S03.E03: Nail in a Coffin

[AntFTW]

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The Traitors must meet outside of their tower to commit their next murder in plain sight.

Air date: January 9, 2025

[AntFTW]

Carolyn being a traitor is... going exactly how I thought it would go. She's all over the place.

[anniebird]

3 hours ago, AntFTW said:

Carolyn being a traitor is... going exactly how I thought it would go. She's all over the place.

I stopped watching Survivor because I can't stand Probst and I hate the changes to the game they've allowed so I'm not familiar with recent contestants but she is nuts. I don't know why they thought choosing her as a traitor was a good idea because she could blow up the whole game. And I can't tell if that's vocal fry or if she just naturally growls.

Bob the drag queen is my least favorite kind of player in any reality show - he immediately loses sight of the fact that it's a game where everyone is a suspect and viciously attacks anyone who suspects him. Say what you will about Boston Rob, he always knows it's a game and never takes anything personally.

[DEL901]

I just binged the first three episodes.   Rob was masterful solidifying the target on Tony.   And he has to get Bob the Drag Queen to take a half step back.  Not too far because that would be suspicious, but he is going to piss folks off. 

And very impressed with Dylan.  He is on to Zion and also seems to know when to change tactics.  

[AntFTW]

52 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

Rob was masterful solidifying the target on Tony.

Interesting that he chose to bail out Bob the Drag Queen, when he could have easily said nothing.

I'm also thinking that the editing might be misleading and Tony was probably already in the hot seat, overwhelmingly, and Rob may have chosen to jump on board to blend in with the numbers.

[Michichick]

1 hour ago, DEL901 said:

And very impressed with Dylan.  He is on to Zion and also seems to know when to change tactics.  

Who is Zion?

[SourK]

I'm watching this simultaneously with the UK version, and one thing I find really funny is how bitterly the contestants on this version argue about who has to sacrifice for everything. I legitimately am worried every time that no one will do it and they'll just stand there until the challenge is over.

I also enjoyed how they completely failed the circus challenge after even that. The editing was great -- just a string of wrong doors, followed by everyone standing around looking sad, followed by someone going, "That wasn't fun," while they all walked away.

I came into this rooting for Bob the DQ, and I think it's interesting to have someone play a loud Traitor, but I think he's too focused on getting to play mind games and not focused enough on trying to stick around. In this game, people also vote you out because they don't like you.

On the other hand, I liked Jeremy this episode, because at least he's trying to play normally and find a traitor instead of just trying to play a numbers game.

[anniebird]

3 minutes ago, SourK said:

I'm watching this simultaneously with the UK version, and one thing I find really funny is how bitterly the contestants on this version argue about who has to sacrifice for everything. I legitimately am worried every time that no one will do it and they'll just stand there until the challenge is over.

I also enjoyed how they completely failed the circus challenge after even that. The editing was great -- just a string of wrong doors, followed by everyone standing around looking sad, followed by someone going, "That wasn't fun," while they all walked away.

I came into this rooting for Bob the DQ, and I think it's interesting to have someone play a loud Traitor, but I think he's too focused on getting to play mind games and not focused enough on trying to stick around. In this game, people also vote you out because they don't like you.

On the other hand, I liked Jeremy this episode, because at least he's trying to play normally and find a traitor instead of just trying to play a numbers game.

Bob the DQ has completely forgotten that this entire game consists of everyone suspecting everyone else. How dare anyone suspect him!!!!

[DEL901]

5 hours ago, Michichick said:

Who is Zion?

Ugh.  I don’t know how that happened.  I meant Bob. 

[AntFTW]

I’m trying to figure out who exactly is Carolyn playing with. Who are her people?

I thought she was going to play with the Survivors but she told Danielle that Jeremy said her name, so it seems like she playing with the traitors. However, her, Bob and Danielle are not on the same page when they huddle in the turret. She feels like they’re not really listening to her so… she’s kind of playing with the traitors? One foot in, one foot out?

[Soapy Goddess]

Carolyn is freakin' mess. I don't think she even knows who she's playing with. 

IMO, she's nothing but an idiot who disagrees with her fellow traitors and just sits around making stupid faces. She's as phony as a 3-dollar bill.

[65mickey]

12 hours ago, DEL901 said:

I just binged the first three episodes.   Rob was masterful solidifying the target on Tony.   And he has to get Bob the Drag Queen to take a half step back.  Not too far because that would be suspicious, but he is going to piss folks off. 

I am hoping that this clown, Bob the Drag Queen gets voted off sooner rather than later. Who does he think he is?  Does he think he is running the show and no one can speak out against him? He is the type of guy who thinks that he is smarter than he really is and will trip up and piss too many people off. If it comes to Rob or Bob lasting  the longest my money is on Rob. 

[snarts]

My mouth was agape for most of the episode at just how stupid most of these people are. How did they not formulate a strategy to, I don't know, count the doors before starting the challenge? There were only 4! The laws of probability would've ensured they'd make it to the end with # of teams they had, especially since door #1 was the right answer in the first section. 

