Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[Apprentice79]

He would  have been held captive, yup, you guessed it by Stefano Dimera...lol...

[Peanut6711]

He would  have been held captive, yup, you guessed it by Stefano Dimera...lol...

You got it! He'll sprout back up from the swamps with the help of some hillbilly not related to Clyde upon Stef's big passing when EJ returns to take over the empire and rule with Sami as his queen who will get a telepathic image that her son is still alive. And if I ever get my wish, he'll bring the long-dead-but-never-revived Orpheus back with him for a phenomenal plot! 

Edited October 9, 2015 by Peanut6711

[TeeVee329]

Didn't they find John once in some hilarious brainwashing machine with, like, strobe lights?  That'd be fun for Will lol.

[Rick Kitchen]

Wait, so this was it? This is how Will dies? It seemed like nothing, a waste, something so small. Is he in a coma or actually dead??

 

Well, speaking of gay couples and unhappy endings. I will forever be bitter about Luke and Reid :(

 

Ugh, Luke and Reid, I'm still unhappy about Luke and Noah ending.  I never did like Reid.

[Apprentice79]

Yup, you got it...I still am pissed that the show did not make Rex and Cassie, Orpheus children..Rex was such a hottie...They could have brought new blood on the show that had alot of history with so many characters on the show..I am sick to death of Stefano and the Dimeras..They are played out...It is inconceivable to me that the Bradys tolerate their presence in town....A few weeks ago, I was aghast that kayla was treating Stefano...

Didn't they find John once in some hilarious brainwashing machine with, like, strobe lights?  That'd be fun for Will lol.

That was roboJohn that had sex with Hope in a submarine...lol He also dallied with Ava..Hope also had sex with Stefano..She also had mime sex with Bo to make Zach.. That was a retcon because Zack was either for John or Stefano...

Edited October 10, 2015 by Apprentice79

[TeeVee329]

Oh, but Rex was the one who was with Mimi, right, when she had the back alley abortion or whatever?  No...say no to anything that would bring about the return of Farah Fath.

[Apprentice79]

Yes, I hated  that storyline,,She became infertile after having an abortion..I hate that TV trope...She and Philip have a son named Tyler somewhere out there..

Edited October 9, 2015 by Apprentice79

[Peanut6711]

I absolutely agree no Mimi! I loathe her.  But Rex was good looking. 

Yup, you got it...I still am pissed that the show did not make Rex and Cassie, Orpheus children..

 

Definitely potential there. Cassie could have felt this strange bond towards Marlena as a vague memory of Marlena's time on the island playing mom. And she could have been a love interest for Eric which would have enraged Orpheus who wouldn't have wanted his daughter with one of Roman's sons. 

[Apprentice79]

I absolutely agree no Mimi! I loathe her.  But Rex was good looking. 

Definitely potential there. Cassie could have felt this strange bond towards Marlena as a vague memory of Marlena's time on the island playing mom. And she could have been a love interest for Eric which would have enraged Orpheus who wouldn't have wanted his daughter with one of Roman's sons. 

Rex could have been with either Stefanie or Theresa...Cassie and Lucas had a nice chemistry....

[holo37]

Because I have been away so long actually am more worried about how Will's death will affect Lucas. I really hope he dosen't start drinking and spiral out of control. I also wonder if they will have Sonny fight for rights to Adrianna Grace. That would involve quite a few cast members. Gabi/Rafe/Eddie, Justin and Adrianne and probably Victor and Maggie, Lucas and Sami and all their extended Brady family PLUS KATE!  Justin and Adrianne's break-up was realistic and thankfully low-key. She scared and he's unsure about recommitting. It's been kind of telling that she told Lucas about her medical testing but not Justin, and he's hasnt really noticed anything wrong. I quite enjoyed their scenes.

