S18.E8: Once a Traitor, Always a Traitor

[ZettaK]

Emily analyses her harsh behaviour towards Jenn; Shannon gets a breathalyzer installed in her new car; Katie takes her daughter to legally change her name; the ladies reconvene for a special murder mystery-themed party.

First aired on 8/29/2024.

[Mr. Miner]

That outfit Tamra’s wearing in her talking heads, did she lose a bet or something?

 

[RoseAllDay]

“In the spirit of inclusivity…” LOL. Then Katie going on about Heather’s talons in her face.

Well, now we know what happened to Shannon’s business. Actually, those scenes of her and the breathlyzer and then talking with her business manager were great lessons about what a DUI can cost you. A HW PSA.

Teddi and Vicki. I had forgotten about Bravocon. 🔥

Where is soon-to-be Mrs. Jesus Jugs Janssen? (Credit to Reddit.) 

[Pondlass1]

I’ve noticed many of them have weird lumpy arms

[Emmeline]

I don’t understand, what does Johnny and Lexi want Shannon to clear Johnny’s name for?  Claiming that he never paid for anything?  That he wasn’t a nice guy or what!

[RoseAllDay]

Sorry, but this game is stupid. 

[WaltersHair]

If this is an attempt at acting, Teddi is the Yoko Ono of acting. Just murder her and let us out of our misery.

[RoseAllDay]

That was maybe the most boring episode I’ve sat through in a long time.

I have to agree, though, as someone who’s watched The Traitors. Heather would be perfect for it. Maybe that was the point of tonight — this was an audition for the next Bravolebrity Traitor.

Edited August 30 by RoseAllDay

[Pi237]

None of these women are having sex every day let alone twice a day. Just stop.  Then again, they don't have jobs or at least not exhausting jobs, so maybe once. But the twice three times do I hear four! Talk is so stupid. 

Wow, Emily is Not shy!   

Her apology to Jenn seemed scripted.  Where else in life can you be vile to someone, then cry that it's because of your childhood trauma and You become the victim getting sympathy?

I had no idea you might have to keep blowing/humming into the car breathalyzer every 5 or 10 minutes While driving! That's insane! Such a distraction while driving.  And so many technical things can cause a violation. Definitely, good for people to see. 

The Traitor game made no sense-you're dead, but you still play the game, except there are consequences... What? I knew it would be Heather before she was chosen, and you could tell by how she talks it was her. But it didn't really matter because the game was a mess and felt like something kids make up as they go along.

[bosawks]

I’m sure all this interpersonal family drama is of the utmost importance to Katie but I would really have to give it my all to care less than I currently do about any of it. 

[Jel]

I’m not saying I think Tamra is a shape shifting reptilian person, but given that she couldn’t seem to stop herself from vacuuming up that cricket that passed by her mouth, I wouldn’t be that surprised to find out she is. 

[ZettaK]

Shannon shouldn't be driving after the DUI, and almost running over John Janssen's daughter. She should let her license be suspended, and not choose the breathalyzer option (the breathalyzer option seems complicated to do, as well). The optics are important.

Edited August 30 by ZettaK

[Jel]

This episode felt like penance. 

[Pi237]

Vickie really wants to get that 3 Amigas money back on track & Shannon basically begging to do ‘the dance’ was just sad. 

[Jel]

13 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Vickie really wants to get that 3 Amigas money back on track & Shannon basically begging to do ‘the dance’ was just sad. 

So sad. And mean, too, what with Tamra with a belly full of crickets!

[Pattycake2]

Teddi’s face didn’t move from the bottom lip up.  Actually, everyone was looking old.  Heather, however, could at least wrinkle her forehead.

[bravofan27]

Interesting that Tamra made a big deal about Katie not inviting Alexis (who she didn't really know) to her golf outing, and making Alexis feel left out, when she didn't include her in her Traitor thing. More interesting that no one called her out on it-- Tamra just gets away with everything.

