S18.E16: Sunday Roasted

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, Arynm said:

Gina has had the blinders removed i.e. Tamra. She knew damn well that even if Shannon had hired someone to dig up some dirt on Gina, she never brought it on camera. That was all Tamra. Shannon had it ready to go for the reunion and has enough humanity to not speak on it.

Great point @Arynm.  Same with telling Heather that Katie's daughter told Katie who told Tamra that Emily's little boys said Heather was mean to their mom.  Or telling Katie/Heather, everyone about Ryan and the FBI out of "concern" for Jenn.  

 

 

[la patineuse]

4 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Great point @Arynm.  Same with telling Heather that Katie's daughter told Katie who told Tamra that Emily's little boys said Heather was mean to their mom.  Or telling Katie/Heather, everyone about Ryan and the FBI out of "concern" for Jenn.  

 

 

Agreed. Tamra is behind a lot of the pot stirring. None of her co-workers should share anything with her because she catalogues every confidence so she can use it against them at a later date after she's had a falling out with them or when she wants to instigate trouble.

Tamra is just trash pure and simple. She's a mean spirited, nasty, foul-mouthed sociopathic narcissist who can't behave properly in public any better than a cranky two-year old throwing a tantrum (probably worse because she's an adult who should know better). When she's called out on her behavior, she deflects, projects, throws out insults and says totally inappropriate things such as, "Is he [Ryan I assume] going to put a hit out on me?" And, "Are you going to hit me?" Was this directed at Shannon? I don't remember Shannon ever acting out violently. And of course she continues to screech at Shannon that she is a drunk and a liar (but, of course she is just being a good friend and is coming from a place of concern). I don't buy that she is a totally different person in real life; when someone shows/tells you who they are, believe them. And her kind of drama is not entertaining even though Andy Cohen and Bravo seem to love it.  Drama can be created without being a vile rat, but Tamra isn't intelligent enough to do this and can only resort to street fighting.

 

Edited October 26 by la patineuse

[RealHousewife]

I could really do without hearing about whether or not the women have pooped that day. 

[bravofan27]

17 hours ago, dmeets said:

 

Interesting how suddenly and out of the blue Tamra and Katie are totally over each other. Heather and Tamra have nobody but each other at this point. Well, except for Johnny J and Jesus Jugs.

With Tamra gossiping about what Katie's daughter said about small children, she took it to a whole other level. Katie loves Jenn, Heather is obsessed with Tamra-- they are settling into their alliances.

This episode was the first one I haven't wanted to watch, with Tamra starting major issues with everyone, the common theme being it's all going back on Shannon. It was actually pretty boring, and both Tamra and Heather seem pretty exhausted. 

[Sweet-tea]

On 10/24/2024 at 9:55 PM, EtheltoTillie said:

The producers are just pranking us now.  An etiquette class for this bunch?  First rule of Etiquette Club—you don’t talk about Enema Club. 
Tamra didn’t know the four Beatles. Come on. 

I couldn’t believe this, especially at her age. She doesn’t remember Paul McCartney? Give me a break. 

On 10/24/2024 at 9:15 PM, Pi237 said:

How many times is Shannon going to need help pooping? I’d never make the whole crew wait for me because I needed a bowel movement. I’d say-go and I’ll text you when I’m done and meet up.  She’s exhausting 

She is a drama queen. I would’ve done my very best to keep this to myself. 

On 10/24/2024 at 10:03 PM, snarts said:

Whenever Tamrat is called out, she drops bombs in an attempt to distract & the focus off her. 

Yep. She tried to get Gina riled up because she knew she was caught about investigating Ryan. Classic deflection. 

Edited October 26 by Sweet-tea

[bravofan27]

8 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

Heather’s neck looked scraggy in natural light.  I don’t think her husband can fix it.  It’s best to carry a bit of weight as you age, I think.  

 

Last time Heather was on WWHL, she said she gets botox in her neck. Ouch! 

[Natalie68]

21 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Shannon and her bowels. This isn't the first time that she has had need of an emergency  enema. And didn't she develop some kind of home colonic thing? I have never known a grown woman crying and carrying on and needing 3 people attending to her because she is constipated. 

Maybe all the enemas/colonics she has done have messed up her pooper. Shannon, eat some fiber and drink water and not vodka/tequila/mouthwash). But it was just another excuse for Shannon to be histrionic. I haven't watched this ep yet but I did see she left the trip and had a tantrum.  This is EVERY FUCKING SEASON.  When isn't she tantruming, yelling at someone, making excuses and sucking out all the air from the room? God she is a mess.  Not even close to being a fun mess.

