S5.E10: Kiss Kiss, Bangs Bangs

[ZettaK]

An Audrey Hepburn-inspired brunch; Mary and Meredith's friendship lands in a rocky place; Heather has resentment over Palm Springs; Todd is disappointed in Bronwyn's behaviour; Angie makes an emotional confession to her dad.

First aired on 11/20/2024.

[Stats Queen]

We’re at another Kimosabe - do they have a partnership with Bravo?

So Lisa and Mary both wore the same horrendous outfit and are mad at each other. They should be mad at themselves. How much did they spend? 

[Straycat80]

Um, Todd, grumpy old man, your wife joined a reality TV show, it’s probably in her Bravo contract to yell and scream at bitches in a hot tub.  

[Stats Queen]

Heather has outlived her usefulness and got way too full of herself.

She is not all that and a bag of chips.

Poor, poor, Lisa stuck in 17C on a short flight home. OMG

Lisa and Heather just suck.

Heather actually thinks it is her show. Yet another housewife who I love initially who go so full of herself that she became a fricking nightmare.

And her is Britani trying to get a moment.

Bronwyn (sp?) is the future - 

[Straycat80]

I don’t like Bronwyn but that was brutal the way Heather dragged her. I’m glad they called Britani out for being a hypocrite. She can leeeeave. 
I loved all the bangs jokes. Are fake bangs a thing now? 

Edited November 21 by Straycat80

[Pi237]

"Its Audrey Hepburn, not the Flintstones. "

Only time Mary made me laugh outloud. 

Brittani is so tryhard and embarrassing.  Terrible actress. She needs to go. They don't even take her seriously and I don't blame them. 

[ZettaK]

Brooks, Meredith Marks' "child" is 25. 

Edited November 21 by ZettaK

[Marley]

Yikes Todd lecturing & talking to Bronwyn like she’s his child he is grounding is embarrassing. Does Todd even like Bronwyn?

Heather is playing the Bronwyn situation all wrong. She’s acting way too full of herself. She seemed to turn it around a bit at the end tho.

What was Lisa wearing at Mary’s brunch. It seems like she missed the theme.

Ugh Britani. I was not missing her on the show. She’s such an annoying try hard.

Yes to Angie calling stupid Britani out. Just put the bottle of wine away don’t bring it in front of your church group then. Brian’s is so annoying & stupid.

Jared messaging Mary is weird.

Oh god Britani interrupting again. Something is off about her. She has some personality disorder.

Meredith & the Brooks shit is such a crock of shit. Nobody said anything bad about stupid Brooks. Meredith is crazy & did everything Angie & Shawn said.

I actually liked Whitney during Mary’s brunch.

Oh god bye Meredith with her fake victim act.

Damn that Flinstones burn about Meredith at the end lol.

Edited November 21 by Marley

[ZettaK]

I can't believe Heather said that they had to "teach" Bronwyn about, I assume showing respect to the OGs of the group. She is deluding herself if she thinks the women love her just because they are OGs, and that she is the star of the show. She is like Vicki Gunvalson of the Orange County HWs, she said she doesn't like/is cautious about new people coming in the group.

Todd admonished his daughter (sorry, his wife) in public one more time. Is it possible he didn't know what the HWs were about? Did Bronwyn fib about it, and of course he would never check/watch the show?

Angie said Abraham Lincoln had plates with the Greek key on, like the Versace plates (Versace used, and his fashion house still does Greek motifs like the Greek key and the Medusa head), not that Lincoln owned Versace plates.....

Some women followed the Breakfast At Tiffany's theme, and some didn't. Lisa was wearing Tiffany blue, but her outfit was not appropriate for the theme. Heather's was a miss, as well (she seems to love this sweater). Britani didn't do that great either. 

Meredith, Angie, Bronwyn, Mary, and even Whitney followed the theme. 

The pettiness about who first saw the Fendi outfit (Lisa or Mary), and again the first class tickets was entertaining. 

