Chit-Chat: The Feels

[PRgal]

Like I've said before, I don't know where I belong anymore.  Therapy is helping a bit, but I feel like I'm on the fringes of society because I can't be one or the other, if you know what I mean (anyone who reads my writing will probably at least somewhat get it).

[Dimity]

41 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

But even Regan wouldn’t sell out to Russia.

Yep.  No one is suggesting, I hope, that before Trump we lived in a golden era, there were always two or three or more sides for every issue but at least the US government was working for the US not for Russia.  That is not the case today.  Far from it.  I don't know what else Trump can do to make his allegiance any clearer.  None so blind is very apt here.

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

These are the type of people who've  worked as servers and will turn around now and be demanding and nasty and leave a 10% tip because the server forgot to bring them more napkins.

Oh I know.  I've worked in those trenches and I know a good server from a subpar one.  Even then I always tip.  I'm always thinking, maybe someone called out and they have an extra large station. Maybe they got bad news and are powering through this shift. That host just double sat them, ROTATE. I can't tip less than 15%, I just can't.

 

1 hour ago, partofme said:

I don’t really believe what McConnell is saying here, at least domestically, there is a direct line from Reagan’s policies to Trump, just in Reagan’s day the Republicans were politer about their racism and spoke in dog whistles like “welfare queens”. but Reagan was every bit as much as Trump and Musk are for hurting poor people and doing away with the social safety net so I have no doubt Reagan would fit right in with today’s Republicans. 

I'm tired of the double standards of rich and poor people.  A poor person games the system (which they shouldn't) and every person in that program has to suffer.  A rich person uses tax breaks, cutting employment and cutting corners that compromises product and safety to game the system and it's "smart business."

[suomi]

Hitler knows what time it is.

 

[PRgal]

18 hours ago, Dimity said:

I think that is definitely part of it but also Freeland until very recently was a high ranking member of Trudeau's cabinet.  Liberals have a much better chance of winning if they can distance themselves from Trudeau.  The right wing smear machine here has spent the last 10 years ignoring every success and magnifying every misstep.  Sound familiar?

IMHO, it's about 40% because she's a woman and 60% because of her link to Trudeau Jr.   

[Dimity]

Starmer announces £1.6bn missile deal for Ukraine

Sir Keir Starmer has announced a £1.6bn missile deal for Ukraine, following a summit of European leaders in London.

The prime minister also announced "a number" of allies had signed up to a "coalition of the willing", alongside France's President Emmanuel Macron, prepared to commit troops to the Ukrainian frontline in the event of a peace deal.

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky attended the meeting, where 17 European leaders and Canadian premier Justin Trudeau discussed next steps in securing peace for Ukraine.

[Cementhead]

54 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Canadian premier Justin Trudeau

Wouldn't have expected this mistake by the BBC.

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, PRgal said:

Trudeau Jr.   

There is no such person.  However, speaking of our Prime Minister:

Trudeau expected to meet with King Charles to discuss 'matters of importance to Canada'

"I look forward to sitting down with His Majesty tomorrow," Trudeau said.

"As always, we will discuss matters of importance to Canada and to Canadians, and I can tell you that nothing seems more important to Canadians right now than standing up for our sovereignty and our independence as a nation."

[PRgal]

5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

There is no such person.  However, speaking of our Prime Minister:

Trudeau expected to meet with King Charles to discuss 'matters of importance to Canada'

"I look forward to sitting down with His Majesty tomorrow," Trudeau said.

"As always, we will discuss matters of importance to Canada and to Canadians, and I can tell you that nothing seems more important to Canadians right now than standing up for our sovereignty and our independence as a nation."

It’s my nickname for him.  I also call him PM NepoKid.  I get that he’s technically not a “junior” because his name isn’t Pierre but I call my son JrMintz online despite him not sharing his first name with my husband.  

[Anela]

2 hours ago, tearknee said:

Kent State reaction:

 

Most people weren't far-left pacifists or happy to carry water for Le Duan and the DRV.

Then and now:

"Leftist" = far left to the people on the street, which is the most objective measure.

"Liberals" = the actual left to people on the street. 

I live less than an hour from Kent State.  One of my uncles was attending, when they shot students.  He is a Vietnam vet, and didn’t support that. 