21 hours ago, ZettaK said:

So, the ex husband of David Beador's new wife Lesley was involved in a lawsuit with Ryan Boyajian and his business partner.

Jenn protests too much. 

Shannon is all about investigations. She investigated Brooks, Vicki's ex boyfriend with Meghan King Edward's. I'm not complaining about it though.

When is someone going to investigate Shannon?

[la patineuse]

2 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I could really do without hearing about whether or not the women have pooped that day. 

Especially while seated at a dining table, let alone at a table where you are pretending to take an etiquette lesson. Who does uncouth (and unappetizing) things like this?????

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, Sweet-tea said:

Yep. She tried to get Gina riled up because she knew she was caught about investigating Ryan. Classic deflection. 

She even got up from the table to stand by Gina and try to intimidate her. 

1 hour ago, bravofan27 said:

ith Tamra gossiping about what Katie's daughter said about small children, she took it to a whole other level.

But Heather said this would hurt her reputation!!!  With eight year olds I guess.  Good grief. 

[Natalie68]

9 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

I was really distracted during Tamra's last attack (she made many this week) by the stupid black bow on the back of her head.   We know she and Heather brought glam squads, or more likely just Heather and Tamra globbed on, so I can only think they hate Tamra.  Heh.  Not as much as I do though.

Bows do not belong on anyone outside of tween years.

[FozzyBear]

Wow. Horrible episode mostly all around.

The Bad:

Tamara. You are vile. Maybe the worst person on Bravo and that is a very high bar. 

Heather. I get what you’re saying about the information not really being private but you should have kept your mouth shut. And learn to apologize.

Shannon. Shut the fuck up. If you don’t like people feeling like you’re using them to spin a narrative on TV STOP DOING IT. You told Heather in camera on purpose. And then you went on a podcast and then you talked about it everywhere! You are not the victim you think you are. Also you absolutely did Gina dirty. And you were never bothered by Tamara’s behavior before she turned on you so shut up.

Katie. I’m sorry having your adult daughter spread gossip she got from babysitting 8 year olds? That is fucking weird.

The good-ish

Jenn. You seem sweet but lord…you are making some very bad decisions and it’s not going to be Tamara’s fault when this blows up for you.

Emily. You were good. You stayed out of it mostly and backed up Gina.

The Good:

Gina. 👏👏👏Stellar episode for you. You saw through all the bullshit. You did not fall for either Heather, Tamara, or Shannon’s games. And you looked cute as hell doing it. 
 

[UsernameFatigue]

I don't know that I believe that Emily's 8 year old kids discussed Heather with Katie's daughter. In what context would the subject be raised? Maybe it was made clear on the show and I missed it, but it makes no sense whatsoever.

That said, the producers are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel this season. They are as disgusting as Tamra IMO.  How pathetic that they have to show decade old clips to find an episode's worth of material. I feel sorry for Shannon that her trip was ruined (IMO by production) but honestly the viewers' trip was ruined as well. And we didn't get paid a cent to consume this drivel.

I read somewhere speculation that Heather might not return of her own accord next year. I can see that happening as Heather lives to be admired, and she was anything but this season. She obviously doesn't need the money, so if she isn't being admired and envied, I don't see any reason for FP to stick around.

The final scene where Shannon fled and the others giggled at Shannon's cake arriving, complete with Tamra being centre stage once again, was the height of bullying. And not by Tamra, but by production. Disgusting. 

Edited October 26 by UsernameFatigue

[Cosmocrush]

2 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I read somewhere speculation that Heather might not return of her own accord next year. I can see that happening as Heather lives to be admired, and she was anything but this season. She obviously doesn't need the money, so if she isn't being admired and envied, I don't see any reason for FP to stick around.

I think some of the speculation was around Heather literally moving out of OC (they rented a place there for filming) and buying a place in Beverly Hills.  I think she desperately wants to be a RHOBH, where of course she would not be the Queen Bee she thinks she is, and for that reason I'd kind of like to see that happen.  BH  has two actual working actors/producers (Kyle and Garcelle) so that might be fun.  

[UsernameFatigue]

1 hour ago, Cosmocrush said:

I think some of the speculation was around Heather literally moving out of OC (they rented a place there for filming) and buying a place in Beverly Hills.  I think she desperately wants to be a RHOBH, where of course she would not be the Queen Bee she thinks she is, and for that reason I'd kind of like to see that happen.  BH  has two actual working actors/producers (Kyle and Garcelle) so that might be fun.  