Heather does not like smart people. Or maybe brunettes. Or both. Maybe Katie too. They (Katie and Heather) definitely butt heads. They are too much alike-- used to be the smart person in the group. 

[ZettaK]

3 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

That outfit Tamra’s wearing in her talking heads, did she lose a bet or something?

 

Definitely. 

3 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I’ve noticed many of them have weird lumpy arms

It's because of spending time in the sun without sunscreen, so there is loss of skin elasticity (most are older anyway). The lighting in the confessionals is bad, and their self tanners/bronzers make things worse. 

3 hours ago, Emmeline said:

I don’t understand, what does Johnny and Lexi want Shannon to clear Johnny’s name for?  Claiming that he never paid for anything?  That he wasn’t a nice guy or what!

Something of the sort. That he was not as bad as she claimed.

Edited August 30 by ZettaK

[dmeets]

Shannon's the only reason Cancer Scammer is back on the show, and she repays her by completely ignoring her on the car ride.

If this was Tamra and Teddi's attempt at an audition for an orange for Teddi next year, they're going to be sorely disappointed. Although if she did become a HW, their friendship would inevitably implode when Tamra goes after her. I think Teddi's disappointed me more than any other HW across the franchise: on her first season on RHBH she'd seemed mostly down to earth, relatable, if a little socially awkward. Only to become plastic, bitchy, and smug. Yet still awkward.

I hope Heather's no longer mad at Gina since they both seem to agree that they're torn on whether to tell Shannon about the video threat, just as Gina had been torn on whether to tell Heather about the paparazzi friend.

Edited August 30 by dmeets

[ZettaK]

It was nice not to see anybody fighting. The women seemed to have some fun despite the rain. 

Emily spray tanned Shane's bald spot!

[dancingdreamer]

The best part of this evening,  was Tamra being  pushed into the water. She looked  like a drowned  TAM rat. I cannot  with Teddi,  Tamra really  wants her on HWs again. Tamra is dying to tell Shannon  about those videos.,

I guessed  Heather  was the Traitor,  if the shoe fits blah blah blah.

It was, as others have said, pretty boring. 

[RoseAllDay]

5 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

The best part of this evening,  was Tamra being  pushed into the water. She looked  like a drowned  TAM rat. I cannot  with Teddi,  Tamra really  wants her on HWs again. Tamra is dying to tell Shannon  about those videos.,

I guessed  Heather  was the Traitor,  if the shoe fits blah blah blah.

It was, as others have said, pretty boring. 

I had to roll back to see who pushed her in — yep, Teddi. Then Tamra does a Vicki and acts as if she nearly drowned. Please. I was guessing it was Gina by the way the voiceover sounded, but Heather mentioning the cane was pure Traitor misdirection.

[RoseAllDay]

8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Shannon shouldn't be driving after the DUI, and almost running over John Janssen's daughter. She should let her license be suspended, and not choose the breathalyzer option (the breathalyzer option seems complicated to do, as well). The optics are important.

If it’s a first offense, you usually have options. She did say since the girls were gone, she has no transportation. In my state you can get limited driving privileges if you can give a reason (like work). Also, I think the Breathalyzer is connected somehow to the ignition — if you blow above the limit, the car won’t start. Regardless, it showed how complicated your life gets with that hanging over your head.

Edited August 30 by RoseAllDay
Clarification

[snarts]

Such a weird disjointed episode.

The Traitors, a show I love, was done a huge injustice here. A) it was Tamrat's way of bragging about her appearance on it while B) forcing us to once again deal with her podcast partner, Teddi. Both were cringeworthy to watch. The only interesting thing was seeing Teddi's hidden jealousy (hostility?) come to the surface when she pushed Tamrat into the pool.

I actually appreciated Emily's apology to Jenn. It was clear that she had some soul searching and took responsibility for her actions. She didn't try to blame Jenn or go overboard trying to justify her behavior, she simply said sorry. 

Not sure why Katie seemingly has such a boner for Heather. I suspect they are more alike than they want to admit.

[bosawks]

8 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Heather does not like smart people.

