Spoiler Discussion: The apple was poisoned?!

[janett snakehole]

I barely care about anything on this show anymore, but I did have hopes that they would make a dress that would be pretty and flatter Jen. This is Emma's fairytale after all, she should have a beautiful wedding dress. That's all I hoped for. Or course, I was hoping for too much.

She looks severe and old, and Jen is a youthful looking person usually. Did they not notice that she looks like Dark Swan? Tightly pulled back hair, covered up, red lips. Why would they style her like how she was in her days of being possessed by darkness? 

And this was Jen's idea I guess. Why do they give her so much leeway with her wardrobe? I didn't think she had enough clout to control what her character wears. And if this is her idea, I don't understand why she has such poor taste in wedding gowns. I think Jen is great, but she should have no influence with Emma's wardrobe. Her influence has done Emma a disservice. 

[Camera One]

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“She either dies, or she doesn’t die, or something else happens,” EP Adam Horowitz says coyly.

Oh, for pity's sakes.

On 4/21/2017 at 0:18 PM, Rumsy4 said:

The Black Fairy attempting to recruit Zelena is the exact same thing as Split Queen attempting to recruit Zelena. They’re even recycling plots from the same season.

I just watched the sneak peek and it's even more repetitive than I imagined.  

Why am I not surprised to hear The Black Fairy start with "I heard you were wicked..."  these lines write themselves.  And typical... dropping by out of the blue, basically does nothing (oooh, she held Baby Robin... and let Zelena take him back... shivers going down my spine now), and then we build an entire episode around how the character of the week (in this case Zelena) completely flies off the handle and does something which ultimately plays right into The Black Fairy's hands.  And since The Villain only targets one character at a time, everyone else can do something pointless and completely forget that they might all die asap.  

[scenicbyway]

42 minutes ago, janett snakehole said:

I barely care about anything on this show anymore, but I did have hopes that they would make a dress that would be pretty and flatter Jen. This is Emma's fairytale after all, she should have a beautiful wedding dress. That's all I hoped for. Or course, I was hoping for too much.

She looks severe and old, and Jen is a youthful looking person usually. Did they not notice that she looks like Dark Swan? Tightly pulled back hair, covered up, red lips. Why would they style her like how she was in her days of being possessed by darkness? 

And this was Jen's idea I guess. Why do they give her so much leeway with her wardrobe? I didn't think she had enough clout to control what her character wears. And if this is her idea, I don't understand why she has such poor taste in wedding gowns. I think Jen is great, but she should have no influence with Emma's wardrobe. Her influence has done Emma a disservice. 

I guess, what's the point of having beautiful princess hair if you're going to pull it back into a severe bun?  I've wondered if perhaps Jenn thinks she looks younger with her hair pulled back?  Maybe why Emma's been in so many ponytails this season?  Maybe she thinks it tightens her skin? (Which is silly, she has no wrinkles)

The red lip just washes her out even more and the yellowy color of the dress isn't great with her skin tone.  

I'm not surprised she chose Princess Grace's dress (and it's no inspiration, it's basically a complete copy). Because she went to Monaco a few years ago to promote the show and she likes Hollywood icons.  I tend to think Emma's choice would've been something a little bohemian and perhaps not white at all.

[scarynikki12]

Didn't Emma wear a flowing white dress at one point during the Camelot flashbacks?  That look suits the character way more.  If they had to go with the Grace Kelly dress, then they should have paired it with Emma's season 1 curls.  I'm not a fan of the dress at all but I find the headpiece+slicked back hair+red lip to be worse.  It makes Emma look significantly older than her 30 years.  If Morrison had as much input in this as she's claiming then I think she failed.  That look suited Grace Kelly but it doesn't suit Emma.  It just looks bad all the way around. 

[Camera One]

As someone else above said, it reminded me of Dark Swan.  And that's not really a reminder I want to have at a wedding.