Poor Britani is an outsider. She is also a hypocrite because she drinks on tv (and gets drunk) although she is a Mormon, but she was offended Angie brought wine to her house as a gift (although Angie probably shouldn't do it).

Meredith always walks out when she doesn't like a conversation.

That dog Jared is always playing Britani, this time by sending DMs to Mary, of all people! This is humiliating. 

What happened to Meili who filmed as a HW contender, but she is not even shown enough as a friend?

Edited November 21 by ZettaK

[funnygirl]

Heather is insufferable.

[dancingdreamer]

I knew Heather  didn't  care for Bronwyn,  she can use her words Heather,  just like you do, only better. I really  like Browyn, I thought  her hair looked  cute. Meredith's  otoh , looked like she was part of the Adam's family.  

Mary put on quite the spread, that lovely  Tiffany  blue. Well, not so lovely  on Lisa, she looked like she was going  to jump out of a plane. Britni  is such a ding dong, honestly,  the lights are on but nobody's  home. The row about the bottle  of wine was so stupid, I loved when Mary told her she had the floor. I can't  stand them shouting  over one another, I can't  make out what they are saying. Omg, I sound like Todd.

I'm happy  Bronwyn  is on the show,and I like the new Mary.

Edited November 21 by dancingdreamer

[dmeets]

OMG Britani. “This is bullshit, WHAT ABOUT MEEEEE???” Loved the faces everyone pulled right after that hissy fit. Sorry Friend, you’re going to have to sit and let the full time cast members have their moments. I wish she’d have been the friend of to fade off the show instead of Meili.

Heather’s ego is out of control.  Congrats, everyone loved the line “Receipts! Proof! Timelines! Screenshots!” Doesn’t make you the queen of the show now. The comparison to Vicki the cancer scammer is right on, both of them seem to think it’s their duty to haze the newbies.
The “OG” trio all seem to have severe listening comprehension issues. Heather wouldn’t listen to what Bronwyn was actually saying and is completely making up that Bronwyn intentionally excluded her, Lisa totally misconstrued Angie’s remarks about the plane seats (possibly misheard or maybe just lying to just stir up shit), and Meredith only heard half of what Mary said  (so much for those hearing aids). Plus all three of them thought Angie was saying that Gianni Versace was commissioned to design Abraham Lincoln’s plates.

I hate the notion that Heather might feel vindicated in dismissing Todd considering what an asshole he is. He pretty much told Bronwyn right in front of the cameras that she needs to quit the show right now.

Edited November 21 by dmeets

[Palimelon]

Quote

And her is Britani trying to get a moment.

I keep forgetting she is on the show.

[Chatty Cake]

Team Heather! Screw Bronwyn for excluding the single women. Her act as Mrs Moneybags is a joke because she’s not an equal in her marriage. She’s the child to an asshole. Good for Heather for dragging her. She even apologized and told the little girl she’d do the clean slate with her.

Meredith’s bangs were ass ugly but Bronwyns were too. 
Meredith would be better off just apologizing to Angie and Sean instead of her outrage on behalf of Brooks.

 

[heatherchandler]

8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Brooks, Meredith Marks' "child" is 25. 

“My TODDLER Brooks…”  The WWC podcast guys always joke about this.

[Straycat80]

It’s pathetic how bad Jared and Britani want to be more than ‘friends of’ on this show. Britani showing up late for the lunch and then yelling ‘what about meee’! It was funny that everyone ignored her basically. And Jared texting Mary. Just make these two leeeeave! 

[politichick]

Watching now. Heather is such a tacky cow and she and her outfit totally suck. I love how Mary ignored her stupid Palm Springs comment and thanked Meredith for the caviar. And why is she so bothered that Bronwyn doesn't have a prenup? What an asshole. Also, Mary was invited but chose to stay at home to monitor her son. If Heather didn't want to be left out, she should have fucking apologized when she was at Bronwyn's house

Brittani is an idiot. Does she think people won't see her on TV drinking? "What about me!!!!!"????????? What a ****.

