S14.E16: Sutton on Trial at Sea

[nexxie]

12 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I think Kyle was uncomfortable to bring up seeing your husband at a restaurant “with his girl”.  I know I would feel a little humiliated by someone mentioning it in public and on camera.

Seemed like a dirty trick Boz was playing on Kyle - pretending to be a ‘girl’s girl’ while bringing up such an uncomfortable topic to Kyle. Either Boz is clueless - or she knows exactly what she’s doing.

Edited March 19 by nexxie
typo

[Cosmocrush]

17 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

When Sutton  was saying,  what do you want  from me? I wanted her to rip that huge hat of Dorits,  that I've always  hated, and throw it overboard,  followed  by Erika's  smug look.

I was thinking about Kyle shouting the exact same phrase ("What do you want from me?!") at Dorito after Kyle apologized to her for the PK texting thing.   Dorito did the same thing then: kept picking at  Kyle in this case after receiving an apology.  

[Surrealist]

15 hours ago, dmeets said:

Sadly Boz reverted back at the very end. She has no clue that this pile on happens every year but now that she’s finally snapping back, it’s a side of her you don’t want to know? Back to up Doorit’s ass it is, I guess.

Aside from her questionable taste in men, I have to wonder why a self-made woman like Boz would run offense for a couple of trophy wives (who have nasty personalities).

Lael must be the only person in her immediate family with a good head on her shoulders.

[amarante]

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

Aside from her questionable taste in men, I have to wonder why a self-made woman like Boz would run offense for a couple of trophy wives (who have nasty personalities).

Lael must be the only person in her immediate family with a good head on her shoulders.

Because it provides her with what she thinks is a more permanent spot.

If she didn't align with Dorit what would her story be?

The ridiculous idiocy of two middle aged people wanting to have a child - I fast forward through all of that absurdity. She doesn't want a child and I very much doubt Kelly does either - if he did he would find a woman in their 30's and not someone who needs IVF and probably would be advised not to even attempt pregnancy given her history and age.

She must have more of a brain and good sense than she is showing and there are even glimpses of it at time - like when she she told Dorit there was an apology. At that point one could see her leading a large company/department and being a shrewd manager and evaluator of people. 

[Pattycake2]

First off..Kyle not only has filler in her upper lip, but it looks like she has had it, and probably Botox as well, between her upper lip and nose.  That’s why she looks so odd.  I know someone who has had that done and that area is completely numb.  Kyle can only truly move that area from the lower lip downwards.  Kathy has the same issue, but it’s not so apparent.

Second, never trust Kyle. I used to feel sorry for her about her frequent estrangements from her sisters as well her occasional abandonments by bestie LVP.  She always appeared so hurt.  However, I recently watched some of the old episodes.  At one of the reunions, LVP called Kyle out for not remembering who Nanny K was even though Nanny K had lived with LVP for over 20 years.  Kyle responded that LVP never talked about her.  LVP said that she always considered herself as an older sister to Kyle, but that in all their conversations, Kyle did 90% of the talking, mostly about her own anxieties and hypochondria.  Maybe, just maybe, Kyle’s “sisters “ occasionally pulled away from Kyle because they couldn’t stand her neediness or because after listening to her issues ad nauseam, Kyle had no problem not having their backs or turning on them.

Finally, I watched the episode where Kyle discussed how the girls had always slept in the bed with her and Mau.  Portia was ten and still sharing their bed.  Honey, that’s not how you keep your marriage fresh.

 

 

 

[Surrealist]

40 minutes ago, amarante said:

Because it provides her with what she thinks is a more permanent spot.

If she didn't align with Dorit what would her story be?

The ridiculous idiocy of two middle aged people wanting to have a child - I fast forward through all of that absurdity. She doesn't want a child and I very much doubt Kelly does either - if he did he would find a woman in their 30's and not someone who needs IVF and probably would be advised not to even attempt pregnancy given her history and age.

She must have more of a brain and good sense than she is showing and there are even glimpses of it at time - like when she she told Dorit there was an apology. At that point one could see her leading a large company/department and being a shrewd manager and evaluator of people. 

