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25 minutes ago, Ellee said:

@Skooma It appears that I need to check out the first season of BB again.  And I will with fresh eyes. 😁

To everyone else … you are all probably right regarding this show.  As each of you disappear it will be harder for me to watch too.  
 

So what should I try next?

OT:  On the first BB they had their own mini-garden and chickens in the back "yard" thus Chicken George.  And for groceries for the week they had to earn them in contests.  It was like a family unit in some ways though in the end there could only be one winner.  Only one-legged Eddie seemed to keep that last thought in mind.

God it was so great not to have a silly, power-tripping HOH and no stupid phrases like "blood on my hands" and "vote with the house." 

If you love the current format you won't like Season 1.  I don't love or even like the current format so I like how I felt watching Season 1.  I liked the feel of innocence and good will.  I'm so damn tired of backstabbing stuff.

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Since it comes on right after Survivor. I'm in 'til the bitter end😎, hoping to see most of them get screwed.

And the helicopter.  wtf?

Pilot is very skilled (or reckless) to get that close to those rocks and ropes and stuff.  Wind gusts happen.

But yeah, it really seems to serve no purpose other than allowing production to push things in any direction they want.

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I'm out. I tried. But it's too stupid. 😁 And I don't understand how the host is deciding which two are up for elimination. He just walks up to the group and asks one person who people have been talking about and whatever they say, he then takes a vote between those two. Whuh? Do they pre-determine those two elsewhere in some other way we are not privy to, cuz otherwise that is whack. 

I am going to switch to watching Amazing Race Australia after Survivor. It's the celebrity edition, but I don't know any of them, so it's like a regular edition to me. I really hope Amazing Race U.S. is not being permantently replaced by this show, cuz it pales. For those missing Amazing Race, you can stream the current or older seasons of Amazing Race Australia for free at https://southhemitv.com/category/the-amazing-race/

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I'll probably keep watching this, but reluctantly, because I am a completist.

Each episode seems to concentrate on a production-installed scary object that the contestants must deal with.  That's up to half the episode.  If they edited that down, this could be an hour long show.

Again, they should have hiking poles for safety in this terrain.

I don't need three mustache twirling villains.  If no one was spooked by BeckyLou scampering up the ladder two rungs at a time, they're not paying attention.  She and Dennis and Devon (the guy who went last) are playing way too hard.

I think the host is part Maori.

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On 10/16/2024 at 11:05 PM, KeithJ said:

Three episodes in and I’m almost at the point where I hope nobody reaches the summit.

I know exactly what you mean!

On 10/17/2024 at 8:31 AM, Ellee said:

this group’s philosophy seems to be get rid of the people that can get us to the top and to the money. 

Ridiculous, isn't it? All these people are a few pixels shy of a full screen.

Honestly, I can't believe how stupid these people are. And that Dennis  and Beckylee are exceedingly proud of their stupidity!

But surely there is somebody on the climb that understands. Why are they not at least trying to explain it to the dunder-heads? 

I will watch next week but I really hope they do something to drop the level of stupid. I'm not watching this crap all the way to the summit.

I was thinking how nice it would be if the final climbers make it to thtr the summit and get a 90% penalty for completely failing to understand the nuance of game-play and playing Survivor instead. But then I realized how much better it would be if they dragged themselves on hands and knees towards the summit..... and failed to make the deadline. Because the stronger players who might have made that happen had all been eliminated for being "threats". No prize money for anyone! 

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1 hour ago, Netfoot said:

But then I realized how much better it would be if they dragged themselves on hands and knees towards the summit..... and failed to make the deadline. Because the stronger players who might have made that happen had all been eliminated for being "threats". No prize money for anyone! 

Totally agree, but I sadly I don't think production will allow that to happen.  We shall see.....

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17 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

I sadly I don't think production will allow that to happen.

Obviously, production will drag their cooling corpses over the finish line for the win, rather than produce a reality show that has no winner. But if only...

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I’m so disappointed.  I loved the first ep of the show.  Now it’s unlikeable. It’s not well thought out and that stupid helicopter, ugh.  And the players, voting out the strong ones, are idiots. And Dennis the liar.  
At this point they’re not going to make it in time anyway.  I’ll keep watching, just because, but the show has a lot of changing to do to be a success.  

