Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media

[js9548]

Since this is the spoilers thread, can I ask is the show completely done after this return on 4/20/25? I have read many online posts but do not know if any of them are true? Does anyone know which posts are true?

[RoxiP]

There is something ironic about this show returning on Easter Sunday (which I do celebrate by the way).

[Yeah No]

On 3/23/2025 at 6:22 AM, js9548 said:

Since this is the spoilers thread, can I ask is the show completely done after this return on 4/20/25? I have read many online posts but do not know if any of them are true? Does anyone know which posts are true?

I don't know but even I'm wondering about that and I'm usually saying that this show will go on forever until there's not one more drop to squeeze from this family. This has been an especially long season and they seem to be catching up to the present.

[ginger90]

On 3/23/2025 at 6:22 AM, js9548 said:

Since this is the spoilers thread, can I ask is the show completely done after this return on 4/20/25? I have read many online posts but do not know if any of them are true? Does anyone know which posts are true?

In October, 2024 Christine, Janelle, David, Gwen and Beatriz went on a stargazing trip. I don’t know if Truely was there also. Christine posted that they were filming in Sedona. If they are going to become more current it could be on this season.  This would be more “current” than they have ever been. So, my guess is there will be a season 20. Not factual just a guess.

[Yeah No]

46 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

In October, 2024 Christine, Janelle, David, Gwen and Beatriz went on a stargazing trip. I don’t know if Truely was there also. Christine posted that they were filming in Sedona. If they are going to become more current it could be on this season.  This would be more “current” than they have ever been. So, my guess is there will be a season 20. Not factual just a guess.

This is OT but I love your new avatar. That looks like St. Pat's in NYC. My husband the church and church organ expert told me.

[ginger90]

37 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

This is OT but I love your new avatar. That looks like St. Pat's in NYC. My husband the church and church organ expert told me.

Indeed it is. I wish it came out better.

[laurakaye]

Regarding Garrison's passing...I would've been upset, as someone who has watched this show from Day One, if they had glossed over their family tragedy.  We aren't owed anything from the Browns but at the same time, they're the ones who decided to air their family's business for the last decade.  But I am also pre-emptively nervous wondering if we will be treated to watching Kody and Robyn talk about what happened.  Kody is his father and no matter what I think of him as a person, he was also dealt an unfathomable blow.  But Kody and Robyn are so completely performative and that is the last thing I want to see on this show - Kody and Robyn on the couch trying to re-write history in any way, shape or form.  We all heard Kody say what he said about Garrison and Gabe.  Part of me just wants a small but heart-felt tribute to Garrison and leave it at that.  What I definitely do not want are over-emotional tributes from the people who knew him the least.  

In other words - Robyn, please sit this one out.  And Kody - be careful.

[KBrownie]

2 hours ago, laurakaye said:

In other words - Robyn, please sit this one out.  

She wouldn’t dare.

Robyn taking a backseat would likely be the best and most appropriate thing to do, but she probably won’t allow it. She’ll pretend and act as if she was there from day one and deserves equal consideration in all matters.  And that her kids, who probably won’t be that impacted, are grieving the loss just as much as the others.

What’s ironic is that I can totally see Christine and Meri, who actually were there with Garrison from the beginning, respectfully stepping back and letting the focus be on Janelle, Kody, and the most affected of the kids. Not Robyn. And Kody probably, I hope this isn’t true for all of their sakes, will go along with it. 

[RoxiP]

Christine won't be stepping back and she considers Janelle's kids almost as much hers as Janelle's.  I do think, however, that she will be there primarily to support Janelle and Janelle's children.

But I totally get and agree with what you are saying.

[xls]

21 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Part of me just wants a small but heart-felt tribute to Garrison and leave it at that

Same.  they don't owe us anything, true, but don't act like he never existed. 💕

[Orcinus orca]

21 minutes ago, xls said:

Same.  they don't owe us anything, true, but don't act like he never existed. 💕

They don't need to act like he never existed.  But how about a message at the beginning of the season saying that Garrison's death has deeply affected the family and will not be discussed on the air to allow the family privacy and time to grieve?  Then add a message about how to reach a suicide hotline.

You cannot tell me that filming this is not capitalizing on the tragedy.  People will tune in just to see how it is handled, a big boon to their advertisers.  Money is the bottom line, always has been. Disgusting.

[ginger90]

In the opening of season 19 there was a message on screen.

This season of Sister Wives began filming in late 2022. On March 5, 2024, Kody and Janelle’s son Garrison passed away. He was greatly loved and will be deeply missed.