I kind of wish Boz hadn't aligned herself with any of the HWs. At least, not right off the bat. I've enjoyed her THs in the same way I've enjoyed Jennifer's THs this season.

Clearly, these women know how the show works. But I don't know, I feel like attaching oneself to Dorit right now is like jumping onto a sinking ship.

[Surrealist]

4 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Gotta love Ericka snotting ‘did she peak?’ about Garcelle not talking about who she’s sleeping with now. Bitch, please-your peak was a man thrice your age who treated you like the help And cheated on you.  I’ll take Garcelle’s version of ‘peaking’ any day.

Right?! With the exception of her first husband, the rest of the men she chased are fossils.

[Dr Mama]

55 minutes ago, amarante said:

She must have more of a brain and good sense than she is showing and there are even glimpses of it at time - like when she she told Dorit there was an apology. At that point one could see her leading a large company/department and being a shrewd manager and evaluator of people. 

I had that EXACT thought in that scene--she was attempting to coach Dorit to understand an apology had been made and offer her an opportunity to take accountability for her role in the conflict. I could absolutely see her effectively managing a team in how she handled that whole interaction.

But then the next day she was back to seeing everything from only Dorit's perspective. While I'd like to chalk it up to production interference, she did go to WWHL with Dorit, so they seem to be friends outside of the show.

 

[Stats Queen]

17 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Correction: Erika is also an a- -h- - -.

But that’s an understatement.

Erika nauseates me. She deserves really, really bad things to happen to her.

Really bad.*

It consoles me only that she’s looking pretty rough this season. Her makeup artists are not as talented as the ones she paid with her (so she idiotically hoped) bottomless pit of blood money. Her current minimum-wage stylist is apparently shopping at Forever 21.

* Living day after day with that MLB wall paper (that HE loves surrounding himself with) qualifies as pretty bad.

Forever 21 just filed for bankruptcy, so hopefully her minimum wage stylist with find somewhere else to shop 🤣

[tranquilidade]

Erika is sickening.  Since when is she the morality police?  I would have laughed in her face over that comment.  She is in no position to comment on anyone's behavior when she used her words to cut deeply when it suited her.  Sutton should stop telling that piece of trash she loves her, she isn't worthy of it. She's nothing more than a cheap lying whore who lied about her life and marriage for several seasons then enjoyed the money meant for pain and suffering of people who should have been paid.   

Edited March 20 by tranquilidade

[Wicked]

This episode was boring.  Dorit needs to let the mouse go.  Garcelle needs to let Morgan go.  I don't think it's that Kyle doesn't want to talk about Morgan, I think Morgan doesn't want Kyle to talk about Morgan on camera

[hoodooznoodooz]

Erika’s tight lavender dress was so tacky.

[princelina]

14 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Sutton is all about the open back this season...Sutton's Back!! Her coverup reminded me of a sheer hospital gown.

I think it is funny that Avi magically appears wherever Sutton travels, does she keep him in her luggage and he pops out when they land? I imagine he flies coach.

I'm dying to know if Sutton will have the nerve to take it off and expose that belly!  And I'm starting to really hate Avi.  If someone "invites you on a trip" as we are asked to believe, is everyone allowed to bring their housekeeper?  

7 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Gotta love Ericka snotting ‘did she peak?’ about Garcelle not talking about who she’s sleeping with now. Bitch, please-your peak was a man thrice your age who treated you like the help And cheated on you.  I’ll take Garcelle’s version of ‘peaking’ any day.

I thought Erika was supposed to be starting a hot new career as a dominatrix? 😃

2 hours ago, Wicked said:

This episode was boring.  Dorit needs to let the mouse go.  Garcelle needs to let Morgan go.  I don't think it's that Kyle doesn't want to talk about Morgan, I think Morgan doesn't want Kyle to talk about Morgan on camera

I think it's because Kyle is ruing the day she lost her marriage in order to bait the paparazzi with a fake lesbian storyline! 😃

[hoodooznoodooz]

Dorit S U C K S

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 3/18/2025 at 5:46 PM, Straycat80 said:

These arguments are getting old and booooring! I’m more interested in what they are eating. Whatever Kathy is eating looks good but why is her hair so greasy looking? 

