S14.E09: Beachy Keen

[Surrealist]

41 minutes ago, dmeets said:

Damn it, I actually liked Kyle again when she was crawling in the sand holding the wire carcass of her lantern yelling “wait I can fix this!” Can’t we have more fun moments and less divorce drama? 
*sees preview for the rest of the season*
Oh :(

I'm definitely curious about Sutton and her mom. Early on I clocked that there was friction between them. I suspect Sutton's mom was hard on her while she was growing up, and this would explain some of her bizarre mannerisms. 

Her mother even told Garcelle to mind her damn business. 👀

[ZettaK]

Boz, Dorit mentioning to Kyle a year, or a year and a half ago that she and PK were not connecting anymore like they used to doesn't equate Kyle knowing they would get divorced, or that she "lied". Dorit told you herself she didn't know that PK would ask for a separation (let alone divorce) until he told her a few weeks ago. And she was in shock.

Also, Dorit is skeletal (did you notice her arms?) compared to how she looked in those scenes from the past. 

Kyle needs to do something about her lips. 

Edited Yest. at 06:30 AM by ZettaK

[dbell1]

I was really hoping the wind would have taken both Dorit and Kyle out to sea. Maybe we’ll get lucky on the upcoming boat trip and they’ll both go overboard?

[ivygirl]

It feels,so wrong that Dorit keeps bringing up what I think is confidential information about PK—like, what he said in therapy, and what his sponsor (supposedly) said, asked, or proposed. Therapy and AA-related stuff both seem pretty personal and confidential. Am I wrong? Is it cool for Dorit to drop these nuggets, especially when PK isn’t there to share his side?

Edited Yest. at 06:51 AM by ivygirl

[Surrealist]

15 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

It feels,so wrong that Dorit keeps bringing up what I think is confidential information about PK—like, what he said in therapy, and what his sponsor (supposedly) said, asked, or proposed. Therapy and AA-related stuff both seem pretty personal and confidential. Am I wrong? Is it cool for Dorit to drop these nuggets, especially when PK isn’t there to share his side?

No, I agree with you. Dorit shouldn't be openly discussing PK's issues on camera. It's a violation of his privacy, and he's no longer on the show anyway.

[swankie]

6 hours ago, QQQQ said:

A potential storyline like Jagger asking about their divorce would fuel her for months.

Am I the only one that doesn't believe he said all of that?  Is he old enough to be scouring the internet reading his mother's instagram posts?  And if you're trying to hide the whole divorce situation from your kids, why are you posting about it and why are you letting your small child access it?  I think Dorit embellishes the truth a lot.  

[ZettaK]

20 minutes ago, swankie said:

Am I the only one that doesn't believe he said all of that?  Is he old enough to be scouring the internet reading his mother's instagram posts?  And if you're trying to hide the whole divorce situation from your kids, why are you posting about it and why are you letting your small child access it?  I think Dorit embellishes the truth a lot.  

Jagger is 10 years old. Other kids could have told him (they probably heard it from their gossiping parents). Is Dorit so naive to think that she would hide the separation from the kids, especially because she is on tv, and she posted an announcement herself on IG?

Edited Yest. at 09:11 AM by ZettaK

[QQQQ]

Do I believe Jagger found out about the divorce? Yes. Do I believe the picture Dorit painted surrounding the conversation (coyly saying he had a question, asking if Dorit and PK would always be BFFs...)? No. That was pure Dorit/BS.

[Pi237]

So, Kyle can harass people about Telling the Truth,but when it's her turn- everyone's in a cult? Nice try, Kyle.  Even if Dorit is just digging for info on PK, I still wouldn't be ok with someone telling my husband that they keep his secrets and always will.  Kyle's really trying to spin this to make herself look like a victim, as usual, But she got herself into this mess by not Telling the Truth. Thank you, editors, for those clips proving Kyle's endless hypocrisy! 