These women are horrible, except Bronwyn and Angie. Mary invites them to this fabulous luncheon and that's how they behave?

Lisa so does look like she jumped out of plane as someone here has noted. What a hideous outfit. Heather's outfit also was bad. Didn't love Bronwyn's dress, but she looked elegant. Meredith's bangs were very bad. Very Flinstones, indeed, lol.

Whitney is another idiot. Why did she grab the phone?

 

[Pi237]

The awkwardness of Brawnwyn being the first to arrive and no host in the room went on too long. I like her in the bangs tho. They suit her. But wow she was mean about Meredith in her telling head. Her snootiness gives me RHOC Heather vibes. 

Heather continues to have delusions of grandeur. “It’s ok, I’ll teach her” right-then you folded and apologized and admitted you were a bitch because your fee-fees were hurt. She can’t be Queen Bee no matter how bad she wants it. She’s witty in her talking heads, but in person she just doesn’t have the right stuff for the job.  She tries, but just comes off like a child throwing a little fit. I used to like her a lot, but she’s gotten so full of herself while somehow becoming even more insecure.

Maybe I’m just a Poor, but I thought Mary’s party with the attendants and red carpet, etc was really pompous and tacky-But I always feel that way about Versace’s designs, so….

Edited November 21 by Pi237

[Pi237]

Meredith don’t like people playing on her phone…tm Chappelle

[Arynm]

"because it's my goddamn credit card" is the best thing I have ever heard on this show.

Sorry Heather, the person paying can sit where she wants, and there were not enough first class seats for everyone, so they can sit in the back for 67 minutes.

I love first class and fly it all the time, but for a short flight, I will put my big girl pants on and sit in coach.

Heather came off looking terrible and she lost this fight. Bronwyn ate her up. Heather had no choice but to make peace. I like Heather but this is not her season.

Britini is trying so hard, bless her, but it's a lost cause. She is a one and done.

Meredith's hair was a fail and she is wrong in the fight as well. Crying is not going to help her. She has burned that bridge with Mary and it won't be fixed. Mary does not forgive. Meredith is forgetting that she called Angie's husband gay first, so I am not pressed if Shawn lightly talked about Brooks who is a grown ass adult!

[Yours Truly]

17 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Um, Todd, grumpy old man, your wife joined a reality TV show, it’s probably in her Bravo contract to yell and scream at bitches in a hot tub.  

Doesn't mean he can't speak on how it's not something he's happy about. Just because "it's in the contract" doesn't make it something people have to silently tolerate. Me thinks he wasn't too keen on her accepting the gig in the first place.

Also, if this is supposed to be reality tv then seeing his genuine disapproval over the nonsense fits right in. Just sayin'

Edited November 21 by Yours Truly

[Chatty Cake]

What I’ve always liked about Heather was that she could hang out with anyone and have a good time. Yes she could have apologized to Bronwyn and been invited on the trip but the fight was stupid to begin with. Heather has always done some trash talking but so have all the others. Bronwyn acting like Heather did something so bad that she couldn’t attend the trip was absolute bullshit. 
As far as Bronwyn having a prenup that is nobody’s business. Do I think Bronwyn is most likely grossed out having sex with Todd?  Yes but it’s not something that should be spoken of during Marys party. It’s fine for the ladies to joke about it behind her back though. He behaved like a pompous asshole on the trip. Of course they are going to gossip about him.

Edited November 21 by Chatty Cake

[SweetieDarling]

IIRC Meredith never revealed the rumor she heard about Shawn. Monica was the one who said the rumor around town was that he's gay.

Monica set Meredith up twice: the gay rumor and the Greek mafia rumor

 

[SweetieDarling]

I was waiting for Meredith to announce that she was disengaging. Bravo must have told her she can't do that; if she wants to disengage, she needs to storm off like every other Bravo housewife

[Natalie68]

16 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I can't believe Heather said that they had to "teach" Bronwyn about, I assume showing respect to the OGs of the group. She is deluding herself if she thinks the women love her just because they are OGs, and that she is the star of the show. She is like Vicki Gunvalson of the Orange County HWs, she said she doesn't like/is cautious about new people coming in the group.