Edited October 9, 2015 by holo37

[oceanblue]

We know Ben was in Florida thanks to Eve and Paige.  We now know that Clyde was in Florida.  But we'd been told that Clyde hadn't seen Ben since he was very young.  Coincidence or have they done the father and son killing team before and they've been faking every part of their reconnecting?  I believe it was Clyde who tried to kill Marlena.

[Peanut6711]

 I also wonder if they will have Sonny fight for rights to Adrianna Grace.

With Gabby back in town and the actress on a new contract I'm not expecting that. They'll probably just mention Sonny visiting Ari and vice versa from time to time. Then when they hook Gabby up w/JJ or whoever she gets as a love interest they can say that Ari is visiting Sonny if they don't want to show her for a while. 

[LeftPhalange]

If they insisted on killing off Will (or any other core characters) I don't think now was the time to do it. The show isn't in great shape, creatively or ratings wise and I'm sure there are plenty of people who were only sticking around to see one or two characters. It'll be interesting to see what the ratings look like once the killings are over.

[ByaNose]

Nothing like a string of grizzly murders leading into the Thanksgiving & Christmas holidays. Of course, it's going to end before the 50th Anniversary but you get my point. At least, they did mix it up a bit and have a guy muredered but I don't think they should have killed Will. He's a legacy character. I would defiantly have replaced Guy Wilson. I thought he was a horrible replacement.

[rustyspigot]

At least scratch his face or thumb gouge his eyes, Will. I guess Ben had his emergency body bag in the apartment just in case. And the good citizens of Salem won't notice someone carrying a dead body sized bag around town. Just as long as you have the hoodie of invisibility.

[jlrd2000]

We know Ben was in Florida thanks to Eve and Paige.  We now know that Clyde was in Florida.  But we'd been told that Clyde hadn't seen Ben since he was very young.  Coincidence or have they done the father and son killing team before and they've been faking every part of their reconnecting?  I believe it was Clyde who tried to kill Marlena.

I also believe it was Clyde who attacked Marlena. Clyde was out of breath after Marlena's attack but Ben wasnt. Ben was out of breath after Will's murder today only after carrying his body over to Will's apartment and staging the scene. 

[Kitty Redstone]

Well that was brutal, though thankfully it didn't last as long as it reportedly takes to strangle someone to death.  I'm not surprised Will didn't fight back - Ben throw him head-first into the refrigerator so he was only semi-conscious.  And for Ben to package him up in that extra-large black bag (wtf?), haul him back to his home, and leave him like that?  And then to go have sex with Abigail?  Made the whole thing even more awful.

 

I don't understand why this character was killed off and hope it wasn't because the showrunners wanted all the gay characters off the canvas.  (I've actually wondered if it was Ken Corday's decision to murder Will as a passive-aggressive way to get back at AS for leaving the show.)  If they wanted to rest the Will character there are just so many other way they could have done it.  He could have went away with Sonny to work of their marriage, or to LA to be with Sami, or off on a work assignment in New York.  And if they wanted the shock of Will being attacked, he could have been put in a coma for a few months and then recast.  The whole thing is so short-sighted.

 

Anyway, I still need to watch yesterday's show and guess the evidence Will found was the red tie?

[boes]

Well that was brutal.  And unnecessary.  And stupid.  It overshadowed everything else, even the good stuff like Aiden telling Hope the truth with no apparent hidden motive.  Gabi and JJ, I guess we'll see.  

 

I say something else but I don't feel like snarking after watching that.  GAWD  this is gonna be awful when everyone finds out.  And another funeral, this one will make Paige's seem like a picnic.

[ByaNose]

So, Clyde stabbed Sonny & Ben strangled Will. Aren't they a fun bunch?! LOL!!!

[ShadowSixx]

You know for a legacy character, they could have written Will's death way better than what they did. Also be killed by a better character than some mannequin. I thought Ken Dolls didn't morph into Chucky dolls. What is wrong with these toy companies?? I didn't like Will, I just flat out loathed him but they could have just written him off instead of killing him. 