Many things are true at once -Kyles 'such a f~cking' liar!' about the Texas, but isn't trying to bang PK.  Dorit is super annoying when she's like a dog with a bone and isn't really mad about mims and texas, but wants to know what PKs secretly saying about her and feels Kyles hiding that info.

Loved Sutton holding Kyle's feet to the fire with that painfully obvious apology ploy to 'rally the troops.' 

I never understand people asking the waiter how a certain food is. 'How are your meatballs?' What's he going to say, Ugh, they're Awful! Don't get them! Lol

Just noticed Dorit's tagline,  who said she looks like a doll? Does she mean a blow up doll?

No way Jaggy asked if Momma and Dada are still bestie friends. Lmao 

[Keywestclubkid]

Dorit complaining the women dont have her back ... UMMM lets flash back to when you said ON CAMERA .. its not my child .... why would you expect someone to treat you better then you have treated their children? F you Dorit

[janiema]

Did I hear correctly that PK’s sponsor said the couple should separate? 

[Mindthinkr]

42 minutes ago, janiema said:

Did I hear correctly that PK’s sponsor said the couple should separate? 

    I believe the phrase used was “time apart”. The thing about PK’s sponsor is that he is there for PKs best interests. Not Dorits. I’m sure, for her, it would have been difficult to defend herself two against one. 
    Frankly I don’t know how he has put up with her all these years. The amounts of money she spends on designer wear must set his budget up a few notches. Then listening to her go on and on…and on…ad nauseam. She seems to be a lot of work. 
    I think he just got tired of all it takes to be her husband. I’m sure he loves his children, but I can’t recall seeing him play with either of his children or doing things with them that don’t include her. An example would be taking Jagger to a ball game or his daughter to ballet class. I’m not inferring that he’s a bad parent. He’s just been so absent due to his work travels and daily routines especially when he was a heavy drinker. 

[nexxie]

9 hours ago, ZettaK said:

That's why she is furious this season. She also thinks, or hopes that PK would disclose some information to Kyle, but PK and Kyle were never close friends (PK was Mauricio's friend), and PK is not stupid either.

And Dorit has been "in court" all season, with her many statements about PK's drinking. Now, badgering Kyle to swear loyalty to her (and not to PK), she and her attorneys are hoping Kyle can be manipulated to be on their side in court.

The others - thrilled to have their producer coworker in the hot seat - have happily volunteered to be useful idiots. (Except Erika, who has had helpful experience with cons and courts.)

[Cosmocrush]

12 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I LOVED THAT FREAKIN' TOASTER!!!!  And, it was a great housewarming gift!  

Thank you!  I wasn't sure what that was!  I thought it might be a handbag, lol.  

 

11 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Frankly I don’t know how he has put up with her all these years. The amounts of money she spends on designer wear must set his budget up a few notches. Then listening to her go on and on…and on…ad nauseam. She seems to be a lot of work. 

Well, since Dorito called him a "raging alcoholic" and PK himself said he had recently stopped drinking altogether I think we know the answer.  😏  I know I can't even listen to Dorito on this show without a glass of wine. 

 

[janiema]

17 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

    I believe the phrase used was “time apart”. The thing about PK’s sponsor is that he is there for PKs best interests. Not Dorits. I’m sure, for her, it would have been difficult to defend herself two against one. 
    Frankly I don’t know how he has put up with her all these years. The amounts of money she spends on designer wear must set his budget up a few notches. Then listening to her go on and on…and on…ad nauseam. She seems to be a lot of work. 
    I think he just got tired of all it takes to be her husband. I’m sure he loves his children, but I can’t recall seeing him play with either of his children or doing things with them that don’t include her. An example would be taking Jagger to a ball game or his daughter to ballet class. I’m not inferring that he’s a bad parent. He’s just been so absent due to his work travels and daily routines especially when he was a heavy drinker. 

