 

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2 hours ago, lasu said:

I cannot wait.  I was cracking up at Arianna calling them "sub-human" and then James chimes in "poo poo heads."  Dead.  I cannot wait. 

I like when he called Sandy a "worm with a mustache" 😂

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1 hour ago, sandwoman said:

How can Raquel say they are NOT pathological liars?! Does she not know what lying means???

Hmmm - can a pathological liar admit to being one; or do we have to believe the opposite of everything she says?

And did Charlie say there were diamonds in that over-priced lightening bolt necklace? Could anyone spot them?

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Sooo...take the following with a huge grain of salt but stumbled upon these blind items through some Bravo accounts I follow on Instagram

-Word on the street is Schwartz is in Sydney, Australia and was spilling the beans.  He was at a bar on Tuesday night and shared:

-He knew Rachel and Sandy hooked up on jacuzzi night but Sandy told him it was a one time thing.  Schwartz was shocked by the affair and it messed up his relationship with Sandy

-Schwartz and Sandy's is making no money

-Rachel is legit in a mental health facility and they are concerned about her harming herself

-He still misses Katie and wouldn't stop talking about her, but they aren't together

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Marigold66 said:

Sooo...take the following with a huge grain of salt but stumbled upon these blind items through some Bravo accounts I follow on Instagram

-Word on the street is Schwartz is in Sydney, Australia and was spilling the beans.  He was at a bar on Tuesday night and shared:

-He knew Rachel and Sandy hooked up on jacuzzi night but Sandy told him it was a one time thing.  Schwartz was shocked by the affair and it messed up his relationship with Sandy

-Schwartz and Sandy's is making no money

-Rachel is legit in a mental health facility and they are concerned about her harming herself

-He still misses Katie and wouldn't stop talking about her, but they aren't together

 

 

Rachel needs a mental health facility.  She needs to figure out who she is before she comes back to the show.  She was simply awful.

No pity for Schwartz missing Katie.  She gave him ample opportunities and he just crapped all over them.  There was no way that marriage could be saved.

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13 minutes ago, Marigold66 said:

Word on the street is Schwartz is in Sydney, Australia and was spilling the beans.  He was at a bar on Tuesday night and shared:

I know he was doing that other reality Mars show and I thought I read somewhere they were filming in another country. Maybe that’s why Australia?

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Rachel is legit in a mental health facility and they are concerned about her harming herself

Well she definitely needs the help, and I hope she gets it,  but I'm still thinking she might just be diagnosed an asshole. You cannot use your mental health as a shield to protect you from the consequences of lying to and betraying a woman who was a good friend to you.

Having said that the absolute best schaden that could happen is she will get her head together and realize what she did and the man she did it for, and dump him right on his ass. Like bae frying pan/fire at least James has the excuse of youth, unlike the 41 year old teenager you think your are in love with now. 

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5 hours ago, Marigold66 said:

Sooo...take the following with a huge grain of salt but stumbled upon these blind items through some Bravo accounts I follow on Instagram

-Word on the street is Schwartz is in Sydney, Australia and was spilling the beans.  He was at a bar on Tuesday night and shared:

 

 

 

 

 

Aw bless. Does he not know that we hate him down here too? 😂

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On 5/11/2023 at 6:53 PM, Marigold66 said:

Sooo...take the following with a huge grain of salt but stumbled upon these blind items through some Bravo accounts I follow on Instagram

-Word on the street is Schwartz is in Sydney, Australia and was spilling the beans.  He was at a bar on Tuesday night and shared:

-He knew Rachel and Sandy hooked up on jacuzzi night but Sandy told him it was a one time thing.  Schwartz was shocked by the affair and it messed up his relationship with Sandy

-Schwartz and Sandy's is making no money

-Rachel is legit in a mental health facility and they are concerned about her harming herself

-He still misses Katie and wouldn't stop talking about her, but they aren't together

 

 

With every week’s worth of new footage, my suspicion that Rachel may not be back is reinforced.  The more I’ve thought about it, though, the more I believe that for the sake of her current and future mental health, she probably shouldn’t be.   

I wonder how in the hell Bravo is thinking that will go if she IS back?  They were already limited enough with the Schwartz and Katie weirdness, now there is a whole new level of weirdness involving 5 people instead of just 2. It’s like one big awkward pretzel.  I imagine there will be plenty of refusals to film with other cast members - and understandably so.  

Has anyone heard any good spitballin theories on how that might play out?  

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8 hours ago, Marigold66 said:

Sooo...take the following with a huge grain of salt but stumbled upon these blind items through some Bravo accounts I follow on Instagram

-Word on the street is Schwartz is in Sydney, Australia and was spilling the beans.  He was at a bar on Tuesday night and shared:

-He knew Rachel and Sandy hooked up on jacuzzi night but Sandy told him it was a one time thing.  Schwartz was shocked by the affair and it messed up his relationship with Sandy

-Schwartz and Sandy's is making no money

-Rachel is legit in a mental health facility and they are concerned about her harming herself

-He still misses Katie and wouldn't stop talking about her, but they aren't together

 

 

Schwartz said this before, that Sandoval told him in August (I assume jacuzzi night) it was a one time thing, but he later found out it started again/continued. 

As for Schwartz & Sandy's, no business is profitable for at least a couple of years, so I wouldn't worry (yet).

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16 hours ago, sandwoman said:

How can Raquel say they are NOT pathological liars?! Does she not know what lying means???

She might understand lying, but pretty sure "Pathological" has way too many syllables for her. Conniving does not equal intelligent.

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5 hours ago, CallmeCray said:

With every week’s worth of new footage, my suspicion that Rachel may not be back is reinforced.  The more I’ve thought about it, though, the more I believe that for the sake of her current and future mental health, she probably shouldn’t be.   