At least she's not pulling extensions out of her head mid-bite!  😂

[hoodooznoodooz]

Erika is a truly disgusting, horrendous creature. 

My hatred for her knows no bounds.

Like, I think her only value to this universe would be as an organ donor.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I don’t understand Kathy Hilton’s motivation for this eccentric, approaching-senility persona. She looked like a homeless, not toothless, person at their dinner at Erickson’s table.

[Chatty Cake]

Another episode of rehashing the same old stuff. There’s nobody to cheer on at this point. Yes Sutton doing that sisterhood crap was dumb because then she turned on Dorit. Dorit’s no better. Kyle acted like Mauricio did something last season to bring on their split. Divorce him or get back together. I’m tired of hearing about their marriage. Erica can shut up. Boz can shut up. I hope Garcelle doesn’t turn on Sutton. Their friendship seemed the most real.
The sound of housewives arguing  has been putting me to sleep as of late. Maybe they need to add it to a sleep app or sound machine.

[Glama]

Sutton: This is not going to be Sutton on trial at sea!

Someone at Bravo: How should we name the episode? 

Bravo Bravo Bravo.

[Keywestclubkid]

I mean when this is YOUR roster that you “peaked” at it’s kinda stupid that you demean anyone else and who they may or may not be sleeping with 

 

I’m just saying 

Erika girl stick to your old old men who you fucked for money and leave G alone 

[hoodooznoodooz]

^^^ Yes. Erika is such a piece of s- - -.
 

She let that Viagra-popping troll call all the shots, because he siphoned millions into her Erika Chahoy Wants to be a Popstar but Has No Talent LLC. All while insisting that her marriage was a match made in heaven.
 

Erika’s peak was a complete, pathetic debacle.

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, princelina said:

I'm dying to know if Sutton will have the nerve to take it off and expose that belly!  And I'm starting to really hate Avi.  If someone "invites you on a trip" as we are asked to believe, is everyone allowed to bring their housekeeper?  

@princelina are you telling us that you don't travel with your own personal man servant? I am clutching my pearls and totally shook! 

I did see a photo (cannot remember where) of all the women in their bathing suits and Sutton took off her coverup, it is actually a cute photo of the group, Kathy is wearing her muu muu.

I also saw a photo of all of the women the night of the white party (aren't we done with them already?), Kyle is in front, and Garcelle is in the very back, you can see her head but not her dress, by coincidence or did Kyle tell her stand in the back, hmmm?

 

[SweetieDarling]

17 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Gotta love Ericka snotting ‘did she peak?’ about Garcelle not talking about who she’s sleeping with now. Bitch, please-your peak was a man thrice your age who treated you like the help And cheated on you.  I’ll take Garcelle’s version of ‘peaking’ any day.

Garcelle fires back with a burn!

https://allabouttrh.com/2025/03/19/garcelle-beauvais-erika-jayne-dating/

Quote

 “I mean, I was a young starlet. Maybe I did peak!” she joked, adding, “I married for love, not for money.”

 

Edited March 20 by SweetieDarling

[amarante]

10 hours ago, princelina said:

I'm dying to know if Sutton will have the nerve to take it off and expose that belly!  And I'm starting to really hate Avi.  If someone "invites you on a trip" as we are asked to believe, is everyone allowed to bring their housekeeper?  

 

I think Avi is along because it is essentially a freebee to bring him since he is on salary anyway and he is essentially being given a vacation in a resort since he is not going to be spending much time actually working - maybe he unpacks and packs but other than that he would be free to just be a tourist. 

If he appears on the show he might even be a tax write off. In terms of tax deductions, performers can write off "special" stuff that is used only for performances. It might also explain why the makeup/hair people are shown on camera so much - they might be a tax write off when they style them for filming AND they probably also give them credit in the social media posts.

I think I might be an outlier because I have absolutely no desire to look at photos of strangers posing in various places so the idea of spending time perusing "content" created by reality star Is beyond me and I find all of the phones being taken out to "record" what is happening to be ludicrous - at parties there are generally people who are filming stuff happening - I don't need to tape mermaids in a pool or other events at a party. 