I agree that she is a lot but so is he. It just seems inappropriate for some completely biased person to be part of the conversation. Dorit is in a much more difficult situation than Kyle. If PK has any money left it may be well hidden. Last year he was talking about Crypto. Dorit should get the name of Sutton’s forensic accountant.

[Straycat80]

Garcelle was on  WWHL and Andy commented on the toaster and Garcelle said she hadn’t used it yet because ‘it’s too pretty’. Lol! 

[Marley]

Dorit & this whole 10 year rule seems like bs to me. Do her & PK even have money? Everything I read they are in debt & lived beyond their means so who cares about a 10 year rule lol.

[Keywestclubkid]

19 minutes ago, Marley said:

Dorit & this whole 10 year rule seems like bs to me. Do her & PK even have money? Everything I read they are in debt & lived beyond their means so who cares about a 10 year rule lol.

this part they have declared bankruptcy how many times? what is left to split in the states? isnt most of their income from overseas anyway I mean I guess that could be divided 

[Natalie68]

15 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Kyle’s nightmare is coming true 

She’s been reduced to filming wandering around a empty house looking out windows flinching from birds 

She has become Kim lol

And how many freaking seasons is she gonna milk this separation? I think one was enough. She isn't giving any deets so I do not care. I am here for free Mau.  Get a fucking life Kyle!

15 hours ago, Steph J said:

Kyle, your kids want to go to lunch without you to bitch about you. Let them have that. If you're lonely, call up your own sisters to hang out (if you're on speaking terms with them this week).

Portia was doing everything she could to NOT say you aren't welcome.  Talk about a human dingleberry.  

[Natalie68]

15 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

UO, I don’t find Boz attractive at all. Probably because she’s Dorit’s “ride or die”.

I think she is pretty. I like her colorful outfits. 

15 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

It just feels like to much Dorit … and it’s the same conversation for what is this 9 episodes.. we are at the beating of the dead horse old 

I would rather beat that horse than talk about Kyle's separation.  Unless they get into the nitty gritty.  HA!

14 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Any one know if Garcelle’s beach house is ok and untouched by the fires? 

 

14 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

No fires in Oxnard.

I was furious at seeing them with those lanterns.  Jesus fucking christ.  CA is a tinderbox.  Are those even legal here??  Very irresponsible.

[funnygirl]

Dorit really doesn't know how to shut the f*ck up. 

 

[njbchlover]

10 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Boz, Dorit mentioning to Kyle a year, or a year and a half ago that she and PK were not connecting anymore like they used to doesn't equate Kyle knowing they would get divorced, or that she "lied". Dorit told you herself she didn't know that PK would ask for a separation (let alone divorce) until he told her a few weeks ago. And she was in shock.

Also, Dorit is skeletal (did you notice her arms?) compared to how she looked in those scenes from the past. 

Kyle needs to do something about her lips. 

100% what you said here!!!  All couples go through ups and downs, and Dorit shared this one "down" situation with Kyle.  I remember this, and then, I remember Dorit doubling down after, saying that she and PK were "better than ever" and their marriage was strong.  So, Boz can have a seat somewhere else with all this b.s. she's saying in her talking heads.

Some may like Boz, but I am finding her pretty annoying.  She is inserting herself into something about which she knows not much.  At this point, I'm waiting for her to basically blame Kyle and the text messages for Dorit and PK's breakup.  

 

[Marley]

I don't like Boz. She annoys me. I also think Dorit is a user & is friends with ppl for her own gain & what they can do for her so I don't buy Dorit & Boz having this amazing friendship. Maybe I'm just a bitch tho lol.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, Cosmocrush said:

Thank you!  I wasn't sure what that was!  I thought it might be a handbag, lol.  