Haven't the rumors about Heather wanting to join the BH cast been around for at least a couple of years? (Since she and Terry bought the condo there, before they bought the house to reno?). The article I read was recent and referenced specifically how badly she was coming off this year, both with her castmates and the fans. There wasn't a mention of her wish to join BH, but I agree that she is desperate to join that cast. I am sure she believes that is where she belongs, not slumming with the OC women that she is so superior to. Lol. 

[Glama]

10 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I could really do without hearing about whether or not the women have pooped that day. 

So could the etiquette lady. She's sorry she signed up for the job that particular day. 

[Slakkie]

7 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Haven't the rumors about Heather wanting to join the BH cast been around for at least a couple of years? (Since she and Terry bought the condo there, before they bought the house to reno?). The article I read was recent and referenced specifically how badly she was coming off this year, both with her castmates and the fans. There wasn't a mention of her wish to join BH, but I agree that she is desperate to join that cast. I am sure she believes that is where she belongs, not slumming with the OC women that she is so superior to. Lol. 

Heather would get eaten alive on BH. She wouldn’t be the richest.  She would not be the best ex-actress nor the best dressed. And Kyle has the most butthurtness too. There is no spot for her.  She ain’t so fancy when she doesn’t know who the King of England is nor English etiquette. My lord I know all of that myself. Just stop. She needs to stay in the OC

[Baltimore Betty]

14 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Maybe all the enemas/colonics she has done have messed up her pooper.

That could be exactly right, if you over do the pills, enemas, etc...your body can forget how to signal and go on it's own so on top of Shannon drinking she is constipated, hungover and constipated is not the way I want to go thru life, I'd be as angry as Tamra every day!

Seeing Shannon with her girls was nice and I am sure she misses them, I think they are glad to have some distance from her.

How did Gina ge to be the voice of reason? I am actually liking her.

Emily's blue mini was way too mini, it was just below her lady bits and if she is afraid of pooping herself there is just not enough fabric back there between herself and the chair fabric.

Tamra not knowing all four Beatles was sad but I guess her age the Beatles were no more and if you weren't a fan of them they wouldn't be on your radar.  I cannot tell the difference between the boy bands of the 90's so maybe that is the same for Tamra as in the boy bands were not on my radar.

I have a feeling that when the cameras are not around Tamra does not hear from Heather.

 

Edited October 26 by Baltimore Betty

[StevieRocks]

4 hours ago, Slakkie said:

Heather would get eaten alive on BH. She wouldn’t be the richest.  She would not be the best ex-actress nor the best dressed. And Kyle has the most butthurtness too. There is no spot for her.  She ain’t so fancy when she doesn’t know who the King of England is nor English etiquette. My lord I know all of that myself. Just stop. She needs to stay in the OC

Thank you. There is nothing "fancy" about Madame Puppet Dubrow. She SHOULD be besties with GrandMAW TamRAT because she is just like GrandMAW TamRAT. TamRAT is a pig on a low-rent reality show, and Madame Puppet Dubrow is a pig on a low-rent reality show--a skeletal, bony, "old-lady skinny" pig, but a pig, nonetheless. 

Edited October 26 by StevieRocks

[StevieRocks]

...And children are saying you're mean because you are mean, Madame Puppet. You hateful old bat. But try not to have a "psychotic break" over it. 

Edited October 26 by StevieRocks

[Glama]

34 minutes ago, StevieRocks said:

...And children are saying you're mean because you are mean, Madame Puppet. You hateful old bat. But try not to have a "psychotic break" over it. 

This is what gets me everytime. Everytime she says she's not mean or defends herself against accusations of being mean - she was horrible to Shannon! She suggested Shannon has mental illness. Nobody who's as fancy as Heather pretends to be would ever gaslight a friend (or co-worker) like that. 

Thank you for the reminder, StevieRocks!

 

[hottesthw]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Tamra not knowing all four Beatles was sad but I guess her age the Beatles were no more and if you weren't a fan of them they wouldn't be on your radar.  I cannot tell the difference between the boy bands of the 90's so maybe that is the same for Tamra as in the boy bands were not on my radar.

She is only a few years older than me and we all know who the Beatles are. She’s just a ‘effin moron is all. 

On 10/24/2024 at 9:54 PM, 65mickey said:

Shannon and her bowels. This isn't the first time that she has had need of an emergency  enema. And didn't she develop some kind of home colonic thing? I have never known a grown woman crying and carrying on and needing 3 people attending to her because she is constipated. 

Am I the only one that thought this years current bowel issues are related to weight-loss injections? I mean that’s the only side effect literally everyone complains about. 

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, hottesthw said:

She is only a few years older than me and we all know who the Beatles are. She’s just a ‘effin moron is all. 

