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Bronwyn is the strangest mix of insecure, entitled, and self-important I have ever seen. It doesn’t make you ‘honest’ to insert yourself into every single conversation and announce what was said to or about each person. It just makes you an overstepping bitch who really likes the sound of her own voice.

Also, are these women 16 years old? I have never even heard the term ‘high body count’ before. Are they all just that emotionally and developmentally stunted from how they were raised?

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Meredith and her family were supposedly creating small batch bath products in their kitchen again....She doesn't slap her name on Alibaba products like Whitney.

Do all HWs have to spoil trips by fighting over rooms? It happened with the NYC HWs yesterday, as well. And a million times before. Does getting bitten by a dog warranty a room in Lisa's villa? Apparently not. 

Shampoogate is a thing. Angie was so inconsiderate to gift Meredith with shampoo and conditioner with sulfates!

And Vida tequila is served in Mexico because it's Lisa's trip (but Vida is made in that area in Mexico anyway like Lisa told us).

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1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Do all HWs have to spoil trips by fighting over rooms? It happened with the NYC HWs yesterday, as well. And a million times before. Does getting bitten by a dog warranty a room in Lisa's villa? Apparently not.

Poor Jeremiah Brent was just lamenting in his unpopular opinions on WWHL last night that his most hated thing is seeing the fights over rooms on the girls' trips. Andy of course seemed to disagree. Although it was shitty of Lisa to assign her supposed good friend with the two women she'd just had a falling out with. Why not put Heather with Whitney and Angie since she was bragging about being on good terms with everyone?

Brittani makes me cringe every time she opens her mouth. Such a whiny pick-me. Judging by everyone's reaction at the bar, I'm thinking she had never spoken about her estranged daughters to them before. After all, that would have taken time away from talking about alcohol and boys. Are we sure there's not some sort of 13 Going On 30 curse happening with her?

I continue to be irritated by the smugness of the Lisa/Meredith duo now that they're friends.

With all the rewind/fast-forward tricks the editors have loved to use this season, I'm surprised that Angie's request to be allowed to savor the certain-to-be-brief moment of a cease-fire with Meredith wasn't followed by a fast-forward to some more screaming matches and a "To Be Continued..."

Angie should try marketing a line of "Low Body Count" hair products. No more slutty bump-its!

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6 hours ago, dmeets said:

I'm thinking she had never spoken about her estranged daughters to them before.

That's what I thought too, like the HW's were all like "you have children?" That can be added to my astonishment that she had been married twice, so far.

When someone calls you a slut as a mature woman and not a high school situation would your first reaction be to call that person slut right back or would it be to just say, "yeah, I am a huge slut," and not give it any more time or attention? 

Those big shampoo bottles had to add a lot of weight to Meredith's luggage, like she was really pissed about getting them so she packed them and gave them back to Angie in Mexico...call me crazy but those are probably pricey so why wouldn't Meredith's daughter use them?  Also, if I had to listen to Meredith, Brooks and Sophia have a conversation I would take an ice pick to my ears, the nasal upspeak, whiney voices are horrible to listen to. 

Did anyone clock a bathtub in Meredith's room? For the love of all things holy I hope she has one because I don't think I could suffer thru another trip without one.

Bronwyn is like a dog with a bone with her arguing about which side of the hallway she is in, just enjoy the trip, it matters not which room you are in, Lisa is not far but now you have made it uncomfortable for everyone and I am sure Lisa is glad there is a little space between you now.

That poor waiter, he could barely get their drink orders.

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I do find it interesting that Bronwyn has been attacked by a dog, it looked nasty and painful, but it was just a footnote to the women, I know if it were Vicki she'd want a casserole and now I am inclined to send Bronwyn a casserole. I do wonder if the dog that attacked her was put down.

The idea that the group would have to be split into two groups the chances of bunking with people you have a problem with is pretty good since you are fighting with everyone but one person.

 

 

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12 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Meredith and her family were supposedly creating small batch bath products in their kitchen again....She doesn't slap her name on Alibaba products like Whitney.

 

I believe the bath bombs are a collaboration with Lush and so Meredith had probably been sent scent samples so she could select which odor she wanted.

Most perfumes - even with high profile celebrities - are done in this manner as the "celebrity" has the right to approve the odor and possibly the aesthetics of packaging but the actual manufacturing is done by the company. 