 

 

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Garcelle was on  WWHL and Andy commented on the toaster and Garcelle said she hadn’t used it yet because ‘it’s too pretty’. Lol! 

https://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/smeg-dolce-and-gabbana-2-slice-toaster-blu-mediterraneo/?catalogId=79&sku=8733975&cm_ven=PLA&cm_cat=Google&cm_pla=Electrics > Toasters %26 Toaster Ovens&cm_ite=8733975_14571727833_pla-1418851114941&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwOe8BhCCARIsAGKeD54_oOFbD_-S4ixYPMWtqqMr7gEowchvVu2pvfyc9KaBawQAcV3ffTAaAnRJEALw_wcB

I actually don't know if I would use it, either, especially at $700.00, but it would sure look gorgeous on my kitchen counter. 

I hide my plain old stainless steel toaster in a cabinet and take it out when I need it.

[Pi237]

Don't hate me, but I think the toaster looks tacky. But I usually think that about most of their designer swag. From Kyle's hot pink neon sign to Crystals Hermes purse to Erika's huge Cartier panther ring, Dorit's and Garcelle's Chanel & LV outfits with labels all over them to most of Sutton's couture wardrobe, its all so loud and ugly . Good thing for me I'm broke haha

Edited Yest. at 06:25 PM by Pi237

[JenE4]

9 hours ago, swankie said:

Am I the only one that doesn't believe he said all of that?  Is he old enough to be scouring the internet reading his mother's instagram posts?  And if you're trying to hide the whole divorce situation from your kids, why are you posting about it and why are you letting your small child access it?  I think Dorit embellishes the truth a lot.  

I totally believe that a classmate’s mom saw the Instagram post and said something to her kid, who said something to Jagger. I can’t believe Dorit and PK haven’t spoken to the children—and even when asked directly, deflected it!! They’re just teaching these kids not to trust what they observe in front of them and we don’t talk about feelings and just pretend that everything is perfect. I hope when they’re splitting up the assets, they put aside therapy money for those children!

47 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

 

https://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/smeg-dolce-and-gabbana-2-slice-toaster-blu-mediterraneo/?catalogId=79&sku=8733975&cm_ven=PLA&cm_cat=Google&cm_pla=Electrics > Toasters %26 Toaster Ovens&cm_ite=8733975_14571727833_pla-1418851114941&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwOe8BhCCARIsAGKeD54_oOFbD_-S4ixYPMWtqqMr7gEowchvVu2pvfyc9KaBawQAcV3ffTAaAnRJEALw_wcB

I actually don't know if I would use it, either, especially at $700.00, but it would sure look gorgeous on my kitchen counter. 

I hide my plain old stainless steel toaster in a cabinet and take it out when I need it.

Am I going crazy? I feel like we’ve already talked about this toaster, including someone posting a link to it. Maybe scenes were shot out of order and it was displayed in the earlier episode when Garcelle was showing her house? Or maybe it was a different Bravo show? Perhaps Southern Charm when Salley had a housewarming party and maybe she happens to have the exact same toaster?

The wish lanterns being torn to shreds in the wind and tumbling across the sand was an apt metaphor. Ain’t none of your wishes coming true! However, that was probably one of my favorite scenes just by how hard they were all laughing. That’s the kind of moment friends will probably always remember and reminisce about. I wish these Bravo shows had more genuine fun moments like that and less petty fighting for storylines.

[princelina]

23 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Don't hate me, but I think the toaster looks tacky. But I usually think that about most of their designer swag. From Kyle's hot pink neon sign to Crystals Hermes purse to Erika's huge Cartier panther ring, Dorit's and Garcelle's Chanel & LV outfits with labels all over them to most of Sutton's couture wardrobe, its all so loud and ugly . Good thing for me I'm broke haha

I like the toaster, but as with most things they have that I like, I don't like them enough to pay their ridiculous prices!  I'd have a birkin if it was $80 at TJMaxx - it looks handy enough.  But that neon sign of Kyle's is the worst of the worst things I've ever seen any housewife on any franchise ever!  Shame on the entire household and her "designer" friend Faye for not insisting it be removed immediately!