Todd admonished his daughter (sorry, his wife) in public one more time. Is it possible he didn't know what the HWs were about? Did Bronwyn fib about it, and of course he would never check/watch the show?

Angie said Abraham Lincoln had plates with the Greek key on, like the Versace plates (Versace used, and his fashion house still does Greek motifs like the Greek key and the Medusa head), not that Lincoln owned Versace plates.....

Some women followed the Breakfast At Tiffany's theme, and some didn't. Lisa was wearing Tiffany blue, but her outfit was not appropriate for the theme. Heather's was a miss, as well (she seems to love this sweater). Britani didn't do that great either. 

Meredith, Angie, Bronwyn, Mary, and even Whitney followed the theme. 

The pettiness about who first saw the Fendi outfit (Lisa or Mary), and again the first class tickets was entertaining. 

Poor Britani is an outsider. She is also a hypocrite because she drinks on tv (and gets drunk) although she is a Mormon, but she was offended Angie brought wine to her house as a gift (although Angie probably shouldn't do it).

Meredith always walks out when she doesn't like a conversation.

That dog Jared is always playing Britani, this time by sending DMs to Mary, of all people! This is humiliating. 

What happened to Meili who filmed as a HW contender, but she is not even shown enough as a friend?

Heather really has an out of bounds ego doesn't she?  The 'nice' Heather season 1 seems to have been an act.  As much as Vicki bugs me, Heather is no OG.  This is what, season 5? Bitch please.           

What happened to Mary? I can tolerate her this season.                                 

[ZettaK]

31 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

IIRC Meredith never revealed the rumor she heard about Shawn. Monica was the one who said the rumor around town was that he's gay.

Monica set Meredith up twice: the gay rumor and the Greek mafia rumor

 

Meredith only said "the rumors about the huzzband" on tv (or at least that's what Bravo showed), and Monica mentioned the specific rumors later on, but Meredith showed her DMs she was sent on social media about Angie, and Shawn first. All the women said they knew about the rumors because they were old (like Whitney and Heather who discussed them in detail), and then Monica supposedly received the same DMs. Meredith and Monica were friends (or reality show friends, and allies) that season. Meredith is famous for using other people as her mouthpiece, so she can avoid the consequences of her own actions. She started it all by mentioning the rumors about the husband. 

[65mickey]

I don't care for Todd or Bronwyn. He is an unpleasant man who treats his wife like a spoiled child. There is something about Bronwyn that bugs me. She seems so affected.  I don't know if it is her makeup but she she has an old face.  I hope Todd puts his foot down and she in gone after this season.

[ichbin]

39 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I don't care for Todd or Bronwyn. He is an unpleasant man who treats his wife like a spoiled child. There is something about Bronwyn that bugs me. She seems so affected.  I don't know if it is her makeup but she she has an old face.  I hope Todd puts his foot down and she in go

I disagree.  A spoiled child is usually treated like they do no wrong even if the truth is otherwise.  From what we were shown he treated her like a possession, not like a partner.  To me it looks like she is there to compliment him, make him look good. The fact that he chose to berate her as he did on camera is very telling.  He did treat her like a child, but not one he respects as a person. Most  May-December unions I've seen generally have a significant transactional element and generally come at a price.

[ichbin]

16 hours ago, dmeets said:

OMG Britani. “This is bullshit, WHAT ABOUT MEEEEE???”

This woman has consistently been cringeworthy since she started to appear this season. 

 

 

16 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

I'm happy  Bronwyn  is on the show,and I like the new Mary.

I for one am not about to forget the original Mary who at best was merely an asshole. I don't know what is behind her newfound ability to join in this season but I'm guessing there is some reason for it.  