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I'm not saying that Dennis, in addition to his numerous other  faults, is racist, but Koreans do not have the best track record when it comes to dealing with Black folks.  And even though she's not the strongest, Dennis will come up with another reason for the gang of idiots to vote her out.  The fact that she's Black won't even be mentioned.


I have no desire to see evil rewarded -- I cancelled the recording.

On 10/12/2024 at 10:48 AM, meep.meep said:

Pumpkin:  if you want to be taken seriously in life, don't go by a silly childhood nickname!  (If it's Punkin, that's worse)

Punkin is the  name she uses on social media: Instagram.  Her "government name" is Kalivia -- anyone who watches Survivor will know how badly that would get mangled!

She (and her wife) are sergeants in the US Air Force -- I think she get taken pretty seriously!

On 10/13/2024 at 1:43 PM, Quilt Fairy said:

These people are trying to play Survivor and Big Brother, and that's not the game.  It seems so obvious to me, sitting here on my couch.  Get as many people as possible to the summit.  At each checkpoint, cut the weakest link.  You don't need alliances, you don't need villains. These folks are really over-thinking this, and I already hope that nobody makes it to the top.

So many people have said this and it's so true and so dumb.

On 10/16/2024 at 8:07 PM, Quilt Fairy said:

I'm out.  This is simply not a show I want to watch.  It could be beautiful, inspiring and up-lifting, instead it is ugly and mean-spirited.  Previously, I said the climbers weren't playing the game properly.  But after tonight, I think they're playing exactly the game the producers want them to play.

 

On 10/16/2024 at 8:08 PM, PaperTree said:

Had they taken the food, would they be just that much further behind, waiting for Amy and Pati, maybe not making the next checkpoint?

We can't really tell, due to editing, but it looked like the bivy camp wasn't that far, and they got to the checkpoint in plenty of time, even after taking time to play in the snow. 

"People, we're in a real time crunch here so let's take a half hour to goof off!"

On 10/17/2024 at 5:31 AM, Ellee said:

I’ve found that the forums are really more important than the show. 

That's generally the case.

10 hours ago, Netfoot said:

I know exactly what you mean!

 

Ridiculous, isn't it? All these people are a few pixels shy of a full screen.

Honestly, I can't believe how stupid these people are. And that Dennis  and Beckylee are exceedingly proud of their stupidity!

But surely there is somebody on the climb that understands. Why are they not at least trying to explain it to the dunder-heads? 

I will watch next week but I really hope they do something to drop the level of stupid. I'm not watching this crap all the way to the summit.

I was thinking how nice it would be if the final climbers make it to thtr summit and get a 90% penalty for completely failing to understand the nuance of game-play and playing Survivor instead. But then I realized how much better it would be if they dragged themselves on hands and knees towards the summit..... and failed to make the deadline. Because the stronger players who might have made that happen had all been eliminated for being "threats". No prize money for anyone! 

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10 hours ago, Netfoot said:

I realized how much better it would be if they dragged themselves on hands and knees towards the summit..... and failed to make the deadline.

If  they get just in sight of the last checkpoint just as time runs out...

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Turns out I'm not delusional after all, as I was sure I had seen a previous season of this show.  Apparently it was the Australian version, which now has a season 2 according to the Media site. 

This show is pretty much a carbon copy, with regards to the challenges and helicopter and the same host.  The players on that season however, seemed to be somewhat smarter than these ones, well, a box of crayons is brighter than some of these people.  I enjoyed the ending of that one, so will keep watching this one.

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Personally, if I had been sitting there (like they all were) when Dennis lied and said he hadn't been going after Geoff, and I wasn't already planning to vote Dennis out, I'd have switched my vote then. It's weird that nobody seemed to have a problem with that.

 

Anyway, the show is stupid, these people are stupid, and I hope they don't reach the top. I'll keep checking back here to see how bad it gets without wasting an hour every week. Thanks to whoever makes the sacrifice and keeps posting about it.