[Rumsy4]

For once, I completely disagree with JMo's choice. As someone else on tumblr pointed out, there is no similarity between Grace Kelly's life and Emma's, except in being a princess. Grace Kelly (and Kate) became one after marriage, while Emma's technically always been one. Besides, how does JMo think a close-neck and severe hairdo convey that Emma is "walls down"? I think she just liked the dress. Unfortunately, it adds to the "generic" style of the wedding. 

If Eduardo had put some effort into tailoring the dress suit Emma, and not just ripped off the original, it might have worked. I guess he drained all his inspiration making three new outfits for Regina per episode this season.

Edited April 23, 2017 by Rumsy4

[ParadoxLost]

You just know that Henry randomly deciding to bring the Once Upon a Time book to the Wedding does not bode well.

[Camera One]

Six tips for attending the Emma/Killian wedding and reception.

1. Avoid the first row beside the aisle to the altar.  That's first line of fire from evil villain making grand entrance.

2. Don't drink the punch.  You guessed it... sleeping curse.

3. Find the emergency exits when you first arrive.  The Final Battle may pre-empt the First Dance.

4. Those little boxes at each table aren't gifts.  They're Pandora Boxes for capturing the evil fairy if she shows.

5. Keep the menu.  They were printed on Squid Ink since you never know if The Dark One will be attending tonight.

6. When they say the apple dessert is to die for, they aren't kidding.

Edited April 23, 2017 by Camera One

[KingOfHearts]

34 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

You just know that Henry randomly deciding to bring the Once Upon a Time book to the Wedding does not bode well.

Emma: "For my vow, I'll be reading passages from Henry's book."

[ParadoxLost]

I wonder if Blue Fairy's absence from the wedding will cause anyone to inquire about her welfare.

At some point she is going to be resurrected and if its after the wedding she should be annoyed that her absence was never noted.

[Katherine]

I've tried to look for the positives in Emma's dress, but I can't find any. I'm really disappointed. I don't like how buttoned up/covered up it is, I don't like the headdress, I don't like the hair and makeup, and I really, really don't like that it doesn't suit Emma in any way. I'm not sure what they were thinking with this one. At the very least, she should have got to keep her flowy princess hair!

I remember there being some criticism of Emma's first date outfit as well, and Jen had similar input into that. I didn't mind the dress but I would agree that it didn't particularly suit Emma. I get that Jen sometimes uses these types of opportunities to showcase a different side of Emma, but I just can't see Emma choosing these types of dresses. I felt like the ball gown she wore in the season 3 finale was a better fit for her. It managed to be fancy and over the top but still Emma-ish. Funny, since Rumple was the one who selected it.

After an extremely disappointing season, I guess it's only fitting to disappoint fans who have been waiting for this wedding for years. I know this is just a dress and maybe the wedding could still end up being great, but to me it feels like they've 100% lost touch with their characters and the story they set out to tell.

Is there any chance at all that the musical episode will be good enough to make up for these strange wedding choices? Like maybe Emma and Hook will get an awesome duet? Nevermind. I have a feeling I'm going to cringe my way through the whole episode.

[Rumsy4]

17 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

I wonder if Blue Fairy's absence from the wedding will cause anyone to inquire about her welfare.

At some point she is going to be resurrected and if its after the wedding she should be annoyed that her absence was never noted.

Oh my god! Villain Origin Story for Blue, just in time for the reboot.

[KingOfHearts]

9 minutes ago, Rumsy4 said:

Oh my god! Villain Origin Story for Blue, just in time for the reboot.

Which would make sense, considering Maleficent was a fairy whose entire evil motivation was because she wasn't invited to a royal event.

Edited April 23, 2017 by KingOfHearts

[SiobhanJW]

1 hour ago, ParadoxLost said:

I wonder if Blue Fairy's absence from the wedding will cause anyone to inquire about her welfare.

At some point she is going to be resurrected and if its after the wedding she should be annoyed that her absence was never noted.

I think Keegan posted a photo of Jennifer in the wedding dress reading the paper, so I assumed she was there filming that day. 