I wonder how in the hell Bravo is thinking that will go if she IS back?  They were already limited enough with the Schwartz and Katie weirdness, now there is a whole new level of weirdness involving 5 people instead of just 2.   It’s like one big awkward pretzel.  I imagine there will be plenty of refusals to film with other cast members - and understandably so.  

Has anyone heard any good spitballin theories on how that might play out?  

Maybe. From what I have learned over my BRAVO years is that the others refusing to film with someone is one of the few things they get fired for. However, the number one reason for getting fired is being boring and this is not boring. I am just not sure here that anyone will refuse to film with anyone else. They are famewhore's and, let's be real,  This cast isn't like Housewives shows where many of them already make, or their husband's do, a good living. What are these chuckleheads going to do for money when this clown show is over? While Raquel would likely be the one that can't take the immense heat, but I think she may be the biggest famewhore of them all. Unpopular opinion here, but I hope they bring Kristen back. This situation needs her particular brand of cazy.

 

On 5/10/2023 at 4:48 PM, JenE4 said:

This one is pretty interesting! Sounds like production also tried to get Ariana to see the problems with Tom but she was completely resistant to hearing anything from anyone about him. 


Lala Kent: Ariana Madix had 'meltdown' about relationship pre-Scandoval
"She says, 'I'm not doing this. Production always tries to do this to my relationship,'" Kent claimed Madix said while filming last week's episode.

Read in Page Six: https://apple.news/A_gH6BDzWQ426pYHQy2ckKg

That has always been Arianna. She was a little too sure of herself from the beginning. You have to wonder how many other red flags there were that she totally ignored.

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2 hours ago, chlban said:

Maybe. From what I have learned over my BRAVO years is that the others refusing to film with someone is one of the few things they get fired for. However, the number one reason for getting fired is being boring and this is not boring. I am just not sure here that anyone will refuse to film with anyone else. They are famewhore's and, let's be real,  This cast isn't like Housewives shows where many of them already make, or their husband's do, a good living. What are these chuckleheads going to do for money when this clown show is over? While Raquel would likely be the one that can't take the immense heat, but I think she may be the biggest famewhore of them all. Unpopular opinion here, but I hope they bring Kristen back. This situation needs her particular brand of cazy.

 

That has always been Arianna. She was a little too sure of herself from the beginning. You have to wonder how many other red flags there were that she totally ignored.

I think it would be a big, big, huge mistake for Raquel to return to filming VPR. Not just because she was a deceitful skank but because if her mental health struggle is real, the experience could calm a lot of harm because nobody likes her. Also, unlike the others who have career ambitions other than serving at SUR, and because there are likely only one or two seasons of this show left, she needs to start thinking about what she's going to do with the rest of her real life.

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Tom Sandoval Got Booed While Shirtless at Bonkers NYC Concert

It was hardly a sold-out show, but it was a raucous one—and we were there. Some attendees came to defend him. Some come to mock him. Almost everyone asked to be anonymous.

 “I've never seen such a narcissist—like a real deal narcissist, in person—acting like that before. It was very, like, ‘I want all this attention.’ He was eating up the few applause [breaks] that he was getting, you know?”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/tom-sandoval-got-booed-at-new-york-city-concert-amid-scandal

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On 5/11/2023 at 4:25 PM, politichick said:

Also, I couldn't believe my ears when she tried to compare herself and Tom to Lala and James, calling them hypocrites. It was another example of how fucking stupid she is because Lala was not her friend and as I recall was extremely dismissive of the dim-wit. 

And It occurred in the beginning of their relationship, but certainly not continuously for anywhere near 7 months! 

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17 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

Tom Sandoval Got Booed While Shirtless at Bonkers NYC Concert

It was hardly a sold-out show, but it was a raucous one—and we were there. Some attendees came to defend him. Some come to mock him. Almost everyone asked to be anonymous.

 “I've never seen such a narcissist—like a real deal narcissist, in person—acting like that before. It was very, like, ‘I want all this attention.’ He was eating up the few applause [breaks] that he was getting, you know?”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/tom-sandoval-got-booed-at-new-york-city-concert-amid-scandal

I've never seen such a narcissist—like a real deal narcissist, in person—acting like that before. It was very, like, ‘I want all this attention'".

"This is all such an expensive midlife crisis." Sandoval invested a lot of money in the 10 piece band, and the tour.

And he cannot sing (this is from me).

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On 5/11/2023 at 5:16 PM, politichick said:

I think it's the stupid restraining order.

There was already a temporary restraining order, and Raquel and Scheana were not on the reunion stage at the same time. But Raquel gave a letter from her attorney to Andy Cohen to give to Scheana with a request to dismiss a legal complaint or lawsuit (the restraining order). This was not a valid procedure because it should go through court, and I think it was more of a PR, or theatrical gesture. 

https://pagesix.com/2023/03/23/raquel-served-scheana-papers-with-no-legal-meaning-at-vpr-reunion/

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On 5/11/2023 at 5:25 PM, politichick said:

Also, I couldn't believe my ears when she tried to compare herself and Tom to Lala and James, calling them hypocrites. It was another example of how fucking stupid she is because Lala was not her friend and as I recall was extremely dismissive of the dim-wit. 

Regardless,  LaLa is the last person who should be giving her opinion on this matter.

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On 5/3/2023 at 5:37 AM, RoseAllDay said:

BREAKING NEWS…Andy will NOT — I repeat — will NOT fire Sandoval. 

Not surprising.  Cohen has no principles and no standards.  

But America might be happy to fire the both of them.  I've already deleted from my DVR.  

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