(And if anyone's missing an Amazing Race-like show, but without the roadblocks and stuff, give the UK show Race Across the World and the celebrity version a try. The title screens on this show kept reminding me of that, and a bad show constantly reminding me of a better show is never good.)

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On 10/18/2024 at 3:51 PM, Netfoot said:

But surely there is somebody on the climb that understands. Why are they not at least trying to explain it to the dunder-heads?

That was probably Geoff.  But they likely edited out any explaining he did since he wasn't long for this trek.  Plus he also got distracted by Dennis taking shots at him.

 

On 10/18/2024 at 3:51 PM, Netfoot said:

But then I realized how much better it would be if they dragged themselves on hands and knees towards the summit..... and failed to make the deadline. Because the stronger players who might have made that happen had all been eliminated for being "threats". No prize money for anyone! 

This is exactly what I expect to happen.  And the look on Dennis' and BeckyLee's faces will be worth it.

 

I'm slightly surprised by the general reaction here.  Of all the non-TAR reality shows that CBS has tried in the post-Survivor slot, I think this is the best one.  (Million Dollar Mile and Real Love Boat, anyone?)  It has a decent combination of physical challenge, strategery (which is what these a lot of these people are doing and is different from "strategy", which agreed would be actually planning on how to make it to the summit while having to eliminate members of the group), and a great location.  I think it has legs and would like to see it continue past this season.  (Note:  I'm not saying anyone else's opinion is wrong.  If y'all don't like it, that's fine and valid.  I'm just saying I do like it.)

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On 10/18/2024 at 12:32 PM, TVbitch said:

I am going to switch to watching Amazing Race Australia after Survivor. It's the celebrity edition, but I don't know any of them, so it's like a regular edition to me. I really hope Amazing Race U.S. is not being permantently replaced by this show, cuz it pales. For those missing Amazing Race, you can stream the current or older seasons of Amazing Race Australia for free at https://southhemitv.com/category/the-amazing-race/

@TVbitch, thanks so much for reminding me about this website!  As you mentioned, when you don't know who anyone is, the celebrity aspect is moot.  I'm 5 episodes in, and it's a delightful season.  Does anyone know why this version does not have a forum? 

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One of the things that annoy me the most about this show is the open voting.  The host one does a terrible job, where he almost involuntarily nominates people.  (Also you can't have more than two nominees?)

But the other issue is that because its open voting, everyone can see who may or may not raise their hand.  So someone like Robert who is on the fence, can easily have their vote manipulated at that moment, because he notices who hasn't have his hands raised.  Not to mention people could wink/signal to others how to vote.  It needs to be like Survivor or Traitors where everyone votes in a secret urn, or separately without the other contestants knowing.

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Sorry to see Geoff go--he was my favorite.  Way to go, people--vote off the one guy who could get you to the top.

Here are the ratings:

Episode 1:  3.03 million

Episode 2:  1.96 million

Episode 3:  1.82 million

There are seven episodes in all.  

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You'd have to have s%#t for brains to target and oust someone that could lead you to the Summit. You want to cut them them the night before the final ascent okay but NOW?

In other news, that should have been Swetka trudging up the hill-one of the two anchors should have been voted out last episode, not her. Now look at how they dragged everyone down.

Ferren was an embarrassment at the top of the ladder, while Rob surprised me with a family. My gaydar must be officially shot.

New Zealand must have lax safety rules the way they keep menacing hikers with the rotor blades.

The best ending would be when the Mountain Keeper lands the helicopter to reveal that she was really Swetka all along (like John Kramer in SAW was the body the whole time) and gives them a final choice: sacrifice Manu Bennet or keep the money.

Bye Manu

 

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12 hours ago, North of Eden said:

You want to cut them them the night before the final ascent okay but NOW?

Cutting Geoff would be of no benefit to them unless they get to steal his cash. Assuming this is the case, they have to retain someone else if they vote him off. Everyone carries equal amounts of cash so voting Geoff out will be no more beneficial than voting off any other remaining climber. 

The final ascent is likely to be difficult. It will be at the highest altitude (less air) and probably under icy conditions. Not a cake-walk. Better keep your strong climbers and ditch (and rob) the weakest. Don't forget, if any one person fails to summit, nobody wins a dime! So you want strong climbers who you won't have to help or who can help you in a pinch.