[Annber03]

6 hours ago, Notabug said:

The typical food bank emergency food package provides about 3 days worth of food per recipient.  That doesn't include perishables such as fruit, vegetables, dairy and eggs which are available sporadically for the average recipient.  In addition, spices like salt and pepper, sugar for tea or cereal, milk, butter, cooking oil etc are not part of the basic package.  

That someone living at near-poverty level could survive by using food banks is simply not true.

Can confirm. Family had to rely on food banks during some of our worst financial struggles and yeah, it is definitely not enough to live on. Not even close. The effort to help is wonderful, yes, but it's nowhere near enough. 

[tessaray]

32 minutes ago, Anela said:

I live less than an hour from Kent State.  One of my uncles was attending, when they shot students.  He is a Vietnam vet, and didn’t support that. 

I was only 13 when Kent State happened but it was traumatic for students everywhere, I think. (I had a lot of older cousins though. And was taking some advanced classes, so I was probably more exposed.) 

Ohio - the photo montage is pretty much how I remember it. The idea that it could happen again makes me sick to my stomach.

[bluegirl147]

What a wonderful world it would be if people were paid a living wage.  That would help a lot.  Yes there would still be people who need to use food pantries but not as many.  No matter what people like Musk and Paul Ryan (remember him) who thought if you weren't creating jobs you were a taker, think it is shameful we live in a country who's elected officials think it's better to give more to people who don't need it rather than ensure those that need more be able to get it.  As much as I hate the Republicans Democrats when they have had the opportunity to do more have not.  They might want to do that if they are ever in the majority again.

[tearknee]

As pointed out [though not by me], most people who weren't young (returned vets wouldn't be too old in 1970) thought it was correct action against a far-left rabble (which is what "the peace movement" still is colonized by).

The problem of the commentariat is not just one of simple partisanship. It is one of shared assumptions about what is important and about what influences the behavior of the voters. Here, in my adopted country, you saw this very strikingly during election year 2007 with the case of Dr Haneef. Virtually all the commentators, both professional and amateur, even in the Murdoch media, assumed that the bungling of the case was yet another nail in the Coalition’s electoral coffin. I disagree. My view is that the crucial section of the electorate (the floating voters) did not see this as a case of unjust treatment of an individual. They saw it as tough action against a suspected Islamist terrorist and approved of it. Haneef was a net plus for the Coalition, and that is my view.

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

3 hours ago, Dimity said:

Yep.  No one is suggesting, I hope, that before Trump we lived in a golden era, there were always two or three or more sides for every issue but at least the US government was working for the US not for Russia.  That is not the case today.  Far from it.  I don't know what else Trump can do to make his allegiance any clearer.  None so blind is very apt here.

I can't pretend to know what Reagan would do regarding Russia if elected in 2024, but one can draw one helluva rigid line from Ronnie "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government and I'm here to help" to Donnie, who can't burn down 200 years of democracy fast enough. 

Seriously, the guardrails are nearly gone and the helmets needed to survive the coming ride are nowhere to be found.

 

[Anela]

1 hour ago, tearknee said:

As pointed out [though not by me], most people who weren't young (returned vets wouldn't be too old in 1970) thought it was correct action against a far-left rabble (which is what "the peace movement" still is colonized by).

The problem of the commentariat is not just one of simple partisanship. It is one of shared assumptions about what is important and about what influences the behavior of the voters. Here, in my adopted country, you saw this very strikingly during election year 2007 with the case of Dr Haneef. Virtually all the commentators, both professional and amateur, even in the Murdoch media, assumed that the bungling of the case was yet another nail in the Coalition’s electoral coffin. I disagree. My view is that the crucial section of the electorate (the floating voters) did not see this as a case of unjust treatment of an individual. They saw it as tough action against a suspected Islamist terrorist and approved of it. Haneef was a net plus for the Coalition, and that is my view.

What worries me, is that some people like Greg Abbott, are fine with their voters running over liberal protesters, or harming them in other ways.  Professors, too, who were trying to protect their students last year, when we had more protests.  They were hurt by police. 

I can’t get to protests by myself, otherwise I’d be out there with groups in Ohio. But I am more afraid that trump will try to use force against us. He wanted that in 2020. 

[Eri]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

No matter what people like Musk and Paul Ryan (remember him) who thought if you weren't creating jobs you were a taker, think it is shameful we live in a country who's elected officials think it's better to give more to people who don't need it rather than ensure those that need more be able to get it. 