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I feel like production insisted they include Brittani more because otherwise,  they usually ignore her. As do I.  I enjoyed Whitney explaining how she doesn't even realize she's just a pawn. Britni thinks she's in the cool group now and immediately started gloating. Almost makes me preemptively feel sorry for her when she's inevitably ghosted again, if she weren't so try hard and annoying.  

The whole Marks family sounds like they're on benzos and have resting 'I smell shit' face.  already sick of hearing about the bat mitzvah. 

Those dog bites looked awful. That must have been horrifying. But Why do you want to be with Lisa when she's been awful to you since you got on the show?  Come on Brawny, you're smarter than that- for revenge, you buddy up to the other girls and stay up late in your villa getting lit and having the best time ever, laughing loudly, so Lisa can hear.  You know Meredith is boring, Britani is a blank page follower, an Heather will slip over to where the fun (camera) is- Let your hair down and make Lisa jealous. 

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2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I do find it interesting that Bronwyn has been attacked by a dog, it looked nasty and painful, but it was just a footnote to the women, I know if it were Vicki she'd want a casserole and now I am inclined to send Bronwyn a casserole. I do wonder if the dog that attacked her was put down.

Those were really serious and multiple bites. It had to be extremely scary when it happened, and would definitely leave me a little rattled for a while after. I can understand wanting to be coddled a bit. I do think she's overreacting to being in the separate villa, but i think the dog attack might explain some of it. 

I do think the dog probably had to be put down after an attack like that, and it's a shame when it was the owner's fault for not supervising their pet. What an asshole. 

I honestly feel for Mary, I truly do. But does no one see that Robert Jr's problems began around the same time it became headlines that his mother married his great grandfather? How did Mary think her son would never have any issues with his heritage, especially when it became so public? I sincerely hope he gets the help he needs and that whole family can heal. 

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I feel absolutely  horrified  for the staff when these women  show up,I do suspect  they've  been warned. Every time Brit says she has an announcement,  I cringe, but I also visualize  Mary rolling  her eyes. I knew nothing  about her children,  did the other women? 

Do the housewives bring a best friend onto the various shows, so they can dump them, or show them who's  really the boss( Tamra and Jen come to mind) now Bronwyn  and LIsa.

That's  a horrible  dog bite Bronwyn has, I suspect  she isn't feeling  a 100%, she knows full well, why Lisa put her in another villa. Speaking  of Lisa, in the outdoor  golf cart transporting  them, she asks for the AC, sheesh, diva much.

I knew they'd ruin PV, cheer up PV, they'll  be gone soon, but not before my Mary arrives. 

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8 hours ago, Pi237 said:

I feel like production insisted they include Brittani more because otherwise,  they usually ignore her. As do I.  I enjoyed Whitney explaining how she doesn't even realize she's just a pawn. Britni thinks she's in the cool group now and immediately started gloating. Almost makes me preemptively feel sorry for her when she's inevitably ghosted again, if she weren't so try hard and annoying.  

The whole Marks family sounds like they're on benzos and have resting 'I smell shit' face.  already sick of hearing about the bat mitzvah. 

Those dog bites looked awful. That must have been horrifying. But Why do you want to be with Lisa when she's been awful to you since you got on the show?  Come on Brawny, you're smarter than that- for revenge, you buddy up to the other girls and stay up late in your villa getting lit and having the best time ever, laughing loudly, so Lisa can hear.  You know Meredith is boring, Britani is a blank page follower, an Heather will slip over to where the fun (camera) is- Let your hair down and make Lisa jealous. 

In the after show, she said, "I take it back, Lisa," because she was able to grow closer to the women in her villa.

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I honestly feel for Mary, I truly do. But does no one see that Robert Jr's problems began around the same time it became headlines that his mother married his great grandfather? How did Mary think her son would never have any issues with his heritage, especially when it became so public? I sincerely hope he gets the help he needs and that whole family can heal. 

That's what I thought when he said he felt like a "stain." Poor thing.

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21 hours ago, dmeets said:

 it was shitty of Lisa to assign her supposed good friend with the two women she'd just had a falling out with. Why not put Heather with Whitney and Angie since she was bragging about being on good terms with everyone?