[politichick]

5 minutes ago, ichbin said:

I disagree.  A spoiled child is usually treated like they do no wrong even if the truth is otherwise.  From what we were shown he treated her like a possession, not like a partner.  To me it looks like she is there to compliment him, make him look good. The fact that he chose to berate her as he did on camera is very telling.  He did treat her like a child, but not one he respects as a person. Most  May-December unions I've seen generally have a significant transactional element and generally come at a price.

He did not berate her. He calmly expressed his disappointment in her behavior and what went on during a trip that they paid for. Should he lie to her or encourage her to behave like some of the other women? I appreciate his honesty and he's not the one who put them on TV.

Would people say this if they were closer in age?

[dancingdreamer]

29 minutes ago, ichbin said:

This woman has consistently been cringeworthy since she started to appear this season. 

 

 

I for one am not about to forget the original Mary who at best was merely an asshole. I don't know what is behind her newfound ability to join in this season but I'm guessing there is some reason for it.  

Didn't  she end her awful marriage,  that would make anyone  happier. We all like different  people. 

[snarts]

I love that someone finally stuck a pin in Heather's overly inflated ego!! She'd really annointed herself queen & purposely stirred up.conflict so she was always the central friend. Bronwyn's explanation of her constantly moving goals posts in arguments was completely spot on. I literally clapped watching Heather finally back down when her usual tricks didn't work. 

Britini may be the dumbest (friend of).housewife ever. Umm, you're drinking on camera, they're gonna know. 

Finally, Whitney's impression of Meredith & her bangs may have made me pee a little I laughed so damn hard. 

[BloggerAloud]

22 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Um, Todd, grumpy old man, your wife joined a reality TV show, it’s probably in her Bravo contract to yell and scream at bitches in a hot tub.  

Yeah, he doesn't seem to know what show he's on. Which is weird that he wouldn't have at least watched a highlight reel given how controlling he seems to be.

Some of this feels like the old thing where men would encourage their wives to go on Housewives to make a living as a way to exit the marriage.

[howiveaddict]

Someone should have come as Holly Golightly wearing the mens shirt without pants, messy updo and sleeping mask as she opened the door.  She had only a towel on first, though.

Wonder if Lisa never heard of Breakfast at Tiffany's.  That Tiffany blue suit was fugly.  LOL at all who made fun of Meredith's bangs.  Flintstones indeed.

[RedInk]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I don't care for Todd or Bronwyn. He is an unpleasant man who treats his wife like a spoiled child. There is something about Bronwyn that bugs me. She seems so affected.  I don't know if it is her makeup but she she has an old face.  I hope Todd puts his foot down and she in gone after this season.

She’s done with him. Pretty sure this martyred wife act is step one for her to gain some financial footing and get sympathy at the same time. 

[ichbin]

46 minutes ago, dancingdreamer said:

Didn't  she end her awful marriage,  that would make anyone  happier. We all like different  people. 

I believe she is still married. She did have a first marriage that ended in divorce, but that was a long time ago.

[BloggerAloud]

Is this Holly Golightly/Audrey Hepburn theme supposed to be a Big Little Lies reference as well, given how all the women meeting on the beach before confronting Monica felt very Big Little Lies coded?

[njbchlover]

4 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Heather really has an out of bounds ego doesn't she?  The 'nice' Heather season 1 seems to have been an act.  As much as Vicki bugs me, Heather is no OG.  This is what, season 5? Bitch please.           

What happened to Mary? I can tolerate her this season.                                 

I was just thinking "What kind of upside down world are we living in?" because I am actually not minding Mary at all this season, and actually, she is making a lot more sense (most of the time) and acting a lot more maturely than most of these other women!!  

I'm also happy to see that she finally got rid of the hideous Emerald green* carpet in her house and did some other updates, too.  