[JenE4]

They seemed to each have a full-on entourage not just “a glam person”—except for Kathy who is perfectly content to rub her blusher onto her own lips.

if it’s Sutton on trial at sea, then guilty as charged! No one stood up for her, with the exception of Boz telling Dorit to acknowledge Sutton’s apology. But i think that was at dinner. On the high seas, the crew was probably getting the plank ready for Sutton to walk. Even Jennifer who is only Sutton’s friend didn’t say anything! I also thought Garcelle’s tit-for-tat that she didn’t back me, so I’m not backing her wasn’t equivalent. There’s a big difference between you didn’t also badger Kyle about Morgan and not saying a word while Erika and then Dorit jumped on Sutton. I guess she felt like if you want Kyle to be your new bestie instead of me, let her defend you…and she did not.

Speaking of Kyle and Morgan, I think Kyle basically admitted that she is with Morgan when she said when there’s something to say, then I’ll say it, and Garcelle said, then I hope you’ll have something to say—or something to that affect. To me, it almost sounded like if/when I divorce Mauricio and marry Morgan, she’ll be part of the show. Maybe it wasn’t even really what she said, but the look on her face when she said it. It’s like I’m not denying it anymore but it’s not the time yet to put it on the show. Garcelle obviously knows they are together and it’s not just what’s going on—but why are you hiding your relationship from the “reality” show you’re on.

[Pi237]

1 hour ago, amarante said:

 

I think I might be an outlier because I have absolutely no desire to look at photos of strangers posing in various places so the idea of spending time perusing "content" created by reality star Is beyond me and I find all of the phones being taken out to "record" what is happening to be ludicrous 

I agree! I’d so much rather see pictures of the view or your stunning home/room. No interest in you doing kissy duck face, posing in your latest ‘fit……….Of course, I make exceptions for pics of your pets, especially dogs, or snaps of your yummy food. 🤣

 

[Dr Mama]

9 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Erika is a truly disgusting, horrendous creature. 

My hatred for her knows no bounds.

Like, I think her only value to this universe would be as an organ donor.

When she was first on the show, I thought she was fine, but my opinion completely changed when she was so stunningly vile around the issues connected with Tom's fraud. And her revisionist history about that whole time and her "what about me" now just compounds everything for me.

So, I was kind of stunned to see Chrissy Teigen on WWHL this past Monday saying that Erika would be her #1 choice to interview because she "loves" her and feels like they have very similar vibes. I know only a little about Chrissy, but I would never have guessed she could be such a fan of Erika, especially given how nasty Erika was on the show just a couple of seasons ago.

[Keywestclubkid]

5 minutes ago, Dr Mama said:

When she was first on the show, I thought she was fine, but my opinion completely changed when she was so stunningly vile around the issues connected with Tom's fraud. And her revisionist history about that whole time and her "what about me" now just compounds everything for me.

So, I was kind of stunned to see Chrissy Teigen on WWHL this past Monday saying that Erika would be her #1 choice to interview because she "loves" her and feels like they have very similar vibes. I know only a little about Chrissy, but I would never have guessed she could be such a fan of Erika, especially given how nasty Erika was on the show just a couple of seasons ago.

I was such a Erika stan for the longest time lol its kinda sad... yea the tom stuff and her and Denise's daughters soured me on her .. and i cant go back

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

but it’s not the time yet to put it on the show.

I swear if we have to suffer thru another season of will they or won't they...I do not think I can continue to watch.  Another season of Garcelle subtly digging for clues and asking questions she knows Kyle isn't going to give a straight answer.

It is time Kyle, the clock is ticking!

[princelina]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

@princelina are you telling us that you don't travel with your own personal man servant? I am clutching my pearls and totally shook! 

I also saw a photo of all of the women the night of the white party (aren't we done with them already?), Kyle is in front, and Garcelle is in the very back, you can see her head but not her dress, by coincidence or did Kyle tell her stand in the back, hmmm?