Edited March 25 by ginger90

[laurakaye]

10 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

You can bet good money on Sobbyn acting like she birthed Garrison herself. She's nothing if not predictable and tone deaf AF.

This is exactly what we'd better not see from her.  Despite all of her proclamations to the contrary, she was NOT there from Day One.

[Orcinus orca]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

In the opening of season 19 there was a message on screen.

This season of Sister Wives began filming in late 2022. On March 5, 2024, Kody and Janelle’s son Garrison passed away. He was greatly loved and will be deeply missed.

And it should have been left at that. Anything further dishonors Garrison and ignores his pain.  It becomes "all about them".

[eskimo]

I'll reserve my opinion on how they handle Garrison's passing until I see how it's actually handled.  But I will say that I hope it was up to Janelle, and Janelle ONLY.  She and his siblings knew him best and can decide for themselves what honors and dishonors Garrison better than strangers. This also presumes that TLC will defer to Janelle's beliefs, which...who knows. 

Also, we can say what we want about Janelle and her choices on how to make money, because...MLM's, but I absolutely believe that there is no way in hell she is angling to make money off this tragedy.  The pay is probably the same for the season regardless. I just do not see her as that type of person, whatsoever.  Even if it's not what other people would choose for themselves. I am giving Janelle the biggest benefit of the doubt on this one.  

Edited March 25 by eskimo

[laurakaye]

Did anyone see Paedon's - um, "problematic" - birthday wish for the podcaster Amanda from "We Love to Hate Everything?"

Amanda's co-host bought her a $10 Cameo from Paedon for her birthday, as a joke.  I saw the clip on Youtube.  The person who bought the Cameo asked Paedon to just tell some jokes.  Paedon rambles on and on, in a very fast tempo, about how the jokes he wanted to tell would get him in trouble for being racist and misogynistic.  If this is Paedon, I can understand why some of his siblings aren't interested in a relationship with him.

And listening to him babble on and on, he sounded just like Kody.

 

[Auntie Freeze]

I saw it and sighed. Apple something something tree.

[mythoughtis]

Reddit has a post saying that Coyote Pass ownership has changed -no sale-  but Janelle and Meri each own 25% now.  Comments go into detail about when it changed.  In addition, any of them can now sell their share without consent of the others. 

Edited April 3 by mythoughtis

[lookeyloo]

9 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

Reddit has a post saying that Coyote Pass ownership has changed -no sale-  but Janelle and Meri each own 25% now.  Comments go into detail about when it changed.  In addition, any of them can now sell their share without consent of the others. 

That is interesting. I wonder what buyer would want a portion of undeveloped land when the rest of it doesn't seem that it will ever be developed

[Absolom]

Did have to resubdivide or use the original plots?

[mythoughtis]

17 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Did have to resubdivide or use the original plots?

It appeared to me that they used the original lots and swapped names/ plus the right to sell their interest.   So all 4 each own the two bigger lots. Kody and Robyn own one smaller. Meri and Janelle  own the other equal sizes smaller lot.  Keep in mind, I’m going off the Reddit posts. I’m not searching property filings. 

[Absolom]

That actually sounds fair although complicated to actually sell except for the one smaller lot.  It would have probably benefited Meri and Janelle more if they had gotten one of the larger lots in just their names.

[BAForever]

Was waiting for one of our SW experts @ginger90and @AZChristian to give us the scoop, but wanted to say if the deal means K and R get less,  I'm happy. Plus this land has been sitting there for years. Assuming that is being taxed yearly. How dumb as these people? 

[AZChristian]

3 hours ago, BAForever said:

Was waiting for one of our SW experts @ginger90and @AZChristian to give us the scoop, but wanted to say if the deal means K and R get less,  I'm happy. Plus this land has been sitting there for years. Assuming that is being taxed yearly. How dumb as these people? 

I just checked the Coconino County records.  As of right now, the titles have not been changed from what I last reported.  It's going to take a judge or jury to override the existing deeds.  Kody hinting that he was going to have a realtor change things wouldn't be legal.  Property titles can't be changed on a whim.  If he does anything shady, Meri and Janelle should take his ass to court.

As to your last question . . . is that rhetorical?  ;-)

Edited April 3 by AZChristian

[mythoughtis]

@ginger90

Thank you for checking.  Reddit posters must be looking at false information then. I apologize for spreading it. 

[ginger90]

It’s not false information it just doesn’t show up in a typical place yet.

 

The names on the lots have been shuffled around. The two larger lots have all four names. One smaller lot has Robyn and Kody. The other smaller lot has Janelle and Meri.