Once again, I can see absolutely no benefit in voting off anyone other than the weakest climber. This holds true right to the summit.

Production seemms to be trying it's hardest to convince everyone that this is the most cut-throat, backstabbing reality show ever. So far, they have not even begun to convince me. I really don't understand how they have (apparently) convinced the entire field of climbers!

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This is such a frustrating show. They make a point of pushing and pushing these people to move faster, and then halt all the pushing for some stupid reward/penalty decision that eats up hours of moving faster to get to the "bivy with food". Pati ? and Amy ? might have made it had they not had to have a huge time suck of seeing a helicopter drop a bag far away, wondering who will go get the bag, getting the bag, bringing the bag back, opening the bag, reading the paper in the bag, discussing the offer, voting on the offer, signalling the helicopter with the flare, waiting for the helicopter to land, getting the two women on the helicopter, then waiting for the helicopter to leave. Arghhhhh, it took forever to type that out and it was still a thousand times faster than the real life situation.

Then they have them climb some ridiculous ladder placed on a horrifying cliff, but you look around it and they have to go take a steep downhill trail again instead of having them circumnavigate the cliff to avoid it, all the time worrying about getting there faster. 

Why didn't they have multiple climbers on the ladder? Wouldn't a heavy human weight at the bottom have anchored the rope to the ground causing less swaying?

It appears to me that after the first day, they get to whatever camp they have to get to with ample daylight to eat, talk, connive, lie, and plot. It's not like nightfall is imminent.

Did not one person notice there was not one tear rolling down Dennis' face during his "tender moment?" Ugh, so tired of him. And Beckylee. And the Trader Joe's lady.

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21 hours ago, seltzer3 said:

One of the things that annoy me the most about this show is the open voting.  The host one does a terrible job, where he almost involuntarily nominates people.  (Also you can't have more than two nominees?)

But the other issue is that because its open voting, everyone can see who may or may not raise their hand.  So someone like Robert who is on the fence, can easily have their vote manipulated at that moment, because he notices who hasn't have his hands raised.  Not to mention people could wink/signal to others how to vote.  It needs to be like Survivor or Traitors where everyone votes in a secret urn, or separately without the other contestants knowing.

The open voting annoys me, too! And the way the host (who also annoys me) asks for the nominations. If they don't want to take the time to do a secret vote the way they do on Survivor, then have everyone write down a name and hold it up at the same time. That way, votes can't be changed based on who raises their hands. It also seems like it could make a difference who is nominated first--if there are only two options, then if someone doesn't vote for the first one, they'd have to vote for the second, right? Or can they abstain from voting?

I also think the challenges are a bit monotonous. Two shaky bridges to cross and a shaky ladder. So all physical and bad for those with a fear of heights/falling. Amazing Race (and I think Survivor, though I haven't watched recently) tends to have a good mix of physical and intellectual challenges--maybe have a puzzle for them to solve as a team, which would give someone else a chance to stand out (they'll regret having gotten rid of high-IQ Schweta then [eyeroll]).

Or at least some other category of physical challenge.

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On 10/21/2024 at 6:39 PM, seltzer3 said:

One of the things that annoy me the most about this show is the open voting.  The host one does a terrible job, where he almost involuntarily nominates people.  (Also you can't have more than two nominees?)

I wouldn't be surprised if the actual voting happens off camera.  Once thy know who's going, they bring the host in, production tells him who the two "nominees" are, and they film a reenactment of the voting session 

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I was hopeful this would entertain me until TAR returns but it's so ridiculous I just can't continue.

These people are so eager to be villains that they're voting off the strongest hikers. They're so excited about it that they're seemingly forgetting that no one wins any money unless they get to the summit in some specified time frame. So, voting off the fastest & leaving themselves with the slowest is counter intuitive.  Perfect example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

On top of that idiocy, there's the utter cringiness of the mountain keeper and d-list host's constant posing. I can't even feign interest. I'll check back here to see how it ends. 