*Although, with all the advertising for the Wicked movie and merchandise tie-ins, I'm sure we will be seeing "Emerald City Green" showing up in home design styles soon, so maybe Mary made a mistake!  🤣

 

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I don't care for Todd or Bronwyn. He is an unpleasant man who treats his wife like a spoiled child. There is something about Bronwyn that bugs me. She seems so affected.  I don't know if it is her makeup but she she has an old face.  I hope Todd puts his foot down and she in gone after this season.

You answered your own thought - Bronwyn IS a spoiled child.  Anyone who can casually receive a $4,000,000.00 necklace the way she did is spoiled and affected.

I think that Bronwyn puts up with Todd because he does spoil her (and her daughter), and she loves the lifestyle.  Women have put up with more for a lot less.

To me, Bronwyn seems very, very camera-savvy already, and very comfortable while filming.  Usually, in their freshman season, housewives have a certain level of awkwardness (or, as in Britani's case, a whole lot of awkwardness) and make some gaffes or something.  Bronwyn, so far, is hitting it out of the park in terms of performance in front of the cameras.

I will say, though, that she's a striking woman and she looked adorable in those Audrey Hepburn clip-on bangs and short ponytail.  I would have loved to have seen Bronwyn in that hairstyle with a pair of sleek ankle pants, a white man tailored shirt, trench coat and black ballet flats - she would have looked amazing in that classic AH look.

[SemiCharmedLife]

19 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Team Heather! Screw Bronwyn for excluding the single women. Her act as Mrs Moneybags is a joke because she’s not an equal in her marriage. She’s the child to an asshole. Good for Heather for dragging her. She even apologized and told the little girl she’d do the clean slate with her.

Meredith’s bangs were ass ugly but Bronwyns were too. 
Meredith would be better off just apologizing to Angie and Sean instead of her outrage on behalf of Brooks.

 

I got a different slant on why Heather was not invited on the trip.  Bronwyn knew they were having difficulties and invited Heather over so they could discuss everything before the trip.  This was Bronwyn's anniversary trip and she didn't want it to be tense.  She started out with an apology to Heather and was hoping that her olive branch would be accepted.  Heather took everything the wrong way and left in a huff.  At that point, Bronwyn decided not to include Heather on the trip.  I think that makes perfect sense.  

Mary declined the invitation and Bronwyn decided not to include Brittani due to the things she said about her marriage.  

I also want to defend Bronwyn's Audrey Hepburn look.  I thought it was very pretty and the bangs were perfect.  She looked great, in my opinion.

[ZettaK]

15 hours ago, ichbin said:

I believe she is still married. She did have a first marriage that ended in divorce, but that was a long time ago.

Britani was married from 2016 to 2023 (second marriage). The ex spouses are suing each other now. 

https://realityblurb.com/2024/10/15/rhoslc-star-britani-bateman-accused-ex-husband-of-unreasonable-sex-demands-is-2-5-million-lawsuit-against-plus-she-alleges-several-forms-of-abuse/

Edited November 22 by ZettaK

[Chatty Cake]

4 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I got a different slant on why Heather was not invited on the trip.  Bronwyn knew they were having difficulties and invited Heather over so they could discuss everything before the trip.  This was Bronwyn's anniversary trip and she didn't want it to be tense.  She started out with an apology to Heather and was hoping that her olive branch would be accepted.  Heather took everything the wrong way and left in a huff.  At that point, Bronwyn decided not to include Heather on the trip.  I think that makes perfect sense.  

Mary declined the invitation and Bronwyn decided not to include Brittani due to the things she said about her marriage.  

I also want to defend Bronwyn's Audrey Hepburn look.  I thought it was very pretty and the bangs were perfect.  She looked great, in my opinion.

If Bronwyn didn’t want a tense anniversary trip, she should have left her husband at home. 

[b2H]

15 hours ago, Yours Truly said:

Doesn't mean he can't speak on how it's not something he's happy about. Just because "it's in the contract" doesn't make it something people have to silently tolerate. Me thinks he wasn't too keen on her accepting the gig in the first place.