Agreed.  Remember when the tour guide on the boat said, “and there’s the Eiffel Tower.”  Tamra actually strained her neck to look.  
I was kind of surprised when they did the Abbey Road  pose  because I wasn’t too sure they even knew what that was,lol.

[Jst2Wld]

1 hour ago, hottesthw said:

Am I the only one that thought this years current bowel issues are related to weight-loss injections? I mean that’s the only side effect literally everyone complains about. 

I know someone who started taking Ozempic recently. At first she wouldn't say how she managed to go from a size 16 to a size 10 in 3 months but she finally admitted she's been using Ozempic. She already has Crohn's disease so I guess bowel issues are something she's used to. 

All of these howives are looking sickly and very old. Except Gina and Emily. 

Hopefully the reunion will provide some amusement because nothing this season has. 

 

 

[dosodog]

Perhaps this falls under TMI...

I have never had an enema or take stuff for pooping because generally the "pipes work on their own".

Except for when I travel. Everytime. I don't know if it's from nerves, time zone changes or what.

But the first couple of days on vacation, my body is just not regulated.

However, I don't share with the group. I keep that shit to myself!

[Baltimore Betty]

43 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Agreed.  Remember when the tour guide on the boat said, “and there’s the Eiffel Tower.”  Tamra actually strained her neck to look.  
I was kind of surprised when they did the Abbey Road  pose  because I wasn’t too sure they even knew what that was,lol.

I was giving Tamra too much grace, @hottesthw is right, she is an effing moron.

[ButterQueen]

Well, Heather showed her true colors this season.  She really is a mean, foul mouthed bitch.  In her outside conversation with Shannon, she looked ugly.  Not just older, but ugly.  It’s the horrible judgemental faces she makes.  

I wish Tamra would just go away.  What a waste of a human she is.  She is scary looking without makeup.  If she returns next season, I’m out.

Heather with the black ribbon and Tamra with the big black bow….how ridiculous looking.

Gina’s hair looks amazing.

I like Katie.  
 

 

 

[dosodog]

I also like Katie. I'd like her to get another season. I'd also like to see Tamra get a "time out" next season.

Shannon's daughters were funny and I enjoy seeing them as young adults making Shannon feel all kinds of uncomfortable. 

[Jst2Wld]

18 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

Well, Heather showed her true colors this season.  She really is a mean, foul mouthed bitch.  In her outside conversation with Shannon, she looked ugly.  Not just older, but ugly.  It’s the horrible judgemental faces she makes.  

I wish Tamra would just go away.  What a waste of a human she is.  She is scary looking without makeup.  If she returns next season, I’m out.

Heather with the black ribbon and Tamra with the big black bow….how ridiculous looking.

Gina’s hair looks amazing.

I like Katie.  
 

 

 

Yes. You'd think that being married to one of the most successful plastic surgeons, she could do something about her droopy "marionette" mouth lines. 

 

[Palimelon]

And now I can't unsee that.

[Stats Queen]

3 hours ago, dosodog said:

I also like Katie. I'd like her to get another season. I'd also like to see Tamra get a "time out" next season.

Shannon's daughters were funny and I enjoy seeing them as young adults making Shannon feel all kinds of uncomfortable. 

I’d like to see Tamra get a “time expired”

[dmeets]

She already got her pause. The next one needs to be permanent. And if she stays, then contrary to what I see people begging for all over social media, I do NOT want to see Gretchen, Cancer Scammer, or That Dodd Woman return just because they all dislike Tamra. There's got to be plenty of new blood with a 949 area code who also dislike her.

[Slakkie]

On 10/26/2024 at 4:56 PM, Cosmocrush said:

On 10/26/2024 at 5:04 PM, Jst2Wld said:

I know someone who started taking Ozempic recently. At first she wouldn't say how she managed to go from a size 16 to a size 10 in 3 months but she finally admitted she's been using Ozempic. She already has Crohn's disease so I guess bowel issues are something she's used to. 

All of these howives are looking sickly and very old. Except Gina and Emily. 

Hopefully the reunion will provide some amusement because nothing this season has. 

 

 

I take Ozempic ‘for the right reasons’ aka diabetes and this episode killed me because I was in the middle of a tour of parliament in the UK when all of a sudden I had to go and it’s true that it’s not like oh geez I have 15 minutes. It’s more like 15 seconds. I was in a panic and told the tour guide I was getting ill and they assumed vomit and ran me to a bathroom. Never been so happy. 
 