 

Will come on now, the tie was in the trash, you give it back to Ben, who tightens it around his hands and slings it across his shoulder, he doesn't put it back in the trash can. I would have high tailed it right out of there or thrown myself out of a window. Forget all that nice talk about being friends and being best man. Goodbye.

 

Now since I'm just tuning back in, what's going on with Aiden? I knew writers were going to ruin him the minute Bo was announced as coming back. What exactly is he planning because I know I'm missed a huge chunk on why Aiden turned so fast.

 

I do like how friendly the Twit and JJ are to the woman that killed their cousin. Isn't that sweet, even though Nick was a pig but come on now.

Edited October 10, 2015 by ShadowSixx

[ShadowSixx]

Another thing proving Ben is just an idiot. Why go out of his way to frame Chad? Why not just kill Chad? Chad is dead, and doesn't have to worry about him going after the Twit. Why kill innocent people? Also his framing isn't going to work because forensic science is well too advanced to get away with things unless Ben was on that show How to Get Away with Murder. Ben might wanna call Viola Davis and ask her to be his lawyer.

 

Plus Ben is dragging a body from his apartment all the way back to Will's place. Nobody sees a man all in black carrying a body sized bag? Dry cleaning should never look that heavy. Did Ben go through crime park, you know the shortcut to everywhere in Salem?

[TeeVee329]

I don't understand why this character was killed off and hope it wasn't because the showrunners wanted all the gay characters off the canvas.

 

I dunno.  I can definitely see why people would think that.  I wonder if things would have been different if Freddie Smith had stayed (he had already said he was leaving when the new writers came on board, yes?).

 

But part of me thinks they really are just making the same mistake many soaps have made with many a character.  This whole things keeps reminding of GH's huge mistake in killing off Georgie Jones (who, oddly enough, was also strangled).  She too was a legacy character born on the show and could have been its future one day.

 

ETA...speaking of strangled, Higley's the one who wrote closeted Daniel Coulson strangling Jenn Rappaport to death on OLTL, yes?  If so...what a weird parallel.

Edited October 10, 2015 by TeeVee329

[Apprentice79]

Georgie?....I remember her and she was such a unique character...She was killed senselessly and the show was never the same...It was when the Corinthos family took over...I think daytime wants to mimic primetime shows and that has hurt the genre and that is why there are only 4 left..i remember in the 80's, there was a plethora of soaps..The edge of night was a dark soap opera, but it always had a daytime feel to it...These producers have a contempt for their audience...

 

It was horrible watching Will plead for his life, it felt like I was watching an episode of criminal minds...I saw Will born and I saw his crazy childhood with his crazy parents...I wanted him to get the happy family that he always dreamt of having..There was a viciousness to his death..When Hope died, she got to tell Bo how he and Shawn-Douglas were the joys of her life...Will was treated like garbage by Ben, he dumped him in his living room where his young daughter could have seen him...It was just too much...I am not saying that Will is a sacred cow and should not die, but that was not the way...

[DanaMB]

I absolutely hate that they killed off Will. If I hadn't been unwillingly spoiled, I think I would be sitting here thinking Will wasn't really dead and there was going to be a twist. I know there could be in the future, but right now there's no getting around he's dead.  Hate.

[boes]

Plus Ben is dragging a body from his apartment all the way back to Will's place. Nobody sees a man all in black carrying a body sized bag? Dry cleaning should never look that heavy. Did Ben go through crime park, you know the shortcut to everywhere in Salem?

 

It's not that Salem hasn't seen this before.  After all, that's how Julie used to get her dates.

 

Also, they probably would just think that Ben is delivering Amway products.

[Happytobehere]

I think to keep the integrity of the couple and their fanbase, sometimes you have to do that...Write both out...Kayla had no story for years after Steve "died" and they tried to push her and Shane as the next couple to the ire of both the Steve/Kayla and Kim/Shane fanbases..Plus, I thought it was a big F you to Patsy Pease who had problems with the producers at the time..They always seemed to respect Charles more than Patsy...When they were both beloved as Kim and Shane...If the show did not have any plans for Kayla, then they should have written out Steve and Kayla with Stefanie. They did it with Justin and Adrienne with their 4 sons..