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14 hours ago, Silver-hyren said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the actual voting happens off camera.  Once thy know who's going, they bring the host in, production tells him who the two "nominees" are, and they film a reenactment of the voting session 

If that's a reenactment that is such a dumb decision on the producers part.  Because an open voting takes away the suspense from a dramatic/entertainment point of view.  Like when you only have 3 people vote for Dennis, its like well obviously Geoff is getting voted off, the audience isn't dumb.  Does the producers really expect us to suspend our disbelief that 10 people will just abstain altogether? lol
 

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Also, I realize that Becky's idea of voting Geoff off is actually kind of dumb.  Because she accurately ruled that there is a group of strong guys (including Dennis) that are just bro down, and probably have a big alliance.  So if you were going to take a shot a strong guy, it should have been one of the guys in the dude alliance (and swung Geoff with you).  Geoff was essentially on an island by himself, so there was kind of no point in taking him out.

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1 hour ago, Quilt Fairy said:

May I ask who was voted off?  Because I made it a point to turn it off after Survivor (and stop recording it) so their viewer numbers continue to decline. 

They voted off Robert, the camp counselor/teacher guy who was in good shape and adept at helping the slower ones make the climb.  The logic behind it was stupid.  Essentially, all of them know that Dennis is a manipulative liar, but since Robert might have been lying about something although no one could prove it;  they voted him off the mountain.  They seem to think it easier to work with a guy who is totally untrustworthy and would throw anyone under the bus than with the guy who was helpful and not manipulative since maybe they were wrong and Robert was a manipulative liar too and they just hadn't caught him yet.  I kid you not.

When Jeannie was climbing up the cliff alone and the stupid helicopter came right up behind her and blew so much dust around that it got in her eyes and she couldn't see; I couldn't believe TPTB allowed that to happen.  They're lucky she wasn't blinded or concussed by stones hitting her in the eyes and head.

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1 hour ago, mertensia said:

My god! Why in Hell didn't they cut Pati? She's so slow!

They couldn't.  She was one of the voters (the follower group) and they could only vote for someone in the other group.

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On 10/22/2024 at 9:22 PM, Silver-hyren said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the actual voting happens off camera.  Once thy know who's going, they bring the host in, production tells him who the two "nominees" are, and they film a reenactment of the voting session 

I believe no way that is happening.  That show of hands in the open looks so stupid there is no way they would re-enact the vote like this since it is the most inane thing to put on the air. 

Nope, it is the collective "vote with the house" (BB) / "don't want to be on the wrong side of the vote" (Survivor) thing.  Just done in the open where people will flip in real time as they see hands going up all around them.

I am so sick of "The Mountain's Keeper" tag for the dumb modern helicopter.  I swear it is worst than Zingbot for a corny name.

And the host is absolutely terrible when he makes me long for Jeff Probst's "teaching moments" (gag) or even Julie Chen's "lock in the votes" repeated a half dozen times instead. 

And they keep posing him in what reality shows term the "hero shot" which in this case is him shot up from a lower angle so he looks like some sort of towering deity posed on some cliff or rock or whatever with the dumb chopper rising up menacingly behind him.  Is the stupid chopper suppose to be his vengeful pet parrot or something?  The whole set-up is beyond silly.

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I like parts of the show but can’t handle people talking about threats and what’s best for their game. Your only game is getting to the top. Anyone who can help you do that is best for your game. 

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I actually liked the twist this episode where Jeannie, the one person who didn't have a partner to help her on the climb, was not eliminated but instead was given the power to decide who could vote. However, I didn't like that she ended up picking the Followers to be safe, because they really needed to vote off one of the slower people. Still, I respected her managing that climb alone.

After this episode, I'm kinda rooting for Jeannie, Dusty and Theron to make it to the summit

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Coming in late…I’ve only seen the last 2 episodes so I get some stuff and am baffled by other things…like the cringe host and the open voting.

I like the girl who looks like Jo Jo siwa.  Her talking heads have her talking strategy that I don’t get but she has good energy for the show.

i also have an extreme fe of heights that I have helped curb by doing challenges like this in the last four years.  Much like freezing and starvation, the sheer weight of it doesn’t translate on Tv.  I can still feel my feet sweat or stomach drop when I watch parts of this show.  And it causes you to drain energy quickly.  I did the rock face climbing they just did and honestly it was the worst if you have a fear of heights.  It feels like dangling death.