If Bronwyn had kept her ugly yap shut at the Bat Mitzvah then she and Angie wouldn't now need to be separated from Britney, so there's that.  When they were arguing about "who started it" - it was Bronwyn!  And she just sat there and then admitted in a TH that she was letting Britney take the fall because she doesn't like her.  IMO she needs an Erika Jayne necklace.  And next week she's going to tell the group, on tv, that her husband was unfaithful?  I hope she is expecting to get divorced.  Also, I laughed when Whitney was talking about having mostly coverups, as Bronwyn was standing there in basically a coverup that she had worn on the plane 🙄

Watching the Marks family (and Seth's Taint!) check out their bath products in the kitchen does not make me inclined to buy them.

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12 hours ago, amarante said:

I believe the bath bombs are a collaboration with Lush and so Meredith had probably been sent scent samples so she could select which odor she wanted.

Most perfumes - even with high profile celebrities - are done in this manner as the "celebrity" has the right to approve the odor and possibly the aesthetics of packaging but the actual manufacturing is done by the company. 

I don't doubt this is how it is done. I never thought the "celebrities" created the actual products. I was sarcastic. Meredith obviously wants to promote her line on the show. She does exactly what Whitney does. The only difference is that the company she cooperates with is a little better than Alibaba.

 

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There is a certain level of narcissism in wanting to be on tv, but Lisa is something else. Unfortunately, I don't even think she is aware of it. 

She might be angry about Bronwyn joining the HWs and upstaging her with her wealth and eccentric style.

Lisa and Meredith obviously think they are better than anybody else. 

I don't doubt Bronwyn felt sick because of the dog bites.

Britani is stupid, and she bragged on tv she was dating three guys at the same time (or ten another time). 

Everybody was rolling their eyes when Britani said she was not sleeping with her boyfriend.

Heather needs to lay off the cheek fillers. 

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Someone needs to come in and shame these ladies. And I am not talking about slut shaming which is a very real and serious problem at bat mitzvahs. 
There are housewives who have to share a room. There are housewives who get stuck with a tiny room  and have to threaten to go to a hotel. There are housewives who have their suitcase hidden and nobody cares. These ladies were blessed with not one but two villas and they are still complaining. Shame on them!

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1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

Someone needs to come in and shame these ladies. And I am not talking about slut shaming which is a very real and serious problem at bat mitzvahs. 
There are housewives who have to share a room. There are housewives who get stuck with a tiny room  and have to threaten to go to a hotel. There are housewives who have their suitcase hidden and nobody cares. These ladies were blessed with not one but two villas and they are still complaining. Shame on them!

I’m not sure if you meant it this way, but I was reading your post like a dramatic ASPCA abused, neglected pet commercial with the sad Sarah McGlochlin music playing: Slut shaming is a very real and serious problem at Bat Mitzvahs. There are Housewives who have to share a room…. Won’t you donate today to save a Housewife from the neglect of sleeping in the tiny room of a $10 million mansion for 2 nights?

Sad Dog GIF

 

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7 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I don't doubt this is how it is done. I never thought the "celebrities" created the actual products. I was sarcastic. Meredith obviously wants to promote her line on the show. She does exactly what Whitney does. The only difference is that the company she cooperates with is a little better than Alibaba.

 

I don't know exactly what jewelry Whitney is selling. I don't buy anything touted by a celebrity and actively avoid it if it popped up when I was buying a product. 

However, some of the housewives like Sherree from Atlanta literally purchase items from Alibaba and then resell them for extremely high markups. My understanding is that is what Whitney is doing or accused of doing - purchasing cheap costume jewelry and then selling it for a large amount of money. 

That is a completely different business model that entering into a distribution agreement with an existing company who markets your product in the same way and at essentially the same price as their other products. Meredith is not buying $1 bath bombs and sticking a label on them and selling them for $50

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I really don’t think we have given enough attention to how horrible Bronwyn is 🤣. She is truly one of the worst (which in turn is often viewed as the best) housewives out there. Damn, her level of stirring shit, blatantly, is unmatched. Her talking and talking and repeating and repeating of her grievance de jour, without ever truly articulating what the actual grievance is, is amazing. And her refusal to accept an apology without changing the goal posts, often mid-apology, is beyond compare.  In record time she has changed my thinking about Todd from a cranky, dour dude to wondering if I should call the authorities to do a welfare check on him due to living with an extreme narcissist gaslighter. 
 

Now on to Britini……….

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3 hours ago, amarante said:

I don't know exactly what jewelry Whitney is selling. I don't buy anything touted by a celebrity and actively avoid it if it popped up when I was buying a product. 