I was in such a panic and was so afraid when my stomach began gurgling. I cannot imagine had I not made it lol. FWIW Inhave been on it two years and am normal A1C so it is an amazing medication and allows me to live a normal life but you do need to be careful with ANY food changes because you never know how your body will react. 

[RealHousewife]

4 hours ago, dmeets said:

She already got her pause. The next one needs to be permanent. And if she stays, then contrary to what I see people begging for all over social media, I do NOT want to see Gretchen, Cancer Scammer, or That Dodd Woman return just because they all dislike Tamra. There's got to be plenty of new blood with a 949 area code who also dislike her.

Yeah Orange County has to be one of the easiest Housewife shows to cast. I'm sure there must be a lot of glamorous women who would love to be on TV there. 

[MaggieG]

On 10/25/2024 at 6:56 PM, bravofan27 said:

This episode was the first one I haven't wanted to watch, with Tamra starting major issues with everyone, the common theme being it's all going back on Shannon. It was actually pretty boring, and both Tamra and Heather seem pretty exhausted. 

She did the same thing last season, she was turning everything around on Heather and everything was Heather's fault. And this season Heather is up her ass. I don't get it. I've always been a Heather apologist but she really lost me this season.

 

[Mr. Miner]

On 10/25/2024 at 8:03 PM, FozzyBear said:

Tamara. You are vile. Maybe the worst person on Bravo and that is a very high bar. 

I'm going with Teresa Guidice on this one and it's really not even close.

[65mickey]

We got the obligatory "I'm done"  from Shannon while she storms out again this episode. But  next week we get the "I'm done and this time I mean it."  We'll see.  

Edited Tuesday at 08:12 PM by 65mickey

[RealHousewife]

5 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

I'm going with Teresa Guidice on this one and it's really not even close.

It’s sad but yeah I don’t think Tamra’s the worst person on Bravo either. Jen Shah is pretty rotten. Brandi Glanville is a bigger bully. If we’re not going just by Housewives, Mike Shouhed is physically abusive. Long list of monsters sadly.

Tamra is at least rumored to be a nice person off camera. 

[Neveragain]

On 10/24/2024 at 10:55 PM, EtheltoTillie said:

Tamra didn’t know the four Beatles. Come on. 

That’s because she’s SO YOUNG 

[Sweet-tea]

On 10/26/2024 at 2:48 PM, hottesthw said:

She is only a few years older than me and we all know who the Beatles are. She’s just a ‘effin moron is all. 

I didn’t believe her for a minute. I’m about her age and the Beatles were also before my time. They broke up before I was even old enough to go to school, but growing up I knew who they were as they were widely publicized. Tamra would’ve been more believable if she had forgotten the names of Ringo Starr or George Harrison, not Paul McCartney. He and John Lennon were the most well known of the band members. 

I think she feigned ignorance to make herself appear younger. The woman is manipulative to the nth degree. 

Edited Wednesday at 12:19 AM by Sweet-tea

[Sweet-tea]

On 10/29/2024 at 6:58 AM, Mr. Miner said:

I'm going with Teresa Guidice on this one and it's really not even close.

I vote for Jen from Salt Lake City, although I agree Teresa is also horrible.  I also think  Dorinda from NY is mean, a bully and a drunk. 

Edited Yest. at 01:40 AM by Sweet-tea

[lightninggirl]

On 10/25/2024 at 11:44 AM, snarts said:

Tamrat actually told on herself at that dinner when she said that Ryan hurt her. You could see the wheels turning in Jenn's mind in reacting to that comment as well. How did he hurt her? Did he not flirt back or reject her advances? Is it because he actively pursued Jenn and not her?

Jealousy would explain a lot in how she's treated Jenn/why she has such a hardon for Ryan.

YES. I heard that as well, and suddenly it made sense. I agree with you that she probably came on to him knowing he went after married women, and he turned her down. Or perhaps they had a sexual relationship at some point and he dumped her, which might explain how she took Jenn under her wing at the beginning of Jenn's time on the show (guilt, perhaps?). She's so freaking UNHINGED that she just spewed that out probably before she realized what she was saying right after it left her mouth.

The only other thing I can think of is that he insulted Eddie by saying he was soft and didn't work, so that might've been a recent insult that could be characterized by her hurt comment. Really thinking it's the former, though, because she's so narcissistic that it's always got to be about her. She's disgusting and pathetic.

On 10/25/2024 at 3:57 PM, la patineuse said:

And Heather is also picking up on Tamra's vile, uncouth habits as well.  I don't remember Heather having such a potty mouth.

This!!! Her f-bombs are just flying in this episode, and I don't recall her ever talking as much like a sailor as she has in the past few episodes. Weird. It's like her mask is dropping.