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At least it was interesting when the cat ears woman froze on the climb and refused to move. But then a few more encouraging words and she went right up.

It’s not that I enjoy seeing people fail or be terrified, but they put so much emphasis on how hard these tasks are and how some contestants are so scared, and then everything always turns out just fine. It undercuts the drama when you start realizing no one will actually fail or quit. 

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I can’t believe the lady who Robert helped up the climb ended up voting him out. Pretty brutal.  Very rpoud of Jeannie for navigating that by herself.  Helped that she was taller…rooting for the Trader Joe’s lady lol.

theron? So he’s one of 18 kids and his sister and dad were both murdered? And he has a fear of heights?  Yeah he has my vote for the money.

what I’m not feeling is the sense of urgency.  Part of me doesn’t believe they can’t/won’t allow this show to end without getting to the summit.  So I don’t feel the gravity of the situation when they get snowed in and waste a day.  If there really was pressure we would be eliminating the slowest.  Pati accepts Roberts companionship as they hike but then votes him out too.  Maybe I missed too much of the beginning to see how they initially all pissed each other off lol.

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1 minute ago, Tango64 said:

At least it was interesting when the cat ears woman froze on the climb and refused to move. But then a few more encouraging words and she went right up.

It’s not that I enjoy seeing people fail or be terrified, but they put so much emphasis on how hard these tasks are and how some contestants are so scared, and then everything always turns out just fine. It undercuts the drama when you start realizing no one will actually fail or quit. 

Exactly. In my own adventures I’ve seen people freeze and get stuck for hours. Once your brain says no it’s difficult to reroute. And your body energy drains out of you.  These people have more physical limitations and a healthy fear of heights…but there are more levels of Foh that we aren’t seeing for good reason. They wou,d be off the show pretty quickly and there aren’t many easy ways to actually pull  someone off a rock face lol.

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At this point, the followers/weaker climbers seem like they will work together to get rid of all of the stronger/experienced climbers so that the weaker climbers will not be voted out.  Who will be left to physically pull others up the mountain?  If so, I really hope that nobody makes it to the Summit.  

Also, Patti?  Nobody else tried to help you get to the camp, so I hope that you continue to struggle and slow everyone else down (yes, as a viewer I am cruel this way).  

Robert did seem a bit insincere to me, but he was trying to help the others and I think that should count for something.  Sigh.  

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This quote from Beckylee sums up how stupid all these people are:

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We have 14 days to get this done, no matter what. But there are people that are weaker than me, and I think they're gonna struggle.

It's clear that Amy and Pati are out slowest and I feel like now we have to double book it to make up for this weather.

She knows they're the slowest yet they're targeting the stronger people for some unknown reason.

I really hope none of these morons make it to the summit. There was one recent reality show not too long ago where nobody finished:

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007: Road To A Million

So I hope the producers of The Summit take a hint from that show and don't force someone to win.

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2 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I can’t believe the lady who Robert helped up the climb ended up voting him out. Pretty brutal.  Very rpoud of Jeannie for navigating that by herself.  Helped that she was taller…rooting for the Trader Joe’s lady lol.

 

Wasn't that Amy that Robert helped? She was the only one who voted For Dennis to leave.

These people are dumber than dirt. Like Robert said vote with your head not your heart. Jeannie should have sided with the leaders and Patti should have been voted out. That would have been the smart thing to do.

 

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It was Jennye (?) who Robert helped up the mountain (and she voted for Dennis).  He did help Patti through the 'several miles' during which she was really far behind everyone else and he's the only one who helped her.  Amy was pulled up the mountain by Nick.

I hope all of the weaker climbers who are voting out the stronger climbers find themselves unable to complete future challenges as there won't be anybody left to help them...

Make this make sense...

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12 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Maybe I missed too much of the beginning to see how they initially all pissed each other off lol.

No.  These stupid idiots think they are playing Survivor and Big Brother on a mountain.  Totally insane and whacko thinking. 