I agree. I always thought Steve, Kayla and Stephanie should have been allowed to leave as planned. Steve's death even with the dramatic iron of the viewers knowing he wasn't really dead was a major part of the problem with Kayla remaining. The audience was awaiting his return, the writers who were in charge at the time left her character in limbo, and then sort of used Kayla in a way that was as you pointed out , a slap in the face to PP. it served no purpose and alienated everyone, especially because it made no sense for Kayla. Shane had a history of being drawn to damaged women, Eve, Gabrielle, Kimberly, so the emotionally devasted Kayla made a twisted sense for Shane, but not so much when you know not just his relationship with Kim, but his relationship with Kayla.

If you want to look at it this way, Will/Sonny just went down like most of the Supercouples have. Steve/Kayla, Bo/Hope, Ej/Sami...they've all had one of the pair dead at one time or another and...

none of them have stayed dead thankfully.

 All I hope is whenever they bring Will back and I don't doubt at some point they will because no one stays dead in Salem, that it's CM that reprises the role.

As someone else noted, Steve's death doesn't really fit as a link in this chain because the audience always knew he was alive. In a way, it speaks to the impact of his death that people seemed more devastated by the fake death than the supposedly real ones. Also, buy the time Bo died and Hope died, they had been off and then back on the canvass so it had the feel of what it was, an actor leaving until they decided to return. Also, based on what we saw, if Will were revived at a later date, I for one would feel insulted. You give the guy a horrid death in a thus far underwhelming murder mystery (and with your choice of killer, the story will remain underwhelming unless a character of significance picks up where Ben leaves off up his capture) only to bring him back, that means Will could have remain back-burners until he was recast.

My question is: What was the point of reuniting Adrienne and Justin? It was clear Adrienne cared more for Lucas than Justin through their three-week split. I mean once you show her repeatedly talking to Lucas about her issues and excluding Kustin, you knew that relationship was officially dead. So we crushed Lucas over Adrienne for no reason and now his son has been murdered. Will Adrienne be their for him? Will this signal the renewal of their relationship?

I have no problem with the death of legacy characters per se, people do die, it's the fact that the writers seem to have settled for the cheap and momentary shock value over rebooting a core character who could have worked in numerous plots.

[TeeVee329]

I have no problem with the death of legacy characters per se, people do die, it's the fact that the writers seem to have settled for the cheap and momentary shock value over rebooting a core character who could have worked in numerous plots.

 

And really, they could have done pretty much the same story with Will just ending up in a coma. 

[bannana]

I was wondering a while ago about that red and green neon light outside Babby's apartment.  Now I think that it is what has pushed Ben over the edge into murderer with really ugly red ties.  Cause otherwise this doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

Abby:  Hey Will, Cable Guy hasn't shown up, but I have places to be, like hooking up and flirting with my Baby-Daddy in the Dimera Catacombs.  Can you hang out here until Cable Guy shows up?  Cause I have more important things to do.

 

Will:  No prob, Abs.  I can write and do investigative journalism right here.  Although that isn't really what will get me killed.  Just bad stupid luck playing hoops with your garbage can.  And not getting the fuck out of there when I surmised that your fiance is a serial killer. 

 

Abby:  No probs Will, sorry about the whole brutal murder thing.  I still get to have red hot monkey sex with my murdering fiance; the red/green lights flashing are our porn fantasy.

 

Okay, and apparently no one on the writing team at Days knows about forensics.  Ben had fingerprints all over that tie and Will.

 

Did anyone else notice that a photo or something slid under the couch at Babby's place?  Not sure how that matters as we all know he was there.

[annabel]

I have no love at all for Will, but today made me terribly sad, and also somewhat sick to my stomach. I will stick with the show through the celebration the characters are planning, though possibly not long after that.