[sharky]

I actually love the dress -- classic modern princess and I think it looked great in the BTS photos posted so hoping the negativity from the EW photo will change once we see it in motion. But yeah, that headpiece is a bit much. I hope maybe it's just the wedding and she lets her hair down for the reception or something. 

[RedKeep]

12 hours ago, RadioGirl27 said:

I still don't like it, it's ugly and old-fashioned, and the headpiece is hideous. And I don't understand the Grace Kelly inspiration for someone like Emma. It makes no sense.

Same. And this is one example that makes me think actors being giving a lot of room to influence decisions made bts isn't always the smartest move. That instagram post only serves to underline the point that this is a Jennifer Morrison choice more than an Emma choice - even if she herself thinks of it as something that also works for the character.

[sharky]

I actually think the Grace Kelly comparison works for Emma. She's always worn this red leather jacket and has been the girl who grew up alone. Now, she's finally let her walls down, let someone in. She's marrying someone she loves, which is something I don't think she ever expected she would have for herself. And part of that is embracing who she is. She's not a lost girl anymore. She's not a loner who has to wear her armor all the time. She IS a princess, but she's a modern-day princess who didn't grow up in the Enchanted Forest like her parents. So her dress reflects that. It's not some crazy Camelot thing. It's not full of fluff and feathers like Snow White's dress. It's classic and elegant and not over the top, which I think is a good balance between Emma's modern savior self and her princess self.

There were alot of ways they could've taken this that wouldn't have worked. She's not wearing some blinged out white version of an Evil Queen dress because that's not Emma. She's not wearing a huge fluffy Cinderella dress because that's not Emma. And she's not wearing some slinky modern dress because, frankly, this isn't that kind of wedding. It's a modern fairy tale royal wedding and she's a modern princess who is wearing the dress of a modern princess.

[PixiePaws1]

Interesting fact...

One of the very last  (2nd last i think) movies Grace Kelly made was 'The Swan' she played a character whose royal family had been usurped by Napoleon.

[Rumsy4]

26 minutes ago, sharky said:

It's a modern fairy tale royal wedding and she's a modern princess who is wearing the dress of a modern princess.

But the dress didn't have to be a copy (and not a very good copy, I may add). There's nothing that says "Emma" in that dress. It works as a nod to Grace Kelly and the modern day princess thing, but since when has Emma actually been a princess? Snow's a school teacher in Storybrooke and David is Sheriff. If anything, Regina is still the "Queen", considering she is unelected Mayor of the town. It's not like everyone's going to go back to the EF either. A sleek modern number with satin or lace would've fit Emma's style better. Give her a tiara as a nod to the princess thing. Viola.

[Kktjones]

I'm interested to see if tonight's episode gives us any insights into the look and theme of the wedding. Like maybe Emma & Hook just decide they really don't care, as long as they're getting married, and let Snow take over the planning. That's really the only way I can get behind some of the choices. I mean PEACH as the accent color? Mis-matched flowers and astroturf? Why not red & black? Or a nautical theme? Or why didn't they get married on the beach or the docks or on a moored JR? Where are their friends (Ashley, Smee, Ariel, Elsa, Liam, Nemo, etc.)? My only hope is that they just gave over the details to Snow, but that the ceremony/vows themselves will be very personal and meaningful to them. 

And I know they are hyping the wedding, but I think it will be a pretty minor piece of the musical episode. The episode shot over 8 days, but they filmed the wedding stuff in one day. We know that the Black Fairy casts her curse before the episode is over and we have to squeeze in at least 6 songs before the wedding, so I'm expecting one scene for the ceremony and maybe a few minutes of reception before all hell breaks loose.

[Curio]

22 minutes ago, Kktjones said:

We know that the Black Fairy casts her curse before the episode is over and we have to squeeze in at least 6 songs before the wedding, so I'm expecting one scene for the ceremony and maybe a few minutes of reception before all hell breaks loose.

 

 

I doubt we even make it to a reception. They'll probably have just enough time to spit out some vows and then the Black Fairy will interrupt.