However, some of the housewives like Sherree from Atlanta literally purchase items from Alibaba and then resell them for extremely high markups. My understanding is that is what Whitney is doing or accused of doing - purchasing cheap costume jewelry and then selling it for a large amount of money. 

That is a completely different business model that entering into a distribution agreement with an existing company who markets your product in the same way and at essentially the same price as their other products. Meredith is not buying $1 bath bombs and sticking a label on them and selling them for $50

Meredith is partnering with respectable companies. I don't have an issue with her. Her other businesses are legitimate- her jewelry line for example. I checked her resume (I posted about it in the past), and not only she has a graduate business degree, and a law degree (she never practiced law), she studied at the Gemological Institute of America, and designs her own jewelry. Sheree Whitfield, and Whitney put their name on Alibaba products, and charge huge amounts for them. There is no wonder Meredith mentioned the Alibaba connection.

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2 hours ago, Juneau Gal said:

I really don’t think we have given enough attention to how horrible Bronwyn is 🤣.

Truly! I think she's going to be one of those housewives who comes in mouthy and develops an initial favorable following based upon her taking on the old guard right out of the gate, but then, like a sparkler, fizzles out fast when she starts revealing who she is.

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21 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

I have moments when I find Bronwyn annoying but I prefer her over Monica and Jen Shah. 

I can't stand her, and I still find her better than those two! 😂

And I think that new ladies who come on as someone's friend probably bugged that HW about getting on the show, and then the HW does her the favor, and then when they come on the show they start acting obnoxious and the original HW gets annoyed.  That's my theory.

But as a viewer I dislike her and don't mind her being around (kind of like LVP or Dorit from BH.  Or Heather from here.). But Mary can go to jail whenever, please.

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13 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Britani said on an earlier episode that her daughters don't talk to her because she always puts guys before them. 

I can believe it. She appears to have codependency issues. 

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Brittani makes me cringe every time she opens her mouth. Such a whiny pick-me. Judging by everyone's reaction at the bar, I'm thinking she had never spoken about her estranged daughters to them before. After all, that would have taken time away from talking about alcohol and boys. Are wesure there's not some sort of 13 Going On 30 curse happening with her?

It landed with a thud. These women don’t seem to like or care about Brittani. It’s as if they know she’s a one and done HW wannabe. 

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Also, if I had to listen to Meredith, Brooks and Sophia have a conversation I would take an ice pick to my ears, the nasal upspeak, whiney voices are horrible to listen to

I don’t like hearing then talk either, but I don’t hear nasal and upspeak (although I do hear upspeak from Whitney). I hear this:

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The whole Marks family sounds like they're on benzos 

Especially Meredith. She’s sounded drugged to me for 2-3 seasons. 

I am a big dog lover. I have three. Bronwyn’s bites looked horrific. I would’ve been traumatized. The women did seem to not give it much attention. Different show but as a comparison, look how the women on RHOC coddled Shannon when she was constipated. 

I don’t mind Bronwyn. She has her issues, but I find her watchable for the most part. 

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15 hours ago, ZettaK said:

There is a certain level of narcissism in wanting to be on tv, but Lisa is something else. Unfortunately, I don't even think she is aware of it. 

Yes she is full of herself. The “I can’t fly in coach” stuff reinforced it for me. Her husband must really love her, and he is a patient guy. She would drive me crazy. 

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On 12/12/2024 at 3:06 PM, lasu said:

I do think the dog probably had to be put down after an attack like that, and it's a shame when it was the owner's fault for not supervising their pet. What an asshole. 

Quoting myself!!

The dog that attacked Bronwyn was a foster dog who had medical issues that may have contributed to the attack, in addition to being left unsupervised. Bronwyn and Todd paid for the dog's medical expenses and made sure he was placed in a better, more appropriate home. 

That shows real compassion towards the animal, and is a big gold star for both of them, as far as I'm concerned. I'm very glad the dog was given another opportunity. 

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19 hours ago, princelina said:

If Bronwyn had kept her ugly yap shut at the Bat Mitzvah then she and Angie wouldn't now need to be separated from Britney, so there's that.  When they were arguing about "who started it" - it was Bronwyn!  And she just sat there and then admitted in a TH that she was letting Britney take the fall because she doesn't like her. 

I wanted to repeat this.  YES!  She is a shit stirrer.

I'm sorry she had the dog bites; I wonder why she felt she had to go on the trip.  I am guess it is hot and humid and she can't get in the water (shudder thinking about that).  She should have stayed home.