[annabel]

I have no love at all for Will, but today made me terribly sad, and also somewhat sick to my stomach. I will stick with the show through the celebration the characters are planning, though possibly not long after that.

[annabel]

I have no love at all for Will, but today made me terribly sad, and also somewhat sick to my stomach. I will stick with the show through the celebration the characters are planning, though possibly not long after that.

[annabel]

Do not know how I managed to do that three times, nor do I know how to fix it. Sorry

[Paron Xanthis]

Eh, I don't know.  Will's death wasn't that gruesome.  It only lasted a few seconds.  I was expecting it to be more gruesome, if anything, just like Serena and Paige's murders were.

 

Gabi treated him like shit during the Nick debacle

Rather conveniently, you forget that he treated her like shit first during that whole thing.  She never started doing that until he threw the first punch -- actually, several of them -- before she started responding.

[buffynut]

Now since I'm just tuning back in, what's going on with Aiden? I knew writers were going to ruin him the minute Bo was announced as coming back. What exactly is he planning because I know I'm missed a huge chunk on why Aiden turned so fast.

 

This may not be everything, as they've really piled the secrets onto Aiden, but here goes:  We learn Aiden has been secretly working for Stefano and that his job was to make Hope fall in love with him.   Also seems Aiden has debts from a hidden gambling addiction.  He owes a gazillion dollars to a loan shark worse than the Dimeras, who keeps threatening him, Chase, Hope and Ciara.  The goon at one point breaks his baby finger.  Finally Aiden confesses to Hope that he owes $100,000. Hope asks if that's all and he says he can handle the rest. She writes him a cheque but when he goes to deliver, loan shark's goon tells him debt has already been paid. Of course, by the Dimeras.  Aiden goes to see Stefano, and now Andre, and it's mentioned that the $100,000 is just like a down payment on his debts, so he still owes them.  He had been Chad's lawyer, but Andre/Stefano fired him, so now he is trying to find where Chad is to get the reward money.

 

There was also a lot of stuff going on with him and Clyde.  He found out about something in Florida and dropped Clyde as a client.  At one point Clyde beat him up.

 

At this point, it appears he really loves Hope, but who knows.

 

The edge of night was a dark soap opera, but it always had a daytime feel to it...

 

Growing up, The Edge of Night was my Mom's favourite soap, so by extension, mine too.  I never really thought of it as being dark, but I guess someone was aways on trial for something.  Adam and Nicole were my first soap super couple. :)

[ByaNose]

The red & green flashing sign game me the impression that Abby & Ben live in a dumpy motel. Obviously, Abby wouldn't live in a motel or a dump for that matter. Then I thought it was a traffic light but then I realized it's going to fast between red & green. Otherwise, there would be a heck of lot of accidents at that intersection. Roman has enough problems with the Salem murders and Clyde to worry about that, too. So, what is the blinking red & green light? I can't figure it out.

[bantering]

That thing growing on the bottom of Eduardo's chin bothers me to no end.

[oceanblue]

Dear Ben:  when I strangle someone in my apartment and then move the body, I always turn the lights on when I clean up.  Because otherwise you can't see what you're cleaning.  I know that the flashing lights give you that cool film noir thing that seems to turn you on, but safety first!  Best, me.  

 

PS, you suck at staging a crime scene.  Instead of punching the accessories, move around like you are actually having a fight.  Or just leave it as is because Will doesn't fight back.  

[ByaNose]

So, Allison Sweeney will back this week, right? I thought she was coming back for the November Anniversary but she has to be back for Will's death and funeral, right?

ETA: Never mind. I just read on Fairman Soaps that she is coming back. Sorry, bout' that!

Edited October 10, 2015 by ByaNose

[tribeca]

I never trusted Ben.  He always seemed so angry.  His apartment was too clean for a college guy.   Those lights outside his window I don't remember seeing before the murders started.  Are they only in scenes with him? or are they always there?

    Will's death seemed the worse to me.  Maybe because we saw it from his point of view? Or maybe because we saw it in real time?  I don't know. 