Haha I don't!  Clearly I'm a big loser 😄  Your comment reminded me of another thing - when Garcelle snarked about Kyle's poor fashion sense now that they're wearing the same outfit - I often think Garcelle is one of the "worst dressed" on this show so Kyle's the one who should be scared! 😄

1 hour ago, Dr Mama said:

So, I was kind of stunned to see Chrissy Teigen on WWHL this past Monday saying that Erika would be her #1 choice to interview because she "loves" her and feels like they have very similar vibes. I know only a little about Chrissy, but I would never have guessed she could be such a fan of Erika, especially given how nasty Erika was on the show just a couple of seasons ago.

I think Chrissy and Erika make a great pair 🤢

[Dr Mama]

32 minutes ago, princelina said:

I think Chrissy and Erika make a great pair 🤢

Yeah--Chrissy's comments changed my whole opinion of Chrissy--not the other way around!

[Dr Mama]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I was such a Erika stan for the longest time lol its kinda sad... yea the tom stuff and her and Denise's daughters soured me on her .. and i cant go back

Yeah--and the stuff with Garcelle's sons. Horrible.

[ivygirl]

7 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

Garcelle fires back with a burn!

https://allabouttrh.com/2025/03/19/garcelle-beauvais-erika-jayne-dating/

 

This is all just noise to Erika because she can't picture marrying for something as banal and non-monetizable as  love. 

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, JenE4 said:

 

Speaking of Kyle and Morgan, I think Kyle basically admitted that she is with Morgan when she said when there’s something to say, then I’ll say it, and Garcelle said, then I hope you’ll have something to say—or something to that affect. To me, it almost sounded like if/when I divorce Mauricio and marry Morgan, she’ll be part of the show. Maybe it wasn’t even really what she said, but the look on her face when she said it. It’s like I’m not denying it anymore but it’s not the time yet to put it on the show. Garcelle obviously knows they are together and it’s not just what’s going on—but why are you hiding your relationship from the “reality” show you’re on.

In my opinion, there is nothing going on between Kyle and Morgan other than friendship, at this point.

I'm not saying that there may have been a flirtation with some possible romantic overtures in the past, but I don't think that is the case any longer.

I think that this is possibly a situation that blew up in a way that neither Kyle or Morgan anticipated, and now, they don't know how to put out the fire after possibly fanning the flames last year.  I think that Morgan may have "used" Kyle's "friendship" to boost her own popularity (after Kyle started talking Morgan and her music up on her social media).  I think that Kyle also "used" Morgan to bump up her own publicity.  The relationship rumors started after this minor country music entertainer's sexual orientation was reported and she started to get more and more press mentions.  Neither one did anything to dispel those rumors because it served both their purposes at the time.

Now, I think that Morgan has received a lot of press, good and bad, and lots of backlash on social media as being a homewrecker, etc.  She got what she wanted - her name, all of a sudden, is in all the gossip sites, and people may be checking out her music.  BUT, she didn't count on a bad stuff that can take a toll on someone who may not be used to it.  

Kyle, on the other hand, is used to the press, good and bad, but I don't think she expected the lesbian rumors to persist for as long as they have, and she's just trying to avoid the conversations, hoping these rumors will finally go away on their own (which is not working for her, especially because Garcelle keeps digging at it).

Morgan and Kyle both got what they wanted, albeit with the associated fallout of the nasty side of the gossip and paparazzi crap that goes along with it, and now, they can't make it go away, no matter what.  

I think that Morgan has asked Kyle to not mention her on the show, and Kyle is trying to respect that request, as best she can.

Most of these ladies keep their "REAL" life lives off camera - you may see pictures of Kyle with her core group of true friends on her own social media, but rarely do you see any of them (except Faye Resnick) on camera.  Same with the rest of them.  

For any one of these women to call out the others on not putting everything out there on the show is just not right, as they all keep a part of their lives away from the cameras - whether it's a romantic involvement, their kids who don't want to be on the show, their true real-life friends, whatever.  These shows have evolved over the years to be not so much true reality, but the reality they want to present.  They are all guilty of this.

Hey, I could be totally off base on all this, and I'll be eating my words in a few months, LOL!!  