Also, if they know the Black Fairy is still lurking around Storybrooke, why the hell have a wedding in the open on top of a building? Did they bother putting protection spells around the building? Why not use this opportunity to realm-hop to another world to try and throw off the Black Fairy?

[Serena]

2 hours ago, RedKeep said:

Same. And this is one example that makes me think actors being giving a lot of room to influence decisions made bts isn't always the smartest move. That instagram post only serves to underline the point that this is a Jennifer Morrison choice more than an Emma choice - even if she herself thinks of it as something that also works for the character.

I thought Jen got it wrong with her choices on Dark Swan's outfits too. I know she did research and there is symbolism and everything - but she doesn't have the best fashion sense. I'm fine with her having input in Emma's backstory, feelings, motivations, etc - I find she usually knocks that out of the park. Clothes just aren't her strong suit IMO. But then, that's subjective after all.

[Curio]

Jennifer also credited Eddy, Adam, and Eduardo in the dress brainstorm session. If A&E didn't want Emma to wear Grace Kelly's dress, they're the creators and can put their foot down. Jennifer has always been so eloquent and thoughtful about Emma's character and knows her better than anyone else, so I'm going to default to her opinion on this. Who knows, maybe young Emma looked at Grace Kelly's story growing up and wished she could become a real princess too. 

[KingOfHearts]

4 minutes ago, Curio said:

Jennifer also credited Eddy, Adam, and Eduardo in the dress brainstorm session. If A&E didn't want Emma to wear Grace Kelly's dress, they're the creators and can put their foot down. Jennifer has always been so eloquent and thoughtful about Emma's character and knows her better than anyone else, so I'm going to default to her opinion on this. Who knows, maybe young Emma looked at Grace Kelly's story growing up and wished she could become a real princess too. 

A&E wouldn't care about something as important as Emma's wedding dress. They probably told Jen to do whatever she wanted so they could get brownie points to get her to renew her contract.

[Curio]

Just now, KingOfHearts said:

A&E wouldn't care about something as important as Emma's wedding dress. 

 

I guess that's kind of true, sadly. Emma's wedding episode isn't even written by them. And the two proposals weren't written by A&E, either. Neither was the episode Emma asked Hook to move in...

I'm sensing a trend here.

[Kktjones]

1 minute ago, Curio said:

I'm sensing a trend here.

Yeah - they are only interested in writing the "reunion hug/kiss" scenes for Emma & Hook and nothing deeper than that. They have had them separated for almost every ep they've written in the last two seasons.

12 minutes ago, Curio said:

maybe young Emma looked at Grace Kelly's story growing up and wished she could become a real princess too. 

I think something like this would be great, but given JMo's explanation yesterday, it's clear they won't bother explaining it in show (they would never take time for something like that anyways).

[daxx]

1 minute ago, Kktjones said:

I think something like this would be great, but given JMo's explanation yesterday, it's clear they won't bother explaining it in show (they would never take time for something like that anyways).

This is sad considering this is the entire advantage TV has over movies, that you have time for the character beats. They repeatedly squander this time and use it for ridiculous retcons and flashbacks that add nothing besides another evil queen costume.

[oliverwendell]

Is the wedding at Regina's house? It kind of looks like it, with that black and white floor tile.

[Tiger]

10 hours ago, SiobhanJW said:

I think Keegan posted a photo of Jennifer in the wedding dress reading the paper, so I assumed she was there filming that day. 

For the sake of argument, let's say Black's real name does turn out to be Mary Poppins.  That means every fairy but Blue would then have a color designation and a real name.  I wonder if we will ever learn hers, and what it will be.  

If they hadnt already done and royally fucked up Camelot, it'd be interesting if she was Morgan Le Fey.   Mayhe she could br Desdemona from Macbeth? 

Or since Tiger Lily being a fairy was random as fuck, perhaps the female character from Disney's Rescue Rangers?