[Apprentice79]

Eh, I don't know.  Will's death wasn't that gruesome.  It only lasted a few seconds.  I was expecting it to be more gruesome, if anything, just like Serena and Paige's murders were.

 

Rather conveniently, you forget that he treated her like shit first during that whole thing.  She never started doing that until he threw the first punch -- actually, several of them -- before she started responding.

I guess I always fanwanked that Sonny resented Gaby because she was indirectly involved with his uncle Jack's death...Has Sonny  ever had any scenes with his uncle Jack and Steve....This is what frustrates me about the show..Relatives don't acknowledge each other and they should be involved in each other's storylines...Sonny always refers to Kayla as Will's aunt, but she is his aunt too....lol  Adrienne and Kayla were very close and they would have maintained a close relationship, even after they both left Salem.  

 

I am still bummed that Steve and Adrienne have not had any scenes together....He would have confided in her about his worries about Bo and his wish to reunite with his family. Adrienne would have told him about their mother's cancer, her fears about her own mortality and her complicated relationship with Justin...

 

I hope the show brings back a teenage Allie for Lucas. I can see Allie coming back for her daddy and falling for Chase and mixing it up with Ciara, who is secretly sleeping with him..Little Allie and Little Ciara had history, they could have had a rivalry as teens. With Allie coming back, Johnny could tangle with Theo, Andre, Stefano and Chad...Sydney could stay in LA with Sami...Johnny would eventually be reveal to be lucas' son.. It would be fascinating to see Lucas try to connect with him..Will always adored his dad, it would be the reverse with Johnny. 

Edited October 10, 2015 by Apprentice79

[Artsda]

They added the seedy red flashing lights outside the window for just this story of the "red tie killer." It was never there before, it was just for added effect of the darkness.

Will died and gave up fighting pretty fast. It was almost like he grew a brain and played dead. I don't believe he won't come back one day as a new face. Especially when anyone can be injected with anything and return.

Will was just stupid, he had a billion chances to run and get the hell out of there. Instead he continued chatting with him. Still "Team Ben" Will? That should be put on Will's headstone. "Team Ben!" For a reporter he really had no sense about people.

Ben killed Will without gloves, shouldn't his DNA and prints be on the tie? He also fetched a whole mans body that entire way in a bag and nobody saw?

How is Gabby walking around with Nick's family chatting her up and nobody cares she's a murderer but so after Chad and Clyde?

Edited October 10, 2015 by Artsda

[Peanut6711]

The red & green flashing sign game me the impression that Abby & Ben live in a dumpy motel. Obviously, Abby wouldn't live in a motel or a dump for that matter. Then I thought it was a traffic light but then I realized it's going to fast between red & green. Otherwise, there would be a heck of lot of accidents at that intersection. Roman has enough problems with the Salem murders and Clyde to worry about that, too. So, what is the blinking red & green light? I can't figure it out.

They live at the Trollop Motel. There's always room for more so the "Vacancy" sign is flashing, alternating with the "Open All Night" sign. LOL That would also explain why none of their neighbors questioned the large and heavy bag of trash Ben carried out. People that frequent these places know better than to ask questions or speak with the cops. ;-)

[NumberCruncher]

Sonny always refers to Kayla as Will's aunt, but she is his aunt too....lol

Which is strange to begin with because Kayla is technically Will's great/grandaunt and Sonny's aunt. Then again, they probably don't want to highlight how the inconsistent SORAS-ing of the kids has messed up the generational relationships.

[DollEyes]

  I'm not the biggest Will fan, especially GW's version of him, but killing him off is one of the biggest mistakes this show has ever made-and given their track record, that's saying something. As if spending most of the year destroying Will's character wasn't bad enough, they added insult to injury-not to mention cold-blooded murder-by killing him. The murder itself, seeing it from Will's POV and knowing that it'll ultimately be used to prop Chabby are equally disgusting to me. They could've recast Will, sent him away or put him in a coma instead of killing him. Will's death should backfire on TPTB way sooner than later.