Interesting, have we ever seen her meet one?

[StevieRocks]

Good grief, that was boring. These screeching rubes always amaze me (still 🙄) with how ignorant they are about anything not involving a strip mall chain restaurant or clomping around shopping whilst looking like menopausal idiots in out of style six-inch f-me pumps. I think most of them probably don't even understand that Scotland is a real place and none could find it on a map. What a gaggle of sad misfits. 

[Palimelon]

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I actually appreciated Emily's apology to Jenn. It was clear that she had some soul searching and took responsibility for her actions. She didn't try to blame Jenn or go overboard trying to justify her behavior, she simply said sorry. 

A bit more context for that. Also, am I the only one who thinks their looks here are better than the ones in their regular talking heads?

 

[Baltimore Betty]

Why did Teddi push Tamara in to the pool?

If I were Katie she should have taken her husband to Disneyland, posed exactly like the Dubrows and posted the photo just for shits and giggles.

I have not watched Traitors so this little bit of play made me want to watch that show.

9 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Vickie really wants to get that 3 Amigas money back on track & Shannon basically begging to do ‘the dance’ was just sad. 

Vicki, Shannon and Tamara got more mileage out of The Three Amigos than Steve Martin, Martin Short and Chevy Chase ever did.

[Baltimore Betty]

11 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

That outfit Tamra’s wearing in her talking heads, did she lose a bet or something?

 

The purple horror or the black and white horror?

Both are available on Ali Baba.

[RoseAllDay]

1 hour ago, StevieRocks said:

Good grief, that was boring. These screeching rubes always amaze me (still 🙄) with how ignorant they are about anything not involving a strip mall chain restaurant or clomping around shopping whilst looking like menopausal idiots in out of style six-inch f-me pumps. I think most of them probably don't even understand that Scotland is a real place and none could find it on a map. What a gaggle of sad misfits. 

I think it was NBC Universal’s half-assed way to promote The Traitors. It’s only on Peacock and Bravo has shown it (although not in awhile), but I’m sure a lot of people were clueless about what this was supposed to be about. Tamra hosting this because she was in The Traitors is a joke. She was “sick” early on and didn’t participate, didn’t do much when she finally did, and was sent home early. The whole premise was just stupid and a waste of time, and Teddi just added to the suckitude with her beret and cane.

My highlight was Tamra dragging herself out of the pool.

One of the worst HW episodes in my memory. A yawner.

8 hours ago, dmeets said:

Shannon's the only reason Cancer Scammer is back on the show, and she repays her by completely ignoring her on the car ride.

If this was Tamra and Teddi's attempt at an audition for an orange for Teddi next year, they're going to be sorely disappointed. Although if she did become a HW, their friendship would inevitably implode when Tamra goes after her. I think Teddi's disappointed me more than any other HW across the franchise: on her first season on RHBH she'd seemed mostly down to earth, relatable, if a little socially awkward. Only to become plastic, bitchy, and smug. Yet still awkward.

I hope Heather's no longer mad at Gina since they both seem to agree that they're torn on whether to tell Shannon about the video threat, just as Gina had been torn on whether to tell Heather about the paparazzi friend.

 But, but…BUSINESS! Insurance waits on no man (or woman). I would have grabbed that phone and thrown it out the window. I hate it when people do that.

[Pondlass1]

Americans pronounce the letter T like a D.  I thought the game was traders.  I’m from England.  The editing was weird anyway, I didn’t know what was going on.

Sometimes the HWs look younger without eye makeup and false eyelashes. Tamra’s poor arms constricted in those purple sleeves.

 

[Palimelon]

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Americans pronounce the letter T like a D.

Yes, you notice it when they pronounce water as wa-der. In the UK they clearly pronounce it as wa-ter.

[RoseAllDay]

28 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

Americans pronounce the letter T like a D.  I thought the game was traders.  I’m from England.  The editing was weird anyway, I didn’t know what was going on.

Sometimes the HWs look younger without eye makeup and false eyelashes. Tamra’s poor arms constricted in those purple sleeves.