Edited March 20 by njbchlover

[Sweet-tea]

On 3/18/2025 at 7:38 PM, Steph J said:

Sutton is going to regret it if her desperation to be friends with Kyle comes at the cost of her friendship with Garcelle. Garcelle's a real one; Kyle is not worth being friends with - as she has amply demonstrated over and over again on this show. Kyle doesn't have friends. She just collects people to throw under the bus at a later date.

Yes! Sutton is being foolish. As soon as Sutton doesn't benefit Kyle or she does something to irritate her, Kyle will turn on her. Sutton is repeating a pattern from childhood by trying to earn love from a person who is not emotionally available to her. 

The scene of Sutton looking gleeful about Kyle supposedly standing up for her when she made one benign comment sickened me. 

On 3/18/2025 at 7:46 PM, Straycat80 said:

These arguments are getting old and booooring! I’m more interested in what they are eating. Whatever Kathy is eating looks good but why is her hair so greasy looking? 

I wondered the same. She did not look good in that scene. It was one of the few times I've seen her looking rough. 

Edited March 20 by Sweet-tea

[Sweet-tea]

On 3/18/2025 at 9:21 PM, njbchlover said:

That whole boat conversation just highlighted how narcissistic Erika is - she completely flipped the conversation from Sutton/Dorit to herself and her still holding onto a grudge with Sutton from three years ago.  

 

Exactly. Ericka makes everything about herself because she constantly thinks of herself. I can imagine it would be difficult to be in a relationshp with her as the other person would always come second. 

On 3/18/2025 at 9:58 PM, funnygirl said:

Sutton apologized, Dorit is an asshole, Erika is a hypocrite, Kyle deflects. 

They poke at Sutton, Sutton pokes back. 

The only thing Sutton needs to chill out on is trying to get Kyle to be her friend. As has been said in this thread already, Kyle is no one's friend. 

Yes, she's looking weak and desperate when it comes to Kyle, and Kyle will use that to manipulate her. 

On 3/18/2025 at 11:45 PM, dbell1 said:

I never thought I’d say these words but “thank you Boz”. I’m glad she saw through the immediate gaslight after the apology.

Boz was great in that scene. She called Dorit out on her B.S. I was loving it. 

On 3/19/2025 at 11:53 AM, Pi237 said:

Sutton’s ’Kyle is my friend and now everyone else knows it too!”  Major cringy shades of “you like me! You Really like me!”

 

I was mortified for her. Oh Sutton... 

Anyone else notice when Kyle said she doesn't see Kim much and they aren't close? I guess Kathy is the sister she's talking to now. It seems the three of them never all get along at the same time. Or maybe Kye's distanced herself from Kim after her latest relapse? 

Edited March 20 by Sweet-tea

[Sweet-tea]

7 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I swear if we have to suffer thru another season of will they or won't they...I do not think I can continue to watch.  Another season of Garcelle subtly digging for clues and asking questions she knows Kyle isn't going to give a straight answer.

It is time Kyle, the clock is ticking!

Better stil, book Kyle off the show. I'm sick of her. Let's see what the dynamic is like without HMGIC. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Erika still resenting Sutton three years later brings me joy. Because that means Sutton has the power.

[Mindthinkr]

13 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Yes! Sutton is being foolish. As soon as Sutton doesn't benefit Kyle or she does something to irritate her, Kyle will turn on her. Sutton is repeating a pattern from childhood by trying to earn love from a person who is not emotionally available to her. 

I think that is spot on. 

[albarino]

I really wish Sutton would channel Bethenny Frankel and just say "Noted" when they start in on the "You didn't apologize enough..." or "I still feel slighted...." business.  Nothing will ever be enough for Dorit or Erica so I want to quit watching it.

 

[Sweet-tea]

38 minutes ago, albarino said:

I really wish Sutton would channel Bethenny Frankel and just say "Noted" when they start in on the "You didn't apologize enough..." or "I still feel slighted...." business.  Nothing will ever be enough for Dorit or Erica so I want to quit watching it.

 

Sutton should read Let Them by Mel Robbins (especially in relation to Kyle): 

If you've ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or frustrated with where you are, the problem isn't you. The problem is the power you give to other people. Two simple words—Let Them—will set you free. Free from the opinions, drama, and judgments of others. Free from the exhausting cycle of trying to manage everything and everyone around you.