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1 hour ago, lasu said:

Quoting myself!!

The dog that attacked Bronwyn was a foster dog who had medical issues that may have contributed to the attack, in addition to being left unsupervised. Bronwyn and Todd paid for the dog's medical expenses and made sure he was placed in a better, more appropriate home. 

That shows real compassion towards the animal, and is a big gold star for both of them, as far as I'm concerned. I'm very glad the dog was given another opportunity. 

I'm glad to hear this.

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4 hours ago, lasu said:

Quoting myself!!

The dog that attacked Bronwyn was a foster dog who had medical issues that may have contributed to the attack, in addition to being left unsupervised. Bronwyn and Todd paid for the dog's medical expenses and made sure he was placed in a better, more appropriate home. 

That shows real compassion towards the animal, and is a big gold star for both of them, as far as I'm concerned. I'm very glad the dog was given another opportunity. 

That is wonderful  to read, thankyou for posting this. Thank you Bronwyn and Todd.

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23 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I have moments when I find Bronwyn annoying but I prefer her over Monica and Jen Shah. 

Bronwyn is what I consider to be the perfect housewife.

She has an aspirational lifestyle so I get to enjoy watching her in fantastic clothing.

Her life has enough issues both minor (dog poop all over) and major (out of wedlock child with horrible issues with dead bio father's family). Possible marriage issues but interesting dynamic whatever it is.

Also Bronwyn is smart and sophisticated and so I find her amusing. 

And she is messy but so far not in a truly toxic way.

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15 hours ago, amarante said:

Bronwyn is what I consider to be the perfect housewife.

She has an aspirational lifestyle so I get to enjoy watching her in fantastic clothing.

Her life has enough issues both minor (dog poop all over) and major (out of wedlock child with horrible issues with dead bio father's family). Possible marriage issues but interesting dynamic whatever it is.

Also Bronwyn is smart and sophisticated and so I find her amusing. 

And she is messy but so far not in a truly toxic way.

Yes, I find her amusing. She’s also self deprecating at times. Her dynamic with Todd is interesting although cringeworthy too. 
Recently I caught some older seasons with Jen Shah and her over the top fake fraudulent lifestyle and screaming and later Monica and her mom with their ridiculous behavior and I think Bronwyn is a much better housewife. 

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7 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Yes, I find her amusing. She’s also self deprecating at times. Her dynamic with Todd is interesting although cringeworthy too. 
Recently I caught some older seasons with Jen Shah and her over the top fake fraudulent lifestyle and screaming and later Monica and her mom with their ridiculous behavior and I think Bronwyn is a much better housewife. 

Agree, Bronwyn is a much more decent person than either Jen or Monica. 

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1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

Agree, Bronwyn is a much more decent person than either Jen or Monica. 

That is a low bar indeed since these are two of the most awful housewives from any franchise.

Even before Jen was exposed as someone who preyed on elderly people she was just awful and mean and unhinged - and not in a good way. I never got "normal" vibes from her in terms of her finances because her lifestyle so obviously could not possibly be supported by whatever she was theoretically working at.

And Monica also was painful to view on the screen. I try to forget the toxic relationship with her mother which we were shown on camera. Also I don't want a housewife who is not even "middle class" but so obviously attempting to "front" by using a car leased by her mother FFS. 

 

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On 12/11/2024 at 9:58 PM, ZettaK said:

Meredith and her family were supposedly creating small batch bath products in their kitchen again....She doesn't slap her name on Alibaba products like Whitney.

Do all HWs have to spoil trips by fighting over rooms? It happened with the NYC HWs yesterday, as well. And a million times before. Does getting bitten by a dog warranty a room in Lisa's villa? Apparently not. 

Shampoogate is a thing. Angie was so inconsiderate to gift Meredith with shampoo and conditioner with sulfates!

And Vida tequila is served in Mexico because it's Lisa's trip (but Vida is made in that area in Mexico anyway like Lisa told us).

This is what's so awesome to me about these women. Imagine the magical life Meredith lives, to have so little bad in it that you can be* seriously offended by an ingredient in a gift someone gave you. I noted they were the jumbo size, also!

I'm awestruck

*Or pretend to be

 

On 12/12/2024 at 6:08 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

It's funny because it's true.

Aww I have to quality this. I love Modigliani, and I think Angie is beautiful. 

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