I certainly DO remember that contemptible waste of skin (Ryan). I also remember how he conveniently helped pass the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act bill in 2017 and then subsequently stepped down as Speaker after it passed. Nearly $1.5 trillion to the federal deficit over a decade.

I also remember his viral tone-deaf tweet where he was cheering a $1.50 increase to a Pennsylvania school secretary's weekly pay after passing said tax cuts. 

They were out of touch then and remain so now.

I don't know when we will learn from history -sigh-

Edited 16 hours ago by Eri

[PRgal]

I think some people TRY to understand, but just can't because they've never lived it.  It's like how people who've never had to straddle between two cultures don't understand how people like me feel.  It's not about code switching here.  For some people, it can be done with relative ease.  For others, it's a lot more challenging.  Especially when they struggle with the family's language (not uncommon for children of immigrants.  Or grandchildren when the parents have left them in the care of grandparents due to work/trip/adults only dinner).  You can't code switch when it means NOT being yourself.  For some reason, this is often left out of DEI training (and why I think the standard curriculum for DEI is extremely flawed).  Perhaps it's because no one wants to acknowledge this exists?  Or no one has been properly trained to deal with it/willing to train anyone?  

 

Note:  There was a very interesting episode of My So-Called Midlife (from January) where it's discussed.

[Kemper]

My brother was in Vietnam when Kent State happened. My family (and my brother) were horrified. He sent a letter and the first line? "What the hell is going on over there" ...  Yes, there was cheering from many people when it happened. But the war had become quite unpopular; so many citizens were ready to bring our troops home.

Edited 15 hours ago by Kemper

[Dimity]

2 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Yes, there was cheering from many people when it happened.

I was only a child when Kent happened, and in Canada, so my perception is very skewered of course but I honestly don't recall people cheering.  That's just awful.  I do remember hearing some of the adults I knew saying things like "it wouldn't have happened if they'd been in class" but that was about as bad as it got.  How could anyone see that iconic photograph and cheer? 

[Browncoat]

"What if you knew her, and found her dead on the ground.  How can you run when you know?"

[Annber03]

13 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I was only a child when Kent happened, and in Canada, so my perception is very skewered of course but I honestly don't recall people cheering.  That's just awful.  I do remember hearing some of the adults I knew saying things like "it wouldn't have happened if they'd been in class" but that was about as bad as it got.  How could anyone see that iconic photograph and cheer? 

.So basically, our country has just been shrugging off people dying in mass shootings at schools (and in general) for decades now. 

I know the members of Devo, as well as Chrissie Hynde, were students at Kent State when that massacre happened. I think one of the members of Devo knew someone who knew one of the victims - I read something about how the massacre kinda tied into their whole concept of humanty "devolving", hence the band name. 

[ECM1231]

21 hours ago, ebk57 said:

As for leaving the country, my brother lives in Italy and my SIL lives in Australia.  Possible options... 

My son is in the process of trying to obtain Italian citizenship for himself, his wife, and 2 young, toddler-age children. The past few weeks I've provided him with quite a bit of family history, some known to me and some that I have discovered. I don't know how serious he is about actually moving, and it would break my heart, but at least he does have options. 

[SoMuchTV]

46 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

"What if you knew her, and found her dead on the ground.  How can you run when you know?"

For years, I thought the line from the CSNY song was “Forget It, Ohio.”  It made it even worse when I learned it was “four dead in Ohio.” 

To be clear, I was fully aware of the Kent State incident. A lot of my cousins lived near there; not quite sure if any were students there at the time. I just didn’t fully connect the song we heard at high school dances with the actual tragedy. 

Edited 14 hours ago by SoMuchTV

[Annber03]

15 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

For years, I thought the line from the CSNY song was “Forget It, Ohio.”  It made it even worse when I learned it was “four dead in Ohio.” 

To be clear, I was fully aware of the Kent State incident. A lot of my cousins lived near there; not quite sure if any were students there at the time. I just didn’t fully connect the song we heard at high school dances with the actual tragedy. 

*Blinks*

...they played that song at school dances? 

I learned about the massacre from my parents - my dad used to play "Ohio" sometimes and he and my mom talked about hearing of the massacre on the news when it happened and everything. I'm trying to remember if we learned about it in school - I want to say my high school AP history class might've touched on it? 