[65mickey]

I saw that on you tube. The person reporting seemed reliable. She said new deeds were issued 3/26. I have to wonder who the heck would buy these lots, undeveloped land with no water, sewage or power? But 

it can take awhile before the Tax assessor's records are updated after new deeds are filed. I don't know why they would need a judge or jury to change the deeds. If all parties in agreement they would just have to have an attorney have everyone with ownership interest sign off on quit claim deeds.  That's how it happens where I live when families are dividing up property. 

[spacefly]

17 hours ago, ginger90 said:

The names on the lots have been shuffled around. The two larger lots have all four names. One smaller lot has Robyn and Kody. The other smaller lot has Janelle and Meri.

So I update Assessor parcel data as part of my job and I looked at the Coconino Parcel viewer yesterday and saw the shuffle. Sometimes things take a while to catch up, sometimes areas only update once a week/month. The data has to be fed from the local municipality/recorder to the county and then to the GIS service provider. Sometimes you have to go into the public record and find the new recording or a deed. It can be a mess sometimes and also unreliable.

[LilyD]

On 4/4/2025 at 12:18 AM, ginger90 said:

The names on the lots have been shuffled around. The two larger lots have all four names. One smaller lot has Robyn and Kody. The other smaller lot has Janelle and Meri

I’m struggling to see the point in doing this? I thought they all wanted to move on, and now the four of them together own two lots? What do Janelle and Meri have to gain from two small, likely unsellable lots?

I hoped Kody would buy them out. The fact that he didn’t, makes me suspect he has no money available to do so….

[Denize]

1 hour ago, LilyD said:

I’m struggling to see the point in doing this? I thought they all wanted to move on, and now the four of them together own two lots? What do Janelle and Meri have to gain from two small, likely unsellable lots?

I hoped Kody would buy them out. The fact that he didn’t, makes me suspect he has no money available to do so….

They should have put R&K's names on one big and one small lot and M&J's names on the other big and small lots. That way M&J could move ahead with a sale and split the proceeds 50/50 and get on with their lives.  K&R could keep their land forever for all I care.

[surfgirl]

On 4/4/2025 at 7:04 PM, Denize said:

They should have put R&K's names on one big and one small lot and M&J's names on the other big and small lots. That way M&J could move ahead with a sale and split the proceeds 50/50 and get on with their lives.  K&R could keep their land forever for all I care.

Sure but that would be fair and make it easier for J&M to sell and the bitter bitches known as R&K would never do the right thing. Methinks they doth protest too much about not trying to rip off J&M.

Edited April 7 by surfgirl

[65mickey]

8 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Sure but thst would be fair and make it easier fir J&M to sell and the bitter birches known as R&K would never do the right thing. Methinks they doth protest too much about not trying to rip off J&M.

I agree. But he wants control. At lease he and Robyn can't take out a loan against the lots that have Meri and Janelle's names without their them signing off on the loan. I still think selling this property is going to be difficult. 

[Adiba]

Allegedly before the change Meri and Janelle could not sell or will their shares in CP without Kody’s approval— now they can. It can be part of their respective estates.

[mythoughtis]

My thoughts are that the layout is structured so that Janelle and Meri can 2)  sell the small lot they jointly own outright - it’s at the end.  They can sell their shares of the two big lots back to Kody and Robin.  That allows Kody and Robyn to have two big and one small lot adjacent to each other.  I suppose  Janelle and Meri could sell their parts of the two big lots to someone else ..:. But who wants to own property with Kody and Robyn?   Maybe siblings of Kody? Definitely not his OG kids

[LilyD]

I still feel that Meri and Janelle drew the short ends of the sticks here. A full owner ship of only a small, likely unsellable lot doesn't sound like a fair compensation of what they probably contributed toward Kody and Robyn's mansion and the CP land.

True, they also co-own the 2 larger lots so on paper it may sound fair. However, with Kody and Robyn as co-owners any money is firmly tied up so long as they refuse to sell. And imagine the unlikely option that Kody and Robyn choose to build there... They could build and live on that land forever and Meri and Janelle wouldn't be able to do a thing about it. 

Sounds like a pretty sh***y deal to me!

[Elizzikra]

I believe the show returns on 04/20. Anyone else find humor in this also being Easter Sunday?

Quote

 And imagine the unlikely option that Kody and Robyn choose to build there... They could build and live on that land forever and Meri and Janelle wouldn't be able to do a thing about it. 

This is unclear to me. If one wants to build on a piece of land and only has 1/3 ownership, will any lender issue a building loan? I know that all three of them would have to agree to sell the land if they wanted to do so, but don't all three of them have to agree to build on it to get a loan for any sort of building? In fact, given that all three (counting K and R as a single entity) of them co-own the land, I'd think it's pretty much worthless for anything but sale, since I don't think they could agree on anything else.