I actually enjoy Boston Rob so I'm happy he's here. Like @anniebird mentions, he doesn't take the game ort himself too seriously. Contrast that Wes, who thinks he's so much better than he actually is (ex. he's appeared on The Challenge 20 times but has won only twice and he's nowhere near the top of the $ list).

Bob the Drag Queen's ego is OOC. Yelling while they're hiding the secret room. I actually hope that the not-Tara Lipinski chick catches them exiting. This game is way too easy for the Traitors. 

Edited January 11 by snarts

[Stats Queen]

3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I am hoping that this clown, Bob the Drag Queen gets voted off sooner rather than later. Who does he think he is?  Does he think he is running the show and no one can speak out against him? He is the type of guy who thinks that he is smarter than he really is and will trip up and piss too many people off. If it comes to Rob or Bob lasting  the longest my money is on Rob. 

He is more and more annoying each episode, so I’m dreading Episode 4. I hope he gets voted out.

[DEL901]

3 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

He is more and more annoying each episode, so I’m dreading Episode 4. I hope he gets voted out.

Rob will feed his ego(since they are both traitors) until the right time comes to stab him in the back. You could see how bad Rob felt about turning on Tony and likely hates Bob for making him need to do it. 

[QQQQ]

Maybe I misunderstood the door challenge but any theories why didn't they just try the doors from 1 to 4 vs. describing them by their design? Also, I had no idea Down to Earth was a show so I keep thinking they are describing Dylan.

Edited January 12 by QQQQ

[howiveaddict]

16 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Carolyn is freakin' mess. I don't think she even knows who she's playing with. 

IMO, she's nothing but an idiot who disagrees with her fellow traitors and just sits around making stupid faces. She's as phony as a 3-dollar bill.

I couldn't stand her on Survivor either.  Her jerkiness also gets on my nerves.

[ichbin]

I stopped watching Big Brother years ago but Danielle made such a negative impression that it all came rushing back as soon as I saw her on this show. 

I always got a kick out of Rob's gameplay but I can't help but think it seems like he has lost some of that joyful spark that used to accompany it.  

13 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I am hoping that this clown, Bob the Drag Queen gets voted off sooner rather than later. Who does he think he is?  Does he think he is running the show and no one can speak out against him? He is the type of guy who thinks that he is smarter than he really is and will trip up and piss too many people off. If it comes to Rob or Bob lasting  the longest my money is on Rob. 

Bob seems to be taking this far too personally and seriously.  I feel an implosion coming.

[Maya]

5 hours ago, QQQQ said:

Maybe I misunderstood the door challenge but any theories why didn't they just try the doors from 1 to 4 vs. describing them by their design? Also, I had no idea Down to Earth was a show so I keep thinking they are describing Dylan's.

I was wondering if they were specifically told they couldn’t number the doors, and had to describe them. Otherwise it’s just too stupid. 

 

[Giuseppe]

Glad I'm not the only one wondering about the door challenge. I was half-paying attention to the rules and wondered if I'd missed an explanation where they were told they could not try the doors in order, or just say "we're going in the 2nd door from the left, etc."

[peachmangosteen]

Yea, I think they must have been told not to use numbers with the doors. The editing for this show is atrocious. SO much relevant information is kept from us. It irritates the hell outta me.

I don't know why it's bothering me so much now that this show is so fake. I mean, House of Villains is too and yet I can still enjoy that. But it's just really starting to piss me off how manufactured The Traitors has become. I don't feel like it was so blatant in the first season. I guess having 'stars' just makes it inevitable really. Sigh.

On 1/10/2025 at 10:12 PM, SourK said:

On the other hand, I liked Jeremy this episode, because at least he's trying to play normally and find a traitor instead of just trying to play a numbers game.

I go back and forth on Jeremy but I am liking him here so far. He seems to want to play the game the way it was intended/the way I personally prefer to watch and I am appreciating that.

I hate so many of these people. I want to see almost all of them eliminated already lol.

Edited January 12 by peachmangosteen

[peachmangosteen]

Oh also, Zac Efron's brother is giving major Pilot Pete vibes. I hope he can somehow get out both Bob the Drag Queen and Rob but I fear he'll be a dumbass and work with Rob.

[TiredMe]

I honestly only know a few of these people. I liked Bob the first two episodes then he worked my last nerve in third. So he can go.

i agree with whoever said I’d get Boston Rob out immediately given his history whether I thought he was a traitor or not. But instead they’re all sucking up to him.

Edited January 12 by TiredMe

[peachmangosteen]

1 minute ago, TiredMe said:

i agree with whoever said I’d get Boston Rob out immediately given his history whether I thought he was a traitor or not. But instead they’re all sucking up to him.

Like everyone always does. It's mind boggling. He isn't even cute, funny, or charming lol.

[violet and green]

I'm so sad Tony is out this soon. I love him on my tv. Also sad he left so upset. Didn't realise how quite short he is, until I saw him standing next to all those heffalumps at the woodland challenge.

As usual, too many Housewives. And I wish those two loud know-it-all Traitors would shut up and pay attention to Carolyn's reads, as she has been spot on so far. Rather hoping she and Boston team up to take it deep, and she is left at the end to win, as he sure won't be!