[SoMuchTV]

3 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

*Blinks*

...they played that song at school dances? 

I’m sure it was in competition with whatever else was in the top 40 at the time. I remember disagreements between classmates about what to play on the cafeteria jukebox - Jackson 5 vs Jackson Browne. There was quite a variety of choices back then (early 70s) - from bubblegum to full on protest songs. 

[Kemper]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

I was only a child when Kent happened, and in Canada, so my perception is very skewered of course but I honestly don't recall people cheering.  That's just awful.  I do remember hearing some of the adults I knew saying things like "it wouldn't have happened if they'd been in class" but that was about as bad as it got.  How could anyone see that iconic photograph and cheer? 

Sorry ... I should not have said "cheering" ... it wasn't exactly that. But there were many many people who thought the protestors got exactly what they deserved.They were just not as mean-spirited as the Magas.  If we had 24/7 news stations (especially Fox) back then ... 

[fairffaxx]

What a difference 20 years makes.  The Kent State massacre occurred in 1970, when I was 23.  In 1950, I was 3 & living in Kent, where my dad taught at Kent State University.  We lived in a rented house next to the funeral parlor on Maine St. -- when the circus came to town, the elephants paraded down the street right in front of our house, each holding the tail of the one in front with its trunk.  We moved from Kent when I was 5 but I have many happy memories of it -- very hard to believe what happened there later (I like my elephants better).

[Notabug]

50 minutes ago, fairffaxx said:

What a difference 20 years makes.  The Kent State massacre occurred in 1970, when I was 23.  In 1950, I was 3 & living in Kent, where my dad taught at Kent State University.  We lived in a rented house next to the funeral parlor on Maine St. -- when the circus came to town, the elephants paraded down the street right in front of our house, each holding the tail of the one in front with its trunk.  We moved from Kent when I was 5 but I have many happy memories of it -- very hard to believe what happened there later (I like my elephants better).

I was in 8th grade, lived in Cleveland, about an hour away.  I remember people being shocked that the Guard had real ammo, we'd been given the impression that they had rubber bullets and I seem to recall that most of the protestors thought the same.  As the story unfolded and it was learned that at least 2 of those killed were not participating in the demonstration, but watching from a  nearby hill and did not charge the guard as we were told initially. As I recall, one of the men killed was an ROTC member.  I think that many people were kind of blase about it at first; 'well what did they expect?  They shouldn't have been there, shouldn't have charged the guard'.  Then, as more and more details became known, that the guardsmen were not given clearcut instructions as to when to shoot, that most were the same age as the students and had joined the National Guard to avoid being drafted and sent to Viet Nam, and that many of the 'protestors' were just regular college students who'd stopped to take a look and weren't participating in anything; feelings began to change and people started to realize that the fault didn't lie with any of the kids who were there that day but with the politicians (rot in hell, James Rhodes) who sent the guard to the campus.

BTW, my BIL attended Kent for undergrad after graduating high school in 1974.  He was repeatedly asked by otherwise regular people whether he had any problems with the National Guard still being on campus almost 4 years later.  There were a lot of people who thought the Guard was still there.  

1 hour ago, fairffaxx said:

What a difference 20 years makes.  The Kent State massacre occurred in 1970, when I was 23.  In 1950, I was 3 & living in Kent, where my dad taught at Kent State University.  We lived in a rented house next to the funeral parlor on Maine St. -- when the circus came to town, the elephants paraded down the street right in front of our house, each holding the tail of the one in front with its trunk.  We moved from Kent when I was 5 but I have many happy memories of it -- very hard to believe what happened there later (I like my elephants better).

Kent is really a charming little town. 

[ProudMary]

5 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

As much as I hate the Republicans Democrats when they have had the opportunity to do more have not.  They might want to do that if they are ever in the majority again.

It's a miracle the Democrats were able to get the legislation passed that they did. Dems took the House back in 2019. (2018 election) Republicans still held the WH and the Senate. All the Dems could do was block, not enact. Then the 2020 election gives the Dems the trifecta, but the Senate is only a 50/50 split. Yes, VP Harris can break ties, but MUCH legislation only garners 48 Democratic votes because Sinema and Manchin care more about lining their pockets and, they wouldn't vote to get rid of the filibuster, which was especially problematic. Then, Dems lost the House in 2022, so the Republicans started blocking everything again. Only two years "control" with two Senate DINOs doesn’t add up to a slam dunk.