Also, if this is supposed to be reality tv then seeing his genuine disapproval over the nonsense fits right in. Just sayin'

I am left feeling Bronwyn will not return next season.  She simply doesn’t fit in and shouldn’t want to.

10 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

Someone should have come as Holly Golightly wearing the mens shirt without pants, messy updo and sleeping mask as she opened the door.  She had only a towel on first, though.

Wonder if Lisa never heard of Breakfast at Tiffany's.  That Tiffany blue suit was fugly.  LOL at all who made fun of Meredith's bangs.  Flintstones indeed.

Lisa rarely participates in these costume events if they don’t flatter her and let Lisa be Lisa.  She is not interested in making believe she is someone else because she believes herself to be too fabulous.

Edited November 22 by b2H

[65mickey]

3 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

If Bronwyn didn’t want a tense anniversary trip, she should have left her husband at home. 

Or gone on the trip with her husband and not the other women.  She  knew damn good and well how these women act when in a group. And she has been with her husband long enough to know how he would react to the fighting and screaming. She wanted to show what a fabulous life she has. Instead she showed us a glimpse into her marriage. 

[TattleTeeny]

So, was Meredith wearing fake bangs, or did she make a poof with her ponytail with the ends facing forward to serve as bangs? After I got past my initial horror, I thought it was the latter.

I could not believe Britani with her "What about me?!" I actually thought she was making a joke at first. 

Edited November 22 by TattleTeeny

[sugarbaker design]

3 hours ago, b2H said:

I am left feeling Bronwyn will not return next season.  She simply doesn’t fit in and shouldn’t want to.

From your post to God's ears.  I never want to see again an old billionaire castigate his adult wife like an 8-year old again.  I lost all respect for Bronwyn after that embarrassing exchange.

[BloggerAloud]

I highly doubt that Bronwyn would leave after arguably a big breakout star this year. "Because it was my goddamn credit card" is going to be her "Receipts! Proof! Timeline! Screnshots!"

[Yours Truly]

16 hours ago, ichbin said:

I disagree.  A spoiled child is usually treated like they do no wrong even if the truth is otherwise.  From what we were shown he treated her like a possession, not like a partner.  To me it looks like she is there to compliment him, make him look good. The fact that he chose to berate her as he did on camera is very telling.  He did treat her like a child, but not one he respects as a person. Most  May-December unions I've seen generally have a significant transactional element and generally come at a price.

I mean most adults are able to determine whether or not said transaction is worth that price. I'm in the camp that Browynn picked what she wanted out of life and so did Todd. I'm not interested in seeing people pretend. I also don't expect people to always put their best foot forward at all times. Honestly, I don't mind seeing people lose their cool or act out when circumstances are unpleasant. I like seeing the human factor of things. 

People get salty and behave badly and I for one love normalizing imperfection. I know I've lost my cool on occasion and spoken harshly to people I care about from time to time so I'm not gonna be too pressed about Todd's unapologetic nature. Calling someone out or bluntly addressing someone doesn't always have to have some sort of problematic connotation attached to it. I'm GenX so not every bitter interaction I encounter needs a trip to therapy so there is that.

For now, I plan on viewing his attitude through the lens of it being show related animosity. I truly believe that Todd is hella salty about this whole housewives adventure his wife has decided to go on and doesn't plan on hiding it. Good for him. 

Edited November 22 by Yours Truly

[ZettaK]

37 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

I highly doubt that Bronwyn would leave after arguably a big breakout star this year. "Because it was my goddamn credit card" is going to be her "Receipts! Proof! Timeline! Screnshots!"

I doubt it, as well. She was screaming at Mary's party after her husband admonished her for screaming in Palm Springs. Todd might not film too much though, if she is invited for a second season.

[Yours Truly]

16 hours ago, politichick said:

He did not berate her. He calmly expressed his disappointment in her behavior and what went on during a trip that they paid for. Should he lie to her or encourage her to behave like some of the other women? I appreciate his honesty and he's not the one who put them on TV.

Would people say this if they were closer in age?

Agreed!