22 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Am I going crazy? I feel like we’ve already talked about this toaster, including someone posting a link to it. Maybe scenes were shot out of order and it was displayed in the earlier episode when Garcelle was showing her house? Or maybe it was a different Bravo show? Perhaps Southern Charm when Salley had a housewarming party and maybe she happens to have the exact same toaster?

I believe it was this show because the ladies talked about the toaster before - which is why Jennifer brought one as a gift!

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

 

https://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/smeg-dolce-and-gabbana-2-slice-toaster-blu-mediterraneo/?catalogId=79&sku=8733975&cm_ven=PLA&cm_cat=Google&cm_pla=Electrics > Toasters %26 Toaster Ovens&cm_ite=8733975_14571727833_pla-1418851114941&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwOe8BhCCARIsAGKeD54_oOFbD_-S4ixYPMWtqqMr7gEowchvVu2pvfyc9KaBawQAcV3ffTAaAnRJEALw_wcB

I actually don't know if I would use it, either, especially at $700.00, but it would sure look gorgeous on my kitchen counter. 

I hide my plain old stainless steel toaster in a cabinet and take it out when I need it.

I think the toaster is so cute. 

[Surrealist]

2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

And how many freaking seasons is she gonna milk this separation? I think one was enough. She isn't giving any deets so I do not care. I am here for free Mau.  Get a fucking life Kyle!

Portia was doing everything she could to NOT say you aren't welcome.  Talk about a human dingleberry.  

One thing I'll give Mauricio is that he fully embraces being a "Girl Dad" and spends a ton of time with his daughters. I don't get a "If only I had a son!" vibe from him. I find that refreshing. So as far as Dad material is concerned, she picked a great guy in Mauricio.

And yeah, Kyle, Portia and her sisters don't need you in every facet of their lives. Portia is almost out of the house too. Give her space.

45 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

The wish lanterns being torn to shreds in the wind and tumbling across the sand was an apt metaphor. Ain’t none of your wishes coming true! However, that was probably one of my favorite scenes just by how hard they were all laughing. That’s the kind of moment friends will probably always remember and reminisce about. I wish these Bravo shows had more genuine fun moments like that and less petty fighting for storylines.

I wish the show had more of these scenes too, instead of the manufactured drama.

I watch MDLLA too, and I loved when they would cut back on the personal drama and focus on the house porn. 

I'd rather see the lifestyle porn on this show.

[ZettaK]

2 hours ago, princelina said:

I like the toaster, but as with most things they have that I like, I don't like them enough to pay their ridiculous prices!  I'd have a birkin if it was $80 at TJMaxx - it looks handy enough.  But that neon sign of Kyle's is the worst of the worst things I've ever seen any housewife on any franchise ever!  Shame on the entire household and her "designer" friend Faye for not insisting it be removed immediately!

I believe it was this show because the ladies talked about the toaster before - which is why Jennifer brought one as a gift!

 

2 hours ago, JenE4 said:

I totally believe that a classmate’s mom saw the Instagram post and said something to her kid, who said something to Jagger. I can’t believe Dorit and PK haven’t spoken to the children—and even when asked directly, deflected it!! They’re just teaching these kids not to trust what they observe in front of them and we don’t talk about feelings and just pretend that everything is perfect. I hope when they’re splitting up the assets, they put aside therapy money for those children!

Am I going crazy? I feel like we’ve already talked about this toaster, including someone posting a link to it. Maybe scenes were shot out of order and it was displayed in the earlier episode when Garcelle was showing her house? Or maybe it was a different Bravo show? Perhaps Southern Charm when Salley had a housewarming party and maybe she happens to have the exact same toaster?

The wish lanterns being torn to shreds in the wind and tumbling across the sand was an apt metaphor. Ain’t none of your wishes coming true! However, that was probably one of my favorite scenes just by how hard they were all laughing. That’s the kind of moment friends will probably always remember and reminisce about. I wish these Bravo shows had more genuine fun moments like that and less petty fighting for storylines.