3 hours ago, sharky said:

I actually think the Grace Kelly comparison works for Emma. She's always worn this red leather jacket and has been the girl who grew up alone. Now, she's finally let her walls down, let someone in. She's marrying someone she loves, which is something I don't think she ever expected she would have for herself. And part of that is embracing who she is. She's not a lost girl anymore. She's not a loner who has to wear her armor all the time. She IS a princess, but she's a modern-day princess who didn't grow up in the Enchanted Forest like her parents. So her dress reflects that. It's not some crazy Camelot thing. It's not full of fluff and feathers like Snow White's dress. It's classic and elegant and not over the top, which I think is a good balance between Emma's modern savior self and her princess self.

There were alot of ways they could've taken this that wouldn't have worked. She's not wearing some blinged out white version of an Evil Queen dress because that's not Emma. She's not wearing a huge fluffy Cinderella dress because that's not Emma. And she's not wearing some slinky modern dress because, frankly, this isn't that kind of wedding. It's a modern fairy tale royal wedding and she's a modern princess who is wearing the dress of a modern princess.

I usually dont give two shits about wardrobe, except to criticize the show for dressing Ginny in curtains, but I thought everyone, especially Emma, looked fantastic in their Camelot clothes.  I wouldnt want an exact copy of that, buy something in that vein would have been perfect.

Edited April 23, 2017 by Tiger

[sharky]

1 hour ago, Kktjones said:

I think something like this would be great, but given JMo's explanation yesterday, it's clear they won't bother explaining it in show (they would never take time for something like that anyways).

I think the princess part of this is going to get played up in the episodes leading up to the wedding, which would play into JMo's Grace Kelly explanation. We usually don't get much mention of Emma being a princess so the fact that David is making this a sticking point for the wedding planning makes me think they're making a big deal about this being a royal wedding.

[Camera One]

Let's make a prediction.  How much character assassination will The Tin Man possibly take tonight?  (assuming he's in the flashback)

A) It will be a lovingly faithful representation

B) It will be a clever reworking of The Tin Man backstory based on the original book

C) It will make scrap metal out of the character while undermining his core personality traits, in order to make some other character look good.

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Maybe this episode could have been the musical one... I can totally imagine this showstopping number sung... hopefully it gives you hope.

Somewhere, over the rainbow, way up high
There's a land that's so depressing you will want to die

Somewhere, over the rainbow, smoke is green
And the dreams that you dare to dream, they're as rare as beans

Someday I'll wish upon a star
And wake up with an abrasive Dor-o-thy
Where Glinda is some lame old prop
She might as well be a chimney top
That's where you'll find me

Somewhere over the rainbow, Blue is in a coma
But no one really cares so
Why then, oh why would I?

If filler episodes will fly
With three episodes left
Why, oh why, can't everyone on this show dieeeeeeeeeee?

Edited April 23, 2017 by Camera One

[Souris]

3 hours ago, KingOfHearts said:

A&E wouldn't care about something as important as Emma's wedding dress. They probably told Jen to do whatever she wanted so they could get brownie points to get her to renew her contract.

Exactly. A&E wouldn't give a flying fig about Emma's wedding dress. (Regina's? Absolutely! But not Emma's.) And even if they did, I doubt they'd have any skill at designing it or giving input on it. And Eduardo has said before that he hates wedding dresses, so doing a copy of Grace Kelly's was probably just fine with him.

I don't mind them using Grace Kelly's for inspiration at all. I can see where Jen was coming from there. I just wish it wasn't such an exact copy. And I wish her hair had been down without the harsh headdress.

I loved Snow's wedding dress. I would have preferred something akin to that.

[PixiePaws1]

5 hours ago, Curio said:

 Who knows, maybe young Emma looked at Grace Kelly's story growing up and wished she could become a real princess too. 

Right now I wish this completely  (to me) non Emma-and-Killian-looking wedding comes about because Snow goes trespassing and snooping into Emma's cardboard box of memories and finds a clipping about Grace Kelly's wedding and assumes this is Emma's dream wedding. 