 

There is a UK version of The Traitors. WAY better than the US knockoff.

[Pi237]

1 hour ago, Palimelon said:

A bit more context for that. Also, am I the only one who thinks their looks here are better than the ones in their regular talking heads?

 

They look Way better here! Whomever is doing the makeup & lighting for the show must hate them, it’s so harsh. 
 

I agree about Teddi, I liked her initially because she was awkward and not obsessed with looking like a walking glam doll. Wow, has she changed. Too much Tamra exposure. She sucks all the humanity out of you. 

[J80134]

I get what Emily was explaining to Jenn. Fending for yourself at a young age can instill a "whatever it takes" mentality around food, shelter, stability, etc. Get to work, sell stuff, quit spending friviously...suck it up buttercup.

Ted is the hostess with the leastest. While I enjoyed seeing Tamrat soaked, what a pathetic play for a moment.

Shannon orders a light pour of tequila...hoping to beat the breathalyzer? Nope, no problem here

[MaggieG]

I cheered when Tamra was pushed into the pool. I also loved her daughter shutting down the conversation about her dad. These kids have made it clear they don't want to discuss it on camera and Tamra just keeps bringing it up.

I actually liked seeing Shannon get instructions on the breathalyzer. It really shows you all the consequences of a DIU. 

I also liked learning more about Katie. Her daughter seems sweet. 

25 minutes ago, J80134 said:

Shannon orders a light pour of tequila...hoping to beat the breathalyzer? Nope, no problem here

Pretty sure they were all had drivers that night

Edited August 30 by MaggieG

[Cosmocrush]

Ignition breathalyers are required by law in my state for anyone arrested and convicted of a DUI.  While there are several workarounds for it to pass(get your passenger to blow),  I think they should be standard equipment on all vehicles.

Impaired driving can and should affect every aspect of your life and I'm glad they are showing a little bit of that with Shannon.  She was very very lucky she didn't hurt someone or herself. 

[bravofan27]

3 hours ago, bosawks said:

Interesting, have we ever seen her meet one?

Katie?

[Pi237]

21 minutes ago, J80134 said:

I get what Emily was explaining to Jenn. Fending for yourself at a young age can instill a "whatever it takes" mentality around food, shelter, stability, etc. Get to work, sell stuff, quit spending friviously...suck it up buttercup.

 

Every time Jenn says, “I never had to worry about money,” it’s like a punch to the gut. Can you imagine the mental freedom of not having a constant running tally in your head of bills due and what’s left in the account until the next payday!?  The blissful existence of that never being a concern, I cannot imagine. What do people like that use the extra space in their head for? lol sorry, it’s always jarring when I’m reminded some people actually get to live like that. 
 

Did her wallet recommend her for this show? Lol maybe he wanted to put the worry on her for a change.? 

[Natalie68]

Haven't read anything yet but here is MY OPINION!

Teddi is such a fucking try hard I just can't with her.  If they bring her to OC, I am done.  

I realize we all get older, I am right there with them.  BUT, Tamra's excessive facial work, heavy makeup and her long extensions are making her look much older than she is. It was especially noticeable when she was dragged out of the water.  

 

[bravofan27]

The OC housewives like theme parties more than any cast I've ever seen. They live to dress up in some type of costume and "party plan" their theme, attend the theme party, and oh and ah over how cool everything is and how everyone looks, and then get smashed and fight and go home early in tears. Probably because they realize they look ridiculous. There is always footage of them in PJs later if it's an overnight theme.

Regarding the Traitor party, it might have been a promo, but likely more to have a theme party. IMO

[sugarbaker design]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Why did Teddi push Tamara in to the pool?

It was totally contrived by these two thirsty podcasters.

[dosodog]

One of my friends had to get a breathalyzer after a DUI.  We went to a camp out party on a friend's property. Dogs were invited, but during dinner, had to go back into their cars. She had parked in a sunny area, not realizing this. 