Edited April 7 by Elizzikra

[laurakaye]

Here's what Meri does:

She approaches Kody and Robyn while the two of them are walking out of the Paintings 'R Us store, giggling over their latest acquisition - a 60 x 80 piece depicting a horse running across the surface of Mars while being chased by a fire-breathing purple turtle.  Meri quietly says, "Kody - here's the dill.  In my pocket, I have a pair of scissors.  Either you buy me and Janelle out of our plots of worthless plague land by the end of the day, or Janelle will hold you down and I will cut off all of your hair.  Janelle has already set up camp inside one of the unused rooms of your mansion - you'll never find her.  The question is - what do you value more?  Holding those stupid parcels of land over our heads, or your precious ringlets?  Think it over, even though we all know the answer.  You have 6 hours."  Then she snaps the scissors in front of his face and slowly turns to leave.  Robyn cries, Kody wets himself, and pays them their money with interest so they'll never come back.

/scene 

Edited April 7 by laurakaye

[surfgirl]

^You're hired!^

[LilyD]

On 4/7/2025 at 7:22 PM, Elizzikra said:

This is unclear to me. If one wants to build on a piece of land and only has 1/3 ownership, will any lender issue a building loan?

Good point! But...this is Kody Brown. He is a master in getting loans when most of us cannot. So, I'm sure he'll be able to find a way around this if he wanted to.

[Salacious Kitty]

Saw on Reddit (with receipts, sorry I can't c/p from there) that Janelle and Meri sold their parcel at Coyote Pass. They split $305k. They still are on the larger parcel with K/R.

Edited April 15 by Salacious Kitty

[surfgirl]

10 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Saw on Reddit (with receipts, sorry I can't c/p from there) that Janelle and Meri sold their parcel at Coyote Pass. They split $305k. They still are on the larger parcel with K/R.

I wonder of that's a decent price, I hope so.

[Salacious Kitty]

4 hours ago, surfgirl said:

I wonder of that's a decent price, I hope so.

Seems to be the going rate. The parcel was 2.4 acres. 

Someone else said that the entire 14 acres sold yesterday. No proof yet. 

Edit The Sun claims the parcels sold for 1.5M. 

Edited April 15 by Salacious Kitty

[ginger90]

13 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They still are on the larger parcel with K/R.

When they did the deeds over, Janelle, Kody, Meri and Robyn then had their names on both of the two larger lots. Kody and Robyn were on one of the two smaller lots, and Janelle and Meri were on the other smaller lot.

[Salacious Kitty]

7 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

When they did the deeds over, Janelle, Kody, Meri and Robyn then had their names on both of the two larger lots. Kody and Robyn were on one of the two smaller lots, and Janelle and Meri were on the other smaller lot.

Oops, meant for that to be plural. Yes, J/M are on both of the larger lots. 🙂

[Denize]

15 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Saw on Reddit (with receipts, sorry I can't c/p from there) that Janelle and Meri sold their parcel at Coyote Pass. They split $305k. They still are on the larger parcel with K/R.

A neighbouring lot of the same size is for sale for $425K, but that lot is serviced with utilities.  And Kody thinks they saved a lot by buying raw land ... yes, but they miss out on higher profits when it is sold! 

[ginger90]

The deed was recorded yesterday for the 4 lots. A couple bought all 4. So finally “the property” is settled. That’s a storyline I’d like to see edited out for the rest of the season!

[surfgirl]

8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

The deed was recorded yesterday for the 4 lots. A couple bought all 4. So finally “the property” is settled. That’s a storyline I’d like to see edited out for the rest of the season!

I'd like to know how much each person got. TBH, I highly doubt Meri and Janelle got their fair due.

[ginger90]

5 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

I'd like to know how much each person got. TBH, I highly doubt Meri and Janelle got their fair due.

They would have each gotten 25% of the two bigger lots, and 50% each for the one smaller lot. That’s why the names were redistributed prior to the sale. 

[smarty]

For anyone that is interested: Meri is going to be on the Tamron Hall show tomorrow (CBS).  In my area it's at 2pm.

49 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

The deed was recorded yesterday for the 4 lots. A couple bought all 4. So finally “the property” is settled. That’s a storyline I’d like to see edited out for the rest of the season!

How much did they get for all 4 lots?

Edited April 16 by smarty

[Salacious Kitty]

24 minutes ago, smarty said:

For anyone that is interested: Meri is going to be on the Tamron Hall show tomorrow (CBS).  In my area it's at 2pm.

How much did they get for all 4 lots?

I read 1.5M.