Because this is Emma, the real reason it is there is in a similar vein to the swan necklace; remind Emma not to hope for anything like a beautiful fancy wedding. So it is more like her anti dream wedding. While Snow's in full Momzilla mode picturing the entire wedding as a 40s/50s musical, probay courtesy of the BF who wants to interfere for some reason like distract Emma with family friction ...Emma and Killian are having a quiet elopement on the JR.

[maryle]

Ok, I love Bex and Zelena but the Zelena song(in the musical) is really going to be more than 3mins!  It just seems very long for a 42 mins show.

[oncebluethrone]

1 hour ago, maryle said:

Ok, I love Bex and Zelena but the Zelena song(in the musical) is really going to be more than 3mins!  It just seems very long for a 42 mins show.

If all the songs are 3.5 minutes long, then that leaves 17.5 minutes for dialogue and silent action. I have no idea if this is the average length of the songs, but if so, then 24.5 minutes of singing sounds like a good amount for a musical episode, which, in my opinion, should be mostly singing, but not at an extreme ratio. This ratio is about 60/40, which seems like a good balance.

[tri4335]

4 hours ago, PixiePaws1 said:

Right now I wish this completely  (to me) non Emma-and-Killian-looking wedding comes about because Snow goes trespassing and snooping into Emma's cardboard box of memories and finds a clipping about Grace Kelly's wedding and assumes this is Emma's dream wedding. 

Because this is Emma, the real reason it is there is in a similar vein to the swan necklace; remind Emma not to hope for anything like a beautiful fancy wedding. So it is more like her anti dream wedding. While Snow's in full Momzilla mode picturing the entire wedding as a 40s/50s musical, probay courtesy of the BF who wants to interfere for some reason like distract Emma with family friction ...Emma and Killian are having a quiet elopement on the JR.

Exactly!  Or they could have Hook say something like all the Netflix nights involve watching Grace Kelly movies and then Belle can look it up on the internet and bang we have the GK dress!  But really it is JMO who wants the dress and not Emma unless you can tie it back to something, which I could buy that some foster mom or even the librarian where Emma would hang out to be off the streets was a big fan and passed that on to Emma.   I mean they should've had baby Emma watching a Grace Kelly movie when Snowing was watching her and it could be a small hint of what was to come.  But A & E don't care about Emma's story, feelings motives so we have some random through back to Princess Grace, who really should be outside of Emma's pop reference.  

Edited April 24, 2017 by tri4335

[PixiePaws1]

Omg ...Hook's wedding tux is VELVET!!!

This can NOT be real....so..so..just... NO..

[mjgchick]

Better than leather. 

 

This whole weddings a mess.

[legaleagle53]

7 hours ago, Camera One said:

Maybe this episode could have been the musical one... I can totally imagine this showstopping number sung... hopefully it gives you hope.

Somewhere, over the rainbow, way up high
There's a land that's so depressing you will want to die

Somewhere, over the rainbow, smoke is green
And the dreams that you dare to dream, they're as rare as beans

Someday I'll wish upon a star
And wake up with an abrasive Dor-o-thy
Where Glinda is some lame old prop
She might as well be a chimney top
That's where you'll find me

Somewhere over the rainbow, Blue is in a coma
But no one really cares so
Why then, oh why would I?

If filler episodes will fly
With three episodes left
Why, oh why, can't everyone on this show dieeeeeeeeeee?

And Judy Garland just started spinning in her grave.

[oncebluethrone]

I for one love the velvet jacket. I honestly don't think a leather tux would have been a good idea since Killian wears leather all the time and a regular tux wouldn't have felt right to me. Archie's officiating which isn't a surprise.

[Rumsy4]

1 hour ago, oncebluethrone said:

Archie's officiating which isn't a surprise.

I just so glad it's not Regina. I was afraid of that. That may still happen if they elope.

[Serena]

Killian's outfit isn't bad. I mean, he's not exactly a conventional dresser.

[PixiePaws1]

I am probably going to make a hash of trying to explain this but here goes.