[Lantern7]

I keep remembering that the State of the Union is on Tuesday. A normal President might walk back his comments and actions from the last few weeks.

Has anyone here watched Captain America: Brave New World? I'm not going to give anything away. I'll just say that in light of current events, the ending is unbelievably unrealistic. Good movie, though.

[LexieLily]

It's not going to happen, unfortunately, but how nice would it be if the collective media just...didn't cover the State of the Union speech. Nothing he says in it is going to be true.

[anony.miss]

I think the Democrats should boycott the State of Disunion.

They need to stand outside on the steps of the Capitol as the visible resistance to Trump, they need to show the world there are still Americans who refuse to support tyranny at home or abroad. They need to stop playing by the rules and break the fucking glass and raise the alarm. Let the empty suit, with the very long rap sheet and very, very short list (as in none) of human qualities rant and rage indoors, where it's safe and warm and the clapping of corrupt pro-Putin  enablers makes him feel like the big shot he never was. Millions of people around the world are waiting to see if America is still alive: It's time for the resistance to show up and show out.

Edited 5 hours ago by anony.miss

[tres bien]

Senator Chris Murphy (D CT) is not attending the State of the Union. 

He said it will be a MAGA rally not a serious speech 

There will probably be others 

It’s a pretty thin line for the Democrats. They’ve been accused by strategists in the party of everything from being left flat footed in responding to having no message and having no leader 

Edited 5 hours ago by tres bien

[lookeyloo]

2 hours ago, tres bien said:

Senator Chris Murphy (D CT) is not attending the State of the Union. 

He said it will be a MAGA rally not a serious speech 

There will probably be others 

It’s a pretty thin line for the Democrats. They’ve been accused by strategists in the party of everything from being left flat footed in responding to having no message and having no leader 

He is ...is "brave" the word? for going against orange and why don't more dems join him publicly?  Are they at least doing behind the scenes things?  I think it isn't just the fear of being primaried, it is the intimidation and coercion that goes on for the Republic party members who go along with all this that they know isn't good.  Just looking at Little Marco in the Oval Office.  He knows this isn't good.  What else is he afraid of?

[bluegirl147]

13 hours ago, Eri said:

I don't know when we will learn from history -sigh-

Not only are some people not learning from history they are following some of the very worst history.

9 hours ago, ProudMary said:

but MUCH legislation only garners 48 Democratic votes because Sinema and Manchin care more about lining their pockets and, they wouldn't vote to get rid of the filibuster, which was especially problematic.

Oh believe me I know all about Manchin and Sinema and good riddance to both. But even now the party is playing defense.  They should already be campaigning for 2026 highlighting what they will do if back in power.

6 hours ago, LexieLily said:

It's not going to happen, unfortunately, but how nice would it be if the collective media just...didn't cover the State of the Union speech. Nothing he says in it is going to be true.

If the media covered Trump honestly they would refute his lies but they rarely do that.  I wonder who will give the Democrat's response.

3 hours ago, anony.miss said:

I think the Democrats should boycott the State of Disunion.

This Democrat is boycotting it. I cannot stand to hear that man's voice let alone want hear what he is saying. I'm sure someone here will watch it and tell us the most egregious lies he tells.

3 hours ago, anony.miss said:

Millions of people around the world are waiting to see if America is still alive: It's time for the resistance to show up and show out.

This is true.  They are waiting to see if we are the people who hid Anne Frank or the people who ratted her out.

2 hours ago, tres bien said:

It’s a pretty thin line for the Democrats. They’ve been accused by strategists in the party of everything from being left flat footed in responding to having no message and having no leader 

Are these the same strategists that have been advising them the past few years? They need to be more pro active.  Just waiting to see what Trump does next and then denounce it is not giving us a lot of confidence. If I was a hopeful 2028 Democrat Presidential candidate I would start campaigning now. Even if it's just social media posts. Let voters know who you are and what you would do as president. 

30 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

I think it isn't just the fear of being primaried, it is the intimidation and coercion that goes on for the Republic party members who go along with all this that they know isn't good.  Just looking at Little Marco in the Oval Office.  He knows this isn't good.  What else is he afraid of?