[peachmangosteen]

9 hours ago, violet and green said:

As usual, too many Housewives.

Same amount of them as Survivor players. Well, less now.

The Survivor and BB contingents now have the most people. Although, Gabby/Nikki/Chrishell seem to also be a bloc so they tie them. Plus, I don't think Derrick really gives a shit about playing with or protecting Danielle/Britney and obviously Rob doesn't care about playing with or protecting anyone. The Gabby/Nikki/Chrishell alliance is probably the strongest.

[jabRI]

I watched maybe one season of the UK version.  I actually preferred 'regular' people because other contestants have no preconceived notions of them.  Everyone knew Tony was as expert liar so of course they want him out.  They know Rob is a self-appointed master strategist so of course they listen to him.  Just saying it kind of defeats the purpose, and takes away half the fun of the show

[AntFTW]

11 minutes ago, jabRI said:

I watched maybe one season of the UK version.  I actually preferred 'regular' people because other contestants have no preconceived notions of them. 

I watched the Canada version recently. Apparently, many of the contestants there were on previous reality shows, but considering I've never watched Big Brother Canada or any other Canadian shows, they were complete unknowns to me. They were all regular people to me. 😂

Edited January 13 by AntFTW

[Tachi Rocinante]

Was the Bachelorette chick this big of a fucking ditz on her own show?  That would have been absolute torture to watch. Did any of the contestants quit out of their own self respect?

And again for those in the back: Rob was gifted his only win.  I hope someone mentions it.

Edited January 13 by Tachi Rocinante

[MicheleinPhilly]

2 hours ago, AntFTW said:

I watched the Canada version recently. Apparently, many of the contestants there were on previous reality shows, but considering I've never watched Big Brother Canada or any other Canadian shows, they were complete unknowns to me. They were all regular people to me. 😂

That's kind of where I am with the American version. I knew/know 4 contestants here: Rob, Tony, Bob Harper, and Britney's ex. Everyone else is a very extra "regular" person for me. 

[violet and green]

7 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Same amount of them as Survivor players.

Still too many!

[peachmangosteen]

4 hours ago, Tachi Rocinante said:

And again for those in the back: Rob was gifted his only win.  I hope someone mentions it.

Thank you! And it would be amazing to see someone call out how overrated he is but even if they did it probably wouldn't even air. I really doubt they even would though because for some reason I can't understand literally everyone has bought into the hype of him.

[LeDucDiableBleu]

Danielle is playing rather poorly as a traitor, imo. She's very "my way or the highway" in the turret which will come to bite her when there are new traitors because right now Bob is protecting her. She spoke too much and too loudly at breakfast. It was very dumb of her to gather the traitors (minus Carolyn) and meet in the hidden room at the same time. It would have been much better to casually say a few things to the traitors quietly in passing, and ask them for their ideas instead of steamrolling with her plan. Gathering together also caused problems with Carolyn by leaving her out, and she was walking around trying to find them to strategize. Not to mention the risk of everyone else wondering where they were, and possibly hearing them. Unless I missed a rule that they all had to be together to sign the scroll (which I might have).

I don't think Carolyn is a hot mess yet. I think she's trying really hard to make good moves, but none of the other traitors are taking her seriously. She's actually brought up a couple good points, and being much more quiet and observant than I initially thought she would be.

I like Jeremy and I think he's playing a good game. I hope he becomes a traitor at some point.

[peachmangosteen]

13 hours ago, LeDucDiableBleu said:

Danielle is playing rather poorly as a traitor, imo. She's very "my way or the highway" in the turret which will come to bite her when there are new traitors because right now Bob is protecting her. She spoke too much and too loudly at breakfast. It was very dumb of her to gather the traitors (minus Carolyn) and meet in the hidden room at the same time. It would have been much better to casually say a few things to the traitors quietly in passing, and ask them for their ideas instead of steamrolling with her plan. Gathering together also caused problems with Carolyn by leaving her out, and she was walking around trying to find them to strategize. Not to mention the risk of everyone else wondering where they were, and possibly hearing them. Unless I missed a rule that they all had to be together to sign the scroll (which I might have).

You didn't miss a rule but I think it's very likely they were told by Production to convene together. Now, you'd think the others would wonder when Production comes to get certain people like that but perhaps they separate everyone and then get the Traitors together and then bring everyone back. The show is much more produced/scripted than they want to let on.

[Maya]

I think Carolyn was told where to find the other three as well. 

[AntFTW]

 

[MicheleinPhilly]

Oh my. 🤣

Ayan is absolutely stunning but she is...a lot. 

[jabRI]

They were told to convene together I remember that

[Quilt Fairy]

On 1/13/2025 at 6:39 PM, LeDucDiableBleu said:

I don't think Carolyn is a hot mess yet. I think she's trying really hard to make good moves, but none of the other traitors are taking her seriously. She's actually brought up a couple good points, and being much more quiet and observant than I initially thought she would be.

I don't have the encyclopedic recall of others when it comes to Survivor, but I remember thinking that Carolyn was a ditz at the beginning of her season but liking her quite a lot by the end of it.