Edited March 21 by Sweet-tea

[Cosmocrush]

On 3/20/2025 at 9:13 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

Another season of Garcelle subtly digging for clues and asking questions she knows Kyle isn't going to give a straight answer.

 

20 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Most of these ladies keep their "REAL" life lives off camera - you may see pictures of Kyle with her core group of true friends on her own social media, but rarely do you see any of them (except Faye Resnick) on camera.  Same with the rest of them.  

Exactly! Is Garcelle dating?  Who is Ericka sleeping with (I'm sure someone is paying her rent and/or legal fees).  She never even mentions girlfriends but then again she probably doesn't have any that aren't on her payroll.  

Sutton brought a real-life friend on the show but Jennifer was already a celebrity. 

Kyle is already addressing the split in her marriage on camera, as well as a personal crisis with the death of a best friend.  That seems pretty real to me. 

 

[ladle1]

I'm not on anybody's side, but if I were it would be the side of the editors, for titling the episode "Sutton on Trial at Sea" after Sutton explicitly said "This is not going to be 'Sutton on Trial at Sea.'" 

The shaaaaade. 

On 3/18/2025 at 8:38 PM, Steph J said:

Erika thinks Garcelle isn't sharing enough because they don't know who she's sleeping with? Remind me: who is Erika sleeping with? Because all we've seen from her this season is her getting someone to redecorate her rental and whining that no one cares enough about her feelings.

Far be it from me to defend Erika, because ew, but I don't think she was saying that she needed to know who Garcelle was sleeping with -- she was just pointing out the hypocrisy of Garcelle being all up in Kyle's grill about her private life when Garcelle doesn't share things like that on the show either. I actually thought Erika had a point there! And I say that as someone who generally likes Garcelle and is not an Erika or Kyle fan. 

[ladle1]

On 3/18/2025 at 9:48 PM, Pi237 said:

I definitely see where Garcelle is coming from, but Kyle dodged Morgan questions for an entire season. She’s not giving up any info now.  If they keep pushing her, they’ll just end up looking like the bad guys and there’s nothing Kyle loves more than playing victim.  I’m not sure what she expects Sutton to do-keep hammering her with ‘are you a lesbian with Morgan!?!’  That will go nowhere and cause us to have to hear that fake gravely crying voice Kyle does. 

Uggghhh, I really, really, really don't want to defend Kyle Richards ever, but I'm not sure what Garcelle wants Kyle to do here. Kyle has said that she and Morgan are just friends. Whether that's true or not, the question has been asked and answered. Whether Garcelle likes or believes the answer, it doesn't seem like there's much else to talk about. One photo of Kyle at Morgan's concert? Garcelle wonders why Kyle would have been back stage and not out in the audience, but that's consistent with Kyle being Morgan's friend (and/or a celebrity). It's possible that the women are right and Kyle is teasing the paps about her relationship with Morgan but to me that's an "eyeroll and move on" type situation. Why does Garcelle care so much? It doesn't really make sense to me.

The reason they are talking about Mau and not Morgan is because there was a public photo of Mau kissing a half-naked woman. If something like that came out featuring Kyle and Morgan then maybe I could see Garcelle's point. 

I do wonder if Sutton and Garcelle had a conversation off camera, in which Garcelle said she was going to come for Kyle this season over the Morgan thing, and Sutton agreed to back her up. That seems to me like the only logical explanation for Garcelle's reaction here. 

Also I think this gets lost because Kyle sucks and Garcelle is generally likable, but it's icky to repeatedly try to get someone to "out" herself to you if she's not ready. 

[bravofan27]

The amount of time they spend getting ready is crazy to me. I see it with Boz, because she has A LOT going on, but I sort of appreciated Kathy's low-key look at dinner. I also caught that when she said, "Rome wasn't conquered in a day" Boz made sure to correct her, with "You are, right Rome wasn't built in a day." I thought Kathy looked strangely at her after that, but I could be wrong. It was a pro move on Boz's part to not directly correct her, but she definitely caught on (Kathy).