So Trump over country. Used to be party over country but now it's just Trump. If we come through this I hope every single Republican politician who bowed to his whims is remembered the way they deserve to be remembered.  Sitting by while atrocities are being committed makes you complicit.  And they can't even use the Nazi's excuse that they didn't know. They are confirming his cabinet.  They are voting for the legislation he wants passed. And don't think you get to walk away clean McConnell and McCarthy.  You both had the opportunity to do what was right and you didn't. So fuck the two of you too.

Edited 3 hours ago by bluegirl147

[Bookish Jen]

I usually watch the State of the Union address, no matter who's the President. But But with Trump in the White House, I will boycott the address. I'm so sick of seeing and hearing him. I'm so fed up!

[tres bien]

Senator Elise Stefanik (D MI) is giving the democrats rebuttal 

Marco Rubio blew it. He could have stayed in his cushy job or run for governor

The democrats are have a lot of voices all over the map giving them advice but they need to tune most of them out find a leader and start rallying around the wagons 

 

[lookeyloo]

20 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Marco Rubio blew it. He could have stayed in his cushy job or run for governor

And just maybe he was strong-armed into this position because he seemed weak and easy to control.  Might have said "we will primary you, audit you, we know where your kids go to school".

[bluegirl147]

24 minutes ago, tres bien said:

The democrats are have a lot of voices all over the map giving them advice but they need to tune most of them out find a leader and start rallying around the wagons 

Agree.

Now he wants people to get vaccinated.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/03/kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-vaccine

Forgive me if I am real suspicious of any flip flopping he does.

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Now he wants people to get vaccinated.

Golly, Mr. Kennedy, you mean there are actual real life consequences to science denying and fear mongering and the embracing of conspiracy theories?  Who could possibly have foreseen that?

[Ohiopirate02]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

This Democrat is boycotting it. I cannot stand to hear that man's voice let alone want hear what he is saying. I'm sure someone here will watch it and tell us the most egregious lies he tells.

I have absolutely zero desire to watch him speak let alone watching an event where the room continues to break out in thunderous applause every 3 minutes for whatever lie Trump spews.

[tres bien]

Bobby Jr wrote an editorial on FOX News Digital talking up vaccine protection in individuals and contributing to community immunity 

He didn’t urge parents to vaccinate their children or get a measles shot calling it a personal choice 

So it’s gonna a be a bunch wishy washy word salad for however long until he gets bored quits and goes back to whatever crazy thing he was doing before 

[Dimity]

On 3/1/2025 at 3:37 AM, Soapy Goddess said:

However, Z didn't even want to agree to a "cease fire" because he felt Putin wouldn't honor it. Trump just wanted to start somewhere, but Z refused.

 

[ECM1231]

51 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Senator Elise Stefanik (D MI) is giving the democrats rebuttal 

 

 

Just a correction. It's Senator Elissa Slotkin  from Michigan giving the Democrat rebuttal. Elise Stefanik is a Republican Representative from NY. 

[Eri]

1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

And just maybe he was strong-armed into this position because he seemed weak and easy to control.

Because he *is* weak and easy to control like the other grifters in office 😉 He screams of "peaked in high school" energy by the way he's skirted through his pathetic career. Still, he was preferred over DeSantis any day of the week as Rubio helped him win more votes in typically Democratic-leaning FL counties during the last midterms.

Edited 1 hour ago by Eri

[peacheslatour]

Just like the Republican Bible says.

[bluegirl147]

44 minutes ago, Eri said:

Because he *is* weak and easy to control 😉 He screams of "peaked in high school" energy by the way he's skirted through his pathetic career. Still, he was preferred over DeSantis any day of the week as Rubio helped him win more votes in typically Democratic-leaning FL counties during the last midterms.

If Rubio had ever been elected as a Democrat he would have lost reelection.  What has he ever done? And I 100% believe if he had ran in any other state than Florida he would have lost. Being Trumps sycophant SOS should definitely end his career.

[tres bien]

Trump doesn’t have a clue.

Everyday he’s going to slap tariffs on Canada and Mexico in a week or tomorrow or whenever the wind blows the right way 

The latest is we’re putting tariffs on them on Tuesday! 

Uh huh

[Dimity]

4 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Just like the Republican Bible says.

I think there was also another line in there that said "And thou shalt use the 25% tariff as a tax on the poor so that the rich can continue to profit and thrive.  So sayeth the Trump and so shall it be."