 

 

There is no finality to deaths on soaps.

 

  Unfortunately, Tom, Mickey's, Lexie's & Alice's deaths on this show,  Asa's death on OLTL, Stephanie & Aly's deaths on B&B & Silas', Duke's, BJ's, Georgie's, Alan's, Edward's & Lila's deaths on GH, to name a few, prove otherwise.

[Apprentice79]

Which is strange to begin with because Kayla is technically Will's great/grandaunt and Sonny's aunt. Then again, they probably don't want to highlight how the inconsistent SORAS-ing of the kids has messed up the generational relationships.

Don't forget that Sami was a teenage mother...Kayla being Will's great-aunt, while simultaneously being Sonny's aunt by marriage is not that big of a deal...The show just wanted to prop Abby, by making Kayla her sounding board..

Edited October 10, 2015 by Apprentice79

[Peanut6711]

Thinking more about Ben and Abby's apartment... does Abigail spend no time there other than for sleep and sex? How did she not notice/find Ben's extensive collection of red neck ties (for a guy who doesn't have to dress up for his job at that) before he discarded most of them or the box of body bags next to the Hefty trash bags?  My hubs can't find half of his own things in our house and we've lived in the same place for over a decade. Clearly Abby never has to go looking for Ben's keys or his belt or the extra toilet paper. The boy had an app to keep track of his own girlfriend, he can't be that clued in to his material items.

 

How is Gabby walking around with Nick's family chatting her up and nobody cares she's a murderer but so after Chad and Clyde?

Well at the time of his murder, half the town wanted him dead so I doubt there's a lot of public outrage over her early release. I think Julie is the only person who Gabby really has to be worried about should she accompany JJ to the Horton family Thanksgiving diner. 

 

  Unfortunately, Tom, Mickey's, Lexie's & Alice's deaths on this show,  

I think it's a little different if the character is played by the actor who "made" the role. Then there's less of a chance of them bringing the character back unless the actor is returning. That is certainly not the case with Will. It's also different when the real actor has passed such as the case of Tom and Alice. Logically at their ages, the characters would have to pass away at some point too. For example, I'm sure Victor's miracle cure will work on Caroline as long as the actress continues with the show. But should she retire or pass in real life, then I suspect the character of Caroline Brady will be "retired." 

Edited October 10, 2015 by Peanut6711

[boes]

Wonder if anybody in town is going to point out that of the two guys who can't stop telling the world that Abby is AMAZING all the time, one is a suspected serial killer and the other actually IS one.

Nah, that actually would be amazing.

Cameron was the smartest of the bunch, hightailing it out of town.

[TeeVee329]

Unfortunately, Tom, Mickey's, Lexie's & Alice's deaths on this show,  Asa's death on OLTL, Stephanie & Aly's deaths on B&B & Silas', Duke's, BJ's, Georgie's, Alan's, Edward's & Lila's deaths on GH, to name a few, prove otherwise.

 

...I think you're missing my point.  Of course, there are characters who died and stayed dead (and in many of the cases you cited, it was because the actor passed (Alice, Lila, Edward)).  My point is that, if they ever wanted to bring back Will, how he died is moot because...soaps.  There's always a way.

[DollEyes]

I get your point, my point is that sometimes when a character dies, they stay dead, whether the actor dies or not.

[Peanut6711]

I doubt we will ever see the current actor playing Will return but I wouldn't be surprised if the role was reprised by CM or even another actor down the road. All it would really take is a writing regime change (which often happens every six months) and a trip to the Dimera witch doctor. ;-)

 

Not counting minor characters/actors not on contract or actors that have passed or retired, don't most of the major dead people usually return? (Geez, even this close to Halloween that statement still feels ridiculous to write).  The only one that really sticks out to me (aside from Orpheus who I've always wanted back) is Isabella. They've kept her dead although she's reappeared as a ghost/angel from time to time.