There seems to be a disconnect between Kyle and Kathy. It's like they are both there, in the same room, but not really sharing much or talking much. I don't think they are that close, or Kyle is just really careful what she says around her.

I've always thought Garcelle was mean and judgmental, but I didn't get how Sutton didn't have her back-- Sutton told her already that she thought they should drop the Morgan talk, and has nodded when Garcelle has complained about Kyle not talking about Morgan, but why she is so curious is beyond me (aside from the obvious storyline reason). No one else seems to care, or respects Kyle's privacy, and Garcelle is determined to bring it up. Maybe she thought it was an opportunity to show Sutton's alliance, but Sutton clearly isn't concerned or cares about Morgan and Kyle. IMO, Garcelle is getting into single white female controlling with Sutton, being upset with who she is friends with, and pointing out why Kyle is not her friend. She comes off as needy, controlling, insecure, and fake. 

Sutton seems like someone who needs A LOT of attention from her friends, kind of like Shannon Beador, and a LOT of loyalty. Kyle will never be that friend, but Garcelle IMO, will always be around Sutton, without a falling out, because she is happy to be attached at her hip, listen to all her problems, be sympathetic, and basically, make it all about Sutton. 

I've never thought Garcelle was a genuine person though. She hides too much, and is too quick to judge. She's always composed and deliberate in her speech, but her "Wows!" and fake sympathy "therapist" voice when she talks with Sutton when she is upset just seems like acting to me.

Edited March 21 by bravofan27

[ivygirl]

11 hours ago, ladle1 said:

I'm not on anybody's side, but if I were it would be the side of the editors, for titling the episode "Sutton on Trial at Sea" after Sutton explicitly said "This is not going to be 'Sutton on Trial at Sea.'" 

The shaaaaade. 

“On the next episode of ‘Law and Order: Maritime Flaw’…”

[bravofan27]

13 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

“On the next episode of ‘Law and Order: Maritime Flaw’…”

OMG. There is yet another episode? What can they possible keep talking about? I'm ready for this season to be over. 

[princelina]

15 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

What can they possible keep talking about? 

Garcelle can keep asking about Morgan and fussing about Sutton; Kyle can fuss about Mauricio and fight randomly with anyone; Sutton and Dorit can keep arguing about who owes whom an apology; Erika can keep whining about how people treat HER; Boz can continue to bore us with fertility tales; Kathy can keep acting like a moron - I'm sure they could all keep it up until Christmas, no matter how exhausted their audience is 😂

[ButterQueen]

On 3/19/2025 at 12:45 AM, dbell1 said:

Memo to self, never click on a link about Kyle’s confessional dress because then you will see it pop up on every feed for weeks. Nicki Hilton’s sequin monstrosity designs will haunt me forever. ☠️

Can someone please explain Poorit the grifter’s hat to me? What was she hiding in it?  Spare food to pretend to eat later? Kathy’s skin care? Wallets of the boat staff? Or PK’s balls?

I never thought I’d say these words but “thank you Boz”. I’m glad she saw through the immediate gaslight after the apology. And really Poorit? Sutton has been taking shots at you? When exactly could she get a word in edgewise with your cursing ant people all season? 

That’s Mr. PJ’s balls to you….😂😂😂

[hoodooznoodooz]

Argh!!! I don’t believe that Sutton targets women on the show, when they are experiencing the worst that life has to offer.

She offered a loan to Erika when Erika abandoned her troll. She offered to support Dorit, when PJ and Dorit separated.

Erika and Dorit resent how Sutton’s divorce was the Dream Fantasy Divorce, similar to Jennifer Tilley’s. They are so envious. They raged at her, instead of at their caca husbands. Again and again. Sutton was wise to want to ask Erika questions about the egregious blood money Girardi poured into her Talentless and Tacky Vanity Project LLC. Dorit “made a joke about Sutton and alcohol.” Sutton had a legitimate reason to react strongly to it. I completely relate to how Sutton responds to events and behavior that irrefutably affect her and her family.

Edited Sunday at 12:10 PM by hoodooznoodooz