So her car was too hot when it was time to eat. She couldn't move her car or turn on the air conditioning because she'd drank a beer. I was drinking water so she asked me if I would start the car for her. I said yes....

My first attempt landed up as a violation because I could not blow and hum at the same time--the vibration made my lips ticklish and I could not stop giggling the entire time I was trying to blow. I did manage to get it right the second time, but had to suffer through "blow job" jokes for the rest of the night...

I want to make it clear that the ONLY reason I helped her was because I knew she wasn't going anywhere and the dogs needed to be in the shade. 

I'm very relieved that Teddi was in last night's episode. I thought she was going to London with them and we would be stuck with her for more than 1 episode!

[Starlight925]

14 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I’ve noticed many of them have weird lumpy arms

That can be caused by lipo.  Sucks out some fat cells, not all.

A friend had upper arm lipo and had to wear compression sleeves 24/7 for around 8 weeks and have bi-weekly lymphatic drainage massages to keep the lumpiness from happening.

After all that, she still looks pretty much the same lol.  Even she said it was a gigantic waste of money and time.

Edited August 30 by Starlight925

[RoseAllDay]

1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

Haven't read anything yet but here is MY OPINION!

Teddi is such a fucking try hard I just can't with her.  If they bring her to OC, I am done.  

I realize we all get older, I am right there with them.  BUT, Tamra's excessive facial work, heavy makeup and her long extensions are making her look much older than she is. It was especially noticeable when she was dragged out of the water.  

 

Seems to me they want the Vicki-Teddi feud to continue, especially if Tamra and Teddi are buds. If either has to come back, I pick Vicki. Teddi is vile.

[SweetieDarling]

Teddi was the real Traitor in this episode. She killed off Tamra even though Heather pointed to Vicki, and then she pushed her in the fountain. Tamra looked like she was freezing. I wonder if they had a fight beforehand. The whole thing was so stupid

 

[TV Diva Queen]

Me and my DD24 watch Teddi push Tamra in the pool about 10 times, Tamra has the slightest little smirk on her face right before Teddy pushed(usually, not all the time) means they are afraid of water.  So, you mean to tell me that someone who may be afraid of water has the foresight to plug their nose.  Yeah...I don't think so.  

[la patineuse]

37 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Teddi was the real Traitor in this episode. She killed off Tamra even though Heather pointed to Vicki, and then she pushed her in the fountain. Tamra looked like she was freezing. I wonder if they had a fight beforehand. The whole thing was so stupid

 

I was thinking, "Can they kill the host?"

[RoseAllDay]

15 hours ago, Jel said:

This episode felt like penance. 

It really says something that the marathon from 2011 that came before this was 1,000% more entertaining. (It had the Tamra-Jeana wine throwing, with Tamra’s mom getting involved, and Tamra’s “cyst and decease” order, which, if she hasn’t, should trademark.

39 minutes ago, TV Diva Queen said:

Me and my DD24 watch Teddi push Tamra in the pool about 10 times, Tamra has the slightest little smirk on her face right before Teddy pushed(usually, not all the time) means they are afraid of water.  So, you mean to tell me that someone who may be afraid of water has the foresight to plug their nose.  Yeah...I don't think so.  

Wait, wut? This is the woman who got dunked in the pool by her pasture? I still find her crawling out of the pool last night funny.

[TV Diva Queen]

1 hour ago, TV Diva Queen said:

Me and my DD24 watch Teddi push Tamra in the pool about 10 times, Tamra has the slightest little smirk on her face right before Teddy pushed(usually, not all the time) means they are afraid of water.  So, you mean to tell me that someone who may be afraid of water has the foresight to plug their nose.  Yeah...I don't think so.  

Quoting myself because even I can't read this, italics and underline are what I omitted:

 

Me and my DD24 watch Teddi push Tamra in the pool about 10 times, Tamra has the slightest little smirk on her face right before Teddy pushed her, she held her nose.  (usually, not all the time) means they are afraid of water.  So, you mean to tell me that someone who may be afraid of water has the foresight to plug their nose.  Yeah...I don't think so.