Now that we've got a few seconds.of footage from the musical i am more confused than ever.

Why is Granny calmly  knitting while Regina in full EQ mode is twirling in front of her???

Looks like Snowing in same EF tavern as Hook (Looking rather fierce) is singing and dancing with his pirate mates.... but that could just be the editing.

[RadioGirl27]

13 hours ago, PixiePaws1 said:

Omg ...Hook's wedding tux is VELVET!!!

This can NOT be real....so..so..just... NO..

At least he is not wearing any monstrosity in his head. He looks handsome, I don't care about the velvet.

1 hour ago, PixiePaws1 said:

Now that we've got a few seconds.of footage from the musical i am more confused than ever.

Why is Granny calmly  knitting while Regina in full EQ mode is twirling in front of her???

Looks like Snowing in same EF tavern as Hook (Looking rather fierce) is singing and dancing with his pirate mates.... but that could just be the editing.

Yeah, me too. The singing and dancing in the EF confuses me, because after reading this answer from the Adam in the EW article,

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ADAM HOROWITZ: What we can say is that we want to keep the machinations a little bit of a surprise, but that it’s key to Emma’s journey — the journey that began in the pilot and that we’ve seen throughout the whole series. The singing and the musical is tied directly to Emma.

I thought that maybe Emma inadvertently made a wish when she was a child for a musical wedding that now that she is going to mary comes true, and that is why they are all singing. But the singing in the EF makes no sense with my theory. So I don't know, and I don't care. It's going to be a total mess.

[tennisgurl]

I dig the velvet. He has a quirky sense of fashion, it works for him. This is the guy who kept dressing like a old timeie pirate for like three seasons after entering the modern day.

I cracked up over the awkward transition the Dramatic Voice Over Guy made between talking about next weeks Big Dramatic Backstory Episode, and next weeks Super Wacky Musical Episode. It was in the same breath! Go from parental abandonment to the EQ twirling around singing and some kind of bawdy tavern song. Talk about mood whiplash.

[KateJones]

No one is going to comment on the return of the Red Vest of Sex in the promo for the musical? 

[Curio]

I have a feeling the only reason Eddy wanted Hook to wear black velvet is because of the 1980s song "Black Velvet." It doesn't have much to do with Hook's character since black velvet doesn't even show up on camera well, so I doubt the audience will even know he's wearing black velvet. If they actually wanted a character-driven wedding outfit, they probably should have gone with a Royal Navy uniform—it would have been a shoutout to Liam 1.0 and Hook's character coming full-circle back to the side of good officially.

Edited April 24, 2017 by Curio

[RadioGirl27]

Is Emma in jail in this pic from the finale? She looks like Sarah Connor.

From that article

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“The two hours are devoted to everything we’ve set up for six years, and the final scene will let you know what we’re going to do” in the event of a Season 7.

Edited April 24, 2017 by RadioGirl27

[tri4335]

2 minutes ago, RadioGirl27 said:

Is Emma in jail in this pic from the finale?

From the article

That pic seems like a total rip off of Sarah Connor in T2 Judgement Day - the bed flipped up to do pull ups and a tank top to show off killer arms. There is too much stuff in the room to be a jail but she still seems locked down in some manner so I'm going with mental institution. Perhaps like Sarah Conner she has some insights into the future and has been training for the final battle but everyone just thinks she is crazy.

[Shanna Marie]

5 minutes ago, tri4335 said:

That pic seems like a total rip off of Sarah Connor in T2 Judgement Day - the bed flipped up to do pull ups and a tank top to show off killer arms. There is too much stuff in the room to be a jail but she still seems locked down in some manner so I'm going with mental institution. Perhaps like Sarah Conner she has some insights into the future and has been training for the final battle but everyone just thinks she is crazy.

Well, they haven't yet ripped off the Buffy episode in which she was in the institution and was being made to think that all the Slayer stuff was a delusions, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do a thing where Emma's locked up and it looks like this was all a delusion.