The result is they decided to form "alliances" early on and stupid crap like that and Dennis has been stirring up the pot from day one, minute one turning everybody against each other.

10 hours ago, gibasi said:

Wasn't that Amy that Robert helped? She was the only one who voted For Dennis to leave.

Robert helped Pati the last few miles.  She was one low person to vote for him after that.

Robert got into trouble because AFTER he had spent hours trying to save Geoff he finally saw they didn't have the votes and told the others in the Geoff group it was best to blend in but Punkin saw that as a betrayal and got pissed at him even though Robert would only have been the third vote to save Geoff and several other had flipped too.

Then a couple of wanna-be young alpha males resented Robert for being helpful since THEY knew everything already and didn't need any helpful advice from him.  Ego much in these wanna-be alphas.

So they decided to keep Dennis who has used his pot stirring to divide them all from the beginning and will continue to do that instead of Robert who has tried to help everyone.

Amy seems like the only decent person left.  I hope everyone but Amy ends up half frozen in a raven never to see the summit. 

And I also hope other reality shows totally ignore Dennis as an invitee to be a villain on their shows which he is obviously auditioning for in his head.     (Beckylee thinks she is running the whole thing too and is doing a better job of it using Dennis as a shield so far but I can't stand her either so please don't cast her either, reality shows).

Also CBS. please cancel this trainwreck of a show asap. You've tried to sell it since last spring and it has been a total bust.  Give The Amazing Race's producers some money so they can produce 2 races a year instead.

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I guess I don’t get how you can have alliances on this show.  If the challenges are such that you are pairing up where some of the followers are physically or mentally unable to complete the challenge without the help of a leader, then why should the leaders help at all?  They should have been given the parameters of the challenge beforehand so that leaders could pair up with other strong leaders to manipulate the eventual tribes that were formed.

The premise of this show dictates they help the weak in order to advance the team to get to the summit.  Making a challenge that uses the premise….to then backfire against strong players….is crappy.  Bait and switch.

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13 minutes ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I guess I don’t get how you can have alliances on this show

They don't.  That is the whole point.  This show isn't Survivor or BB.  Only most of the cast are totally stupid idiots that think they are on one of these shows.

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The same website that streams TAR Australia (thanks again for the link, @TVbitchhas the Australian version of this show as well.  I guess it originated there, they have 2 seasons.  I read the episode descriptions and it's exactly the same show, down to the alliances, the back-biting, and the stupid helicopter as the "Mountain's Keeper".  Gag me. 

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21 hours ago, SVNBob said:

They couldn't.  She was one of the voters (the follower group) and they could only vote for someone in the other group.

I'm aware of that, but Jeannie should have sided with the leaders and booted Pati.

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On 10/23/2024 at 6:44 PM, seltzer3 said:

Also, I realize that Becky's idea of voting Geoff off is actually kind of dumb.  Because she accurately ruled that there is a group of strong guys (including Dennis) that are just bro down, and probably have a big alliance.  So if you were going to take a shot a strong guy, it should have been one of the guys in the dude alliance (and swung Geoff with you).  Geoff was essentially on an island by himself, so there was kind of no point in taking him out.

And Geoff actually assisted others. The bro alliance has had no interest in helping anyone make it up difficult terrain. As everyone has mentioned, if one member doesn't make it to the final summit no one collects so why was Beckylee Jojo Siwa so fixated on getting him out?  Even my 6th grader saw what a stupid plan that was and observed by the second episode they're erroneously playing Survivor.

It's also felt weird that multiple people have seemed very bothered by the friendship of Punkin and Geoff but not necessarily others like Pati and Amy or Dennis and Therron.

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On 10/21/2024 at 6:58 PM, Gemma Violet said:

Here are the ratings:

Episode 1:  3.03 million

Episode 2:  1.96 million

Episode 3:  1.82 million

 

Ratings for Episode 4:  2.01 million viewers

So it went up a tiny bit from the week before, but it's still down a million from the premier.  I don't think it's coming back next season.  It's got to be incredibly expensive to produce and they'd need bigger ratings than 2 million viewers to continue.

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