We saw a SMEG toaster in an earlier episode. And there were some discussions here. Dolce & Gabbana gave Sutton one from their collaboration with SMEG as a gift during her first season as a friend. 

[Stats Queen]

5 hours ago, njbchlover said:

 

https://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/smeg-dolce-and-gabbana-2-slice-toaster-blu-mediterraneo/?catalogId=79&sku=8733975&cm_ven=PLA&cm_cat=Google&cm_pla=Electrics > Toasters %26 Toaster Ovens&cm_ite=8733975_14571727833_pla-1418851114941&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwOe8BhCCARIsAGKeD54_oOFbD_-S4ixYPMWtqqMr7gEowchvVu2pvfyc9KaBawQAcV3ffTAaAnRJEALw_wcB

I actually don't know if I would use it, either, especially at $700.00, but it would sure look gorgeous on my kitchen counter. 

I hide my plain old stainless steel toaster in a cabinet and take it out when I need it.

Our old stainless steel toaster is out in all its glory. We have a small kitchen.

[RealHousewife]

4 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Our old stainless steel toaster is out in all its glory. We have a small kitchen.

I use my toaster frequently, so I can't imagine hiding it even I it's not some designer piece of art.

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

Our old stainless steel toaster is out in all its glory. We have a small kitchen.

 

2 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I use my toaster frequently, so I can't imagine hiding it even I it's not some designer piece of art.

I have limited counter space, so even though we do use the toaster almost daily, I do put it away all the time.  If I didn't have this other Ninja Flip Air Fryer thingy on the counter, the toaster would be there.

BUT....if I had that SMEG blue and white toaster, that would be on my counter all the time, just for the beauty of it, and the Ninja Flip thing would go in a cabinet or somewhere else.  🤣

[njbchlover]

So...the end of this episode was pretty perfect - all seemed to be good among all of the women - and there was laughter and good times.  Maybe they should just have ended the season at this point!!  

BUT...the dead birds on the beach??  Whoa!!!  I wonder what happened - the women said there was more than one.

I only could imagine what Ubah from RHONY would have said - she freaked out about garbage on the beach in Puerto Rico.  🤣

What I didn't understand at all is why they didn't leave the beach sooner?  It looked as though they were all freezing, with blankets wrapped around them and everything.  It was also very windy.  I guess production and catering was all set up on the beach, and couldn't shift back to Garcelle's house, where I would assume it may have been less windy and probably a bit warmer.  I give all the women props for sticking it out in the chilly wind.

And, whoever told Garcelle that red-toned wig was a good look did her a disservice.  Everything about that wig is horrible and really, really, really cheap and fake looking.  

 

[OlderThanDirt]

It still feels like this is all an act by Dorit and Kyle to appear relevant this season. It also diverts attention away from what's really happening between Mo, PK and their wives in this separation period where presumably divorces are being negotiated.

[SemiCharmedLife]

14 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

 

Well, since Dorito called him a "raging alcoholic" and PK himself said he had recently stopped drinking altogether I think we know the answer.  😏  I know I can't even listen to Dorito on this show without a glass of wine. 

 

As long as you are pouring it in the appropriate stemware!  

[Twiz44]

Couture??

[JSClibrarian]

On 1/28/2025 at 11:59 PM, ZettaK said:

After ten years of marriage the wife in this case gets a larger share of the marital assets/alimony (if there is not a pre nup agreement). Dorit would be equally responsible for the debt accumulated during the marriage, but not for debt accumulated after a legal separation.

And is why Tom Cruise famously filed for divorce from Nicole Kidman after they were married...9 years and 10 months. 😞

[njbchlover]

3 hours ago, Twiz44 said:

Couture??

What the everloving fuck is that?????  

She looks like she's got Sesame Street's Elmo's arms on the sides of her head!!!